how to turn GPRS off? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

hey...
i was just wondering, is there a way to turn GPRS off?
it is really expensive and i dont wish to use it...
thanks
jay

Dear,
As in its commercialization of ppc 2003 that says "always on GPRS", we cannot easily turn it off anywhere in the GSM signal sign. The only way I've known so far is to softreset your device. There might be some other means to turn it off. Anyway, I guess it has to do with the registry setting (I'm not sure)
REgards,

well....i currently have ppc 2002
and all i want to do is disconnect it permently...
i just saw my bill and i was using Gprs when i thought i was using wap....and i get wap free.......so u get the idea :?
so i wanna know how i cannot use gprs at all, beacuse i get them confussed
thanks
jay

Disconnect GPRS
Maybe try SPB GPRS Monitor. It has a connect/disconnect feature.

so i have to download a whole piece of software to turn gprs off....
thats a bit silly
jay

In order to end a GPRS section on PPC2003 simply press the call end key and wait till it beeps. If you press the end key again it will turn the phone off.
Richard

Richjn said:
In order to end a GPRS section on PPC2003 simply press the call end key and wait till it beeps. If you press the end key again it will turn the phone off.
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Thank you. Brilliant. Just tested. Works. Case closed....

I disagree...
as mentioned in this post:
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1822
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1970
The problem is bigger then just that. Personaly also mentioned it beore in this forum on the WM2003 bug list that clicking the OFF "RED" button for a while it will d/c the GPRS session is true but what you dont notice is that when the beep sound goes on call your self from another phone and you will notice that your phone for at 30sec will be "OFF" while your device shows full signal bars.
I tried that 6 times to be sure and everytime the same result: GPRS d/c - Signal full - but my phone is OFF for 30sec or so.
I should also stress that in the above posting you will find important information about GPRS "Always ON" which is important.
After ailing in any normal alternative i was forced to use Sbp GPRS monitor which is doing a great job for me.

so how can you tell when GPRS is fully off....
knowing me i will still end up on it, although i dont want too.
thanks
jay

First, let me say I do think it's odd that there is no software route to d/c data session, however I do find it very strange that people are posting in kind of an opposite way of the solution? A little history, in the defense of the GPRS Standards Community (just do a google search for EDGE or GPRS standards and you will find their website with detailed explanations of what their technology is and their vision for data on Mobile Terminals as they hope it will be implemented) the XDA "Bug" was that it could not do what every other GPRS enabled device on the market could do at the time and that is, keep a deticated data connection and meet the definition of what GPRS as a service was. Meaning the super XDA was inferior to the simplest cell phone with GPRS (ok that's a stretch we're simply talking phone & browser functions, and yes PIE is way advanced even in it's first inception to any phone browser out there but what people were ashamed about is that the phone never did effectively what its main draw was as a combo device) basically the "Bug was it was advertised as a class B device and never was (for class B device standards do a google search for GSM Mobile Terminal class standards, class A is what we are shooting for).
I think since GPRS is expensive (for now) people who bought this device never really saw or actualized what the real gem of GPRS was other than just a faster "Dial-Up" connection which it was never intended to be viewed or treated as a Dial-Up type connection. This behavior was by Microsoft’s/HTC or both(s) design and failure on their part(s) to have this device meet the standards that every other GPRS device at market did.
Keep in mind I am not saying what should or should not make us happy as an end user, it is simply an issue of end user preference and not a Bug (the software GPRS off option missing is a big inconvenience for people who want to keep a tight grip on their data usage).
To say "GPRS-Always-On" is a bug is like telling the inventor he invented it wrong because he did not invent it the way I like it.
Keep in mind I am not arguing the missing software/hardware "option" to disconnect if you wish, but to help everyone understand what GPRS is, has been, and hopes to continue to be, and that what some are complaining about is merely a personal preference, or missing option and not a bug.
What ever an implementer of a technology charges for something should not dictate whether or not the technology behaves in the way it was intended too.
That would be like saying if gas prices were too high that manufactures of gas burning engines have a major bug on their hands until gas stations start charging less for gas.
Then it will then be a welcome solution/prior bug?
As a consumer, you have choices. Buy an electric car if you don’t want to pay the gas prices and hope enough people hold your same view and inspire the gas stations to lower their prices to get more customers, boycott the gas burning car industry and ride a bicycle around (don’t subscribe to GPRS service on your account).
But don’t say just because you want to drive around in a fast sports car (GPRS-12 cylinder verses CSD-4 cylinder) and cant afford it (or feel it's over priced), that the makers of cars that burn more gas to go fast (as intended), are in-fact not performing as they were intended to because gas prices are to high.
We all like to go fast, and get the "nice car :wink: " nod's, but
Until it becomes more cost effective to drive a high-end sports car :shock: 8) most of us will have to be patient and opt for the 4 cylinder rather than 6.
A chassis with four wheels and an engine is a car; one that goes 0-60 in under 5 is a "luxury" not a necessity. Personal Necessity always dictates how much someone is willing to spend. So the question (addressed to everyone waning over this issue),....is it truly a necessity to you right now (in which case law of supply and demand, you pay to have it now) or can you wait until the prices come down (in which case too expensive right now maybe I would just like to have a fast service that keeps me connected to the digital world 24/7. I'll use the slower for now), but laying in wait for the best of both worlds will always leave you wanting
Oh I forgot one last option if you are independently wealthy, particularly ambitious, and feel PDA makers have their head up their :shock:
You can design, manufacture, and market your own device doing what you feel people want it to do and put it into competition against the current devices 8) or the poor mans/safe business approach "reference design" :idea: give the industry what not! Tell them how to do it, let them know this IS NOT what the consumers want their device to do :!: and make a stand baby 8)

