I'm currently looking for a BT GPS which one do you advise I cant seem to make up my mind although I'm close to buying a TomTom BT one
What have you and why does it work well ?????
I can recommend either a TomTom BT GPS (ebay for around £80-90) or..... I have a wired version of the TomTom which is cheaper and fits my arkon car xda2 pwered and speakered cradle, and really does work well, and it hides really well into the corner of the windsceen with minimal wires, in fact i have managed to bury mine in the dash.....plus the wired are cheaper too, about £60 on ebay.....any help??
In fact having thought about this, I have a powered xda2 car kit, with GPS and hands free talking for under £100, which aint bad going. Just make sure you get TomTom as the nav software, it really is the best.
Therer are many thread on this, also look at www.pocketgps.co.uk
My advise: buy a cheap BT GPS on ebay. Bought my D-Connex DC-230 (rebadged Holux GR-230) for approx 104 euros (in fact: a BT GPS for the price of a wired one)
When buying, keep in midn you need more than a gps to navigate:
Software
Carkit or Cradle and powerlead (Y-cable)
Dashmount or Windscreen-suction mount
Also verify you wotn have any issue with a heat-resistant windscreen. These type of windscreens have a metal layer that prevents any radio signals coming thru, except for about two spots, mostly next to the mirror behind which you will have to put your gps.
bryson said:
I can recommend either a TomTom BT GPS (ebay for around £80-90) or..... I have a wired version of the TomTom which is cheaper and fits my arkon car xda2 pwered and speakered cradle, and really does work well, and it hides really well into the corner of the windsceen with minimal wires, in fact i have managed to bury mine in the dash.....plus the wired are cheaper too, about £60 on ebay.....any help??
In fact having thought about this, I have a powered xda2 car kit, with GPS and hands free talking for under £100, which aint bad going. Just make sure you get TomTom as the nav software, it really is the best.
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I'll have that if it fits a MDA III pm me and I'll send my telephone number and personal email
I dont sell any of these, I am just a Joe Soap with an XDA2 whom made the plunge!
This link looks interetsing for the sirf GPS with the Arkon kit all in one. I aint seen this one before......However, NO Idea if the MDAIII has the same bottom connector as the XDA2 I guess this is relevant whatever cradle you may jump for.....maybe the seller could advise, or the forum?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=69929&item=5138639767&rd=1
This is the kit I have, and i then bought the tomtom GPS wired with a RJ11 cable that plugs into this cradle and gets its power from the cradle also, to avoid the recharging issues from the BT versions.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3730&item=5138957143&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Any the wiser now?
Tomtom Navigator Bluetooth
Had the Bluetooth running very well with the XDA 2, had occasisional issues where I would have to switch Bluetooth off and then on in order to establish a connection between the GPS reciever and the phone.
I am having no luck with the XDA 2s and the Bluetooth reciever - or rather some luck but most of the time the phone tells me that the Bluetooth device4 has no useable services, upgrading to the lates GPS driver seems to drop the option of using the tomtom BT reciever and I end up having to use the BT outbound serial port 6 in order to get a connection, this will then work fine, if I leave both the XDA2s and the BT reciever running. Switch either one off and I have to re-create all of the BT connections from scratch. Anyone got any suggestions, I love the WiFi in the 2s but Sat Nav is far far more important to me.
GPS BT
Guys,
I have a Leadtek 9537
http://www.leadtek.com/gps/gps_9537_1.html
wich is the same has the FAC BT-30, but way cheaper (obviously, Leadtek makes them)
works find with Tomtom, precise enough
you just need to get the car charger, wich doesn t need to be the Leadtek one.
hope that helps
Ciao
Guzz
Lyon
France
NavMan won't work with WM2003 SE
You may be interested to know that the Navman Smart ST 2 GPS software won't work with WM 2003 SE. The unit bonds, but apparently the software won't work with the VGA capable display driver, even though we are stuck with 1/4 VGA on our XDA's.
After all the work put in by people in this forum to get the XDA II working with a serial port, I finally had the XDA II Navman 4400 working very well, spent 6 weeks cruising round Europe with hardly a drama, apart from some very out of date maps (Cruising through paddocks instead of new motorways). Using external aerial I had no problems getting signals in Paris, and the unit picked up within seconds of leaving a tunnel.
