Hello
I would like to try some custom ROMs, but since my Touch Pro already had some problems with the stylus sensor, I don't want to lose the warranty. I dumped the ROM and splash screen, but I have some older SPL version -1.69.0000. Is there a way to extract SPL? I can't find it anywhere
Thanks in advance.
m2c said:
Hello
I would like to try some custom ROMs, but since my Touch Pro already had some problems with the stylus sensor, I don't want to lose the warranty. I dumped the ROM and splash screen, but I have some older SPL version -1.69.0000. Is there a way to extract SPL? I can't find it anywhere
Thanks in advance.
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You will have to get the shipped ROM by your carrier and dump the SPL from there. You can't dump your SPL from the Image on your device.
Thanks
Dave
If you will find some solution, please post it here
I have the same problem. Thanks
It would be helpfull if you mentioned your carrier and whether its a TP or fuze. Its easy to get the spl if you know which rom came on the device.
its mda vario iv (branded htc by t-mobile).
i've found something:
Code:
SPL dump for raphael:
pmemdump 0x88000000 0x80000 spl.bin
Will be this useful? Or is there any other way?
dewil9 said:
its mda vario iv (branded htc by t-mobile).
i've found something:
Code:
SPL dump for raphael:
pmemdump 0x88000000 0x80000 spl.bin
Will be this useful? Or is there any other way?
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jcespi2005 said:
The reconstruction process can be done only for the OS part...
You can't extract the radio or SPL from the device, you need a shipped ROM to get this two parts.
Cheers.
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You can only get spl if there is a shipped version of that rom.
Open about in settings and tell me what it says. Then hold down volume and reset. It will bring up the tricolor screen. Post what both of them say.
aruppenthal said:
There should be a way if there is a shipped version of that rom.
Open about in settings and tell me what it says. Then hold down volume and reset. It will bring up the tricolor screen. Post what both of them say. I need to be sure to get the right one.
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@dewil9
Actually, what SPL are you after?
Ta
Dave
Open about in settings and tell me what it says. Then hold down volume and reset. It will bring up the tricolor screen. Post what both of them say.
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about:
CE OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
tricolor screen:
RAPH300
SPL-1.69.0000
MicroP-Herm (LED) v 13
MicroP-Herm (KEY) v5
PSOC-Herm STAGE_CVT v0x35
dewil9 said:
about:
CE OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
tricolor screen:
RAPH300
SPL-1.69.0000
MicroP-Herm (LED) v 13
MicroP-Herm (KEY) v5
PSOC-Herm STAGE_CVT v0x35
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There is a German T-Mobile ROM on the Wiki with 1.69 as the version. Download it and use NBHExtract to Dump the SPL from it.
Ta
Dave
I am from Slovakia, and language of whole OS is english.
Is it ok?
dewil9 said:
I am from Slovakia, and language of whole OS is english.
Is it ok?
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No, it doesn't matter Raphael SPL 1.69 is the same from any country.
Ta
Dave
Thank you very much
DaveShaw said:
There is a German T-Mobile ROM on the Wiki with 1.69 as the version. Download it and use NBHExtract to Dump the SPL from it.
Ta
Dave
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It appears the one in the wiki is a reconstruction and does not contain spl
You should be able to use HaRET to dump SPL from RAM at runtime. SPL is at physical address 0.
With RAM protection implemented in Diamond/Raphael/Kovsky/Blackstone it is quite unlikely that SPL in RAM will be different from SPL in NAND, however still possible. Since there's no SPL 1.69 in circulation, you can't verify how accurate the RAM dump is. Someone could dump a known SPL version this way and then confirm the files are identical when extracted from .nbh and dumped from RAM.
One more question... probably stupid one...
I downloaded this german rom, but I don't know howto extract spl from it.
I know with nbhextract, but how exactly?
Can somebody help me? Thank you
dewil9 said:
One more question... probably stupid one...
I downloaded this german rom, but I don't know howto extract spl from it.
I know with nbhextract, but how exactly?
Can somebody help me? Thank you
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Is the one you extracted an official rom or the rebuild from the wiki?
