Any suggestions for a Laptop Battery Limiter?
I like to keep my HP laptop plugged in but I want it to stop charging to protect the battery.
There are a few options out there, but I don't see much for reviews.
Battery Limiter
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3 Best Laptop Battery Management Software to Limit Charging
If you need reliable laptop battery management software to stop battery charging and improve its longevity, we suggest checking out our top.
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Laptop Battery charging limit
How do I turn on or activate the 80% battery charging limit?
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I use to just pull it on my one laptop, problem being if it losses power.
My dinosaur Latitude has that useful feature.
I think it needs hardware support to work, some laptops like Dell support it.
Is there any good laptop battery store you can recommend?
I need to buy a new battery for my Asus
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Is there any good laptop battery store you can recommend?
I need to buy a new battery for my Asus
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I used stupid Walmart. A CCP made one but its holding up ok so far. No OEM power indicator like the Dell original though.
Meh... the price was right
Note: watch the lead time when using Walmart. With some vendors it's close to a month!!!
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Any suggestions for a Laptop Battery Limiter?
I like to keep my HP laptop plugged in but I want it to stop charging to protect the battery.
There are a few options out there, but I don't see much for reviews.
Battery Limiter
Save battery
3 Best Laptop Battery Management Software to Limit Charging
If you need reliable laptop battery management software to stop battery charging and improve its longevity, we suggest checking out our top.
windowsreport.com
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...g-limit/237862c0-ddfc-4f21-8dcc-2117fc555fe2[
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sd_shadow said:
Any suggestions for a Laptop Battery Limiter?
I like to keep my HP laptop plugged in but I want it to stop charging to protect the battery.
There are a few options out there, but I don't see much for reviews.
Battery Limiter
Save battery
3 Best Laptop Battery Management Software to Limit Charging
If you need reliable laptop battery management software to stop battery charging and improve its longevity, we suggest checking out our top.
windowsreport.com
Laptop Battery charging limit
How do I turn on or activate the 80% battery charging limit?
answers.microsoft.com
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I'm in the same predicament with my HP Win 10 laptop. Any chance you ended up with one of the above choices or something else? If so which one and do you recommend it?
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I'm in the same predicament with my HP Win 10 laptop. Any chance you ended up with one of the above choices or something else? If so which one and do you recommend it?
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I never tried any of them, but I'm still interested.
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I never tried any of them, but I'm still interested.
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You can physically pull the battery but if you loss AC power that's an issue.
Maybe a hardware solution with a switch (and a bypass diode, may work) the be the easiest do it yourself work around.
Rather annoying...
I am also interested in this question! I've always turned my computer off at night and shut it down if I take a break, but some sites say that the computer loses even more power when it starts up again.
I've been doing a bit of reading the last few days and from what I gather- if it's not built into the system then it's not worth it. Newer and modern laptops rarely and never overcharge and go over the max limit. Manually plugging and unplugging actually takes away from the laptop's charge and discharge lifespan so unless it has a really beefy battery it's not worth it. It's also a good idea to not let it really go down below 20-25% too frequently. I've set mine at 20% from the win 10 power saving feature. You should also check your manufacturer's battery optimizing and calibration suggestions as well. Mine for example suggests calibrating their frequently used laptops once every 3 months and their lesser used ones about once a month..
Battery Optimizer will scan your laptop and determine ways to extend the life of your laptop battery. Battery Optimizer will then offer steps to take, as well as anticipated time savings and other battery management features.
This amazing software can help you extend the life of your battery by performing extensive diagnostics and providing simple recommendations and adjustments. You may configure it to monitor your battery usage over time and notify you when it exceeds a specified threshold.
With intelligent profiles for quick settings adjustments, optimizing your battery life is quick and straightforward.
This battery optimizer uses few resources and has no effect on the performance of your computer. Battery Optimizer really tells you how much extra battery life you may save by turning down key hardware and services on your laptop.
In addition, you can make use of features like battery usage alerts when you overuse the battery capacity. So you can set up a battery optimizer to see usage over time.
Hence with the most advanced technology to optimize battery life, this software covers any laptop battery difficulties over time.