Version 3 is available in Oz, but even this needs a patch apparently. Navman working on it, possibly February 05 I hear.
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You may be interested to know that the Navman Smart ST 2 GPS software won't work with WM 2003 SE. The unit bonds, but apparently the software won't work with the VGA capable display driver, even though we are stuck with 1/4 VGA on our XDA's.
After all the work put in by people in this forum to get the XDA II working with a serial port, I finally had the XDA II Navman 4400 working very well, spent 6 weeks cruising round Europe with hardly a drama, apart from some very out of date maps (Cruising through paddocks instead of new motorways). Using external aerial I had no problems getting signals in Paris, and the unit picked up within seconds of leaving a tunnel.
Version 3 is available in Oz, but even this needs a patch apparently. Navman working on it, possibly February 05 I hear.
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Actually after recently installing the Merged 2.02.t1WWE & 2.06.00WWE ROMs, Navman is working better than ever before! I'm using Navman 4410 SmartST Version 2 and the great thing about WM2003SE is that I don't have to check the GPS box everytime I want to use GPS!
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Is it just a program I need or do I need to go out and bye some Hardware?
If the first where can I find it(Trialversion or something so I can see if I even going to use it)
You will need both hardware & software.
Hardware: GPS receiver. Wired or wireless (bluetooth).
Software: Making the GPS data comprehensive. Good choices for car navigation are TomTom or Alturion.
You will need a gps unit, if you are going to use this in car only then I suggest you save money by buying a wired system instead of bluetooth. TomTom deals are very good right now from some suppliers, you get tomtom 3 plus the gps plus all charging/power cables. What part of the world do you reside?
I finally bought a wired GPS, called Tegaron Scout from EXTRAByte in Germany. They also sell on ebay (look for "xda gps").
It comes with a small box with gps inside, all the cables for wiring to the car (both cigarette cable and fixed one), plus a bordit support with the cable.
The reception is very good (never lost signal in a week when not in tunnels or car park) and the price is too: 139€. I strongly raccomand it!
Regards,
GPS for Qtek 1010
I have a Qtek 1010, I live in the UAE and go often in the desert.
I need a GPS and wonder if I have to buy one separate GPS or use my Qtek as support.
What would be better?
hELLO,
I had one qtek 1010 last year and I used it as a gps system in my car with wired antenna and tomtom 2 worked very fine.
Now I have a qtek 2020 with the same wired antenna (same connections) with tomtom 3 still working very fine.
In your case, all depends of the software you use, there are software for streets and citys, Marine and fishing, you only have to find a gps software that supports the desert. I think if you use your qtek it will turn less expensive.
Hi,
After 2 days of intense researchs, I think I will choice the GPS HAICOM HI-204S to connect to my Qtek but I am still not sure for the software.
I have seen :
- OziExplorer and Memory-Map which seem both very attractive but also very complecated to install and use,
- VITO SmartMap which seem simpler but maybe too simple.
Thanks to help me in this choice.
Hi all,
I just got a Qtek 9090 branded by Vodafone. Seems an excellent piece of kit.
I want to use it for GPS in my car. Can I have a recomendation for a GPS BT kit please.
I hear TT3 can be REALLY slow with the 9090 and that is due to be replaced by TT4 soon. Is the Navman 4420 compatible and any good?
Thanks.
Andrew Ellinas
EMTAC BTGPS CruxII + Mapsonic
buzz
I use an XDAII with TTN3, works fine. I would reccomend Globalsat, Leadtek, Fortuna ClipOn or Emtac BT GPS units.
I have a garmin GPS 10 bluetooth unit which has just ben released, I have found that it works well and has the advantage that it comes with PC and pocket PC software so that you have the option of using your phone or your laptop, the europe cover sems good.
I have a Rikaline 6010 X5 mouse. Works great even through my windshield with foil I have up to 8-10 satelites!
I just ordered my Qtek 9090 branded by the german mobile provider ePlus, cant wait for it to arrive. In the meantime I keep looking for things to use my PDA for.
Im all into GPS navigation systems, ever been. BUT if you keep on reading this post you hereby willingly accept the fact me being a -> complete <- newbie on that issue.
