The above section in the Galaxy S3 forum either needs to be updated (cause the info is incorrect and only applies to non-LTE devices) and/or LTE section needs to be severed from the rest of the forum.
We still have people who even though they have done right thing, have backed up their NV_DATA /EFS directory bla bla bla many don't check updater scripts to see what partitions are being mounted when flashing something from recovery. They might be downloading something from Themes and Apps section and not realise that its mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p9 instead of /dev/block/mmcblk0p13. This is not the themers fault either.
How else are we going to fix this issue other than requesting that developers for all of SGS3 and themes and apps *only* call generic mounting points from recovery? That seems like the only fix for this that I know of?
Just the other day for example I almost even slipped up myself, I had patched my kernel and wanted to run the patched libs for the camera on my I9305. I thought "Oh sh!t I probably should check the updater script just to make sure it has the correct mounting point?"
Sure enough.....there it was mount("ext4", "EMMC", "/dev/block/mmcblk0p9", "/system");4
Take a look at the rest of the forums and see just how many sub sections there are for SGS3
[*] Verizon SGS3- 1.5Ghz Qualcom duel core 2GB RAM different to international yet same as the other variants but gets its own forum
[*] Sprint SGS3- 1.5Ghz Qualcom duel core 2GB RAM different to international yet same as the other variants but gets its own forum
[*] T-mob and others- 1.5Ghz Qualcom duel core 2GB RAM different to international yet same as the other variants but gets its own forum
[*] AT&T Rogers and others - 1.5Ghz Qualcom duel core 2GB RAM different to international yet same as the other variants but gets its own forum
Here's us LTE i9305 users probably the most different out of all of the SGS3 devices and yet we get shoved in here with the international and we don't even remotely share the same specs in the above info section
[*] International (including 4G LTE which should have it's own forum)
Surely the forum admins/mods have got to acknowledge what I am saying here?
I know our users are whinging and *****ing that there are not as many developers in our section and it sucks, and I acknowledge that segementing it even further is likely to seperate *some* of the benefits of themes and apps and or devs (especially those in our section) will need to make duplicate threads when they have a theme that is suitable cross all devices (but only if the script doesn't call the full path to the mounting point). Yes I am actually suggesting to make things harder for my self in some aspects cause I currently have a theme that suites all S3 variants
I am happy to discuss other solutions if anyone has any, I am not laying this down as a demand or anything I am just pointing the pros and cons of doing things this way. So feel free to post your thoughts on this
James
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So Samsung Canada has officially announced that all the Canadian versions are going to be just like the Japanese one with the Snapdragon CPU for LTE support and 2GBs of ram, at a glance it appears that everything else under the hood should be the same more or less (obviously dont know for sure but just guessing) so What Im wondering is will the firmwares be the same for these 2GB varients or will there be enough differences that the modding and development area of the S III will differ to the point that anything made for the GT-I9300 wont work on these models?
Naturally the assumed answer would be no, such as the custom SGS2's that have 4 touch buttons and no home key compared to the international model, however all S III's appear to all be the same layout of 2 touch 1 home and same phone design ect, just different CPU and amount of ram inside the phone.
+1 for this question, this will make if I buy or not the phone
The amount of memory is the least of your concerns.
The device is using a completely different chipset, it uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, so no, firmware/roms made for the GT-i9300 will not work on the version you're getting, not even the HSPA+ one.
But i'm sure there will still be a lot of support for doing custom roms on your versions as well
This has always been the case... anything for the "I " will have to be ported to work on north American variants... there will be different modems/kernels ...international will get updates first and certain things will be pulled to build roms for us.
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Both of them are based on different soc. international version is using the exynos chipset
and the lte version is using the qualcom chipset. so the roms would be totally different
What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
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What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
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Actually its both, I guess I should of worded this better with more details lol.
But my main thoughts were dev work on the international GT-I9300 and mods/addons etc working on the LTE 2GB varient (since at a glance it looks like they are the same phones but with different CPU/Ram), also as well Japanese/Canada/USA versions working together since it looks like all 3 countrys are getting the same model phones with the same hardware (different model numbers though because of branding purposes but same hardware inside the phone).
Im not looking for custom roms though my main thoughts are small addons that you generally see in the themes and apps section and the huge following that you see with the S II and constant checking and usage with new firmwares for the shake of improving everyones device, and most important of all CF-Root for the device. My concern is that most of the dev's will be putting the work and effort into the international model and not the other ones so I will be SOL unless I get the international model (which is why the question in the first place), but heres the other thing that bothers me with that...
It feels like its not worth the upgrade (hardware wise), everything is the same except 200MHz faster CPU with a couple extra cores that most apps probably wont take advantage of for some time to come, and a 720p HD screen which is nice but not really necessary. The S III feels more like a software upgrade rather then a hardware one (amazing software and improvements Samsung has done for the device over the S II for sure), but to me it feels like its not worth it unless your getting all the hardware improved upon aswell, like were just re-buying our S II's because its "shinier" with new and improved software lol.
Doesn't anyone else feel that the S III should of been not only a CPU upgrade but double the ram, improved MP's on the front and back camera's etc etc?