Unfotunately it has nothing to do with the device.
The networks demand that GPRS capable devices GPRS attach when they power on. In the next relesae of the GSM standards there will be a bit (two actually) that define whether the device should auto GPRS attach and/or auto activsate a GPRS connection.
Then the operator can decide what to do. It will never be a consumer's choice.

i'm no expert but wouldn't you just be able to delete the gprs connection setting out of connections to keep from using it again? with no settings it shouldn't be able to connect, right?

Yes & No.
First let's make a few distinctions. The device only see's & attaches to the GPRS node, this is not an active data session it's like standby. PPCPE2002 did this the little "G" if you had a T-Mo branded this still happened you just don't see the icon. So nothing that hasn't already been talking place.
In most cases if you don't subscribe to GPRS this is not even a concern as your device/Mobile Terminal will not even look for it.
If a "data" connection is made (Service provider device flash account info or user provided account info) you will incure data traffic costs. This is why some people are concerned about not being able to disconnect a data session when they want.
This is only a temporary concern as providers will all eventually at minimum match "unlimited data" competitors prices to keep current customers from jumping ship in mass numbers to another data provider. They will even the playing field figuring customers will not move if they can get the same price at home. Statistics show they wont so this is in your favor. Even more in your favor if they compete instead of evening, this drives prices down

hello everyone.....I'm a bit off the topic of GPRS but more into GSM monitoring. Can anyone tell me how I can track a GSM modem?

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Cheap GPRS

I've been happily using my XDA for almost a year now, the only complaint being the amount i spend on the GPRS though O2.
What are the other UK networks charging these days? I've heard about others charging as little as £10 for 100MB's, is this true?
I'm about to come to the end of my contract and will be getting an XDA II as soon as it does but i may well get it sim-free and go with another network.
Do i have other options i.e. sticking in a pay-as-you-go sim from another network when i want to use it heavily?
Thanks for your help.
i think the problem may be when you dont say where you are from
the only company's which people can be sure are represented most places are fodaphone, tmobile, o2 and orange and maybe a few others
and those are rearely the cheap ones
oop's sorry. I'm in the UK
t-mobile in usa - $19 a month - unlimited gprs
(not that that would help you 2000+ miles away)
-Mario
mario,
how do you find the gprs speed thru tmobile?
they say its 40k-80k
but i dont think thats true... it takes me too long to download a small 500k file. unless im doin something wrong!
do u have special settings?
to find the actual speed, i have no idea
the only settings i have, is for the gprs setting, it connects to internet2.voicestream.com
speed is up and down usually, right near a atenna (like near a mall or what not) perfect speed.
at work is another question... with 1 bar of signal i can stream 22k mp3s from di.fm (requires ipv6 which tmobile or ie for pocket pc comes with, cause it works)
work is a office full of computers, in a big brick building... signal is allways bad indoors.
-Mario

AT&T Tethering Crackdown - Have you been served?

