[Q] Obtaining Root on Refurb? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, recently sent my phone back and got a refurbished one running the 2.11.605.9 update. I have tired both the Revolutionary method and the old method to obtain root on my phone to no avail, any advice?

Currently there is no way to root 605.9. You'll have to downgrade to 605.5 then you'll be able to root with whatever method you choose. Had to do the same thing myself, not difficult but EZ to flub up, read up n take your time. A couple of threads on this and IIRC even a sticky.
Tapatalkn with my T-Bolt

I found an exe file that apparently will allow me to flash the ruu without having to mess with doing it from hboot, will post a something so they can include it as a revision to the guide to rooting sticky if I this whole process works
Whelp it worked, all they have to do is that you need to download and run this installer and it will take you back to .5 then run revolutionary.io (source)

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[Q] No root after 2.11.605.9 HTC Thunderbolt

Been lurking for sometime learning things here and there, but now I've got an issue of my own I been pulling hair out over for the last 6 hrs.
I Upgraded to 2.11.605.9 Verizon OTA release today... attempted to use the revolutionary tool to re-root after the upgrade. Well that didn't work. I just get the message "Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. Failed to get Root! "
I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423 the non root users section. With no luck.
Pretty new at this stuff, so if someone can let me if its possible to get s-off, i'd just like to downgrade to an earlier pg05img and NOT get the latest update So i can use revolutionary root.
Thanks in advance.
Nick
Try this..
This thread sounds like the same problem as what you are having. Read what the last two commenters did to correct the problem they are having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308324
Also, the thread you originally posted is for returning back to stock, which is not the case. You want to refer to this thread at Thunderbolt Forums in order to acquire root...
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...ry-5-minutes-less-root-without-data-loss.html
Confirm that you are following each and every step. In addition, make sure you are using the USB ports on the back of your PC opposed to the ones in the front. Good luck!
CaptainStrange said:
This thread sounds like the same problem as what you are having. Read what the last two commenters did to correct the problem they are having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308324
Also, the thread you originally posted is for returning back to stock, which is not the case. You want to refer to this thread at Thunderbolt Forums in order to acquire root...
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...ry-5-minutes-less-root-without-data-loss.html
Confirm that you are following each and every step. In addition, make sure you are using the USB ports on the back of your PC opposed to the ones in the front. Good luck!
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I've rooted multiple times using the method above, but since the update, I can't get past the Zerging Root step, even following the posts from the first link you sent
Flashed the Pg image using .androidpolice.com/2011/10/24/exclusive-gingerbread-build-2-11-605-5-for-the-htc-thunderbolt-fixes-several-issues-from-the-previous-leak/[/url] and it works, I was able to re-root using the rev.
Capt....
I am having the same problem as him. After I got this warranty replacement yesterday, no matter what I tried, I can't get past "zerging root". Cannot gain root access. I see you said to flash that image, but how do you do that if you cannot get s-off. I have also rooted thunderbolt several times using the "one click method" (which is also not working for this new 2.11. 605.9 build) and revolutionary. Any suggestions or instructions?
You dont need S-off to load that image... Simply download the file and rename it pg05img.zip and put it on the root of your SD card. Reboot the phone and hold down the vol down + power button to access the bootloader, push the volume button and it will search the sd card for the pg05img.zip file and load it. Just keep in mind it will reload it to factory settings, so back anything up that you have. It takes about 15 mins, but it does work. Once you have that image loaded from the link above you can use the revolutionary root. Let me know if you need help.
Rooting after 2.11.605.9 on TB solution
For those of you that have endured the frustration of updating to the latest software version (2.11.605.9) There is hope! Apparently with this software version, the bootloader is locked. And for some reason this version would not allow the "Revolutionary" rooting method to work. (I would imagine everyone with this problem had issues with not being able to get past Zerg Root. At least that was the problem I had)
Anyways, I got my phone rooted....heres how.
Per the instructions for using Revolutionary, install the driver as stated on their website. (Make sure HTC Sync is not installed on your computer)
