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when i want to copy video files over to my xda i do so using active sync and wen i go to open it the file comes up as a file that cant b read by any program, what do i have to do in order for it to play video?
Hi,
which player do you use? Video Files (.mpg or .mpeg) are best played by Pocket TV, available at www.pocketTV.com, .avi files by wmp
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Ron
thanks for replying i try .mpeg video and have windows media that came with it, i have seen pocket tv advertised if i were to get it wot one would i use?
I have been toying around with this video-watching for some time now and in the end the problem is always the size of the files. It is simply impossible to fit a whole movie in mpeg or divx on a storage-card, even if you ha a 512MB one. So what i´ve been doing lately is to convert movies into wmv format with the windows media encoder, which is free downloadable on the microsoft website. You can set the framerate down to 15 fps and the streaming rate to 150 kbps and the movie will still run relatively smooth. And the resolution must of course be set to 320X240. With that you will have files with a size of about 1 MB/minute of film. Of course it takes some time to convert the file, but with 2.8MHz not longer then a little over half an hour per movie.
i can get a 320x240 2 hour film in divx format into 185mb :|
running at 30fps at 250kbs
so i dont see what everyones probs with vids are? :shock:
@ gazzaman
what program do u use to edit doen the videosize to 320 x 240 ?
virtual Dub
www.dvdhelp.com
also guides how to do it can be found here:
http://www.pocketmatrix.com/guides/compression/
follow the convert to divx one
gaz
gazzaman,
what's the quality like when playing videos?
I assume you've got an xda I?
Thanks.
good higly watchable just as good as the normal source video just only dithering on though as te screen is only 4096colours.
i havent got my xda no more waiting for expansys to release the MDA 2
gaz
does any one know if i store mp3 files or movies on an sd card and put it in my XDA can i play them on the XDA?
sureyou can play mp3's and wmv's (video) on xda's media player. other audio and video formats can be played but may need extra sod=ftware. you can tranfer file thru actisync to the can (slow) or invest in a USB to SD card adapter 20 quid ish and drag files over quicker.
how about this forum sharing video files in xda format?? (as in wmv)
is wmv the best format... if not what is best quality but still low file size???
I've put the office and alan partridge on mine.........
I use the free download from www.pockettv.com it is brilliant for mpeg files there are links there also for free download of short films/animations etc, try killer bean 2, it is brilliant
and here is, how to convert movies for the the MDA / XDA:
http://www.mathiaspohl.de/mda
There a 2 tabs: One is about Divx, the 2nd is about wmv files. regards, Koponet
I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
Video Playback
I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Hey guys,I've been reading a lot about how well the GS2 plays movies/videos,but I haven't found an answer to this.Can it play files larger than 2gigs?My Desire HD plays 720p mp4's flawlessly(almost) unless the file size is more than 2 gigs.In that case it won't even open thw file.
Any answer appreciated as 9/10 of the movies I have are high quality 720p and 1080p matroska files to play on my PS3,not some 700kbps ****-quality 500megs file.
Thanks!
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It can play anything up to 4GB, but the file system wont allow you to transfer a file larger than 4GB. If you have some 8GB mkv files you will need to split them somehow.
It's not the file size that's important, although FAT32 has a limit of 4gb for a single file you can split a file up. It's the bitrate that's important, and so far the Galaxy s2 has played everything I've thrown at it, including very high bitrate 1080p files. It's perfect for video playback.
You can use MKV toolnix to split MKV files. It'll only take a few minutes since all it does is demux, split and remux the file. Since you're using MKV files i'm assuming you're tech savvy enough to navigate the GUI. It's pretty simple.
I won't quote because my multi-quote doesn't feel like working the last few days.
So,thank you all guys for your answers.
@jgittins
I know there is the fat32 limitation,wouldn't be around if I didn't! Splitting the videos is easy,reencoding is a pain in the ass(3-7 hours on my PC ).