This May Work,
Peter
My Acer Aspire 5 A515 is always plugged into AC power. Two distinct disadvantages of Acer, compared to Lenovo: Acer doesn't seem to offer charge-limiting software, and the batteries are usually not removable. So the Acer's battery died in about two years. Meanwhile, the battery on my Lenovo ThinkPad E430 still works after ten years.
Most newwer laptop batteries are designed to be smart, once a battery is 100%, the charger port will rout the incoming power directly to the power supply of the laptop bypassing the battery. Analogous to using a laptop without a battery while connected to power source. Do not drain your battery. It does more harm. Anyways whatever you do , the average difference in life of similar batteries would be a max of 8 – 10 months depending on usage. An important point. Battery life is reduced drastically if it overheats , that is the major culprit. Use an external cooler pad while working.
In Windows 11, there is no such option that lets you set a charging limit to start and stop charging your laptop battery. If you want to change charging settings and set a charging limit for your laptop battery, you have to change the required settings in your system BIOS. or install the dedicated app developed by your laptop manufacturer.
You may also look inside here:
Free Battery Limiter software for Windows 11/10 PC
A Battery Limiter or Laptop Charging Control software reminds you to remove the charger to protect your devices from overcharging. Here is a list of Battery Limiters for Windows 11/10 PC.
www.thewindowsclub.com
AFAIK TLP is to be used only on Sony and Lenovo and LG and Huawei and ASUS laptops
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I just went on a trip and about 2 or so hours into the trip my cell phone went dead even though it was plugged in. I was using my GPS. I recharged my phone and tried again and I could see the battery was draining even though it was plugged in.
Is there a fix for this problem? I'm was using Sprint ROM, but switched to Might Mikes, but still have the same problem.
what ends up happening with the pda devices is that it looks to the battery for energy only. even if it's plugged in if you drain the battery faster than it can charge then it will go dead. i don't know if there is even a different rom that can cercumvent that, but that would be the only way to fix it.
...or if you could find a gps program that uses less energy. that should work too.
I tried again using the GPS, but this time I had a DC to AC converter and plugged in my phone. Although I didn't run the GPS that long, maybe a half hour or so, the phone battery didn't loose any noticeable charge. It was fully charged when I stopped the GPS.
I'm also looking to replace my battery with a higher capacity battery. Can anyone make a recommendation? I don't want a larger battery as far as size, but one that has more capacity. Let me know if there is a battery on the market that will meet my requirements.
Touch Pro has a safety feature to stop charging when the temperature sensor goes past a certain point. It is much more likely to reach that point when you are running GPS and in car with the sun beating down.
Workaround for that is to turn on the AC.
I had the same issue this May when driving through GA while on vacation.
The phone does stop the charging process when it feels it is too hot but will continue to operate thus discharging the battery quickly but never letting you get a charge in.
My solution was to buy a mount for the phone that clipped onto the AC vent and let cool air run on it the entire time and that solved the problem.
Hope that helps.
Yes, anytime I run the GPS the phone does get warm. However, I do have a vent mount holder for the phone with AC blowing right on the back of it. That doesn't resolve my problem.
I'm interested in a very high capacity battery if anyone can personally recommend one.
Have only had my sprint pro for 2 weeks and concur the battery life is bad. I find heating problems during lots of tasks and sometimes doing seemingly nothing(in sleep mode). I found that my gps was draining the battery even when not in use. I installed a cab to toggle it and that has helped alot. My data is set to go off automatically after a short time also. I'm trying every tweak I can think of and googling for more.
The oem batt was 1340mAh, My old gsm pro had an extended 1500mAh which I tried , with little improvement. I'm currently running a 2000mAh extended with the enlarged door and this helps but lots of juice is still draining away. On a positive note, the warmness seems to be mostly gone. My goal is to be able to go a full day with moderate usage. Today may be the day. I think I saw a 3000mAh as well, maybe at seidio. I was going to return the pro and get another one, but it sounds like they are all the same issue. An awesome phone, a real shame this is a problem. I think data off and gps off will help me alot. My $.02
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Give this a try.
I installed the program and I see the GPStoggle.dll under windows, but I don't see anyway to run the program? How do I enable and disable it?
I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
Makzer.
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please reply to my problem dear friends ..
