Hi all,
I need your opinion. I'm planning to buy a Sandisk 512MB SD Card. How much does it compare with the 256SD Card with regards to speed? Is reading/writing much slower because of its bigger size? BTW my device is XDA. Thanks
My understanding of speed diffs
I don't think 256 vs 512 will make speed differences. The speed differences come between specific cards. My brief research yesterday suggested to me that SanDisk are kinda slow, even the Ultra II cards. It seems the fastest card, consistently, is the Panasonic. I have a plain 256MB sandisk card it PocketMechanic benchmarks it at 0.7x. I will test my new Panasonic card when it arrives later today (hopefully!).
Just for comparison, Lexar 32x cards are rated at 4.8MB/s, the Panasonic is supposedly rated at 10MB/s.
Another data point, I saw a discussion on Amazon.com reviews about the SanDisk 512 and somebody stating it was faster than the 256.
All this leads to: you really need to benchmark the specific cards you are interested in to see if they meet your speed needs. Speed is really variable, people talking about a single process that takes 45 minutes on one card and just like 1 minute on another card (brand).
Got the panasonic card
I got the panasonic card. It writes at "2.9x" as opposed to "0.7x" I got with the stock sandisk. That is better than 4 times the speed. Benchmarked using Pocket Mechanic on an XDA.
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We've been playing quite a bit with new ROMs here for the past few days, and we've been noticing dramatic speed differences between different brands of SD-cards. For instance, we have a 'Dane-Elec' 128 MB card which writes at 25-30 kB/s and a 'Sandisk' which writes at 150 kB/s. 'Sandisk' is currently advertising it's 'Ultra' line of cards for high-end cameras, and the SD variety of these (at 512 MB) supposedly gets up up 2.5 MB/s. These are almost factor 100 differences !
We're suprised how little consumer-education is happening on the net regarding this issue. But we already have both day-jobs and time-consuming hobbies... So could one of you please make a nice automated flash-card speed comparison site which allow people to post results from a standardized tool? If you do it well, you could probably make a living off links to sites that sell the cards, and you'd be providing a damn useful service.
Even the "SanDisk" is the slow one....
There are some testing result about the SD Card, it seems that "Panasonc/Toshiba/HAGIWARA" work at almost twice fast as "SanDisk" can...
Please refer to the page http://www.digital.idv.tw/Cardtest/SD/SD-P1.htm
Hello
as far as i know simpletech one of the best if it's not the best, and pretty fast on reading and writing 10 MB/sec.
please check their technical details on this site
http://www.simpletech.com/upgrade_n...ber=STI-SD/256&std=1&showFrame=&ProfileID=330
thanks with best regards.
Othman
I bought a PNY 256Mb SD card. Found the reviews of it positive, and its speed was good. Price of 68 pounds inc VAT at savastore.com was a bargain.
review at:
http://www.envynews.com/review.php?ID=196
Because of the variation in SD card performance, it would be useful to consolidate information regarding Sd card performance somewhere. SPB have a benchmarking product that's free to use for personal users, so if anybody wants to post stats about their particular brand of SD card, this product may prove useful.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/
I don't know if it translates to SD cards, but I found Lexar CF cards were several times faster than many others, and about 10x faster than a crap Mr. Flash card. Also, the power consumption was MUCH lower!
Also, the technology in 256MB and up card sizes is such that they are intrinsically around 4 times faster than a 128 or below. Now, the fastest 128 might be better than the slowest 256, but in general a 256 is going to be faster.
And forget MMC cards...SLOW!
It seems there is a big difference especially between cards by Panasonic and Sandisk.
The difference is so big you'd better watch out buying a card, there's only 3 manufacturer's and a lot of repacker's. If you don't inform yourself good, you might end up with a costy card that turns out to be a lousy SanDisk...
I found a thread about a test program and various results on Palm's.
check it out at:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12919
Is there such a program on the XDA that works really well?
maybe people could start a topic where all results can be posted?
The SPB benchmark tool says it will take 47 minutes to run and "may" destroy data. I'll have to leave it for another time then.
Ok, first run with the SPB tool on the Lexar 128MB card:
<sc-largefilewrite>13370.900000
<sc-largefileread>2272.100000
<sc-largefilecopyto>3129.100000
<sc-largefilecopyfrom>3096.500000
<sc-manyfileswrite>21207.100000
<sc-manyfilesread>1846.900000
<sc-manyfilescopyto>12893.000000
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom>13356.800000
<sc-dirlisting>139.100000
I'm familiar with the difference between the class 4 (4MB/s transfer speed) and the class 6 (6MB/s transfer speed). But is there any value in using a class 6 card on the XV6800 (regardless of size)?