Download Mecha_2.11.605.3.zip (I'm a newbie here so I cant post links, but I found it through Android Police but if u google it its easy to find, its hosted on multi upload) rename the zip file as PG05IMG and put on the root of your SD card (as you would in other rooting methods) and run the bootloader.
Once its booted and all that fun waiting is over and your TB powers back up, make sure to turn off all wireless connections to make sure OTA doesnt try to upgrade you. (I turned on airplane mode as soon as I could)
From there run Revolutionary as instructed from their website. Worked like a charm for me, and hope it does for all of you with this same problem.
I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT FOR THIS SOLUTION. Thank you for all you developers out there that make our phones able to be so much cooler and more enjoyable. I'm just glad I could help in this marginal way, and hope that someone will find it usefull. SPREAD THE WORD IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE HAVING
So if I unroot and my phone takes the latest 2.11.605..9 update, all I have to do is flash the 2.11.605.5 RUU, put phone into airplane mode as soon as it boots, then I can root again?
I am not sure if I missed something but I followed those steps. When I went into boot, it said my version is "older- failed" and won't revert to the .5
I am miserable here with stock. I want to be rooted again.
Any thing else I can do?
Not sure why it wouldn't let you revert to an earlier RUU. Have you tried other earlier versions other than .5? The RUU I used was 2.11.605.3. Try that one. What version bootloader do you have? Also is there Pink letter at the top that says LOCKED?
I have not tried an earlier version... Yet. Will try and will update you. But the bootloader says "***locked***" s-on on the main screen. So I am not sure any older one will work. I read other people were able to accept a downgrade so I am hopeful.
Bootloader 1.5 and yes... It is ***locked*** sigh...
Try loading the 2.11.605.3 If it works just make sure you disable wireless connections when it boots, so OTA doesn't push the upgrade
Even if the OTA comes up before you disable any wireless connection it will download the OTA but then ask if you want to accept or defer. Just hit defer and proceed with the Revolutionary method to root and gain s-off.
*Note: when you hit defer on the OTA, it asks you for a date to remind you, I just set the date to 12/29/2099. If anyone is still using this phone on that date, please tell them not to accept the OTA
Ok guys hold on now, this is kind of misleaing... so did the OP have s-off for the downgrade ? Revolutionary has a password protected HBOOT that was designed to maintain s-off during an OTA or upgrade RUU, hence the reason a downgrade would be possible... Is the OP able to confirm they had S-OFF during the upgrade or S-ON. If i upgrade to 2.11.605.9 on a stock phone S-ON, am i going to be able to downgrade with ease ? I would say no.. not without tricking the bootloader into thinking its an older version which is what the commands are for:
adb push misc.img /data/local/
adb shell dd if=/data/local/misc.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17
However you can't do this without a temporary root shell.
on build 2.11.605.9 there is no exploit for temporary root shell currently..
Please clarify.. ?
rberry88 said:
*Note: when you hit defer on the OTA, it asks you for a date to remind you, I just set the date to 12/29/2099. If anyone is still using this phone on that date, please tell them not to accept the OTA
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No matter how far out you pick, the limit is 5 days. Picking anything longer, the phone will tell you that.
Like I was saying before the OTA came out, this OTA patches zergRush.
Bootloader has always been locked, this is not new.
I have a few vulns found, and erishasnobattery and I have a couple working exploits done.
However I am on vacation and wont be home until late tonight, once I am we will get something packaged and released for root.
Until then (this isn't the one we are going to release)
Awesome, i just bought my wife a t-bolt Friday and it did an OTA (that i just assumed was the same old gingerbread update that my buddy got but apparently it wasn't because i could not root. Thanks jcase for working on this for us.
I was able to get root with 2.11.605.9
I was already on 2.11.605.5 with root and S-OFF (revolutionary). Perhaps you can try one of the earlier releases such as MR2? This is what you do to get root with 2.11.605.9 if you can get your phone back to 2.11.605.5 or older:
1. Reinstall 2.11.605.5 stock (no root). I got the file from Android Police. I had to rename the file as PG05IMG.zip and run it from the bootloader.
2. Obtain S-OFF with Revolutionary after 2.11.605.5 has installed. Do not install clockworkmod or super user yet.
3. Allow the 2.11.605.9 OTA to be installed. Let the phone do it's thing, the update took my phone awhile.
4. Install Clockwork Recovery (again rename it as PG05IMG.zip and run it from the bootloader)
5. Boot into bootloader again and select Recovery. Install superuser.
6. Reboot and enjoy.
PS. I stumbled upon this on another thread here.
So I'm on a new phone that just did the .9 update about 10 minutes ago and then I find this thread after failing to root. So I'm s on stock everything. I can't revert can I? I'm screwed. I hate stock phones. Adds everywhere. No tether boring no options. I want my skyraider back.

