Hi everyone,
Here is the email I have received from the O2 Pacific Asia in relation to the WM2003SE upgrade for XDA II:
Thank you for choosing O2!
With regards to your query below, O2 XDAII is using Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC, & the latest rom version available for upgrade is 1.60.00WWE. Currently, there is still no news the next coming upgrade.
*Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC is the Only licensed copy which O2 XDAII will have, O2 will not support Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition in XDAII.
The latest rom upgrade for O2 XDAII, you could login at www.myxda.com with your username & password & click on 'Get the latest software for your device.'
In any case where the XDAII was upgraded to other 'rom' versions. The warranty of the phone will be void.
All future release of new models of O2 phones' details will be made available for viewing on the main page of www.myxda.com , please kindly refer to it for future updates. Thank you.
Warmest Regards,
Willy Ho (Mr)
O2 Technical Support
Asia Pacific Region
Even this would be what I excepted, I still feel a bit sad about what O2 decided to do. Hopefully they will change their mind later!
I think it's kinda template answer for anyone who asks for 2K3SE.
Let's wait and see i guess, Asia Pacific normally don't have more details then the one elsewhere.
I agree that this is just a "standard" answer from O2. However, it may be true as well. As I said, hopefully they will change their mind later. By the way, I spoke to imate customer service and they said that the WM2003 SE upgrade should be avaliable by the end of the year. Hopefully they will do it coz upgrading from XDA II to XDA IIi/s....to me it doesn't worth to do it.
Tekguru has alreday hinted strongly that WM2003SE will indeed be released for current owners. An updated ROM is also around the corner.
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:evil: I really am pissed off, I just received this email from O2:
O2's position on Pocket PC 2003
O2 Asia will not be deploying the Pocket PC 2003 upgrade. The Pocket PC 2003 upgrade is subject to the original design of the hardware and the level of integration of the device, particularly between the phone and pda functions. The O2 xda was not designed to support Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and therefore could not take advantage of some of the most important feature upgrades inherent in Pocket PC 2003. After careful evaluation of the costs and benefits and the relatively low impact on the user experience of the current xda version, we have decided not to deploy this upgrade. We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
Any body can help this poor fellow from Singapore.
Now im pissed, guess im going to be living on beta & unsupported (by O2) Windows Mobile 2003. I love it, i dont think i could go back to 2002.
Once the o2 XDA 2003 ROM is made public you'll be able to use it anyway so i wouldn't get to worried about this.
I can't imagine that o2 won't standardise on supporting 2003 on all HTC XDA devices, i think you've managed to get through to the wrong person on the wrong day.
Dear Guys, i thought I might want to share these with all of you, just incase you are deciding to do something stupid...
In the place I worked, I help my company convert devices into chinese platforms so to serve our chinese customers better... and of course other languages as well..
What happen was that, I was doing upgrades till the versions of 1.60WWE on O2 xda ii, turning them into 1.52CHT which I downloaded from O2 myxda.com
Now, got an order yesterday, and so i provide this services for my customer again, upgrading the O2 to chinese.
Being so damn comfident, I double click on the CHT upgrade program, and then walk off for dinner. Guess what happen! I have a dead deviced, and the CHT program just shuts off before I could read the ERROR message.
Back to the company, try the INDIANA JONES trick(a name I thou of which descrides a technique, that one of the guys in these forums shared on how to recover from 1.72 T-Mobile to lower versions by using two devices)
And no it did not worked, then at this point I come to realize that the version numbers on this new XDA II are 1.66WWE.
I think what happen is that, the most i could get to was att he stage of erasing the ROMs and it keeps getting stuck at 0%.
As I am typing this message, I am trying to upgrade this dead O2 into a T-Mobile 1.72WWE. and then re-use the indie trick.
Cheers
Even by o2 standards we're starting to get a bit behind...
does anyone have any inside goss on when the 2i update is due, and what's on it. I'm getting tired of lockups, crap looking UI's and the inability to launch GPRS once I connect it to my car cradle / charger. I've heard rumours of 2005 inclusion, is this remotely plausible? My experience of o2 would suggest otherwise.
I'd ring or email o2 or their staff accounts guys, but I think the average fruitfly knows more than they do. Besides, I like my hair and I would hate to see it all pulled out on the floor...who'd clean it up?
Ant
I agree fully. I purchased my XDAIIi on the promise from O2 that na update was to be release in Spring. This never came and I'm getting so fed up with O2 suddenly becoming very quiet about any upgrade at all, that I'm contacting the Office of Fair Trade to get my contract bounced with O2. Last I spoke with someone in O2 they have no immediate plans for any firmware release for the IIi which is completely contradictory to what I've been told previosuly. Come on O2. SORT IT OUT BEFORE YOU START LOSING CUSTOMERS!!
well imate have said that they will not release 2005 for any of their series og HTC devices so unless tmobile or o2 have a different openion then i dont see it happning
Sean I'm not so sure that the info you got from o2 was accurate...afterall when I tried to ring up a day before (yes a DAY) the 2i was released, I was told by THREE separate individuals on separate occasions that the 2i didn't exist!!