Well - it was only a matter of time before AT&T stepped in. BGR reports that AT&T is cracking down on people tethering without the appropriate data plan.
This leads me to two questions:
(1) How do you suppose they know who is doing this? (Excessive use? Looking at data flows? etc.)
and
(2) For those who are using tethering without plan, what method do you use and does it make a difference?
(A) Adding APN (via aRoot script or other method).
(B) Modifying existing APNs (via richhed's method).
(C) Using App like Barnacle or Wifi-Tether.
Lets discuss!
Ed
Use C, they can't prove you're doing it. Modifying your APN is an idiotic method to use.
i dont go over 2-3gb much
but i want to know i have it when i needed it
this is totally crap
That report is coming off of the iPhone. It's likely something they've done in iOS 4.3 that checks for something specific. Using the APN method is risky since it's easy for at&t to spot.
I've been tethering my Captivate since August and nothing yet....although I am a light user.
As soon as AT&T warns me that I'm using too much data, I'm going to warn them that their ****ty network and lies about 4G violate MY terms of service.
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As soon as AT&T warns me that I'm using too much data, I'm going to warn them that their ****ty network and lies about 4G violate MY terms of service.
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you tell 'em!
n7slc said:
That report is coming off of the iPhone. It's likely something they've done in iOS 4.3 that checks for something specific. Using the APN method is risky since it's easy for at&t to spot.
I've been tethering my Captivate since August and nothing yet....although I am a light user.
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" It is safe to assume that a large portion of the unofficial, tethering populous is jailbroken iPhone users and rooted Android users."
Glad i have unlimited data plan and no need for tethering
tomlee337 said:
Read on engadget today that AT&T is cracking down on people using tethering without a tethering plan. So far only people that have an Iphone are getting cracked down. I use the APN method. Will this be safe because I dont want to lose my unlimited data plan and get knocked down to 4gb + tether because thats what they are doing.
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i dont believe any android users have gotten the email/text YET. But you wont lose your unlimited data until after you receive the first warning email/text
There was an informative comment in the engadget comments:
For all you wondering how they can tell:
All IP packets have something called a TTL associated with them. It stands for Time To Live. Every "hop" along the network from one router to the next reduces the TTL by one. When it reaches 0, the packet is dropped. This was introduced to keep routing problems from overloading the network. If for example, by some error a packet was going around in a circular path, the TTL would eventually reach 0 and prevent a packet storm.
The thing is, ALL routing devices do this. OSes use standard TTLs. For example, let's say both your iPhone and laptop use 127 for the TTL. AT&T will receive packets from your iPhone with a TTL of 127, but since the packets from your laptop pass through your iPhone first, they arrive at AT&T with a TTL of 126. They can detect a tethered device this way.
Apple uses a TTL of 64 for the iPhone, by the way. So change the TTL on your computer to "65" and there should be no problem. Here's how to do it:
1. Click Start - Search and type “regedit”. This launches the WIndows Registry.
2. In the registry, navigate to the following registry key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters] HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
\SYSTEM
\CurrentControlSet
\Services
\Tcpip
\Parameters
3. In the right pane, right-click and select New – DWORD (32-bit value) and set its name as “DefaultTTL” and set its value anything between “0? and “255?. The value sets the number of Hops or links the packet traverses before being discarded.
REPORT
+ 81
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and..
TTL is a good start. However, deeper packet inspection would reveal HTTP requests from sources other than "approved software packages" (i.e. the http request would show a browser name like chrome). Protocols other then HTTP would be equally revealing.
Deep packet inspection is expensive; so they probably look for people whom consume a generous amount of monthly bandwidth and sniff their traffic.
The only way to protect yourself would be to encrypt your packet payload, until it reached a non-AT&T intermediate node. And of course, eventually that type of behavior would be a red flag. However, they would not be able to PROVE you were tethering, they would only have a reasonable suspicion (which appears to be enough for AT&T).
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Im not sure what the default TTL is for the plethora of Android devices or if this is even how ATT is finding out. Maybe Android users have not gotten letters yet is because of what someone said earlier: apple included something in 4.3 to detect this. Also, IF they are using TTL to detect, there are way too many Android devices with presumably different TTL values for them to precisely detect who is tethering.
from most the reports ive seen ATT has been usually handing these notices out to users that have heavy bandwidth usage. By heavy i mean, 18gb+ a month, this has been the case at least for most iPhone tethering users according to modmyi. It is pretty random tho as I've seen someone use as much as 33 gb in a month and not get served. but if ur within the 5 gb - 10 gb range i dont think you have to worry
