My Dream Pocket Pocket PC Phone Edition Setup - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?

mate, some asnwers to your questions...others may have other opinions or ideas...
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
ANS - i use the xda2; though the loudspeaker isn't as good but generally i'm satisfied with it. but i never put the phone to my ear since i use a bluetooth headset (more comments on that one below)
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
ANS: which is probably one thing why i think i won't be getting the mda3...but i have used a foldable keyboard or used my laptop (with a 3rd party software) to use the keyboard and mouse to control the xda2
Bluetooth
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
ANS: i used to have the jabra but found it to be weird having to wear it on my ear all the time. plus if i wear it for long periods, i develop a "cramp" on my ear...and had some issues with bonding when activesync was being done. i NOW use the O2 headset; see attached pic. i like it because it's very discreet; it just clips on my collar / shirt and i let the headphone dangle inside my shirt pocket. or i can holster it on the clip-mike. the headset can receive or end calls, so when i'm driving i don't have to hold my pda. don't have any issues with it; no bonding issues, reception is great, mike is sensitive, etc.
23) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
ANS - yes, when the phone rings, it's immediately transferred to the headset and all i have to do is switch it on to receive the call (for my o2 the switch is on the headphone), or click it twice to reject the call.
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
ANS - i think most of them do...
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
ANs - love my O2 headset and my bt is on 24 hours a day but when my headset is charging then i have to take the xda to my ear
Syncing
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
ANS - yes, you're talking about the bluetooth-activesync method. i'm using it via my diffusi bt dongle; works great and no need for cables. the only limitation i see is possibly the range since the xda and the laptop can't be separated for more than 30 or so meters. but syncing is very easy and convenient via bt...oh and the great thing about bt-activesync is that you can turn off the screen of your pda and still the laptop is synced. saves you on battery time...
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
ANS: not sure here but my xda is paired with my headset, my laptop and my tomtom...oh and my wife's ericsson...
hope that helps.
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robson

zlester said:
I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
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Interesting reading, you certainly have put some decent thought into this. Let me share my experience with a bluetooth headset:
I have the Jabra BT200. It is a very comfortable unit, more comfortable than anything I have tried out there. I am using it with my iMate PPCPE and it works pretty well. 1 out of 20 times when the phone rings, the call for some reason won't get transferred to the BT headset. -But I can live with that. The sound quality is not as good as a regular wired earpiece. Using the BT headset will put an additional and noticeable strain on your phones battery resulting in less battery life before you need to recharge. I can answer and end calls from the Jabra BT headset but it does not work with MS Voice Command (Which I would discourage use of for other reasons: It's Not stable on the iMate, makes it hang needing hard reset) meaning you can't press a button on the headset and speak to the phone through the headset. The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily.

mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.

Robson said:
mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure about the 1 day usage. I usually get right around 1 days worth of standby, talk w. BT headset, checking email and playing a couple of games. -But that's fine for me. I have never found myself in a situation where I couldn't charge my iMate overnight so 1 full day of somewhat serious use is just fine for me.

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Motorola BT HS850 headset?