We'll keep hanging in there, but I agree it's getting pathetic now.
Ant
Update
I work for O2 and have managed to find out that the rom update for the XDAIIi has been scheduled for September 2005
at that time it better be wm2k5!!!!
If that's true, you've gotta love the mentality...
New phone = Feb 2005...rumoured update for Spring. Spring comes, nothing. Summer comes, nothing. No update from any o2 source, official or otherwise. Then, suddenly it's gone to September. Also the time the Universal is rumoured to be out.
If it's Sept, then as Zoheer says, it had better be 2005!!
Re: Update
frogspit said:
I work for O2 and have managed to find out that the rom update for the XDAIIi has been scheduled for September 2005
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I don't supose you could find out when the xdaIIs update is due as well?
Thanks Frogspit, If that's the case I can be patient until then. The most inuriating thing is getting no information at all from O2 or even denials of any update at all. It's like being stuck on a London Underground train thats not got going anywhere and the driver doesn't give any information. It really [email protected]@es people off and drives them away from their service.
The official reply given by the o2 second line team (data support) is that its "highly unlikely" that o2 will offer rom upgrades to wm5 for existing devices.
JD
Re: Update
frogspit said:
I work for O2 and have managed to find out that the rom update for the XDAIIi has been scheduled for September 2005
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I find that a bit hard to believe. If you work for o2 then at what level have you got that info? If its at customer service level then someone is probably just playing guessing games.
JD
seanrkelly said:
I agree fully. I purchased my XDAIIi on the promise from O2 that na update was to be release in Spring. This never came and I'm getting so fed up with O2 suddenly becoming very quiet about any upgrade at all, that I'm contacting the Office of Fair Trade to get my contract bounced with O2. Last I spoke with someone in O2 they have no immediate plans for any firmware release for the IIi which is completely contradictory to what I've been told previosuly. Come on O2. SORT IT OUT BEFORE YOU START LOSING CUSTOMERS!!
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Can you let me / us know how you get on with this please?
Update
This information has been obtained from one of the members of the blackberry/tech support teams (non customer facing) within O2, I have been told as well as the O2 active update there is going to be a full rom update in or around the same time. this rom update will be the similar as the one that is currently available for the XDAII.
Included with the new rom update will be blackberry support for the XDAIIi aswell for those of you who are interested.
I have requested to be part of the beta test will post again near the time
This may coincide with this -
o2 music player
Xda II - Coming Soon
Get the latest sounds on your Xda II by downloading the O2 Music Player.
http://music.o2.co.uk/players.html
They may add the music player into the o2 active software which would require a ROM upgrade.
Re: Update
jdee246 said:
frogspit said:
I work for O2 and have managed to find out that the rom update for the XDAIIi has been scheduled for September 2005
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I find that a bit hard to believe. If you work for o2 then at what level have you got that info? If its at customer service level then someone is probably just playing guessing games.
JD
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jdee246 shame on you for doubting me!!! rom update is now available from www.o2.co.uk/xda FULL SMUG MODE NOW
Don't see what you've got to be smug about. You got the date wrong and you were wrong about blackberry being in the rom.
Smug yes very
Yes got date wrong but they managed to launch early than anticipated so not totally wrong!!! and you were the main doubter as for the blackberry support they withdrew it due to technical issues what do you want 'the moon on a stick!!!!'
i dont think he / we want the 'moon on a stick' i think he / we want o2 to stop making promises which they clearly cant deliver.
i too upgraded from an xda2 to a 2i on the promise of blackberry support. its amazing that a company of o2's size and with the amount of money they make that they cant develope, test and release in 5 plus months something they only until recently kept saying would be released "soon"
total shambles to be honest
steve
There won't be a release for wm2005 on XDA IIi so start saving your money for the HTC Universal. Don't ask me how I got this info, but it is the fact! Too bad for all of us Xda IIi owners. Especially because I paid 1200 us when they first came out. Ouch!
Re: Smug yes very
frogspit said:
Yes got date wrong but they managed to launch early than anticipated so not totally wrong!!! and you were the main doubter as for the blackberry support they withdrew it due to technical issues what do you want 'the moon on a stick!!!!'
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You announce to all on this board that the release will include blackberry, and when it doesn't we're accused of wanting 'the moon on a stick'. That's very arrogant. You bloody announced it!