The one in the wiki does not have the spl in it.
Ah I thought tha roms on wiki are shipped one...
So still no 1.69 spl??
Stock SPL 1.69.0000
For all guys looking for stock SPL 1.69.0000, here is one i have already extracted from czech T-Mobile ROM. So we have done one thing Another things to do is to make one single NBH file with stock SPL and one NBH file with OS, Splashes and stock Radio without SPL. That is what i have not understand yet very well, but i got kitchen and i want to flash new ROM early
Thanks for the SPL - same as on my UK T-Mobile Vario IV.
Now i can restore to factory settings - time to play!
Stock SPL not changing version numbers
I've tried searching the whole net already but I couldn't find it.
Something screwed in my screen and I want to turn it in for warrenty.
Now I restored my ROM/Radio already but when I try to restore Stock SPL (doing it when in USB mode) and it goes to 100% in a few secs it still says 1.90 Olinex.
Anyone got a solution for that?
Kind regards,
Kenny
Related
Guys, how do I dump the SPL, IPL, Bootloader, radio ROM and Radio bootloader version?
I will use the unlocker to unlock the TYTN but then I want to roll back to the default version numbers that I have. I dont want it to stay with the HardSPL or with the newer Radio.
Thanks
Have you ever try to use the search function first? ...or just read the Wiki?...here are the how to...but next time read the wiki first!
Regards,
Primoz
Guys, it starting to get boring.
On every question asked, you send to RTFM.
Maybe, just MAYBE, I already READ everything and I STILL (!!!) have a question? Maybe I'm not as stupid as you think? Maybe the guides are NOT (?!?!!) 100% perfect?
To the subject; I did dumo the ROM. However, as I understand (FROM the guide), it DID NOT dump the SPL and the radio (or the bootloader and the Radio bootloader).
Please confirm that it DID extract everything and that if I'll burn it back to the device it will be 100% the same as it now.
Also, if I first use the unlocker, and then burn back the original radio, will it get locked again?
knfevg said:
Guys, how do I dump the SPL, IPL, Bootloader, radio ROM and Radio bootloader version?
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You don't need to dump that, every version is available as a shipped upgrade so you can extract it from there and flash it later if you need it for warranty reasons.
knfevg said:
I will use the unlocker to unlock the TYTN but then I want to roll back to the default version numbers that I have. I dont want it to stay with the HardSPL or with the newer Radio.
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Most probably your rom is available as a shipped NBH, just flashing it will lead your device to the original rom. The only thing you can't do is go from htc_boot 0108 to htc_boot 0106, so make sure you don't upgrade to a very new radio if you want to be able to go back to your original radio if it has a 0106 radio bootloader.
knfevg said:
To the subject; I did dumo the ROM. However, as I understand (FROM the guide), it DID NOT dump the SPL and the radio (or the bootloader and the Radio bootloader).
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Following the guide, you've only dumped the OS part of the rom.
knfevg said:
Please confirm that it DID extract everything and that if I'll burn it back to the device it will be 100% the same as it now.
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Tell us how it is now.
knfevg said:
Also, if I first use the unlocker, and then burn back the original radio, will it get locked again?
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no.
POF, you are THE GOD!!! Thanks, finally someone HELPS!!
Ok, here are the clarifications:
1. How do I check the htc_boot version? I have the 106 SPL so I can’t launch the Radio loader from there....
2. If I dumped only the OS part I guess I should dump the rest too. How do I do that and how do I make the "burnable" afterwards?
3. Here is the current "setup":
The device is Orange branded. It’s exactly as described under "Hermes versions" in Wiki for Orange-Israel:
Israel Versions
HERM200 Orange IL HTC TyTN Israel QWERTY Locked OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0) 1.18.255.3 07/22/06 WWE 1.18.255.112 1.03.03.10 32.34.7010.01H
The SPL is 1.06 and IPL is 1.01. I have no idea how to check the HTC_BOOT version.
There is an Orange boot logo.