So actually my main question at the moment is, what besides a PDA and a SD card and software do I need to start? How do I let the satellites know where I am?
factor5
recommended GPS
I have the Globalsat BT338 receiver. One of the best and got over 98% in reviews. it is based on the latest sirfstarIII chipset. (Sirf are the leading chipset makers for gps receivers)
SN
tom tom car craddle
Does anybody know if there is a tom tom car craddle somewhere, some kind of holder which combines the GPS antenna and a car holder with loading function.
@factor 5:
I guess you already got your MDA3. DO you figure out a way with the GPS thing. I also have the provider eplus and am waiting for the blue angel to come...
answer would be nice
BT 338
Hi guys new here looking for some help.
I have the ORANGE SPV M2000 and have Tom Tom working fine via serial cable ARKON holder with GPS and speaker.
But I bought a new BT 338 sirf star 111 Bluuetooth and cant connect to my PDA any help in setting this up please.
Best Sat Nav
I have an XDA IIs with a BT-338 bluetooth GPS receiver and Destinator 3. I use an Arkon mount which powers the XDA and can also charge the GPS receiver.
I have used Destinator in Ireland, France, Spain and Florida and find it very good.
Sorry for my ignorance but im a novice as far as pda's are concerned. I have looked through many posts but can't come up with an answer. I have just received my spv m2000 and need to know what I need to use it for sat nav in my car. Could anyone please advice? sorry if their is already a thread on this subject but im in a bit of a hurry as I am heading off for Southampton on a few days and need to get some gear ordered.
i am in the same situation as you. from research tomtom navigator with version3 software is the best option with either the gps reciever of bluetooth or wired
p1tse said:
i am in the same situation as you. from research tomtom navigator with version3 software is the best option with either the gps reciever of bluetooth or wired
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i believe that tom tom 3 is the best but which bluetooth reciever and how much? There are a few on ebay but i dont want to get ripped offwith some cheap inferior one
I have heard good reports of emtac, particularly this model : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EMTAC_GPS_TRINE
I just got a Altina GBT-708 BT GPS off eBay, and have been testing it with MS Pocket Streets 2004 (free as part of my MSDN subscription) -- it works quite well, given the limits of the Pocket Streets software. I'll probably try the DeLorme software next -- it's only $35 as opposed to $150 for TomTom, and I'm a cheap bastard
The Altina can be had for $75-$100, and supports WAAS/EGNOS for extra accuracy -- it uses the same GPS chipset as the TomTom unit, at roughly half the price. One caveat about the Altina -- it's advertised as being able to work over USB, but it doesn't since it shows up as an different device than its driver expects. Not an issue for me, as both the systems I'll use it with are BT-enabled.
The tomtom bluetooth is good, the latest version has a removable battery also. Personally I use a cabled gps because I was having to power the xda in the car so I saw no reason to have a wireless setup when the same plug powers the gps also.
All you will ever need!!! for GPS info
Here it is.. again
www.pocketgps.co.uk
The best site around!
I got a cheap one off ebay, it works fine, paid £50ish, have to manually establish a bluetooth connection with it each time I want to use it but other than that its fine.
I use TomTom on my M2000 and Destinator on the carPC, TomTom wins hands down.
I use an M2000 on Orange with NavMan Smart ST V3. Works superbly and I love the 3D orientation.
Use it with a Holux cradle. You can read a review and my comments there. Mixed opinions on the product from me but the concept is good. Since I posted I have doctored my old nokia dash mount to fix it permanently without the wobble-arm
Still getting lockups if I start SmartST in the cradle. NavMan say they don't support this phone!!!
I did try the tom tom cradle with an external gps reciever but it wouldn't hold on to the port and fell over all the time. Would prefer a similar solution to the Holux but if you want a portable GPS solution the Holux is OK albeit with some issues ....... that speaker!!!!! AAAAGHHH. Fine now though. Read the review for more.
A couple of things worth noting...
Just to add a little info to this thread.
I have an SPV M2000. The information I found on the internet at www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk and www.gpsforless.co.uk says that the TomTom GPS units are some of the best available. Mine works perfectly but I'm sure others are as good if not better.