Has anyone tried the newest Motorola BT headset with the Blue Angel. The unit just started shipping recently and is the successor to the HS810, which seemed to have a large approval factor (although not perfect). The unit has a flip to use short boom that also acts as an on/off switch. Early reviews indicate that the reconnect time is around a second or two. Based on all the BT issues reported here and other places, I will buy nothing without a first hand test, but I was curious if anyone had tried the HS850.
David
Motorola HS820 with the SX66
Seems to work just fine -- No problems
Have a Belkin Bluetooth 100M USB adapter .. seems to have problems... doesn't auto connect... have to connect manually..
I have the HS850. The connection to IIs is stable. The call pickup time when the boom is open is almost instantaneous. However when the boom is closed, the pickup time can range from 3 to 4 rings all the way to 8 rings and above.
From my experience, it's best to use the HS850 on the same side where you keep your IIs. For me, I clip my IIs on my left side of my body, so I use the headset on my left ear. This setup has proved very reliable for me. The static noise is lesser this way as well.
If I didn't do that, the call will sometimes take a long time to pickup, too unreliable to use. Even if the call is pickup, the other end will encountered alot of static noise.
HTC really need to improve the BT in IIs, if they can boost up the BT signal and reduce the static noise, it'll be perfect.
The HS850 imo is a good match to my IIs, both of them have the same color scheme. The ability to open and close the boom is a very nice feature.
me too
I have the HS850 for use with my PDA2K.
I found it had alot of static before the ROM upgrade and reloading the BT Patch #2 from Imate. Now I have no problems.
The connection is lasts overnight even when my PDA2K is off. Once I turn it on, all I have to do is put on the headset and tap the button once, and they are synced.
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I read on another forum that MS Voicecommand just released v1.5 and that it might allow VoiceCommand over Bluetooth...am going to download the trial tonight and find out. I have MS Voicecommand 1.0.
Still no voice command over bluetooth.
I got a hs850 and it is as it says here in that it syncs well and connects no problems but i am having trouble as my voice seems to being picked up by the phone rather than the hs850 mic.....should the phone be picking me up if i am recivving via the headset..or could the unit be faulty ??
I have the HS850 and it works perfectly with the PDA2K. My only gripe, and the reason I'm returning it is that the volume is very low. It works wonderfully well, which is great at home and in the office. I use it often in the car or on the metro, and it's just not loud enough for any environment with much background noise. Overall a very good unit, but not loud enough.

Car cradle/charger with built in FM transmitter

http://www.shop2us.com/car_mount/d2_fm_kit.jpg
Hi All,
I have just purchased and tested this product. It cost just £22 from Ebay. Quite a bargain really. The build quality is quite poor. However, the D2 does fit quite nicely and you don't need to fiddle with it too much to get the mini USB connected. One strange thing is the side flanges. They do overlap the green and red phone buttons slightly, so you could find yourself accidentally calling someone when inserting the D2 into the cradle.
Once in, it is an excellent product. The sound quality through the car radio is superb. Even driving through London (where the airways are filled with legal and illegal radio stations) there is no interference with this transmitter. I have tried a few of these type of FM transmitters and can happily say this is easily the best so far. The volume on the D2 needs to be turned down to about 13 or 20% on the HTC, otherwise you will get some distortion when playing loud music.