I ask because I have a 4GB class 6 A-Data microSDHC card in my XV6800 right now and there is no problem at all with it. However, I am considering purchasing an 8GB class 4 Sandisk microSDHC card. So it got me thinking, even thought the A-Data card is capable of a faster transfer speed, that doesn't mean the XV6800 is ever actually using that extra speed. So would I see any slowdown if I moved to a "slower" spec'd microsdhc card?
I looked around for transfer speeds on the XV6800's microSD card slot and didn't come across anything.
Anyway have any data on this? Thanks in advance.
Depends some on what you are using it for but I doubt you will notice much of a difference. When transferring using a card and a card reader from your computer you may notice a difference but otherwise the interface in the phone itself doesn't seem to be all that fast anyway.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the comment, but that's why I'm asking if anyone has any actual data. The device either reads and writes to the microsd card slot above 4MB/s or it does not. I have not found a way to benchmark it so I'm looking for some actual detail. But thank you.
So I found an application that is supposed to measure the transfer speeds of the card slot on a Windows Mobile device. It's from Audacity Audio. The link on Softpedia is here.
I'm familiar with the application because I used the Palm OS version on my old Treo 700P. The problem is that he results always seem inconsistent and confusing.
In any event, I ran the test on two different microSD cards. The first is an empty 1GB Sandisk microSD card with. These cards don't have a "class" rating. The second is a 4GB AData Class 6 microSDHC card. I still had 2.5GB of the 4GB empty.
1GB
Wrt32bit/Wrt8KB/Read8KB
1105/330572/7943757
1105/335208/7710117
1123/366634/7710117
1030/311705/7489828
1070/306242/7489828
Avg
1086/330072/7668729
4GB
1462/109317/6393756
527/111408/6241523
1462/119482/4161015
517/85724/6241523
1581/126334/6241523
Avg
1109/110453/5855868
Honestly, the scores don't seem to make much sense. The read speeds all indicate north of 4MB/s and most of the time above 6MB/s. That's good. But the write speeds seem pointless. 330KB/s (.3MB/s) for the 1GB and 110KB/s (.1MB/s) for the 4GB ?!?!?! That doesn't seem right.
Anyway, any ideas would be welcome.
Write speeds are typically going to be a great deal slower for flash memory. And larger cards being even slower for writing makes a twisted sort of sense. All flash cards have "load-leveling" algorithms built into them to spread the writes across the flash disk in order to reuse locations as little as possible (flash memory cells have a limited lifetime). So the bigger the card, the more memory the load leveler has to manage. Of course, I could have it completely wrong....
Hey guys
Recently I got a new 8Gb Kingston microSD as a present. On it, it says the card is class 4, which should be faster than the one we get with our HDs. Copying to and from it seems dreadfuly slow for some reason, slower than the sandisk one. Is there any special way to format it to gain more speed, or special setting for the format? Thanks.
If someone wrote от a label: speed is xxx, it does not mean, that this card is really fast. And, as far as I know you cannot increase your card speed by software.
Sandisk is more trustful for me than Kingston. I don't insist, just my own experience.
As a matter of fact, when I got my HD, card included was class 6 Transcend, fast enough.
Of course you can try full format, say, using a Big Brother's cardreader.
while formating try changing cluster size to 64kb instead of 32kb default
hopefully it will solve the problem ......
There is a speed bottle neck on the phone. So the speed of SD Card is not so important on phone rather tban on compufer. If I am not wrong, HTC HD phone max out at class 2
Hi all,
For android on TP2 (rhodium 400 for my case), would it be worth upgrading to a 4GB SDHC to run the android files?
Would it be noticeably faster?
I see 4GB microSDHC goin for about $8 on Amazon, and I might go for one if it makes any difference in android performance. Anybody's opinions?
Currently I have 2GB (I think class 1).
Thanks in advance.
mike92585 said:
Hi all,
For android on TP2 (rhodium 400 for my case), would it be worth upgrading to a 4GB SDHC to run the android files?
Would it be noticeably faster?
I see 4GB microSDHC goin for about $8 on Amazon, and I might go for one if it makes any difference in android performance. Anybody's opinions?
Currently I have 2GB (I think class 1).
Thanks in advance.