One argument for wired and as opposed to Bluetooth GPS is as follows.
Wired means that you can use your Bluetooth headset if you get a call during your journey. Also no headset cable to get tangled in your flailing arms as you spin the steering wheel. Minus point unsightly wires across dashboard.
Bluetooth GPS means that you can use your GPS system away from the car as the Bluetooth unit is battery powered. You cannot use Bluetooth headset with it so problems as described above.
Just a couple of points but worth considering.
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gazobee said:
Just to add a little info to this thread.
Bluetooth GPS means that you can use your GPS system away from the car as the Bluetooth unit is battery powered. You cannot use Bluetooth headset with it so problems as described above.
Just a couple of points but worth considering.
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Sorry I dont belive this to be correct, I have the M1000 and I can/do use the bluetooth GPS and Headset at the same time..
dogo
I have an M2000 and i can use sat nav and a bluetooth headset, the M2000 disconnects from the GPS and connects to the headset (this process takes about half a second) during the duration of the call, and then it reconnects back to the GPS once the call is over
its true that you cannot use sat nav and make calls with bluetooth at the sametime, but you cannot see the screen or hear the sat nav program during a call, so what does it matter?
but it does switch seamlessly over, so do not be put off using a bluetooth GPS and a BT headset with your M2000
Oh, and by the way. the reason i chose a bluetooth GPS is because it is a self contained unit, so when it is powered in the car even when he car is switched off, it has always aquired a signal so no waiting when i get in the car for my position to be picked up
I've a Parrot BT CK3000 car kit and BT GPS and both work together fine, although I have less hassle if the GPS and my M2000 are connected first.
Just to clarify things here...
Previously I was running TomTom Navigator 3 on SPV M1000 and now have upgraded to TomTom Navigator 5 on SPV M2000.
On both Pocket PCs and with both versions of TTN, I was able to use bluetooth GPS AND use bluetooth headset to make calls etc without TTN packing up.
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Thanks guys, I stand corrected.
Using gps away from the car would probably be useful for walkers and cyclists. I was unaware of the auto switchover. Lets just hope you don't get a call at a particularly complicated intersection.
I suppose that fact that i can sometimes spend 20 minutes on a call in the car would make BT gps useless for me. I'm glad I chose wired.
K
I have both wired and BT. Got the wired one way back with Destinator 2 on my original XDA (Bluetooth not an option at the time). Got BT GPS last year for XDAII and found that as I use SatNav mainly in the car I tend to use the wired one - no conflict with headset and charges the phone at the same time, so I don't have to remember to charge 2 devices. The original Xda connector has worked fine in XDA, XDAII and MDAIII.
By the way, three of my friends have bought the following cheap BT GPS from Expansys
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717
And all say it works fine.
HELP
I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A SPV M2000 IT ALREADY COMES WITH MEMORY CARD WHICH HAS TOM TOM INSTALLED ON IT EVERYTIME I PUT MEMORY CARD IN TOMTOM SCREEN COMES UP THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO HOW DO I USE THIS THING DO I NEED ANY ADDITIONAL STUFF
IM REALLY NEW AT THIS AND WOULD APPRECIATE ANY KIND OF HELP
PLS PLS EMAIL ME ON [email protected]
PLS EMAIL ME DIRECTLY ITS URGENT!
tomtom sat nav full package
Hi
I have a 1 GB memory card that has the latest tomtom installed(tomtom navigator 5). I use it for my XDA Exec. It also has alerts for speed cameras.
I am selling the memory card with tomtom software and also i have a brand new bluetooth GPS reciever.
Any one interested please make me an offer.
Thanks
After looking around for a car mount that would suit me, and hesitant on paying a premium for the Brodit/proclip solutions, i've decided to go with Arkon's unviersal mount solutoin.
While browsing around, i found that you could get one of these mounts for free of for a slight upgrade fee, when u purchase a GPS software/receiver bundle.
I kno there have been threads about this before, but i guess i'll ask again.
Which combination would ppl recommend.
I live in Boston, MA.
I have a tmobile usa Mda, with Rom 2.3
I'm leaning towards Inav's Iguidance 2.1.3 since i've been reading threads of ppl having a terrible time of getting TomTom to work.