Re-tuning is a breeze with the back-lit LCD screen, if the frequency you have it on has some interference.
One problem is making or receiving a call. When a call comes in, you can hear the ringing through the car speakers. However, this device disables the D2 microphone and does not have one built in itself. The only work around for this is to have a bluetooth headset. Therefore, once a call comes in, the bluetooth headset will then provide the sound and microphone and so you can speak/hear as normal. The car speakers will be disabled once you accept the call through the bluetooth headset. Obviously the headset will need to be connected first. Personally, I use a small programme called bluepower. This turns on bluetooth on my D2 when it is being charged and then turns it off (to save battery) when it is not being charged. Therefore, as soon as I put the D2 into the cradle, it links with my already paired bluetooth headset
So, I can now sit in my car with my D2 charging, playing music through my car radio and make/receive calls using my bluetooth headset without any problems....
All sounds great doesn't it?
However, there is one small problem.
If I choose to listen to a different radio station, I will not be able to hear my D2 ring or hear when an email/text comes in, or to the voice guidance on my iGO8 (not that I use it).... You may consider this a safety feature because you don't want to have this distraction whilst driving do you? Obviously you can still see these events in the usual way, if your screen is turned on. This is not such a huge problem I don't think, but some might.
Perhaps it will be easy to be able to somehow link up a working microphone with this system and have a rather decent hands free system, but I don't know how to. I have seen other threads which have also described this problem with other such systems, but never a solution except the bluetooth headset one. Maybe someone can suggest a registry tweak for this or a Mortscript programme???
Anyway, to conclude, I am very happy with this purchase, especially at the price.
Hope this helps someone
will the Pure fit in a TD2 cradle?
Will the Pure fit in a TD2 cradle? The bottom ends appear to be differently shaped. Is it close enough that the two can be interchanged for a cradle like mitsi posted?
I want a nice cradle with a built in usb plug so I dont have to figit. The proclip one is too darn expensive. Whereas the custom fitted car cradles for the TD2 are plentiful...
Mic For the FM Transmitter ALMOST !!!
Well like you i bought one of these fine products I did come across a couple of issues (and work arounds).
1. At certain output frequency's the GPS did not work ??, noticed that when the power to the FM Tx was removed the GPS signal returned. as I tried different channels the interference varied so worth looking out for.
2. Again at different output channels I would pickup the mobile trying to make a connection to the network (approx every 10min), again changed the channel the effect varied from bad to zero.
Microphone, I took my unit apart and the pcb has the position for a MIC marked on the pcb but no mic fitted. I took out a mic from the supplied handsfree kit supplied with the phone this fitted and off I went to try but no luck.
On further investigation the mic needed to be wired pack to the usb plug BUT the pins for the plug are enclosed in the glue used to hold the plug in position and there were no leads off the plug to wire too !!!!!!!!!!!!
But like u the unit is still worth the cash