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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on JaBKerneL @ 1.15ghz
Hi fellow l9'ers
I purchased an OEM battery to have as a spare battery since I'm usually out of battery when I most need it but forget to bring it or charge it. After having so-so experiences with aftermarket extended batteries on other phones I decided that if I wanted good results on the cheap I need to make it myself. Still testing it out but initial impressions are good.
BTW.. yes it looks horrendous and I do know that it could blow up, ruin my phone, cause cancer and start WW3.... but thanks for your concern.
Source of inspiration. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800177&highlight=battery+mod
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.
How does the battery stay in place? double side tape?
Also, what is the battery life on this uhmmmm... phone?
How is it?
I am very interested in trying this if your results are good...How has your battery life been affected? Has it doubled? Do you use a case that works with the new "power bulge"?
I did that to my old i897 captivate. you only need the positive and negative connected. you're connecting the two circuit boards together which may cause problems. i would remove that one. Unless you can find a battery charger that supplies more amperage you most likely will never get that battery fully charged no matter what the android meter says.
Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Ok, after a few days of heavy usage I have come across sporadic performance results. In a few occasions it would out last the original battery under the same usage and other times it would perform as a stock battery. I plan on purchasing an external charger since I suspect that both batteries are not fully being charged as the previous post mentions. I will also disassemble the second battery and take the circuit out of the equation. So far I am pleased with it's performance even though it's not consistent.
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Cool. i work in batteries so i didnt check out dudes guide other than his soldering was good lol. essentially all you're doing is connecting the batteries in parallel. since both batteries have a circuit board that controls low voltage and temperature safety, you only need to use one as the battery will still be a 3.6v cell just double the capacity. stock LG charger shipped w/ L9 outputs .85 amps so if you could find one that did 1.5amps or 1500mah you'd be in good shape.
Like @Meda808 said,you only need to connect two pins... + and -.You will also need stronger charger but... There is a circuit in a phone which controls power to battery(I think that that's why is one of the two middle contacts on battery) so... Maybe with external charger?
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Well, good feature, but on the other hand smartphone becomes fat, and if I look on way I use my phone, I won't do DIY like this.
That looks interesting, but I wouldn't be able to get over the hump.
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Small update......
So far so good, no major issues. I purchased the anker standalone charger and it charges the battery but it takes way to long(10-15hrs) So I just charge it in the phone now. The battery lasts me a full day under heavy heavy usage. Prior to this by 2-3pm it was out of juice.
I have noticed that it has become less sporadic the more I use it.
Iheartradio 4-6hrs a day, dish anywhere 2-3hrs a day, calls:30-1hr. This is with WiF(thanks Home Depot), data and Bluetooth(LG Tone)on for most of the day.../.. I'm happy I did it.
I unplug at 4:45am and plug it in by 8-9pm with about 20-30% left.
I have not modified the connection yet so I suspect that it still might not be fully charged even with the aftermarket charger.
About the hump..... I got use to it quiker than I thought.
hahaha ill give ya props for ingenuity
9/4/13 Update.... after using it on a daily basis and swiping back and forth between the oem battery and my jerry-rigged battery I can say its definitely working. The performance has gotten constant and I did a battery drain comparison between the 2 using the app called FAST DISCHARGE. All option selected and cpu set to full load with temp set to unlimited. I did remove two of the jumpers and only left positive and negative connected.
OEM BATTERY........... 2hr 5min 13 sec
JERRY-RIGGED BATT..........3hr 35min 21sec
I suspect that it doesn't last double since both circuits are being powered when charged...... the first battery to be fully charged send a signal to the charger to shut off hence the lack of full power.
Over all for $10 bucks I'm not complaining.
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
marcinb24 said:
I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
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Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
DBZLegend9000 said:
Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
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Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
PIntus_aleborn said:
Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
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Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
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To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
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Thanks for your help! I did try out Accubattery and yes it detects when the battery is at 80%. Just wish it could set limits with root access as well.
In any case, I seem to have found a solution now. There's a Magisk module called Advanced Charging Control (ACC). This seems to work well and limits charging to 80%. It also has a companion app that you can use to set your own preferences and limits.
I've linked the relevant thread below, might be useful to others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427/amp/
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Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
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Your doing more worse then good letting the phone go to 5%. That app will not do ANYTHING for you.
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I find ACC works well at stopping the chargeing at a certain % level.
Hoiwever then while still connected to usb it draws power from the battery - not good.