Meursau|t said:
As soon as AT&T warns me that I'm using too much data, I'm going to warn them that their ****ty network and lies about 4G violate MY terms of service.
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Yep tell it like it is.
I have not been given a notice, how ever i am ahead of the curve on this, i spent hours 2 nights ago searching for this very report because i noticed that on all of my devices including my CR-48 att was blocking it and not allowing them to connect to the network, i was scared that they had found out.... some hours later it started to work again... now i saw this this morning and i know it is just a matter of time, i immediately have started looking for other carriers but the thing is once one goes they all seem to follow suit so i am not sure what i am going to do
t0dbld said:
I have not been given a notice, how ever i am ahead of the curve on this, i spent hours 2 nights ago searching for this very report because i noticed that on all of my devices including my CR-48 att was blocking it and not allowing them to connect to the network, i was scared that they had found out.... some hours later it started to work again... now i saw this this morning and i know it is just a matter of time, i immediately have started looking for other carriers but the thing is once one goes they all seem to follow suit so i am not sure what i am going to do
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At least with verizon, you have to deal with the same ****ty service, but you get LTE instead.
(I'm on at&t....)
t0dbld said:
I have not been given a notice, how ever i am ahead of the curve on this, i spent hours 2 nights ago searching for this very report because i noticed that on all of my devices including my CR-48 att was blocking it and not allowing them to connect to the network, i was scared that they had found out.... some hours later it started to work again... now i saw this this morning and i know it is just a matter of time, i immediately have started looking for other carriers but the thing is once one goes they all seem to follow suit so i am not sure what i am going to do
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maybe... pay for the actual service? =P
dLo GSR said:
maybe... pay for the actual service? =P
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What service are you paying for? We already pay for data. Data is data. What if internet providers started saying you pay for data to be sent to the modem, but you have to pay an additional service to "tether" it to another device such as a router or computer?
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maybe... pay for the actual service? =P
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well first of all that would cost me my unlimited data plan... so that is stupid, 2 i have been a smartphone user for about 12 years and tethering was always included, than they removed it from devices but if you knew what you were doing you could do it on your own, as years have gone on it has changed to get to this ... this is one thing i will not budge on and never will, i do not condone pirating or anything else how ever , if i pay for a data plan to surf the internet from your network than what device i choose to use to do it is of no matter, i do not tether and have multiple devices hooked up or allow other people to use my connection, it is a matter of what device i am using to view the same thing, this does not justify and extra $45 a month charge because i wanted to view the same internet on my tablet instead of my phone while sitting on my couch, or if i want to tether while driving to use navigation. I am viewing the same thing on only one device
POOP - I misread
t0dbld said:
well first of all that would cost me my unlimited data plan... so that is stupid, 2 i have been a smartphone user for about 12 years and tethering was always included, than they removed it from devices but if you knew what you were doing you could do it on your own, as years have gone on it has changed to get to this ... this is one thing i will not budge on and never will, i do not condone pirating or anything else how ever , if i pay for a data plan to surf the internet from your network than what device i choose to use to do it is of no matter, i do not tether and have multiple devices hooked up or allow other people to use my connection, it is a matter of what device i am using to view the same thing, this does not justify and extra $45 a month charge because i wanted to view the same internet on my tablet instead of my phone while sitting on my couch, or if i want to tether while driving to use navigation. I am viewing the same thing on only one device
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But it's those that DO use it on 5+ devices, pulling in 20GB a month that ruin it for everyone else. Not to mention crowd our whole network with unnecessary traffic.
Since I rarely tether, have a built-in Navi for my car, and don't buy into the whole tablet frenzy, I may not feel your specific needs. But for those that are abusing the workaround, I have zero sympathy.
andy2na said:
I just got the tethering text... Im on the unlimited plan and have used about 2gb this month. I mainly use webtop with the hacked tethering method.
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um sh*t
so this is not iphone only .....
lsxrx7 said:
um sh*t
so this is not iphone only .....
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right, Android users are NOT safe...
Ive been using android on ATT since last July and have not touched an iPhone since, so theres no ambiguity with this.