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If it's not an SDHC (or better) card it's technically "classless". At any rate, I doubt seriously that you'd see any better performance on it. I have a 2gb "classless" card and an 8gb class4 card, and honestly Android runs about the same on either card...
mike92585 said:
Hi all,
For android on TP2 (rhodium 400 for my case), would it be worth upgrading to a 4GB SDHC to run the android files?
Would it be noticeably faster?
I see 4GB microSDHC goin for about $8 on Amazon, and I might go for one if it makes any difference in android performance. Anybody's opinions?
Currently I have 2GB (I think class 1).
Thanks in advance.
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most of the 2gb cards are pretty good in speed, name-brand manufacturers didn't have to put a class on it - i get around 19mb/s read, 10mb/s write on my sandisk 2gb.
anything more - 4gb/8gb/16gb/32gb have classes because they had to do some tweaking for the sdhc specifications, with classes meaning minimum sequential write (C2, C4, C6, C10 = minimum 2mb-4mb-6mb-10mb/s sequential write). obviously, there are some cards that could perform faster than their minimum write speed (my sandisk 32gb C2 does 5.5mb/s write, and my a-data 16gb C4 does 9mb/s write)
just don't get a crappy generic
Mine must be classless. I am not exactly sure how fast my 2gb is, but it's at a decent speed. When I transfer about 200 mb files, it takes me about a minute roughly. I will just stick to my 2gb then.
Saves me $8 bucks! Thanks to both.
Mini Review:
All these cards come at the speeds they're advertised at. HOWEVER, and this is very important!: It should be noted that the R/W speeds will differ greatly depending on if you're running exFAT or NTFS.
Benchmarks:
See below for the speeds, though you should keep in mind that your average tablet or phone will most likely throttle the speeds since the voltage output is way lower than on a desk/laptop.
Benchmarks for 128GB 45MB/s, 128GB 80MB/s, 200GB 90MB/s using exFAT:
Benchmarks for 128GB 45MB/s, 128GB 80MB/s, 200GB 90MB/s using NTFS:
I use my trusty Silicon Power USB 3.0 AIO card reader for these tests in case anyone is curious. See attached pictures below for reference when buying say off shady sites or retailers as fakes are easy to come by.
Thanks for the info!
Do you think there is any advantage in getting a microSD card with faster Read/Write speed. such as the Samsung Evo+ or Pro? or is the Read speed limited by the Shield K1's microSD slot?
If you are using marshmallow (6.0) the faster write speeds can be advantageous when using the SD card as internal storage. Apps on the SD card will use the SD card for writing temp files.
schmacky said:
Thanks for the info!
Do you think there is any advantage in getting a microSD card with faster Read/Write speed. such as the Samsung Evo+ or Pro? or is the Read speed limited by the Shield K1's microSD slot?
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Depends on what you're after really. If you only plan on filling it up with Plex/media content, then speed shouldn't be an issue for most once it's there. But if you plan on writing 100GB worth of content back and forth daily, then I would recommend a faster sdcard.
If you plan on using it as internal storage in conjunction with the internal one (feature introduced with 6.0) then I would also recommend a faster card so it matches the eMMC onboard storage speed since it's faster than this sdcard I currently have, not to mention if you plan on gaming (Android and or Shield only games) a lot on this device. For emulathors and stuff this card is enough.
Has anybody some experience with one of those?
-SanDisk Extreme Pro microSDXC (up to 95MB/Sec, Class 10, U3)
-Kingston SDCA3/64GB microSDHC/SDXC (UHS-I U3, 90R/80W)
According to this fairly recent comparison and benchmarks, they are one of the best:
http://www.techfunology.com/electro...for-photography-action-cams-and-videocameras/
I will hopefully update the thread with the 128GB 80MB/s version as of tomorrow as I managed to snag one for a little over 50€ (Remember, EU here! We have no luxury with 200GB microSD cards being sold for the same price or having 1 gallon of whatever costing the same as 1L of equivalent substance).
edit: no package until monday... sadface.jpg.
poo any decent 64gb cards? was looking at the Samsung evo or SanDisk Ultra 64 GB up to 80 Mbps
@ady702: actually yes.
I made a short benchmark of my 64GB Kingston card (that I mentioned above already):
Results: SD Card - Performance comparison ExFAT vs. NTFS (Benchmark)
Vankog said:
@ady702: actually yes.
I made a short benchmark of my 64GB Kingston card (that I mentioned above already):
Results: SD Card - Performance comparison ExFAT vs. NTFS (Benchmark)
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so the Kingston would be better than the other two? or is it down to the formatting?
It just means, the Kingston is good.
Though, the thread particularly only tells you that you should format sd cards as NTFS.