So with all that in mind atleast for me it feels like if im to get the upgrade it should actually be a nice upgrade (hardware wise) you know what I mean?
Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
Chainfire said:
Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
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Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
FISKER_Q said:
Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
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No I ment both. Compared to the international model and as well between the same alternate ones that are the same.
Pretty much don't want to get the 2GB ram model if most of the development is only for the international model, however getting the normal one over my S II feels like I'm practically getting a small upgrade if the ram isn't getting doubled among other things.
Sent from my GT-I9100M using XDA
I've noticed talk of different SGS3's in certain countries, sorry if this sounds a bit of a stupid question but I'm confused.
What are the differences between these devices, and why are there differences? Why not just ship the exact same handset worldwide?
Thanks
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using XDA Premium
Except for north America they are just different firmware. Hardware is the same.
The reason is different languages, modems and in some cases locked to a certain carrier or with carrier branded firmware.
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The reason I'm confused is because I've noticed some people saying they bricked their phone because they accidentally followed the root instructions for the international version (something like that anyway).
Also I'm sure I read somewhere that the international SGS3 has a different (better?) processor. Is this true?
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The International version Uses - Quad Core &1GB RAM
The American version Uses - Dual Core & 2GB RAM - Due to LTE being a battery hog - LTE is super fast internet
The Korean Version Uses - Quad Core & 2GB RAM - Don't know why they got that maybe because its Samsung's home town - Brown Nose
Anyway there all the same on the outside. That's all i can tell you but I'm sure somebody else will fill you in
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Hardware is different - as already stated - so drivers from the international I9300 won't work on those and hence "brick" it.
Firmware / ROM / OS / whateveryoucallit differs a lot on those models too, down to the partition layout. It's a nightmare what Sammy did there this time.
HellcatDroid said:
Hardware is different - as already stated - so drivers from the international I9300 won't work on those and hence "brick" it.
Firmware / ROM / OS / whateveryoucallit differs a lot on those models too, down to the partition layout. It's a nightmare what Sammy did there this time.
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So, no hope for anything resembling, hellraised rom or at least framework for these, right?
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NA SGS3's use the qcom S4 over the exynos quad, thus roms and kernels will not work across them, and flashing an international rom on a NA phone will brick it.
There is no foreseeable way to simply and easily port roms across (aka nothing as easy as hellraising).
so whats the point in having an unlcocked bootloader if you cant even do anything to it..
i have the tmobile version of the galaxy s3 which only has 2 roms available
we cant flash any international roms onto the phone.
when i had the htc sensation i unlocked the bootloader and got s-off
and was flashing international stuff/roms
why cant we do that with the galaxy s3???
i know ill probably get lots of hate on this
or this has already been posted,sorry if
it has..
The international version has different hardware. It has the Exynos processor and Mali GPU. The US versions have the Snapdragon SoC. This requires different code optimization and different communication interfaces for each hardware component. There are actually a lot of little differences in the hardware, most because of the Exynos vs. Snapdragon CPUs and the way it interfaces with the hardware.
For example, both versions have the same LEDs and everything, but the Light Flow dev(s?) had a problem getting the US S3 to work even though the international one worked. In fact, I'm not sure if Light Flow is fixed yet for the US S3. And that's just one of the minor differences. More important components could cause huge problems.
I'm willing to bet that the Sensation had all the same hardware, international or not, but the radios were a little different. If that were the case with the S3, then yeah, we could use international ROMs. Different processors (and most likely, different motherboards, too) make a huge difference.
There are more roms than that. Flash cyanogen 9, 10, aokp, or redrum or team sonic's to name a few
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At this point, you can't even flash Roms across different US carriers much less the international version. Which really is an almost completely different phone.
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Hi Guys!
I will be getting my AT&T unlocked OG e970 next week. My previous device was HTC Desire S and I used it's official xda section to get answers and stuff... I came here to xda in search of a dedicated forum for the e970 model and was surprised to see only a single OG forum for multiple variants of this device.
As the hardware specs are more are less the same except the dimensions, camera and modem versions, I am kind of left wondering what features (either software/hardware) are drawing the line between these models.
Things I know so far
1. There are 2 variants for the device (International and regional)
2. Different radios (modems) can't be flashed across the devices. Eg., Flashing e975 Europe's radio onto an AT&T e970 as this would cause disruption in networks and connections such as 3G.
Things I would like to know
1. Are the radios of different models for the same region cross compatible? Eg., Is it possible to use the radio of Europe's e975 onto an Europe's e973?
2. Apart from mere hardware changes what are the features present/absent in the various versions (e970,e975,etc) of this device. Do they have any additional standout features such as qmemo, "see through lockscreen", irblaster (as in G Pro). If so what are the unique features of different models?
I've seen various review videos and articles and nothing seems to highlight the uniqueness of various versions of this phone other than that 13/8 MP camera.
So if you own one of these models of OG and happen to bump into this thread, kindly spare a few minutes of your time to clarify my doubts and many others out there too
Thanks
Andromann said:
Hi Guys!