Rooting after 2.11.605.9 solution

For those of you that have endured the frustration of updating to the latest software version (2.11.605.9) There is hope! Apparently with this software version, the bootloader is locked. And for some reason this version would not allow the "Revolutionary" rooting method to work. (I would imagine everyone with this problem had issues with not being able to get past Zerg Root. At least that was the problem I had)
Anyways, I got my phone rooted....heres how.
Per the instructions for using Revolutionary, install the driver as stated on their website. (Make sure HTC Sync is not installed on your computer)
Download Mecha_2.11.605.3.zip (I'm a newbie here so I cant post links, but I found it through Android Police but if u google it its easy to find, its hosted on multi upload) rename the zip file as PG05IMG and put on the root of your SD card (as you would in other rooting methods) and run the bootloader.
Once its booted and all that fun waiting is over and your TB powers back up, make sure to turn off all wireless connections to make sure OTA doesnt try to upgrade you. (I turned on airplane mode as soon as I could)
From there run Revolutionary as instructed from their website. Worked like a charm for me, and hope it does for all of you with this same problem.
I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT FOR THIS SOLUTION. Thank you for all you developers out there that make our phones able to be so much cooler and more enjoyable. I'm just glad I could help in this marginal way, and hope that someone will find it usefull. SPREAD THE WORD IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE HAVING
So are you back at 2.11.05.9 & rooted after this? or are you stick at 2.11.605.3 (since that is the RUU zip you installed)?
Just run a custom ROM and you do not have to worry about QTA uodates. They are mainly to take the root away anyways.
I'm at .3 still. Older root is better than no root, so I'm not complaining. I'm sure someone will be able to unlock 2.11.605.9 for use with Revolutionary. These devs out there are crazy smart.
I tried this steps i got s-off but when I boot my phone is see that superuser app is not here and cannot install recovery any ideas
same problem
the night after my phone updated to 2.11.605.9 I decided to root. Tried revolution, but had the same problem op described. Attempting the same solution, but using Mecha_2.11.605.5.
Hope it works.
worked!
Finally got it to work!
Downgraded to Mecha_2.11.605.5.
Used revolution to get s-off and apply cwm
Used file on revolution manual to get root..
now to select an appropriate rom...
Does this method, downgrading using the zip file you mentioned, still proceed to root WITHOUT wiping the phone apps, settings, data, etc?
I really want to root without getting rid of all that... for now... so that I can then use Titanium Backup or similar app to do an image of my pre-custom ROM phone in case I want to revert back later.
will lose data
helikyler said:
Does this method, downgrading using the zip file you mentioned, still proceed to root WITHOUT wiping the phone apps, settings, data, etc?
I really want to root without getting rid of all that... for now... so that I can then use Titanium Backup or similar app to do an image of my pre-custom ROM phone in case I want to revert back later.
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hey helikyler, downgrading will cause you to lose your settings and apps and what not. that is the drawback of this method. unfortunately you need root to be able to get a backup but you need to downgrade to be able to get root :-/
if its really that important to you to keep the data you may want to wait until revolutionary or another tool can obtain root on this release....
file found, thanks all
multiupload is down. you can find ruu files at bliynd [dot] com/ thunderbolt/ ruu/
There is Mecha_2.11.605.3.zip and Mecha_2.11.605.5.zip.
Thanks for all the help.
***LOCKED*** On Bootloader
Hello All,
First of all thanks for the awesome easy guide !!
This is the first time I am rooting my HTC Tbolt and have had an issue to start with.
Used the instructions in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
After I download the 2.11.605.5 downgrade zip, I rename it, put in on the SD Card and go to HBOOT and it installs the downgrade just fine.
But at the end of this process, when I try to get the MR4 Radio onto the SD Card and install it, it simply does not happen. HBoot checks for the file, finds it, but nothing happens. I have renamed in properly and followed instructions to the dot.
I also noticed a ***LOCKED*** right on top of the screen and I think this could be an issue.
Can I go ahead and proceed with the Revolutionary Root Technique ? Would this be possible at this point ?
Is there anyway I can get Flash the MR4 Radio before I actually root ?
Also, would I be able to flash the MR4 Radio onto my device after Rooting ?
Any help is much appreciated !
Thanks in advance !
Cheers !