So is Iguidance a good call? And what are the rumours that Igudance v3 is coming out soon? Is that worth waiting for?
And now to the receivers?
Globalsat Bt338 vs. Holux GPSlim 236?
or does it not even matter?
Thanks for any helpful comments.
running tomtom 5.21 on mine no problems at all.
as for Holux GPSlim 236, thats what i currenty have, its 100% good, uses same usb charger plug as mda, works indoors too! the reviews on the web speak highly everywhere, have had gps BT recivers for a few years and this is by far the best!
I just got the IGuideance V3 in yesterday and it is so user freindly. I am using the BT reciever that came with MS streets and Trips. I think it's a Pharo. Anyhow, it's all working great. :wink:
GSXR_6 said:
I just got the IGuideance V3 in yesterday and it is so user freindly. I am using the BT reciever that came with MS streets and Trips. I think it's a Pharo. Anyhow, it's all working great. :wink:
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Is the receiver that comes with Streets & Trips BT, or does it require some adapter? I have been looking to purchase either that, or Mappoint 2006, but wasn't sure if the adapter was BT.
Yes it is BT, or you can slip it off the battery adapter and hook a USB to the laptop from the GPS receiver. :wink:
Where did you see the all togeather package?
www.buygpsnow.com
or
www.semsons.com
as a cheaper alternative, consider the i-blue.
i got this for my wizard and have had no trouble at all with TOMTOM 5.
regularly picks up 10 sattelites and has no compatability problems.
Ive been using the Globalsat BT 359 w/ my wizard and it's great so far.
But, Im wondering if Im wasting money.
Ive got the Data Unlimited Plan w/ Telenav GPS service coming in at around $50 monthly.
Ive seen some ppl using the Navizon P2P Wireless Positioning with the Local option for free.
So my question for all the GPS users is,"what's the best setup?" And/or the cheapest?
I got an iBlue BT GPS receiver off eBay for $80 including the car vent mount for my Tmo MDA. The software can be pricey if you can't find a free copy, but once you have that, you don't have to pay anything monthly. You don't even need to have data on your account.
Anybody know what would be the best BT GPS receiver for being wired into my car for power??
I basically want to leave the receiver in the car at all times and be able to connect to it when needed and not have to worry about it being charged and such.
Thanx!
Try then Rikaline GPS-6033 which can be found on eBay for 50-70. I had never heard of this brand or even know how reputable it is, but their reciever has an auto function, which, when attached to the car via the included charger, and set on "auto" mode, it will turn on and off automatically with your car so you never have to worry about battery.
I also wanted this feature so I took a chance on the reciever and have been quite happy with is so far.
It also comes with magenteic mounts so you can keep the reciever secure in your car.
Running with Holux236 and TomTom 6 with my Wizard. Works like a charm. No problems.
/d
Thameth said:
Anybody know what would be the best BT GPS receiver for being wired into my car for power??
I basically want to leave the receiver in the car at all times and be able to connect to it when needed and not have to worry about it being charged and such.
Thanx!
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Any of them will do just get a hardwire kit from Best Buy or something and tap into your fuse box or a hot wire in the steering column, I have mine hook up to my wiper fuse so it'll be on only when the car is on.
garmin gps10
I have the Garmin GPS 10. It is bluetooth and works with my laptop as well. Not real fond of the included software, wish I had TomTom.
http://www.garmin.com/products/gps10/
It seems to slow my processor to a crawl, so I currently use it in my car with an old HP ipaq 5450 and no longer have it installed on my Cingular 8125.
-Go0se
"God bless Bob Stoops and God bless America."
dodgy said:
Running with Holux236 and TomTom 6 with my Wizard. Works like a charm. No problems.
/d
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I'm using the Holux GPSlim 236 as well. I think i read that it can be hard wired and has the logic built in. I recommend it. No problems with mine whatsoever.
I picked it up on ebay for about $75 and it included the asskorn vent mount that I use on my desk as a stand...it works perfect.
GPSSlim 236
it is simply flawless.