To be fair to O2, this is RIM software, and from what I'm hearing its RIM thats failing to come up with working software. But I do get annoyed when arrogant dickheads come onto this board, promise things that turn out to be complete rubbish and then blame us for it.
Frogspit, if I'd gone out and bought an xda IIi on the back of what you announced, because I want blackberry, now I really would be pissed off, and I'd be doing a lot more than just sounding off on this board.
I had to do a full reset because of unstability, but when I fired up O2 Connect to get O2 Plus, it wasn't there! Does anybody have a copy, or can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong here? Last time I set up the phone it was there without any hesitation. I'm dependant on that thing!
Mastiff said:
I had to do a full reset because of unstability, but when I fired up O2 Connect to get O2 Plus, it wasn't there! Does anybody have a copy, or can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong here? Last time I set up the phone it was there without any hesitation. I'm dependant on that thing!
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hmmm... I hear that MWG group is taking over O2 Asia and that all downloads and support has been moved to mwg website. This might explain it:
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It has been announced on 1st of November 2007 with immediate effect, Mobile and Wireless Group (MWG) will be taking over O2 Asia's assets in an agreement between MWG and Telefónica O2.
MWG is a company established by the current management team of O2 Asia to take on O2's existing PDA/Smartphone business in Asia and to continue to serve this high-growth sector.
To be kept up to date on the latest software applications, ROM upgrades and user tips for your current O2 device, please click here to be a part of MWG Connect on or before 15 Jan 2008. This will also ensure you are the first to hear about MWG's products, services and special offers.
Profiles of customers who have yet to opt in to MWG Connect will continue to be stored in O2's databases and may be dealt with in accordance with O2's data policy.
MWG will be responsible for warranty and after-sales support for all O2 Xda devices in the region. For up to date information on our service, please check support page before visiting the service centers.
We thank you for your continued support.
Yours truly,
O2 Asia
Thanks, but I don't think so, I have been there. It doesn't mention O2 Plus at all, only the totally useless SMS Plus, Media Plus and a few other silly things. Also I tried to download with the O2 Connect, and it had all those other programs in there, but not the O2 plus. And I'm also missing O2 Menu, which I have also been using since I got the Atom Life. Fishy stuff...
nice title W..T...F LOL hehehe
What's even nicer is that I finally found it. It's hidden within O2 Themes in the auto installer! Silly place to put it, but at least I found it. So now I have the % battery strength on the Today screen, and I can close programs totally with the long tap.
O2 plus is unstable
I missed ik as much after re set whan i did not find on O2 connect. then MGM people sent to me and moment i install it works fine but once one sets the current date it hangs and has to be hard reset and the same spiral is repeated...i stii miss % battery and close program menu but have come to live without.
Does anyone know if they're going to release an official Vodafone ROM upgrade? I've contacted Vodafone and they sent me a text with a link for the orange ROM upgrade??? I was also told around mid-October that it would be released in a week??
are you sure they didnt send you to THIS page for all downloads, , , on which currently the top entry is the orange 3.14 rom? (and is also the page that any carrier 3.14 roms will appear)
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are you sure they didnt send you to THIS page for all downloads, , , on which currently the top entry is the orange 3.14 rom? (and is also the page that any carrier 3.14 roms will appear)
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Yes samsamuel, it was. I would have preferred it if they'd just said keep and eye on the hTc website, as that's what I've been doing for about 2 months anywez! Thanks for the reply m8. They sent me the following email:
Hello Paul,
Just to let you know that prior to releasing or approving any software update for our Vodafone customers who have bought a handset through Vodafone, we test it thoroughly to ensure it provides customers the best possible experience on our network.
Our testing process begins as soon as we receive the software, which often happens once the manufacturer has already released the open market version of the software.
During the review process, we report any issues with the software back to the manufacturer for them to address. Once the firmware is approved by Vodafone, we return it to the manufacturer and they will then distribute the software to customers through the appropriate channels.
We undertake this process with every device that we sell to customers, regardless of whether or not the handset contains Vodafone branded software.
If you have purchased the device from another company (Phones 4U, Carphone Warehouse etc) it is possible that the device may not be on the Vodafone version of software. In this case the manufacturer would be in control of releasing any future updates.
I trust the above information helps.
Kind regards,
Pravin Raut
Vodafone Customer Services
Vodafone is so bloody annoying. I remeber it was released first on vodafone rather than orange, so how come orange got update before them. They had released ROM for HD mini, HD2 might be on the way....... no good vodafone !
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Vodafone is so bloody annoying. I remeber it was released first on vodafone rather than orange, so how come orange got update before them. They had released ROM for HD mini, HD2 might be on the way....... no good vodafone !
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I agree. I can't understand how orange got their update out before voda? Not only that, they then go and release a ROM upgrade for the hd mini? I just hope it comes out before year end?