Guess that is. Thanks once again
knfevg said:
1. How do I check the htc_boot version? I have the 106 SPL so I can’t launch the Radio loader from there....
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You should use a SPL based on 1.01 or 1.04 to use 'rtask' and access the radio, you can either flash it or use SSPL to load the NB without flashing. Anyway you don't need to do that, radio 1.03.03.10 has htc_boot 0106.
knfevg said:
2. If I dumped only the OS part I guess I should dump the rest too. How do I do that and how do I make the "burnable" afterwards?
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You don't need to dump the rest. See later.
knfevg said:
3. Here is the current "setup":
HERM200 Orange IL HTC TyTN Israel QWERTY Locked OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0) 1.18.255.3 07/22/06 WWE 1.18.255.112 1.03.03.10 32.34.7010.01H
The SPL is 1.06 and IPL is 1.01.
There is an Orange boot logo.
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A full shipped NBH consists on 7 parts: IPL, SPL, MainSplash, SubSplash, Radio, ExtROM and OS.
See the hermes shipped upgrades wiki page. Use nbhextract to separate the NBH into rom parts.
Download any orange ROM to get your MainSplash.nb & SubSplash.nb (boot logo as you say).
Download any rom with IPL-1.01 & SPL-1.06 to get IPL.nb & SPL.nb
Download any rom with radio 1.03.03.10 to get GSM.nb
Unhide your ExtROM to get the files in Extended ROM, then create ExtROM.nb using ExtROM image editor.
Reconstruct the OS.nb using the instructions on wiki (see trinity wiki also)
Finally, create a NBH using nbhgen, and package it with CustomRUU to be able to flash it pushing SSPL.
Make sure you don't upgrade to any radio with htc_boot 0108, otherwise you'll never be able to flash your original radio again.
Hope it's clear
Thanks POF. PERFECT!!!!
Maybe a Wiki should be made for this as I notice alot of people asking on how to go back to the original state of their device?
tnx in advance
sir POF i did want to get the original state of my device for warranty purpose..
I tried everything i can.. i read a lot.. still confusing me.. I did encountered No GSM, the phone dont boot..
I run WM6 Cooked rom before..
heres my device now...
Dopod 838 pro Asia
ORIGINAL
ROM 1.23.707.4
07/21/06 WM5
RADIO 1.06.00.10
PROTOCOL 32.37.7010.01H
OS BUILD 14955.2.3.0
AKU 2.3
SPL 1.04
HTC BOOT 106
IPL ?
NOW RUNNING
WM5
ROM 1.23.707.4
07/21/06
RADIO 1.40.30.00
32.73.7020.16H
OS BUILD 14955.2.3.0
SPL OLIPRO 2.10
IPL 1.04
AKU ?
HTC BOOT ? dnt know if it changed
Ive read ur message.. I just want a simple question...
BASED on the data above is it possible to bring back the device on its
original state specially the radio and SPL ?
TNX in advance..
Im willing to research again if yes..
I have SPL - 2.10 Olipro. I am trying the various Boot Roms starting from 1.41 backwards as someone recommended in some other thread.
But I need to run SSPL before or I get an Error why does that happen why can't the SSPL of the ROM upgrade check and do the needful.
Secondly I want to revert back to SPL-1.04 or 1.09 is it possible. If yes please tell me how. If it is detailed in some other thread please tell me the thread details and oblige.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
tonetagabaler said:
BASED on the data above is it possible to bring back the device on its original state specially the radio and SPL ?
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Radio no (you cant go back from htc_boot 0108 to 0106), SPL and rest of rom parts yes, it's possible to return to original state.
hsanghavi said:
I want to revert back to SPL-1.04 or 1.09 is it possible. If yes please tell me how. If it is detailed in some other thread please tell me the thread details and oblige.
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Read the HardSPL sticky thread.
I tired but could not locate the Hard SPL thread can you please tell me where to find it.
THANKS.
Hi,
I have flash my hermes to wm6.0 using the hard spl menthod.