@RXP
Bitrate,withing some sane limits at least,wasn't a problem for the DHD either.I encode a high profile 720p video clip from Avenged Sevenfold(I'm a big fan ) which lasts some 4 minutes and it plays heavenly.I use exactly the same settings for a movie(That turns out about 3.5 gigs) and it won't play.I use lower quality(not only bitrate) so that it turns out to be just less than 2 gigs(by chance at that time) and it plays really good.I then,out of curiosity,split the 3.5 gigs file to two equal sized files and it plays super smooth too!So the problem is a 2 gig limit on the DHD.As long as there is no such thing on SGS2 I'm extra fine,as the DHD will need reencoding nontheless,it can't play mkv's.
@Sticks02
Geek is my middle name pal!
Thanks,I'll try that and see how it goes.Even if I can't use it at first I'll eventually do it(I learn really easily ).
Ok, firstly, i used the search, found this thread, didnt help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427587
I know the prime can read pretty much any video file given the right player, thats not my question.
My problem is most of my bluerays have been converted to digital, in some cases the files are over 10 gigs. Now i CAN play those files on my prime however i can only fit a couple on my sd card before i run out of space.
What im looking for is settings to optimize conversion for best quality the prime can show while reducing the file size to the smallest possible.
For instance, a 1080P video will play at a max resolution of 1280 x 800. Audio can be stripped to stereo instead of 5.1 surround since the prime wont output much better anyways.
Most of my files are MKV format.
WinFF is my software of choice, its worked well for me in the past but there were specific config files for it. Unfortunately i dont know enough about video encoding to know which settings to use for the prime.
Anyone have experience with WinFF? Have other software you use that works better? If anyone has suggestions im open to them. Thanks!
If I remember right, AVS vide converter has that option but it's not free. I'm sure there are free alternatives but I can't name any
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edited first post. WinFF is my software of choice but im not sure what settings to use other than 1050x800 for the resolution. What bit rates should i use, what presets? any ideas?
I wouldn't use x800.
Down-convert to 720p and stick to the Scene rules (attached) and you'll be good.
Edit: looks like the .png attach gets resized to useless. Grab the .c file and rename to .png.
I stick to CD size 700Mb downloads and they seem to work fine whatever the resolution.
I use handbrake (free) to convert my movies. If the movie is 1080p scale it down to 720p. i use the profile from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
movies end up being like 2 gb tops and play great. they will even stream with the average wifi signal on the prime.
I do my conversions with RipBot264.
For the Prime, I convert:
Video down to 720p mkv with quality set to High-Profile CQ19 or CQ20. No sense in 1080p unless I'm watching on 40"+ big screen that can show the extra resolution.
I set audio to DD/DTS "5.1 core only" because I use the same files with my laptop (Lenovo X220) which can output 5.1 via HDMI or optical equipped USB sound card ($25 SIIG soundwave in my case). I can understand why some would go down to stereo, but audio data is small compared to video data.., so there's not that much of a size penalty for keeping 5.1 audio since I might actually use it.
Main reason I use RipBot is to deal with movies that have forced subtitles. I can identify the forced subtitle track and have it build/render the subtitles into the video frames. This is so I don't have to deal with whether my device/player supports subtitles correctly. Watching something like District 9 (heavily subtitled) would be a disaster, otherwise.
Size wise, I usually see around an 80-85% reduction in size vs the original source m2ts file.
But this is what I love about the TF201. If I'm in a rush to make a flight, I don't have to convert. It will play the same 1080p CQ18 mkv I use on my XBMC / NAS setup. Heck, it'll even play the raw Bluray m2ts file straight off the disc. Love my TF201.
Ya, as stated in OP PLAYING the videos is never a problem, its just storing more than a couple of those extra high res videos takes a toll on my onboard memory
Thanks for the tips all around, will definately give them a go.
Just use ttorrent. Problem solved.
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dnar56 said:
Just use ttorrent. Problem solved.
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Not quite. Not all movies make it to a torrent. Hand brake as was previously posted is what I've been using for a while and it works great. SUPER works and has presets for quite a few screen types and sound codecs.
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Not quite. Not all movies make it to a torrent. Hand brake as was previously posted is what I've been using for a while and it works great. SUPER works and has presets for quite a few screen types and sound codecs.
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what presets are you using? how do the movies turn out? what file size would an average length movie turn out to?