GPS
I couldn't get my GPS Garmin 10 to work with my MDA (TMO) but after the upgrade to 2.26 I was able to turn on the GPS control icon in settings/system. You need to edit the registry (I got a copy of Kilmist) and in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
delete the "redirect" key (I have no keys in GPS Settings).
This turns on the GPS icon.
I do find it a bit of a pain to connect, but that's because the MDA doesn't have the "Connect?" choice for devices. My older IPAQ 6315 and my cell phone allow you pick a device, then say connect. I find a lot of devices are tougher to connect via B/T than they should be..I don't know how to get around it. Why they couldn't just have a "Connect This Device?" option is beyond me.
I have had 2 Holux236 units that the bluetooth just stoped working on, The light wouldn't even come on. I am thinking about trying an i-blue.
im using the i-blue 737 and very happy with it.
i had some problems with the wm5 gps multi-plexer .. and trying to use telenav + windows live at the same time. so i havent been doing that lately... now that i have a fresh install with a molski rom (my old tmobile rom install was a bit buggy for some reason.... i think it was the chinese ebay sd card i had in there before i got this sandisk ultra II mobile when i did my molski reload)
but , so far so good .. the 737 seems to be very nice
cheap..32 channel (supposedly)...good power...it seems that the 737 (MTK chipset) or any SIRF III chipset module is the way to go.... with the SIRF III being the more standard choice.
i like the telenav..its ok.. its cool that there is no real local install... i do hate the way that the UI seems to 'take over' since i cant use my software kbd if i want to put something in quickly without sliding it open to landscape... other than that its just fine.. but the monthly rate seems a bit annoying.
also they did not offer a t-mobile version..so i signed up saying i had cingular.. downloaded the wm5 install they had for cingular.... installed that client.. and went to the telenav website and changed my profile to say i had a blackberry on t-mobile...works fine.
i think im going to be giving tomtom and iguidance a shot... when i was doing some research they seemed to be the 2 leaders...telenav is ok...but again..$10/mo gets old.
so far i have tried tomtom and iguidance and i like iguidance v3.0 the best. I have a HoluxGPSlim SiRF III bluetooth GPS receiver and its the best combo i can find so far. The only problem is that it can be buggy at times. The gps is fine, but the iguidance is kind of buggy. If you don't enter a destination right after opening the program and then try to press Menu, it pulls up a bar at the bottom for "file, tools, view, etc" and the map freezes. BUT, that is the only grip i have with iGuidance. When i hit a traffic jam i just close out iGuidance and pull up Map4PDA and connect my gps and zoom out to see where it picks back up and then jump off the freeway and take city streets till I'm back in the green and then jump back on.( Map4PDA isn't voice promted, but it does have up-to-date traffic and that is the perfect combo for me.) Wish there was a program that did both and didn't have any bugs. (Bugs have been the same since I owned a stock 8125 and gone through EVERY ROM on this site.) But so far, the new 3.3 V2 rom is the best working, and fastest to boot!
GPS
I use tomtom 6 navigator software with north america maps on a 2gb and Pharos gps reciever w/ the bluetooth adaptor. tomtom seems to be the best navi progi for me
The Holux Gpslim 236 has a proper on/off switch which allows you to hide the unit in your car somewhere and leave it powered from the car battery or wire it in via the ignition sytem. Most other GPS units have a "soft" on/off button and will need to be switched on manually, apart from the rickaline one which senses the car being started and stopped. Tomtom6 works flawlessly on my xda mini-s and cleans up after being unloaded (no memory leaks).
Regards
Riptos
Is there any freeware for Telenav on the Tilt
than paying $10 per month
like we did on the Mobi Tv & Xm Radio
SPECTEC GPS anyone?
Has enyone tried using the SPECTEC BlueTooth GPS RECEIVER 813 (Mini SD ). Seems to be a pretty good GPS device.
I am interested in buying it. thought I will ask of any experiences.
Upinder
US TMO G3 with
ROM Version 10.1.0.811 WWE
Radio Version 2.25.11
Protocol Versio 4.1.13.12
SINGH Mobile 6 ROM
bt gps
I just got a globalsat bt gps recr for Christmas and it has been great. mine is g33 for around $50 w/ a vent or sticky mount from buygpsnow.com
It has worked pretty well with Delorme Street Atlas plus 2008.