But now i try to use the dopod 838 pro original wm5.0 rom to downgrade but it won't allow.
so how do i downgrade my 838 pro from wm6.0 with hard spl to wm5 ?
for your info i flash the 838 pro according to Mr. MrVanx's LVSW Upgrade Guide.
thanks for the help.
regards.
Extract the NBH and use CustomRUU to flash it.
If you want a brick-safe downgrade, take only OS, ExtROM & Splashes from your dopod838 rom and create a NBH only with this, then flash it with CustomRUU.
FYI
Just as an FYI this didn't work for me as I had upgraded my bootloader too.
If you are in the same boat do a search for 1.10 OLI boot loader, install that (very quick), then grab your original ROM (from the wiki page)
Good luck,
where to download wm5 custom ruu Os only?
Zaps said:
where to download wm5 custom ruu Os only?
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read here WM5 Downgrade guide
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
abenk said:
read here WM5 Downgrade guide
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
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link to RUUWrapper.exe (CustomRUU by olipro) not working, any other link to download?
This touches on a question that I have seen bounced around a good bit but never fully answered. If we upgrade our device to HardSPL and then to WM6, is it possible to take our device back to stock conditions including the stock SPL as well as the Stock WM5? Ie, is it possible to get the device back to a state where we can simply download the .exe file from HTC's website and run it in order to re-flash the phone?
Zaps said:
link to RUUWrapper.exe (CustomRUU by olipro) not working, any other link to download?
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read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737
Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
Bram87 said:
Hi & welcome!
Ok..understand your problem and this is your first post and maybe you thought, "aah nice forum, He WM6 that looks nice, lets flash it on my device" ..Right simple ah? But..what you forgot..is to backup or read more about flashing..You cant reset it back to the original (what you wanna call it) "firmware"...
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Well, this is not EXACTLY correct. Check out THIS LINK for downgrade directions. You will need to get the original ROM from somewhere. It is possible that it is HERE IN THE WIKI. Chances are that one of the files there has the same Radio, IPL & SPL. You will just need to find the OS, if it is not in there. (In fact, based on the specs, it looks like the third from the bottom of the English ones - Vodafone?) To flash, you will need dutty's good nbh tool to unpack the ROM, becuase you will need to do the IPL and SPL separately from the OS and radio. See THIS LINK for that info. If you don't want to get into all the unpacking, you *could* do the SPL downgrade first, then the upgrade, but it is generally good practice to downgrade SPL as a LAST step since you lose the hardspl protection as soon as you do it. Finally, use the google search link in my signature if you need to find anything else. Good luck.
zetax said:
Hello
I.m new in the forum,i'm writing from italy and here i'can't find a valid and perfect forum like this,
yesterday i had my new Uk Vpa Compact 1605(Herm200) , with
Ipl 1.01
Spl 1.09
Os 5.1.461(Build 15671.3.3.0)
Rom vers. 2.07.161.1 released the 2nd of giune 2007
Radio 1.32.00.00
Protocol 32.65.7020.09W
At the end of the day i flashed Hardspl with new ipl 1.04 and spl 2.10
and new official Wm6.
now my questions is.. Can i reflash in my Vodafone 1605 all the original rom ,spl,ipl,radio, Os etc. etc. ???
If it is possible,where can i find all the file?
Thank you to alla for the help and congratulations for this fantastic forum
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Like Todd said it is possible.
Check out the links in my signature and read alot before actually doing so.....
That is a practice tip
The Mr VanX guide alias HTC Hermes guide has complete steps to do this!
Good Luck
Ok, tell me if i correctly understand..
I found the correct rom, after i have to unpack this rom with dutty's good nbh tool..(i have to remove Ipl & Spl?).
After the unpack i have to pack again the rom without ipl and spl and flash it in my Herm??!!is it correct? And in the end i have to change ipl and spl(is it a down grade?).
Last questions yet,
What i have to verify first that i start all this work on my herm to not brick my Herm?
Thank you to all again for the help that you are giving to me
All the best
I may have made it more complicated. That is the process I use.
Best thing to do is simply follow Mrvanx guides.
First downgrade the OS/Radio using THIS GUIDE
Then downgrade SPL/IPL using THIS GUIDE
That is all - as long as you have HardSPL, it is VERY hard to brick your device. So, do that last.