[Q] If currently on 2.11.605.5 can you root without worrying about OTA updates?

I have a Thunderbolt that I keep downgrading so I can root it but those dam automatic updates are unstoppable and I want to know if I root it while on .5 will they keep updating or will the new root/rom stop it once and for all. Cause i heard if it updates while rooted phone gets messed up. If your rooted you would know thanks for reading!
you can root the .5 then flash the new .9 rooted rom and it will stop the update notices plus most roms block the update from happening anyway
Jrocker23 said:
you can root the .5 then flash the new .9 rooted rom and it will stop the update notices plus most roms block the update from happening anyway
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Would greatly appreciate if you or some else could post simple directions so I don't mess it up. I already no how to downgrade to .5 and I'm getting the idea that your saying use revolutionary to root then flash a rom. If that's the case then let me know and recommend a rom that everything functions normally on and I will be one happy android
1. Downgrade to .5
2. Run revolutionary to gain s-off
3. Boot into recovery and flash superuser.zip from revolutionary website to gain root.
4. Flash a custom Rom or stock rooted .9
And always check the md5 checksum of the files you download before flashing to verify the integrity of the file.
***LOCKED*** On Bootloader
Hello All,
First of all thanks for the awesome easy guide !!
This is the first time I am rooting my HTC Tbolt and have had an issue to start with.
Used the instructions in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
After I download the 2.11.605.5 downgrade zip, I rename it, put in on the SD Card and go to HBOOT and it installs the downgrade just fine.
But at the end of this process, when I try to get the MR4 Radio onto the SD Card and install it, it simply does not happen. HBoot checks for the file, finds it, but nothing happens. I have renamed in properly and followed instructions to the dot.
I also noticed a ***LOCKED*** right on top of the screen and I think this could be an issue.
Can I go ahead and proceed with the Revolutionary Root Technique ? Would this be possible at this point ?
Is there anyway I can get Flash the MR4 Radio before I actually root ?
Also, would I be able to flash the MR4 Radio onto my device after Rooting ?
Any help is much appreciated !
Thanks in advance !
Cheers !
Go ahead and finish the root/recovery/superuser process. Take the .5 and radio images off your SD card for the time being.
You don't have to flash the radios yet, if at all, honestly - depends on what ROMs you wish to run - if they require radio(s) different than what you have, flash them then.
Obtain root and back it all up first, then next steps.
sidrockrulz said:
Hello All,
First of all thanks for the awesome easy guide !!
This is the first time I am rooting my HTC Tbolt and have had an issue to start with.
Used the instructions in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
After I download the 2.11.605.5 downgrade zip, I rename it, put in on the SD Card and go to HBOOT and it installs the downgrade just fine.
But at the end of this process, when I try to get the MR4 Radio onto the SD Card and install it, it simply does not happen. HBoot checks for the file, finds it, but nothing happens. I have renamed in properly and followed instructions to the dot.
I also noticed a ***LOCKED*** right on top of the screen and I think this could be an issue.
Can I go ahead and proceed with the Revolutionary Root Technique ? Would this be possible at this point ?
Is there anyway I can get Flash the MR4 Radio before I actually root ?
Also, would I be able to flash the MR4 Radio onto my device after Rooting ?
Any help is much appreciated !
Thanks in advance !
Cheers !
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Why are you hijacking every thread with this post?
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[Q] sw 2.17 after hboot downgrade? revolutionary failed root.sw downgrade issues

