Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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GPS is usually a big energy hog. How many amps is your car charger?
You should be able to get away with a higher amperage charger, but the trade off may be reduced battery life.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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How fast does it discharge? I just went on an out of state trip last week and had gps on with the charger plugged in for several hours at a time. I didn't pay attention to the actual charge numbers, but it either discharges very gradually or charges very gradually. I could probably run it all day with the charger and gps without a problem. I don't recall the amp output of my car charger, but it is one of the cheap foreign models.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Reflash your ROM, dude. I had that problem on one of my initial GB ROM's where I had bad drain using GPS while charging in my car. I redownloaded and wiped everything and reflashed the ROM and everything was good.
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If you are running a custom ROM, you can use SetCPU (or any other CPU clock control app that allows profiles) to set max of 800MHz when plugged in. This should at least get you to even charge/discharge levels when plugged in and running GPS while driving. Probably will depend on your screen brightness.
I don't run GPS long term very often right now, but I was for a while and FWIW, I was able to stream pandora, run google maps with screen on, not have any lag, and get a slow charge from my car charger by limiting clock speed to 800MHz.
Your other option (and what I usually do) is turn off the screen during longer sections of GPS nav with no turns (like sections of highway). You'll still get audible notifications for the next turn/maneuver/interchange/whatever, and you can turn the display on then if you need visual along with audio nav. The phone shouldn't have any problem charging and running GPS with the screen off...
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Not all USB car chargers are alike. You need two things:
1. The car charger outputs higher current than 500ma. You need at least 700ma.
2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
Thanks for the tips guys.
My phone discharges at around 1% every 20 minutes or so. I've been doing things like turning the screen off during periods of downtime to help with this (actually charges when I do this).
I'm using cheapy car adapter actually that has two usb ports and 2 cigarette ports in it and I use that with a samsung branded usb cable.
Hm yeah I'll try and see if limiting the CPU will help and if it does perhaps I'll just do that from now on.
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2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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The correctly wired charger will typically short the USB data PINs. iPhone charges and most generic car chargers with UBS ports don't do that. Most HTC chargers and Motorola chargers will work on Samsung phones. You need take a look at your car charger to see how much amps it can supply (listed on the spec label). The PC usb can only output 500ma max per spec. It is not enough to charge the phone while keep the screen on, GPS running and 3G connection active. Your Samsung OEM wall charger is rated 700ma. So, you need a car charger that outputs at least 700ma.
You then need to verify from the phone that the particular charger is recorgnized by the phone as AC charger. Without that, the phone will only draw 500ma max.
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When I plug into the wall or use a power inverter in my car, it says "charging AC" and charges quicker. Although if I use a car USB dongle charger, it goes into "charging USB" mode and unfortunately, charges much slower. This really ticks me off as I just picked up a rapid charging 2.1amp(2100mA) USB car dongle.
Is there a way to tell the phone to charge as AC instead of USB? Or at least an app/widget that will change it?
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When I plug into the wall or use a power inverter in my car, it says "charging AC" and charges quicker. Although if I use a car USB dongle charger, it goes into "charging USB" mode and unfortunately, charges much slower. This really ticks me off as I just picked up a rapid charging 2.1amp(2100mA) USB car dongle.
Is there a way to tell the phone to charge as AC instead of USB? Or at least an app/widget that will change it?
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max current in the USB spec is between 500 and 900 mA depending on version. Congrats, you got scammed. Take it back.
Edit: Correction, there has been a modification to the spec to allow, ostensibly, mobile devices to draw greater power when charging. The device may draw up to 1800mA when connected as a Dedicated Charging Port which disallows data transfer in this mode. Two things to note about this. First, the HTC supplied AC-to-USB adapter lists a 1000mA (1A) current output, and your users manual (you did read the manual, right?) specifies you should only use this charger with your phone. Second, despite the fact that I am not even sure you would want the phone to take 1800mA, when it's designed to charge with 1000mA, your "rapid charging" device is STILL over-specced by ~14%. Not a gamble I personally would be willing to take.
Good luck.
Edit 2: To answer your original question, no, you cannot fix this in software. The dedicated charging mode is triggered by shorting the d+ and d- data contacts. If your USB dongle doesn't do this, then the phone will never, ever be able to recognize it as a dedicated charging port and you will only get 900mA charging current at 5V per the standard USB spec.
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Edit 2: To answer your original question, no, you cannot fix this in software. The dedicated charging mode is triggered by shorting the d+ and d- data contacts.