I will be getting my AT&T unlocked OG e970 next week. My previous device was HTC Desire S and I used it's official xda section to get answers and stuff... I came here to xda in search of a dedicated forum for the e970 model and was surprised to see only a single OG forum for multiple variants of this device.
As the hardware specs are more are less the same except the dimensions, camera and modem versions, I am kind of left wondering what features (either software/hardware) are drawing the line between these models.
Things I know so far
1. There are 2 variants for the device (International and regional)
2. Different radios (modems) can't be flashed across the devices. Eg., Flashing e975 Europe's radio onto an AT&T e970 as this would cause disruption in networks and connections such as 3G.
Things I would like to know
1. Are the radios of different models for the same region cross compatible? Eg., Is it possible to use the radio of Europe's e975 onto an Europe's e973?
2. Apart from mere hardware changes what are the features present/absent in the various versions (e970,e975,etc) of this device. Do they have any additional standout features such as qmemo, "see through lockscreen", irblaster (as in G Pro). If so what are the unique features of different models?
I've seen various review videos and articles and nothing seems to highlight the uniqueness of various versions of this phone other than that 13/8 MP camera.
So if you own one of these models of OG and happen to bump into this thread, kindly spare a few minutes of your time to clarify my doubts and many others out there too
Thanks
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there are multiple threads for the LGOG phones, you just happen to have posted in the AT&T thread, which is the E970.
international forum (e975) includes canadian variants (e971-e973) http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1838
sprint LGOG http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1907
Our standout feature is an SD card slot, my main reason for preferring this model. Also, having hardware keys is nice (compared to google nexus 4, aka mako ) which is exactly this phone, but with the other two options reversed. We can flash mako radios, but theres little reason to do so, but there are hybrid radios that use core parts of ours with updates revisions from the google side. I haven't used stock rom in so long I have no idea what would be different, if anything among the stock features. Poke around the forums, including the nexus 4 forum and get your read on for whatever it is you're looking for.
Thanks for the info
[r.]GimP said:
there are multiple threads for the LGOG phones, you just happen to have posted in the AT&T thread, which is the E970.
international forum (e975) includes canadian variants (e971-e973) http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1838
sprint LGOG http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1907
Our standout feature is an SD card slot, my main reason for preferring this model. Also, having hardware keys is nice (compared to google nexus 4, aka mako ) which is exactly this phone, but with the other two options reversed. We can flash mako radios, but theres little reason to do so, but there are hybrid radios that use core parts of ours with updates revisions from the google side. I haven't used stock rom in so long I have no idea what would be different, if anything among the stock features. Poke around the forums, including the nexus 4 forum and get your read on for whatever it is you're looking for.
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Hi GimP, thanks for the info on availability of various forums for various variants. And yes, I forgot to mention about the SD card slot. Before reading your reply, I thought each one of the model eg., e970 had an international variant and a regional variant. Thanks for clearing things up for me. Although your answer was helpful what I expected to know was the presence of special feature available on the different regional models (like the indian e975 which has native fm support, the korean models which can receive free to air TV channels, etc) like that.
But thanks anyway
Greetings,
I'm posting this on the General as the forum associated with this mobile device is pretty much dead ATM. It falls very much more in the category of "I need help figuring out how to do this Android Global thing" rather then a very specific issue with a device.
The long and the short of it is the Samsung Galaxy On5 SM-G550T/1 was a fairly short lived phone in the US. It's a barebones phone that has a lot of features of design choices of the Galaxy S5 and S6 while having very minimal accessory hardware (which as an altimeter and advanced GPS systems).
This phone, however, has seen *A LOT* of popularity in Easter EU, Middle Eastern or Indian markets and thus there is a TON of Rom development still active for this phone.
The SM-G550FY has significant differences with the Sound Drivers, Camera Drivers, Bluetooth Drivers and Modem Drivers that makes the ROMs, in general, compatible enough to be installed, but not compatible enough to have the Sound or Camera work and has varying levels of Modem and Bluetooth viability; more often then not, they work though.
Someone finally dropped a hint that most these drivers are in the /system/lib folder requiring CHMOD of 740 to work; but no one to the best of my knowledge has actually gotten this "workaround" to work. This was something that was completely foreign (no pun intended) to many of us who have posted in that forum. I've had zero success with this, but it seems to have gotten me looking in new directions for fixes.
So my questions are a few fold that I hope the XDA greater community can help with:
#1.) Is there a way to import the correct drivers that are verified working in the same version of Android from another rom?
#2.) Are drivers for different versions of Android the same (IE 6.0 and 7.0 since those are the ROMs being regularly released) or are we reliant on Samsung to release a properly working set of 7.0 drivers to get Android 7.0 working on the US/CA variants of the phone?
#3.) I'm looking for good resources to learn how to build an installer for a ROM to try to build and release a patcher to make SM-G550FY roms compatible with SM-G550T/1 Roms. What resources could you suggest to get myself better up to speed to doing this.
#4.) I'm also looking for good resources to learn how to build ROMs perhaps based on Lineage for my model of the phone. Where would I go to learn more about that?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.