Hi so I know there is tons of threads about software downgrades and revolutionary root fails etc. and I apoligize in advance for posting another.but Ive Been researching for hours a day for the past 2 weeks and Ive tried everything Ive come across to fix my issues with caution to no avail .Also everything Ive found is about just one of the problems Im dealing with and most are about downgrading sw in order to downgrade hboot. So I thought if I listed everything it would help overall in others process of downgrades and hopefully find a easy or atleast quicker way to fix these issues instead of going through each one at a time .so here it goes.....
I used unknownforce's method of downgrading my hboot from 1.50000 to 1.40000. and for some reason although my bootloader says hboot 1.40000 my software version is still 2.17. Now when I try and run revolutionary after i put the beta key in it says key accepted and starts with "zerging root...thhis might take a minute..."then says "failed to get root". I have run revolutionary several times now and redownloaded the file several times as well..hoping that it will catch as Ive read that sometimes it takes several attempts to work. Now Upon all my research Ive found that because my software is still 2.17 that its not truly hboot 1.4 until I downgrade my software to 1.3...Correct? and thats what is causing the revolutionary to fail getting root(or S_off) .And yes Ive unistalled HTC Sync(which i know needed to be unistalled for hboot downgrade process but not sure if i need it intalled to run RUU..Ive tried running RUUs both with and without HTCsync , Installed the 3.0.0.007 Drivers that comes in the unzipped rootingevo3d folder,my phone is in charge only mode when plugged into my pc , my debugging is on,fastboot unchecked,and Ive done severalfactory resets ,cleared caches and my cpu's antivirus is off ...
another note is the RUU that came in the downgrade zip didnt work so i had to find one that did.
Now Im trying to downgrade my software.. Ive run several of these versions of RUUs:
RUU_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.08.651.3_Radio_0.97.10.0808_NV_SPCS_1.31_003_release_219445_signed.exe(which was the original version of the ruu that came in the downgrade hboot zip , Ive just tried different downloads)
and RUU_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_1.13.651.7_Radio_0.97.10.0530_NV_NV_SPCS_1.16_release_198109_signed.exe (which as far as i understand is the last software version for hboot 1.4)
and I get This Error
[Error[140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again]
Ive also run several RUU zip files through my bootloader of the same software(which I renamed PG86IMG.zip) and It loads the file,then scans the file then it just goes straight back to the bootloader.It doesnt go through the whole list of files afterward and ask if i want to continue with update.
Ive also tried everything on a few different computers with the same results... another thing ive tried because durring the hboot downgrade process i gain temp root.i thought that was causing the issue running revolutionary. so ive run revolutionary after i took the temp root off and aslo with it back on as someone stated they fixed the revoltionary issue by gaining temp root then ran revolutionary and it worked . But i get the same root failed error.
Evo3d(cdma)
running:
Android version
2.3.4
Software #
2.17.651.5
hboot
1.40000
please help ..its much apreciated..
I hate to reply having to say that I "think" this will work but I'm just not positive. You need to run the 1.13 to get to the correct version. If you're already on 2.17 then you can't just run the 1.13, as you already know. I did my downgrade the same night it was discovered and at that point we had to change the mainvar so that the 1.13 would run. Unfortunately, the method has changed and those instructions are no longer there. However, if you look at the thread started by jlechner called simple guide to downgrade from the virgin mobile firmware (development sticky), you'll see instructions to set your mainvar to 0.0.0.0 and you should be able to run an older ruu or rom.zip.
Edit... Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647505 just follow directions until you get to the part where it says leave this window open and dial ##msl, you don't need to do that.
Hope this helps.
ohkay so you gave me a good idea of how to fix it. now reading the threads comments there seems to be some major issues and after effects . such as data issues activation issues and the fact that it will be running virgin mobile although it seems compatible its causing issues after running for a while.also it states you need to be on a rooted rom but im trying to gain root in the first place haha. and also it states something about having s-on can cause problems in certain steps (in getting s-off is my initial goal i dont want to create more issues in trying to fix my first one . my phones working fine right now and i dont want to take 5 steps back to take one step forward...but I do thank you for the information it is very informative and hopefully can in the least help me
so my idea is to follow the first part if downgrading hboot as far as changing the mainver to 1.1 . the step right before you start running the ruu. i think its step 8. and then just run the 1.3 ruu then try revolutionary. I hope its that easy haha
now my question to you is do you know if the misc version/mainver is what causes the whole virgin mobile transfer? can i follow the steps i said as far as following the hboot downgrade method to a point and use that misc version/main ver that comes in the link you posted ?
It is very apreciated and I'm always open to sugestions . I will use the information you provided and try my idea and post my results if sucessfull thanks again
Aha! Success !! Thank You wikdNoob! Your input was what got me here! So I did what I said I was going to try based on your input and it worked flawlessly. Got the mainver down using the one I used to downgrade my hboot to 1.4 (which I followed the step by step from sorry to say but we all need outsources at some point evohacksdotcom)which Is just Unknownforces method in a step by step.I did up to step 8 then ran the 1.3 RUU and from there ran Revolutionary and without any hiccups I'm hboot 1.4 with s-off! I find its very rare to find a solution in the first response even if its just using something someone says in the first reply.haha so thank you again for the input.It is much appreciated and I hope others can use this thread to fix the several issues i was having.