Battery charge Limit on Oreo stoped charging and used then power from usbb onwards while still connected.
I wonder how ACC stops the charging on Pie, i.e. with what control file. Has anyone got an idea?
I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
One quirk that I've noticed is that, on wireless, the app ignores the "Recharge below" setting and starts recharging as soon as the percentage drops just 1% below the max (ex. if the max is 80% and the charge drops to 79%, it'll immediately recharge back to 80%, even if "Recharge below" is set at 76%).
For the record, the ROM that I'm using is LineageOS 17.1, so the app definitely still works on Android 10.
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I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
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Were you able to figure out how to use only power from the charger instead of the battery, @bladecgn?
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Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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I don't know. You'll just have to try. It's a process of trial and error to find which path works with which ROMs.
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
EDIT: You need to be rooted to do this, and you need to reapply the settings after reboot.
I have a Tasker action that does this automatically 5 minutes after rebooting.
If only there was a way to use that without root :-S
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
I use the adaptive charging overnight and think that will help with battery life.
vandyman said:
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
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If you do some reading you will see that charging over 80% and draining under 20% will significantly shorten the lifespan of your battery. This is important for those of us that have devices not sold in our country so getting replacement batteries would be very difficult and expensive. I have phones that are more than 9 years old and still going fine if charged like this.
Galaxea said:
If you do some reading you will see that charging over 80% and draining under 20% will significantly shorten the lifespan of your battery. This is important for those of us that have devices not sold in our country so getting replacement batteries would be very difficult and expensive. I have phones that are more than 9 years old and still going fine if charged like this.
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If you would have read the correct information on this subject. You would know that this not true for today's battery technology.
This is nothing but a myth.
You will have a better chance looking for Bigfoot.
Why waste 40% of your battery use....
vandyman said:
If you would have read the correct information on this subject. You would know that this not true for today's battery technology.
This is nothing but a myth.
You will have a better chance looking for Bigfoot.
Why waste 40% of your battery use....
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On the contrary. The most recent phones attempt to limit the time that they spend at 100% exactly because it's so bad for battery longevity. Having options like the OP's approach just gives users more flexibility, should they want more control than, in this case, Google's adaptive/AI approach.
And it's not 'wasting' 40% of the battery. Keeping between 80% and 20% just optimizes battery service life during those days you only actually only need 60% of it's possible capacity. When working from home that's often the case for me. I actually tend to use ~30% of the battery in a day. Better to charge it up daily to about 70% than all the way to 100% and let it go down to 10% over 3 days. If it's easy to do, why not?
Not quite the same, but EV design also has their batteries normally operating in the middle range so as not to compromise their service life...
Definitely not myth. The only myth is that lithium cells exhibit a memory effect and need to be deep discharged and fully recharged periodically to maintain their capacity. It's actually bad for them to do this! The only reason to do this would be in an attempt to recalibrate the software for the battery level gauge (at the cost of a little damage to the battery each time you do that).
vandyman said:
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
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Most folk don't notice reduction in battery capacity until it becomes severe. For example, a friend claimed it wasn't a problem charging his iPhone to 100% ritually. When he checked the OS, it said his battery capacity was 80% of what it was when new. He said he hadn't noticed it affect how long the phone lasted.
If your usage is such that you can predict how much capacity you need, you can choose to charge to 100% only those times you will actually need that capacity. Other times you can look after the battery so it's able to actually give near on 100% for longer, those times it's important to you.
Others who keep their phones a short time or are comfortable with the cost & inconvenience of a battery replacement, or simply don't care, don't have to worry....
WibblyW said:
On the contrary. The most recent phones attempt to limit the time that they spend at 100% exactly because it's so bad for battery longevity. Having options like the OP's approach just gives users more flexibility, should they want more control than, in this case, Google's adaptive/AI approach.
And it's not 'wasting' 40% of the battery. Keeping between 80% and 20% just optimizes battery service life during those days you only actually only need 60% of it's possible capacity. When working from home that's often the case for me. I actually tend to use ~30% of the battery in a day. Better to charge it up daily to about 70% than all the way to 100% and let it go down to 10% over 3 days. If it's easy to do, why not?
Not quite the same, but EV design also has their batteries normally operating in the middle range so as not to compromise their service life...