simultaneous voice and data?

I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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To my knowledge this is not possible. Would be hella useful though.
only way is if "voice" if via VOIP such as google voice, skype or SIP provider.
I do it all day! WiFi and I talk and di email and FB! L
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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Smartphones have so many features nowadays that it is honestly difficult for any given person to make use of every one of them. Hence, there are some features that are diamonds to some and useless to others. Just because you in particular don't have a use for said feature, it can be be extremely useful to someone else. For instance, my girlfriend now lives a good 150 miles away. So a lot of our casual conversations are done for long periods of time over our phones. Should I be focusing on our conversation? Sure. Do I also wanna check xda, read an article with her to keep the conversation rolling, maybe watch a funny YouTube clip or something? Definitely. My point is, its not a feature that is visibly useless for everyone. You just don't have a use for it.
A2CKilla said:
i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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you might have an email, or be in your car using it as the GPS with the phone on speaker or bluetooth, or wanna check an email you're talking to someone about, etc. A lotta times, when I've been on the internet with the Photon, I've missed calls, and that includes using my Strava cycling app, which simply maps where I'm going.
Calls/texts will interrupt downloads which is annoying when trying to download large files over 3g
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As others have mentioned, if you have VoIP service independently of Sprint, there's nothing to stop you from using it on your phone. You can do a complete end-run around Sprint and cobble your own adhoc SVDO-ish work-around today. Your battery life will totally suck, and you'll be paying more money for VoIP from some thirdparty provider, but you can do it. Just run the client, forward your calls to your VoIP number, and you're in business.
So, why can't SPRINT do it? Simple. The service we all call "Call Forwarding" is heinously inefficient. It was invented ~25 years ago, and only works for its intended purpose (adhoc forwarding of calls to arbitrary numbers) because there are just a few people using it at any given point in time. If EVERYBODY (or even a large plurality of Android owners) tried doing it at once, Sprint would hit a hard limit beyond which no more users serviced by a given switch could forward calls until somebody else discontinued forwarding to free up a circuit (remember, ESS voice calls are circuit-switched, regardless of any packet-switched magic that might occur at the backhaul and trunk level. You'd be amazed how much metaphorical WD-40 and duct tape still gets used behind the scenes at Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile to glue 21st-century wireless and 19th-century wired phone circuits together & make wireless calls look like landline calls to the PSTN).
To implement large-scale SVDO that's cost-effective, scalable, and sustainable, Sprint has to make much bigger changes that involve their switches (enabling them to terminate calls directly to VoIP instead of relying on adhoc ESS-type call forwarding) and signaling (sending notifications via the same mechanism used now to notify the phone of incoming calls, deliver text messages, and carry Google & Apple's push notifications). That way, instead of forcing your phone to establish and maintain an EVDO or LTE connection 24/7 and use it to poll for incoming calls, it can still use the more power-efficient 1x method, and simply notify the onboard VoIP app that there's an incoming call when it happens.
At the end of the day, it's one of those cases where it's easy for nimble, tech-savvy, and highly-motivated individuals willing to spend a few days learning and experimenting to take matters into their own hands and hack something into working for themselves, but it's a much bigger job to make it viable for the unwashed masses who want it to "just work" transparently without disclaimers, gotchas, and devastated battery life. It's the same reason why iPhones don't have wimax on Sprint. Apple point blank refused to even consider implementing something where users have to toggle it manually and be aware of their connectivity options at all times to really make it work right. Think I'm kidding? Find a nontechnical Sprint customer with wimax-capable phone, and check out their 4G settings. 95 times out of 100, they'll have 4G disabled, even in cities where there's been 4G service for more than a year. They went to the Sprint store, complained about not being able to "surf the web" (WE know their phone was probably thrashing back and forth between 3G and 4G & kept spending 5-20 seconds at a time in "no network connection" limbo), the employee toggled 4G off, handed the phone back to them, and they never had any clue what the employee actually DID. They were just happy that their phone quit endlessly saying they had no internet connection. ;-)