Flyer back from repair Hboot 1.11.00.11 HC

Hi I just got my flyer back from repair htc it was stock gingerbread when it went in even though I requested not to upgrade it in written notice they did the upgrade to honeycomb I want to get it back down to gingerbread what are my options from here Hboot reads s-on Hboot 1.11.00.11 any help would be appreciated to get me back to gingerbread
There are a couple of full length treads on this. Take a look in the development section
Its ok i managed to do it all back to gingerbread with s off and custom recovery.
How?
How did you s-off?
I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
HC root
I upgraded to HC using a OTA update and have Hboot 1.11.00.11. Device is a bestbuy wifi model. It has never been rooted, completely virgin. I would like to root to use apps requiring root access. I have collected that I will need to downgrade back to GB in order to do this. Is there a way that I can downgrade to GB, root, then upgrade back to HC? or will I have to keep GB? I just want to stay with a stock rom for the time being.
Thanks.
yes
there is a thread in development by globatron that spells out how to downgrade without htc dev unlock
once on GB you can use revolutionary to gain s off then follow globatron's easy hc s off thread
Ok, the downgrade thread you talk about is this: Here
Then use this thread to get S-OFF on GB: Here
Then use step two of this thread: Here
Is this correct?
yep
Also, one last question. When globatron says "Run your RUU" what does he mean?
A ruu is a exe file that contains and flashes the stock firm ware for your flyer. There are many variations
Ah ok, thanks! I thought it was similar to a rom file and needed to be loaded on your device and flashed in a special way. Thanks!

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