BCK Review. Stereo universal Bluetooth Headset

Today I Receive my BCK Stereo universal Bluetooth Headset(From Hong Kong)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I Said i would post my review~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
After letting the device charge for about two hour i decided to hook it up to my TP2 Finally. Btw it come with two headphone, a charger, charging cable, and the BCK.
First Looks: remind me of the ipod shuffle but made out of plastic. The button on the device aren't so sturdy, meaning that they don't click when press, when press you barely notice that ur even pressing a button its soft to the touch.(so far this the only bad thing that i found so far).
Connecting: The Touch Pro2 connect to the BCK without a problem. The BCK use it own volume control, giving you he ability to leave your device on vibrate and still hear your phone ring(When headphone are plug into BCK and headphone are in ear) once your system volume change the change can be heard threw the device(BCK).
Music:sound quality is very good, most of the song i listen to is over 150 kbps. volume really loud since the BCK uses it only volume control and not the touch pro2 system volume(for people that like to listen to music really loud knock your self out). You have the ability to use any headphone you like(3.5mm). A big plus for me is that you don't have to take your phone out of your pocket to change the song or up the volume all can be done wireless threw the BCK!(BTW the headphone they give you is crappy ^_^)
Call Quality: After a 30min converstation on the phone the person on the other line didnt notice any muffling, and had no problem hearing me. Hanging up/Picking up is a breeze even ignoring calls, in call the device use the incall volume and not its on. Incoming call notification the device light flashes blue/red like a cop car behind you indicating to pull over.^_^
Voice Command: and the instruction guide they said the device support voice tags which i dont use. so i wont be able to review this.
Battery life for phone/BCK: BCK stated that the device can last over 10hour of non stop talking 200 hour in idle music playback wasnt stated. I did notice that my touc pro2 was a little warm(guessing cause bluetooth was on and music) as of now i can't tell you if it effect the battery life have to do a full charge for that/normal day use. Confirm that playing music is the cause of the device getting warm, not BCK nore bluetooth.
Device Performance: Didn't notice any lags or hang, freeze up, etc.
Durability: As of now i dont know how the device would hold up against some knock/drop/being sat on/kick/dangle/abuse. Reason why i order two
Radio: i notice that you can't listen to the radio while using the BCK(Stalk FM radio) but i notice that SPB radio allow you to use internet connection to listen to the radio. which basically mean it don't interfere with the BCK.
Well I think that everything, this device can be bought from Ebay(Im sorry if you don't like to shop on ebay) Search (BCK 08 Slim A2DP Stereo universal Bluetooth Headset) new hope this review help you. If you felt like i left something other dont be scared to ask
Reason for this review: Im one of those people that don't like to tell people about something and once they get it it sucks, and on top of that i couldn't find the headphone that came with my device. But overall for something that cheap/ 3 bucks it would get a 8/10
Edit: uploaded pic/want to comfirm why the device get warm(TP2) plus added one more pic
Edit: (August 31) radio update
Nice review. I might have to pick one of these up. Having headphones hooked up to the TP2 with a dongle is cumbersome, but I like to have corded headphones at the gym (they have TVs on the cardio equipment, so I can just plug a set of headphones into the TV when I'm not listening to music on my phone). For $10 (shipped), its worth a try.
yes thrd It.thanx
redpoint73 said:
Nice review. I might have to pick one of these up. Having headphones hooked up to the TP2 with a dongle is cumbersome, but I like to have corded headphones at the gym (they have TVs on the cardio equipment, so I can just plug a set of headphones into the TV when I'm not listening to music on my phone). For $10 (shipped), its worth a try.
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Ur Welcome. It last about 8 hour playing music.
Based on your review i just bought one, i will let you know how i think of this item!
Ordered one too!
Received this item last week, and so far I like it!
Bought it from ebay from "bestvaluesupplier". Shipping took just under 2 weeks. I knew shipping would take some time from reading his eBay feedback, so that was not bid deal. And the shipping time was really not bad, considering it was $7 shipping from Hong Kong to East Coast US.
As the OP touched upon, the housing of this device does not seem the sturdiest. Decently put together, but its just made of a light, cheap-feeling plastic. And the packed-in headphones are complete throw-aways, they sound tinny and horrible.
But listening to music through my own headphones sounds great, and calls seem good so far on both ends. Everything works great, and it was a breeze to pair with my Tilt2. Looks good, and very functional. Clips well to your shirt, pants, etc. Well worth the $10.