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Yeah, this seemed to be the final answer for giving the Desire enough juice to charge in a car while running nav. I don't plan on using nav a lot in my daily routine, but it would be nice to have a safe, effective answer to getting an "AC Charge" in a car. I saw the picture of voxigen's 12v port -> inverter -> AC USB adapter setup, but I don't have that much room around my 12v port in my car lol.
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Yeah, this seemed to be the final answer for giving the Desire enough juice to charge in a car while running nav. I don't plan on using nav a lot in my daily routine, but it would be nice to have a safe, effective answer to getting an "AC Charge" in a car. I saw the picture of voxigen's 12v port -> inverter -> AC USB adapter setup, but I don't have that much room around my 12v port in my car lol.
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i wouldn't mind continuing to use that inverter(aside from occasionally hitting my knee on it), just the downside to it is that whenever i'm playing music from my phone -> stereo, there'll be this weird buzzing/hissing sound in between tracks/when a song is paused, but while a song is playing it goes away... and it does not do that when i plug in through that usb charging dongle.
Has anyone noticed that phone does not charge while using GPS. The charging indicator is on but when I look at the stats it says discharging at -450 mAh. Is this the way it is and if so, is there a fix? 1 hr 42 m with 73% display on battery use and 43% charge remaining, but was plugged in the entire time while driving under an hour home. I am using the same Motorola high performance charger that every other phone is charged fully even when using GPS.
are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
Mine charges normally with gps on.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
you need a charger putting out 1A ... most car chargers put out 500mA so find a good one off monoprice
Here's what I'm doing. I have a Belkin 2.1A(2100mAh) USB car charger dongle. The problem is, once i connect the USB cable to it the phone registers it as "Charging USB" and does notcharge anywhere near as fast(power-wise) as if the phone was registering it "Charging AC". I'm not keen on using a power inverter to get the full AC charge so instead i am going to go pick up a cheap micro USB cable, splice it open, then disconnect the data wires(green & white ones) & then tape it back up. By disconnecting the data wires, the phone will no longer think it's a USB connection and then charge via AC, getting the best charge possible.
that should work ^ if thats the problem
I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I'm guessing that I have the same belkin dual port (2.1amp and 1amp ports) and the best I've seen out of it is about 250mah charging. This is using the supplied usb/micro hdmi whatever cord for the phone.
I have seen discharge rates off the charger of 750mah which is the highest I've seen on any phone. I'm guessing if you are using the nav on your phone with the screen on, it will probably still be using battery while plugged in.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
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Possible, but says AC charging in Battery Monitor widget. I will post a few pics.
Here are a few Pics. you can see a couple of things.
-Charger rated at 950 MA out. and no other phone I have owned lost a charge while driving including TBolt, Charge, Bionic.
-Shows as AC charging
- Spikes of good charging detected
Put on Normal power mode today on the way in. live wallpapers did not wrok, just flickered. 3G on vice 4G. Battery still went down, but above 90% on 40 minute drive in. Screen low but on. Bluetooth speaker.
Maybe it is the iBolt car mount. See review online. will try without dock this afternoon on my way home.
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Try playing pandora when the phone is 100 charged. After 45 minutes on the car mount (and yes it is plugged into a charger and all indicatros show it is charging) and the charge level is 84. Using the same charger but plugged into the phone, playing Pandora for 45 min starting charge level 68. Ending charge level is 100.
Yeah, something is telling that charger to not give you full juice
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ok, drove home off the window mount and just on charger, all same except full brightness on screen.40 minute drive. came up 7% battery vice down from 100 to 43%. nedd a few trials to confirm, but looks like window mount is throttleing juice.
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are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
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i have seen spurts up to 913 with GPS off and screen just turned on. Using battery monitor widget. Not on window mount, just charger.
I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
I wonder if there's a quick mod to it to get it working right. Like the soldering of the USB chargers I've seen.
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I just went ahead and bought an extra battery so I wouldn't have to charge in the car. Only takes 20 seconds to pop in a new battery.
Can charge both batts while I sleep at night.
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I was looking for a high current charger for my Android tablet and there was a review that talked about compatibility. Some of the high cap chargers appear to be designed for Apple products and the pin wiring is subtly different. So, on some non-Apple products, the charge is only recognized as a lower power, 500mah charger and the users reported that some devices would normally charge and others would not. Some of the dual port charges also split the power. The 2.1 amp port and the 1 amp port cannot be used at the same time, depending on what is plugged into them. This was also brand specific. I ordered the Amazon Basics 2.1 amp dual charger and will see how that works. I have noticed a difference in charge rates between my Motorola charger left over from the Blackberry and the Verizon OEM one. The VZW one is faster.
