[Q] Boot Time Concern - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have done searches on boot times and other than reading the article about the guy who propsed to his fiance on the boot screen of her phone I did not see a real answer to my question/concern.
I have noted that after having installed about 60 apps my tablets boot time is now double. It went from 37 seconds to about 75 seconds.
I have run several "startup manager" apps but mostly they find that many apps have added items that run post boot. I have disabled those and it makes no difference.
What other than the fact that the apps occupy space in memory causes this kind of change in my startup time?
I am not thinking so much that I want/need fast bootups, rather that if these apps are causing slow boot times, what else are they doing to my tablet? Such as lesser performance overall due to running processes etc...
Constructive input would be appreciated, Thanks!

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I've been using it since launch and haven't had much lag.
You can always try a hard reset if its that bad.
Test it while using regular home and kill sense UI, see if there's a difference.
Well, I only get a lag from time to time. It's just that I noticed this increase in memory usage for no particular reason. I'll try to track down the offending apps if I can. I might try a hard reset though. Can't hurt.
I notice that the browser and my exchange "mail" process freeing up the most memory when I use Advanced Task Killer to "Auto-End" all non-excluded apps every hour.
Once, the mail app was taking up 30mb of RAM. It's not uncommon for the browser to take up 20 or more either. After a while, I also see what you mean, in that when I first start my phone with the same 6-9 system processes I have anywhere from 90-100MB free, and after a while when killing them, I can only get to 75-80 free.
Since I had the Mogul a while back, I tend to watch RAM closely since that phone only had a measly 20 free after boot.
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I'm seeing the same thing as well. I use TaskPanel X to track memory usage and apps. Likewise the memory seems to slowly decline over time. Additionally even if I kill all the non-critical apps so it is like it was when it booted, I'm still about 30-40MB less than after a fresh boot.

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I have been experiencing some strange behavior, but I am a backup whore, so this is more curiosity than anything else...
Whenever I read up on VC, ti seems that a best practice is to test setting for at least a day to ensure that you are stable with them before saving as boot settings.
I do this - on the regular. The weird thing is that I will test settings for days on end with no issue, but as soon as I save as boot settings, teh next boot chugs me into FC hell and/or boot loops.
I *think* I may have noted the issue lying in the fact that the app was on teh SD card, and I a *hoping* that that is where the issue lies. I mean, until the media scanner is complete (and I have the scripts that speed that up [running the 3072 version at present]) most, if not all apps that are on the SD card are not listed in the app drawer, and it seems to populate as they are scanned... So it would make sense in my noob-mind that the settings cannot be made at boot per se until teh scan is past voltage control... Does this make sense?
I have moved it back to the internal memory and am ready to give it a try, but thought I'd toss the thought out there and see what others think...
TIA.
i would think you'll have better results this way. just like you said it couldn't possibly get the information as it boots if it hasn't scanned the card yet. or at least i wouldn't think it could.
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Well it was a sound presumption. Went ahead and set boot settings, rebooted and it did the trick.
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Hi all.
After switching around from ROM to ROM, the main issue I seem to be facing all the time is that the ROM's start out pretty fast and stable, but after I load up all my stuff, they all start bogging down. Now this is to be expected. I have quite a few apps that run in the background and some widgets that also get loaded, etc... But checking my memory manager, I can also see that lots of apps I don't need at the moment and even some games are also hogging memory, despite the fact I haven't launched them since booting or have since killed them with a mem manager. This gets frustrating as at the moment I can identify anywhere from 75 to 125 megs being used for apps and games that load something when I don't need them to do anything right now.
My question is, how do I prevent them from loading or reloading automatically? I have a boot manager, but they aren't in there. Also set memory manager to auto kill every x mins, but this is just a temporary patch since after killing them they tend to reload very fast.
Anyone have a solution? I'd be most appreciative.
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While my phone Android phone (Desire Z, stock 2.3.3, not rooted) used to be pretty swift after I got it, it significantly slowed down over time.
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[Q] Free memory and apps starting again and gain

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