I also thought of another use for this device. If you usually hook your phone up to your car stereo with a 3.5mm cable (or even worse, a cassette adapter . . . like me!), you can use this as a wireless, poor man's Bluetooth adapter in your car!
Thanks again to BeEazy10 for the heads-up on this little device. Its always nice to get a cool, inexpensive toy to play with!
Received my BCK and am very pleased how well it functions for my intended need, simply small dongle to plug any 3.5mm headset for bluetooth cordless connection to Tilt2. For this use, it's perfect: easy to use, simple functions and terrific combination with Tilt2.
Pairing was instantaneous, HTC audio player directly sent audio through, BCK 08 has huge volume control available for any needs, and sounds very, very clean on $25 cans. Oh, and pause, next song, back song as well, button from BCK. Tilt2 screen blacks out and BCM continues playing. Range is very long, played two floors in house.
Tried with CorePlayer and got same results: direct audio play through only BT, no adjustings needed.
Haven't used for call-through function yet, but as stated all I wanted was cordless BT hookup to existing earpieces. BCK is so tiny, it's ideal.
One major flaw: stuffing the BCK unit into a case put undue pressure on it's built-in shirt clip (to position in-call mic) and broke off. The BCK is sleeker without the clip and a normal mic cord slider clip can replace function equally well.
I emailed seller to see about replacement, but be VERY gentle putting side or crossways stress on the clip portion.
Update: eBay seller immediately offered refund or replacement, and is sending one out.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BCK-08-Slim-A2D...-Headset-new-/260619163711?pt=PDA_Accessories
Wow, ebay hates me. I had to do a guest checkout with my school email. I tried going into the password reset form for my real account and it was in German. I answered the questions after translating the page on Google and it was wrong. I hate Ebay.
Glad
glad to see everyone enjoying the BCK. I been using mines for about a month now it everything working perfectly. Just remember to always use the stock changer for you dont have overcharging problems.
Updated first post. For ppl who like to listen to the radio
The FM radio will not work with ANY Bluetooth device because it requires a corded headset to be plugged in to use as an antenna.
Miami_Son said:
The FM radio will not work with ANY Bluetooth device because it requires a corded headset to be plugged in to use as an antenna.
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well this bluetooth device has a place to plug in a headset so the radio should work
Miami_Son said:
The FM radio will not work with ANY Bluetooth device because it requires a corded headset to be plugged in to use as an antenna.
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But it work with SBP radio like i said in the first post
Doo Doo said:
well this bluetooth device has a place to plug in a headset so the radio should work
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Nope. It has to be a physical connection to the device. The radio will not work over bluetooth, trust me. It won't even turn on if nothing is plugged into the USB port.
BeEazy10 said:
But it work with SBP radio like i said in the first post
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That's because SPB Radio is not really a radio, it is an internet streaming app. It does not use the FM hardware.
Miami_Son said:
That's because SPB Radio is not really a radio, it is an internet streaming app. It does not use the FM hardware.
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lol ur wrong about one thing. SPB radio use both. internet, and FM hardware.
Miami_Son said:
Nope. It has to be a physical connection to the device. The radio will not work over bluetooth, trust me. It won't even turn on if nothing is plugged into the USB port.
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Haha. Yeah, Doo Doo is not understanding that something needs to be plugged into the USB port on the phone to act as the FM antenna.
But whether the FM radio app turns on when something is not plugged in, depends on the ROM. I have a Tilt2 with a custom ROM, and the FM radio app opens, but you don't get any radio stations without headphones or an adapter dongle plugged in (and speaker turned on).
But regardless of whether or not something is plugged into the USB port, it still won't play the FM radio to a Bluetooth headset.
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lol ur wrong about one thing. SPB radio use both. internet, and FM hardware.
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And what evidence do you have of this? It says nothing on the SPB website about the program being able to use ANY radio hardware. In fact, it only mentions internet streaming. This means that unlike the hardware radio, it uses data, which could cost you plenty if you don't have a data plan. Please keep to what you know instead of passing along erroneous information.
I should be getting mine by the end of the week. I'll see how it is. I need a new skullcandy earbud set, since mine is wearing out.