I do the same thing I have been doing since my Windows phone days.
I use the AC cord plugged into a 12v to AC adaptor(screen set to 100% bright and no timeout).
I drove 6 hours last week ruuning Google Maps/GPS & my battery was 100% charged when I got to my destination.
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When ever I drive, I have my phone hooked up to my Escort Red Line radar detector and my car's stereo via bluetooth (both). In order for me to use the radar detector effective, I need to have GPS and Blueooth enabled. This is a HUGE SUPER OMG battery drainer for my amaze. 20 minutes drive kills about 35% of the phone's power. My radar detector offers a slot to charge my phone BUT it still drains, not enough juice flowing in. Someone said it is because it's probably a .5amp.
So I am running a extension from the 12v lighter that's in the trunk to the front of my car. Amazon has a generic 2.1amp for 3 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Heavy...121&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+amaze+car+charger+amp
But on ebay, I found the original HTC car charger for 15 bucks which is a 1amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Amaze-4...918506?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c867022a
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
The 2.1 amp is probably 1 amp per port. Although it does not seem to specify.
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What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
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The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
Higher voltage will trip a warning window telling you to disconnect and use official HTC equipment.
The phone monitors input voltage to protect the equipment.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
I recently got an Amaze and am generally happy with it. The biggest problem I have right now is finding the right car charger for it because the car charger I previously used (a 1A monoprice car charger) doesn't give it enough charge. I have been reading through the forums and some has been saying that if the charger is not working properly, it will recognize it as charging via USB rather than AC. In my case, the phone seems to be reading it as charging through AC, but there still doesn't seem to be enough current going through it. The phone will only charge if NOTHING is going on (i.e. screen's off, no GPS, etc.). I've been using CoPilot GPS and it draws the battery like crazy. Anyone has any idea as to which car charger would work properly with the Amaze such that I'll be able to charge (or at least maintain the charge) while using it as a GPS? Do I need to go up to a 2.1A charger?
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
I couldve sworn we talked about this months ago. Let me see if I can find the thread.
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I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
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you won't get the full 2.1a unless you usee a charge only cable or modify the charger as I stated above...
I ended up getting a 2.1A car charger and a USB charge only cable, and it's working perfectly. When I have the screen on full brightness and doing navigation with Co-Pilot GPS, my phone's no longer losing charge and is actually charging. The combo also works with my tablet as well.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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I have done this to every single one of my USB car chargers... not a single issue...
Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Same here. Glad to hear it is not just me. I just got off with NA HTC Tech Support. There official stance is that they do not recommend or support using any device other than the official charging cable and plug in device. They went as far to say that they do not support charging in the car. I just about flipped my lid on the phone.
Here is the link to their site: http://www.htc.com/us/support/howto...783&p_name=droid-dna-by-htc-(verizon-wireless)
"Only the power adapter and USB cable provided in the box must be used to charge the battery"
I was told by Verizon that this was just a scare tactic, while HTC says I am not getting the right charge and they have no answer since they do not support DC charging in the car. Any info people have is appreciated. It works fine with Hard Wired DC -MicroUSB, but not with any USB Plug in.
Any apps that would help me measure the amount of charge it is getting?
Thanks in advance.
What are the specs on your car charger?
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So odd that they would do that, especially with the power draw of the phone. However you can charge using the battery packs?
My car adapter is a Macally USB car adapter model carusb10 output 5v/2.1 amp x1 500mA x2.
As for my house adapters the RCA 2 port USB wall adapter. 2.1 Amp x 1 or 1000mA x 2 I believe.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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I have tried several different USB adaptors, from Razorfish(BestBuy), Belkin single USB input 2.1amp, innocell (RadioShack) dual SUB 3.1amp. Same problem on all.
On the other hand, any direct Wall connection with USB cable attached seems to work fine.
Also, I have the Motorola p4000 battery backup and when I plug that in, it also works fine and views it as AC.
Swapping the pins didn't work for me, same issue. Its a pita for me especially charging in the car because when using phone for navigation it charges so slow that it can't actually charge my phone and my battery decreases. I've went the route in the car I use my nexus 7 charger connected to an inverter.
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From my phone conversation with Seth from HTC Support, the slow charging warning is due to the update because the update incorporates the faster charging feature that qualcomm & htc have referenced too recently (can't remember what its actually called). The phone has a new type of charging setup that makes it charge faster than some other phones.
Unfortunately some chargers (wall/car) dont supply enough voltage to activate the charging feature so while the phone does charge fine (it charges at standard phone charge rate) it cannot charge at the faster rate due to the charger.