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
zetax said:
Is possible to flash only the rom i need following the guide, and leave my device with the current hardspl ipl and spl?
Thank you
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Yes. The only reason to remove HardSPL is for warranty. Just for clarification, there is no Hard IPL, only Hard SPL, but I know what you mean.
Basically, 99% of the time most of us flash we are only flashing OS or Radio. SPL and IPL don't change often. Most cooked ROMs are released as OS only.
Ah ok perfect, i'm not interested to the device warranty, because i bought it on ebay from Uk, and there is no warranty on my device, so i can only flash os without ipl and spl..
Thank you very much fo all the help
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Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
zetax said:
Hey boy,
sorry for the up, but i have another question(s)
I have downloaded the rom that i need, but it is in .exe extension how can i extract from this .exe the .nbh file that i will decompile with dutty's???
2nd question, it's possible to downgrade radio rom? i put radio 1.51.00.10 in my device,but i didn't like it, because the 1.47 version
that i had was better of 1.51
Thank you for help
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No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
todd_jg said:
No worries.
To unpack the exe, just use winrar and open it up. You will get a RUU_signed.nbh and an RUU. Just use the nbh file with the custom_ruu.
Yes, you can downgrade radio to 1.47 safely. No worries. I tried 1.51 too - didn't work out for me either. back to 1.50 for me.
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Todd, thanks very much, i didn't know that with winrar was possible to unpack an .exe file,now i have all i need to flash my device with the hold or the new vodafone uk rom.
Tnx my friend
I have done the flashing, it works perfect.. now i learn the way, i can flash every kind of Os in my tytn following this way?for example o2(Uk) os can be put in my device?
Where here in xda forum can i find the software(for eample the software that shaps have included in his Os) for my device customization?like today home,weather widget, or the automatic operator configurator etc etc?
Tnx todd
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
vma
I am newbie with X7500
vma said:
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
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I think is correct.
vma said:
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
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SPL 3.5 is for ROMs adapted from X7510 (but not for X7510)
vma said:
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
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Yes.
vma said:
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
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Yes.
vma said:
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
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You must make superCID in your X7500 (>>>SPL1.2)
vma said:
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
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I think ROM for SPL3.5 in SPL1.x and for SPL1.x in SPL 3.5
Thanks for the resonse.
So here is the sum up for all Newbies like myself:
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The Hitchiker's Guide to understanding SPL on Athena
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1) SPL = second stage bootloader
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
3) Athena 7510 is originally shipped with SPL 3.5
4) for different firmware to be loaded, one need a hacked SPL, that allows flashing unsigned firmware
5) There is a modified SPL 3.5 for the Athena 7500 that allows WM6.x firmware, ported from the Athena 7510 to run on the 7500
6) SPL 1.2 and 3.5 are incompatible, regarding firmware, due to the different amount of memory reserved for the ROM. A SPL 1.2 firmware won't run on SPL 3.5 and the other way around, neither. Trying to do so, will make the black screen or reset loop happen.
7) to get SPL 1.2 Olipro (the hacked one), you need to do the UNLOCKER procedure (search sticky)
8) to get SPL 3.5 Olipro, you need to install AP 4.0 (it's a WM6.1 firmware, that installs the SPL 3.5 Olipro as well)
9) to be able to install SPL 1.2 compatible firmware again, you need to follow the DOWNGRADER procedure (search sticky)
10) if you want to have, for warranty issues, the original SPL 1.2 back, you need to install an official dump. I am not 100% sure about this one...
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I hope my statements are correct. If not, please let me know, so this post can act as a beginners first read. Currently I have to confess, that it is quite confusing to understand these 10 points... And I am already familiar with modding the BA, Universal, HP 514, VDA GPS, etc.
Thanks,
vma
PS: Yes, I ask silly questions, but still I try to bring something back...
vma said:
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
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No, X7500 original is SPL 1.1
Is there a way to go back from i.e. SPL 1.2olipro to official SPL?
Thanks,
vma