[Q] Let's talk Bluetooth problems

Hey everyone,
Has anyone noticed bluetooth issues? I've pointed them out in other threads, but they seem to be glossed over. I hate to seem like a noob by creating new threads, but I fear that the issue is being looked over by most people. I've read a few reports of people having issues with their phones connecting to their cars or headsets automatically. Has anyone else faced these issues?
I specifically cannot get my BT headset to connect unless I unpair and repair it everytime I want to use it. Sometimes even during a phone call the headset will drop connection and wont reconnect unless i turn it off and on a few times. For reference, I've tried multiple BT headsets and they all behave the same way. These headset's also work just fine with my Galaxy S2, just not with my S3 (international on XLE8)
No problems with bluetooth here and I use it a lot (HS3000, Logitech Boombox, PS3 and Wii controllers too).
No issues here. Phone sometimes doesn't pair automatically with the BT kit in my work car, but I've had that issue with my S1 and S2 in the same car so I'd say it's a problem with the headunit.
Works perfectly with the Sony headunit in my own car, and connects to my mate's fine.
ok, what firmware rev are you guys running? im going nuts not being able to use bluetooth here!!
somewhat related.
i often leave my sgs3 connected to my laptop via usb when i fall asleep. at morning, battery's charged 100% obviously and phone isn't hot.
last time around, i was listening to music via hm3700 bluetooth headset. then later turned off the bluetooth headset. i forgot to turn off the bluetooth on sgs3 and again fell asleep while it's still connected via usb to laptop.
when i woke up at morning as usual battery's charged 100% but the sgs3 was hot, not so hot but isn't anywhere the normal hot we're accustomed to.
connects automatically to my car's BT built-in system. Only needed to pair once.
Works very well with my Sennheiser PXC 310 BT.
If I switch on the headphones the phone automatically connects to it.
can everyone please detail their firmware/kernel they are using?
i am on XXALE8, with the stock kernel
I have problems on XXLE8 as well connect it to my car head unit and it acrually crashes the headunit after 5 mins being connected . After the heaf unit crashes 3 times it requires a pin code. Iphone 4, 4s and gs2 connect no issues.
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I have problems on XXLE8 as well connect it to my car head unit and it acrually crashes the headunit after 5 mins being connected . After the heaf unit crashes 3 times it requires a pin code. Iphone 4, 4s and gs2 connect no issues.
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thanks for your input, i upgraded to XALF5 and still having the same issues. this is frustrating!!!!
Oddly - my phone will automatically connect to my cars in-built BT system, but it won't auto connect to my Jawbone Era without switching BT of and back on....
I also have problems, with my build-in bt in my car. Have XXBLH3. Connect fine, but drop the connection 2-3min after. My SGSII have no problems
No Ringtone through Bluetooth
Okay here is my problem……I want my custom ringtones i have set for contact to play in my Bluetooth headset when a receive a call, not that dumb ring. That way I will know if I want to take the call or not because I can tell by the ringtone who is calling. Why would Samsung disable this feature. my iPhone 4s plays the ringtone I have setup when I get a call. Is there anyway to do this. I ride a motorcycle and I have a device called a Chatterbox that let’s me connect via Bluetooth to my phone so I can hear my music and talk and make calls while I am riding. On my iPhone 4s my music would pause my custom ringtone would play and I could decide it I wanted to take the call or send it to voicemail, then my music would start right back up from where it left off. Right now my Galaxy i717 and my Galaxy i747 (Note and S III) just play this annoying ring and I can’t tell who it is! Any have a fix or work around for this.
Hmmm, the sound on my cars bluetooth gets distorted and only a reconnect will fix, and more worringly sometimes the S3 will not wake up after disconnecting from my car and only a hard reset will solve it.
My S2 did pretty much the same thing.