He states that this will not harm the phone and ther phone will charge fine and it a normal time. You can disregard the warning. For those that like the faster charge rate, you have to use the right charger/cable.
Before the update our phones were mostly charging at the slower rate and that's why most didn't see a warning unless the cable being used was below the standard rate of charge.
Hope this helps
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Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Why are there so many problems about this thing lately even me, I experience this most of the time
When I use the Best Buy 2.1 amp wall charger I still get the message.
I'll need to find my oem wall charger.
So far every one I have gives this message.
I haven't seen this message at all on any of my charges but I haven't charged in the car yet. My battery usually lasts for more than the while day so I just charge at night.
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Well with the faster charging enabled it does charge pretty quick especially using my nexus 7 wall adapter, even with my Nokia Qi pad. But man that last percent takes a while.
As of now I'm using supercharged hatka ROM slim 3.0.3 and getting good battery life. Even in the middle of nowhere where 75% percent of the time when I'm in the plant its searching for signal. I'll leave work after 8 hours and still be at 60%
Guess you can say its the only negative I have for the phone. Trust me the battery life is much better in the plant then my old bionic. I use to have to change the standard battery after 4 or 5 hours as it was completely dead.
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Last night I received my daughters replacement Rezound from the warranty company. It came with a 1 amp wall charger.
I plugged it into my DNA and did not get the notice of slower charging and it charged quicker than I've ever seen it.
Too bad my 2.1 best buy one won't.
The quick charge capable chargers must output just slightly higher voltage to trigger the rapid charge mode.
I'll experiment some day and see.
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I have the charger that came with the phone it it fully charges my DNA in 2 hours from 3%
Funkertosh said:
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I kinda figured it was something with the pins if I wasn't voltage offset.
I did find that one of my car chargers from best buy runs in quick charge. The cable I fixed, rather than using a usb cable in a slot on the charger.
The best number 2.1 amp wall charger uses a data type cable.
Maybe I'll check into shorting the pins on that sucker to get quick charge mode.
Funkertosh said:
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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The phone is doing more than checking pins now. I have a 2.1 Amp dual charger with pins shorted and get the warning. It happily charged in AC mode before the update. The charger can also charge a nexus 10 at 2 Amps. I'm guessing the kernel devs will have to locate the source of the warning. I thought the resistance between the data pins might be the trigger, but there is no difference between the HTC charger and my dual charger. It does seem my car charger is unaffected.
I have found that to trick the phone into AC mode you have to short the the actual cable. Hence strip the insulation off the wires and short the data wires together. Has worked for me on all my chargers.
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This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
Clay333 said:
This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
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It could be the charging equipment your phone or it could also be the power source not providing enough power to the device for it to charge fast so it charges slow.
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I'm on vacation and if i didn't have two battery's i would be lost. For some reason while running navigation i still lose battery even while plugged into charger. Any reasonable input is well appreciated.. Thanks guys..
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Is your screen brightness all the way up? That's a battery hog.
Also what kind of charger is it plugged into? If it's a cheap off brand it might not be enough power.
Is any thing else running?
I use Google nav all the time and it barely charges when plugged in. But it does charge.
It's really an issue of how much juice your charger is pushing out vs. the power needed for your screen, apps, and GPS. I have a USB connection in my car that I use and it definitely losses power while charging under said conditions. I'm able to counter this by simply turning off the screen whenever possible (like when you don't have to make a turn for several miles).
In order for our phone to charge while using Navy (whether Google or any other 3rd party Navy app), your car charger needs to put out MINIMUM 1amp. MINIMUM. Download current widget from the app store. It will tell you how much your charger is putting out.
(The units in the widget is off by 1000. Ie if the output is 900, then it is 0.9A.). A value ranging above 500 or 0.5A should be what you are getting on a regular charger. Close to 0.9-1A. This value will fluctuate a little as the batter reaches full charge and while the phone trickle charges.
USB and cheapie car chargers usually give you no more than 500 or 0.5A. Running NAV or watching video while plugged into this connection. Will not charge the battery. Usage exceeds the charge current.
Even using GPS on a 1A charger will not give you full charge speed. I would recommend a 2A charger if you want to be able to charge while using the NAV.
I am using a Samsung 2A USB car charger myself. Since the charger is capable of delivering 2A, while the NAV is running, the charger is capable of providing full charge.
There is a circuit in the phone that prevents excess current. (Well from what I have read, and my usage so far. Current widget has never shown anything over 1A-1.2A).
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