Definitely not myth. The only myth is that lithium cells exhibit a memory effect and need to be deep discharged and fully recharged periodically to maintain their capacity. It's actually bad for them to do this! The only reason to do this would be in an attempt to recalibrate the software for the battery level gauge (at the cost of a little damage to the battery each time you do that).
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This all maybe good if you are planning on keeping your device for a few years.
Most people buy a new device every other year. If not once a year.
... and if you really want to knacker the battery, heat it up too!
Worst case scenario - using a sat nav app on your phone in the car on a hot day with the phone plugged into a car adaptor. It's going to be sitting there at elevated temperatures, possibly with the sun shining on it, whilst being kept at 100% battery....
I'm only a customer (and have no other affiliation) and like to tinker, so I got one of these for use in the car to limit temperature when charging and limit max charge. Not cheap, but ok compared with the cost of the phone https://chargie.org/
I'm sorry, but at the snails pace this phone charges I'd be very surprised if charging it to 100% every night will make any noticeable difference in the long run. I had a Xiaomi Mi10 Ultra with 120W fast charger. That phone used to charge from 0% to full in like 20 minutes. Now that's one way to quickly kill your battery.
The Pixel uses your alarm to adaptively charge the battery so it should never overcharge it anyway. I'd much rather us all of my battery than use it only between 20 and 80% just for it to last a little longer.
The files are overwritten on reboot so I created a Tasker task to write the values on reboot each time.
Biggenz said:
I'm sorry, but at the snails pace this phone charges I'd be very surprised if charging it to 100% every night will make any noticeable difference in the long run.
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On what basis? All the research and tests are based on charge level not charge rate. Fast charging potentially just makes it worse...
But at the end of the day it's your phone. You'll charge it in whatever way works for you.
I feel like this post sort of misses the point. It clearly is aimed at those intending to keep their phones >1yr, it is stated explicitly.
I'm not rooted right now, so I've been using the AccuBattery app. One of the things it does it gives a notification every few minutes when the battery is at 80% or above so that you can physically unplug the phone from the charger. Obviously having this done automatically would be better, but I've been surprised at how well the notifications have worked in my case. Plus, I can always leave the phone plugged in if I know I need a full battery for some reason (ie a long day away from any charging source).
Galaxea said:
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
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Dumb question but what did you use to write values into those files? Did you use a text editor (with root access) or just termux or something? I tried with the built in MiX text editor but it seems to choke once I open up the file.
Gibsonflyingv said:
Dumb question but what did you use to write values into those files? Did you use a text editor (with root access) or just termux or something? I tried with the built in MiX text editor but it seems to choke once I open up the file.
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I used FX File Explorer (root option). Look for the #. SYSTEM (Root).
I was wondering if changing the file permissions after writing to them to read-only would make the changes stick, but I am sure the OS could still overwrite them...??
I wonder if there's a similar variable to tweak at what temperature the phone considers the battery is too hot and stops charging?
Galaxea said:
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
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Did a bit of testing and it works fine. A few things I noticed:
1. Doesn't survive reboot. Now that I've set up MiX with pinned folders, I can make the change in seconds. Need to sit down and read through the acc documentation because AccA doesn't work. Would love to have an automatic solution. Miss my old Battery Charge Limit.
2. charge_start doesn't seem to matter. After all, if charge_start is set to 75 and the phone is at 70%, it shouldn't charge. But it does. I've kept mine at 0.
3. Point #2 is kinda beside the point, though, because charge_stop will stop at the set value and stay there. No noticeable increase in temperature from what I can see. Definitely less than when charging.
4. Still shows as charging rapidly when it hits the level. Is it rapidly cycling charging on and off? Or in a kind of micro-current state? Or this may be a true battery idle situation where all power is drawn from the adapter. Ampere and AccA just show "not charging".
Edit: With a bit of use today, it does seem to act like a normal min/max charge deal, so I set it at 75 start/76 stop. Not sure what was happening at first...maybe something to do with the adaptive charging since I still have that on. Either, way, no complaints. With my use case working from home, I have it plugged in most of the day and it'll only take me about a minute to change charge_stop to 100 when I'm planning to go out all day somewhere away from chargers. Not ideal, but still a big improvement. Changes my rating of the thing from maybe 3.5 stars to 4.5.