Fix needed for car bluetooth vs headphone jack issue.

This seems to be a known problem, but after a day of research, I still don't see a solution, or really understand if this will eventually be fixed by (1) a developer update by someone here much smarter than me, (2) a Samsung update, or (3) will never be fixed.
Issue is:
When the SGS3 headphone is engaged (ie: a stereo phone cable from my SGS3 to my car AUX input), you cannot hear and calls in or out from the built in auto bluetooth (mine is an Audi A3). I've tested many alternatives seen on these forums including, TTY settings, call settings, grinding down the stub of the cable so it doesn't fully engage the headphone, etc.
All to no avail, as when the headphone is engaged (a notification of this pops up on the screen), the default sounds ALL go to the headphone source. Of course, the car mutes the audio mode when the bluetooth is enabled, so the sound is lost! What needs to happen is that the phone needs to allow the phone sounds to flow through the bluetooth. Why this doesn't happen by default confuses me. Never had a problem with my HTC Inc2.
Can a solution to this be developed by some of you talented guys out there working on fixes and mods?
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This seems to be a known problem, but after a day of research, I still don't see a solution, or really understand if this will eventually be fixed by (1) a developer update by someone here much smarter than me, (2) a Samsung update, or (3) will never be fixed.
Issue is:
When the SGS3 headphone is engaged (ie: a stereo phone cable from my SGS3 to my car AUX input), you cannot hear and calls in or out from the built in auto bluetooth (mine is an Audi A3). I've tested many alternatives seen on these forums including, TTY settings, call settings, grinding down the stub of the cable so it doesn't fully engage the headphone, etc.
All to no avail, as when the headphone is engaged (a notification of this pops up on the screen), the default sounds ALL go to the headphone source. Of course, the car mutes the audio mode when the bluetooth is enabled, so the sound is lost! What needs to happen is that the phone needs to allow the phone sounds to flow through the bluetooth. Why this doesn't happen by default confuses me. Never had a problem with my HTC Inc2.
Can a solution to this be developed by some of you talented guys out there working on fixes and mods?
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Maybe if you go into the control panel of your car's built in computer and check the audio and Bluetooth settings it has, that might fix things.
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So you have bluetooth for phone only and younlisten to your music with aux in? I would say if you had an aux in cable with the mic on it like the headphones, then the phone audio would go out over to the radio... But do they make those or how hard would it be to hack your free headphones you got into a double male aux cable
There are no options anywhere in the car settings.
Car mutes phone audio.
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So you have bluetooth for phone only and younlisten to your music with aux in? I would say if you had an aux in cable with the mic on it like the headphones, then the phone audio would go out over to the radio... But do they make those or how hard would it be to hack your free headphones you got into a double male aux cable
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The sound does go through the phone audio already. But like almost all cars, when the car sees a bluetooth call in or out, it MUTES the audio coming in from the radio, the CD, or any AUX input. The phone should send call audio through bluetooth, but it does not.
Is it not possible to either play the music through the bluetooth or to turn off bluetooth all together. The phone mic would pick up wouldn't it
This is only possible if you have a newer car stereo with A2DP.
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So is this just a Samsung problem for me, or for all?
So I am correct that nobody with a bluetooth car phone setup (but no bluetooth streaming) is able to plug their headphones into their aux jacks and still make/receive calls?
Or is this related just to the SGS3? Or just to my Audi bluetooth options?
Would an eventual solution come from a xda brainiac update, from Samsung, or somewhere else?
Do some of you have built in car setups (no bluetooth streaming) that DO WORK with the headphones plugged in?
I can attempt to pair to my brothers car today or tomorrow if that will make you feel better. My bluetooth setup is aftermarket and streams both
I am also curious as to what happens if you don't have bluetooth enabled at all
What about car audio only. Wouldn't it automatically mute your music and then throw the call over bt or is the aux out overpowering the bluetooth signal. Let me look for a way to possibly disable the process that starts when you plug in headphones. Don't count on anything though
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I was doing a little brainstorming here and even though I am quite a novice with tasker, you may be able to make a task that pauses music and transfers call to bluetooth when both bluetooth and headphones are connected. I am not sure if it is an input device problem or if the phone is just dumb or what, but it may be worth a shot
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I can attempt to pair to my brothers car today or tomorrow if that will make you feel better. My bluetooth setup is aftermarket and streams both
I am also curious as to what happens if you don't have bluetooth enabled at all
What about car audio only. Wouldn't it automatically mute your music and then throw the call over bt or is the aux out overpowering the bluetooth signal. Let me look for a way to possibly disable the process that starts when you plug in headphones. Don't count on anything though
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I was doing a little brainstorming here and even though I am quite a novice with tasker, you may be able to make a task that pauses music and transfers call to bluetooth when both bluetooth and headphones are connected. I am not sure if it is an input device problem or if the phone is just dumb or what, but it may be worth a shot