VZW Extender?

I'm sure that this problem is not unique to me. I live in a small community with poor cell service. I have a vzw booster, it's placed in my living room. That way I get good service in my yard. The problem is that most people in my town have become aware of it. We have some really questionable people that have become quite a nuisance, the type of people who you don't want to know when you are home or not. It's really starting to bother my wife. We can't even sit in our living room anymore with the windows shades open. I know that this probably the best place to post this. Can anyone help me out with blocking numbers or something. I'd hate to have to unplug it, I've searched for the answer. But have officially given up. :'(
I mean really? I paid for it, shouldn't I be able to control access just like a router?
Unfortunately it is just extending the cell service frequencies. All the same rules apply that apply to a cell tower. I'm sure Verizon could control roaming of phones on the device, but any low level tech would probably deny the possibility. They probably just don't have a easy one click solution. But i would call them and complain. Tell them you have limited data on your home internet and you don't want the whole neighborhood using your service.
There is also the possibility that your extender could be a repeater of the closest tower to you, in which case you could never deny any phone service because it would also cut that phones service from the tower.
Good luck, please post any info you gather.
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XxStechxX said:
I'm sure that this problem is not unique to me. I live in a small community with poor cell service. I have a vzw booster, it's placed in my living room. That way I get good service in my yard. The problem is that most people in my town have become aware of it. We have some really questionable people that have become quite a nuisance, the type of people who you don't want to know when you are home or not. It's really starting to bother my wife. We can't even sit in our living room anymore with the windows shades open. I know that this probably the best place to post this. Can anyone help me out with blocking numbers or something. I'd hate to have to unplug it, I've searched for the answer. But have officially given up. :'(
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I found this in the FAQ, it may pertain to you.
Can I manage and secure access to my Network Extender?
Yes. Only the Network Extender account owner can sign in to My Verizon to manage device settings. You can set your Network Extender for Open Access or Managed Access.
Open Access allows any Verizon Wireless phone within range to use your Network Extender.
With Managed Access, you can prioritize access to your Network Extender to up to 50 Verizon Wireless callers you select. Where a compatible tower is unavailable, callers that do not appear on your Managed Access list may access the Network Extender when not in use by priority callers. All callers may access the Network Extender for emergency (E911) calls.
Also Section 2 in the manual it also mentions this.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/network_extender_user_manual.pdf
Everything I find says I can set a priority list for 50 phones, but not block. Idk

Understanding Roaming on an Android Phone

There's a debate going on on a cruise forum I'm part of and a lot of bad info is getting thrown in. I thought I'd best ask the experts here and give them a definitive answer.
As you may or may not know cruise ships have their own mobile cell to allow mobile comms (I assume using satellite tech but that's not important!). People are claiming that once you are out of reach of a terrestrial signal with roaming turned on (as you need it to be to use free data/comms in the EU) your phone automatically jumps onto the ships cell and can then incur no end of costs for use of data and/or calls and texts. I have always thought that my android mobile won't jump onto a chargeable network (i.e. one that my provider does not have a free deal with) without asking me but I'm no where near 100% sure of that.
Does anyone have the patience to explain this to me, perhaps it's even a setting in the OS somewhere?
Thanks.

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