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Your setup is not like mine, and should probably work, as you don't have to plug in the headphone jack. Yes, the problem is that IF the headphone jack is plugged in, ALL sound output goes through that and the bluetooth is disabled (even the symbol on the phone screen is grayed out.
With your bluetooth plugged in, just try putting the earbuds in the phone, then make a call to anyone, then see if your bluetooth icon on the phone call is not grayed out. Now unplug the ear buds and see if the icon doesn't come back on. This is the problem I have.
Never had any problems with either stereo worked fine in my altima and benz. I used aux + bluetooth no problem on my epic4g for the past 2 years and when I first got my s3 it was working until I did an update. Then it broke it.
Sick of having to unplug the aux cable everytime I get a call to allow it to switch to bluetooth
Need some people to test this, please...
I'd like to see if the problem is with the rooted phone image or if this problem also exists on stock, unrooted phones.
If you can:
1) pair your phone to your factory car bluetooth, or even a bluetooth headset that does not stream audio.
2) have any pair of headsets or an aux cable ready to plug in.
3) make a call using the bluetooth to anyone (ideally something that has an automatic answer phone cue like this 919-238-2000)
4) while the call is proceeding with the car bluetooth or bluetooth headset, plug in the headphones, or any cable into the headphone jack.
5) WHAT HAPPENS???
Is it (a) you still hear the phone call through the bluetooth, or
(b) you don't hear the call any more and the bluetooth headset icon on the phone pad goes out?
6) Please state what phone you have, what provider you have, and whether the phone is stock or rooted.
THANKS.
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I'd like to see if the problem is with the rooted phone image or if this problem also exists on stock, unrooted phones.
If you can:
1) pair your phone to your factory car bluetooth, or even a bluetooth headset that does not stream audio.
2) have any pair of headsets or an aux cable ready to plug in.
3) make a call using the bluetooth to anyone (ideally something that has an automatic answer phone cue like this 919-238-2000)
4) while the call is proceeding with the car bluetooth or bluetooth headset, plug in the headphones, or any cable into the headphone jack.
5) WHAT HAPPENS???
Is it (a) you still hear the phone call through the bluetooth, or
(b) you don't hear the call any more and the bluetooth headset icon on the phone pad goes out?
6) Please state what phone you have, what provider you have, and whether the phone is stock or rooted.
THANKS.
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I'm pretty sure I wasn't rooted the first time I tried it. In any case, I wrote to Samsung support on Facebook, and got this reply:
"Hi Chris, thanks for reaching out! You are correct, you cannot use both Bluetooth and Aux at the same time. A few of our customers found a work around by using an A2DP profile with hands free in the car. I apologize for the inconvenience."
So we know they are getting reports or they wouldn't push AD2P as a solution. I think if enough people write in, they will fix this in an update. We really need a critical mass of people to complain to Verizon and Samsung for this to happen. He did say when I replied asking about a fix, that he had passed my concerns on, etc., etc.
Mention "lawsuits from car accidents" when you write in...
sluzbenik said:
I'm pretty sure I wasn't rooted the first time I tried it. In any case, I wrote to Samsung support on Facebook, and got this reply:
"Hi Chris, thanks for reaching out! You are correct, you cannot use both Bluetooth and Aux at the same time. A few of our customers found a work around by using an A2DP profile with hands free in the car. I apologize for the inconvenience."
So we know they are getting reports or they wouldn't push AD2P as a solution. I think if enough people write in, they will fix this in an update. We really need a critical mass of people to complain to Verizon and Samsung for this to happen. He did say when I replied asking about a fix, that he had passed my concerns on, etc., etc.
Mention "lawsuits from car accidents" when you write in...
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I have an issue when it's plugged in via Auxiliary there's a nasty echo the caller hears on the other end because of this headphone mode. Anyway to turn it off?
I will probably return it for this reason amongst others.
Belkin Y37 from Amazon will solve this issue, or provide an alternative.
I can fully confirm the functionality of the Belkin F8Z492TTP. It is now custom installed in my A3 with a direct power hookup and direct connection to the aux input. For power, I had to hook up a 12 volt car outlet behind the dash, insert a 12v to usb adapter, and splice the power cord from the factory transformer to a USB cable. Power is with a micro type H plug that Radio Shack does not have. They should give you a usb to type H cable with it.
Anyway, the Galaxy S3 will connect to two bluetooth devices at the same time...the Audi bluetooth and the Belkin Y37 Bluetooth. I put a shortcut button for bluetooth on my home screen which pulls up the options. You DO HAVE TO RECONNECT BLUETOOTH each time you get in the car, but you had to manually plug in the cable the other way.
When a call is made, the car bluetooth takes over with full steering wheel controls, and when it ends, the audio goes back on (I think automatically). Since I have constant power to the Belkin through the 12v, if you step away and then come back, you can automatically regain your connection, which is nice.
I did the modification to the Belkin where I broke it carefully open and pulled the metal innards that are purely designed to give it a feeling of mass. All that is inside is a teeny circuit board that must have cost $1 tops! Belkin lists this at $50, although it is half that on Amazon.
All in all, a decent solution to a frustrating problem. Sound is pretty decent.

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