Ive read many post on here and others. I must say Im confused.
Is the new Blue Angel connector physically the same as the previous XDAII connector?
Are the pin outs the same?
Some people say no problem, some are filing theirs down??? Some are "forcing it in" - YIKES
i would love to know as well
The pin outs are the same - the connector is physically the same size, but there is one minor change - there is a little 'step' on one edge of the connector.
XDAII accessories, such as chargers, usb and gps do fit but you need to be careful when you insert them.
Forget my stupidity. I used to own the Siemens SX56 and had hotsync and car charger cables.
The question is now I have the Siemens SX66, is it safe to use the same cables from the SX56? I haven't tried it since I don't want to kill my new toy!
If anyone knows or can verify that it's safe it would be really appreciated.
I am using car charger, usb sync cable and wired gps that were originally bought for my XDA1, then used on XDAII and now work fine on MDAIII.
Do any of the serial keyboards work with XDA IIs?
I tried to connect the stowaway keyboard I used with my XDA II but it does not seem to work with my QTEK 9090.
I'm only guessing, but I would think that the drivers weren't written for wm2003SE.
I have the darfon fold out keyboard that I bought for my sx56, and last night I got it working just fine with my new sx66, so yes, they work. I needed to go to darfon.com and download the newest version of the driver.
I have one of the IR keyboards and the supplied driver works fine, but I have to balance the MDAIII on something to make it high enough for the IR receiver on the keyboard because the MDAIII IR is on the side.
The pin outs are the same
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They are not!!!!!
There is a voltage output from an XDAII when in a call, but the XDA IIs doesn't give the voltage!
Can't remember which pin off the top of my head but I have been testing this and found this to be a major problem when designing a proper car kit for both items!
..Spence
Bit worried about using my incar chrger from my xdaII for my IIs. Does anyone know where I can get a charger or usb sync cheaply for the IIs/pd2k? Expansys are charging £20! There's one here:
http://www.firstphoneshop.co.uk/o2-phone-accessories/o2-imate-pda2k.shtml
But i'm not sure its not just the old II charger...
Hi all,
I see birdog has put piccies up at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18435&highlight=pin+blue+angel
(and thanks btw) but can anyone confirm this pinout?
Cheers!
Related
Hi!
Anyone fonud out until now where to get the 22pin connector for the MDA/XDA III device? It has changed a bit from the iPAQ 3800 style, so accessoires for I/II won´t work
Furthermore, has the pinout changed?
What I need is a cable for connecting my GPS-reciever, or the parts to build one.
Thanks in advance,
Danyel
OH NO, you are saying that the MDA II accessoried, chargers, etc., won't work with the MDA III?
Well, it looks like that...
I have an USB-sync-cable, car charger and my GPS-reciever. Without forcing the plug it won´t fit into the new connector.
The new one has a gab on one side and two little pits wich fit into gaps in the devices connector.
I´ll post a picture of the old and the new one... MDA III´s camera is not quite good for macro-photos.
Well, I have "reconfigured" my old GPS- and USB-cable. It´s just takeing away some of the plastic on the connector. Both cables work fine for the MDA III now, take a look at the picture:
hey folks,
i try my best english!!!!
at dev_dme
i got the qtek2020 from vodafone D2. now i want to plug my usb gps reciever with sirfII chipset to the pda. 5v for the usb power comes from accus. this wouldn't be the problem i think. but how i figure it out which connectors of the pda are the right connectors for die TX and RX of the reciever? and the final question: is this what i want to do (usb pc gps reciever at pda) possible?
if you want t answer me in pm dann auf deutsch ;-)
thanks.
Anonymous said:
is this what i want to do (usb pc gps reciever at pda) possible?
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Therefor you´ll need a USB to serial converter, as far as I know.
if you want t answer me in pm dann auf deutsch ;-)
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22 pin adaptor for QTEK 9090
hi, you need original connector you can try with 2020 22 pin but after some days or week you will damage you QTEK 9090 and you not be able to use anymore the connector! i suggest you to buy ORIGINAL see here available : http://www.bluetrade.fr/achat/produit_details.php?id=76226
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to dev_dme you missunderstood me? i have an usb gps mouse so i need a seriell one. and there are no converter from seriell to usb.
to last guest
i think i posted in fals thread. i have a qtek 2020!!!! no 9090.
There are USB to serial converters made by Iogear, search the web. You would have to redue the cable to connect to your Qtek. But since you have bluetooth, though the old one away and get a blue tooth GPS, much nicer.
converters from usb TO seriell but not from seriell TO usb. i'm right?
The USB driver was on laptop to change the port to a serial port but the communication was bidirectional.
You could also look at maxim semiconductors, I know they make a chip that converts serial to USB but I couldn't find it.
http://www.maxim-ic.com
but i need usb to seriel converter..... i want to use an usb device at a seriell port
They have a device, I saw it in EE Times twice (as I said I need that) that will do exactly what your looking for. It would connect to a USB device, takecare of all the protocal and then spit out serial bits of the data. I beleive the formating (USB-serial bin/ASCII, bit ording) was able to be changed via reg settings.
maybe search EE times website.
aimchr said:
but i need usb to seriel converter..... i want to use an usb device at a seriell port
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Well, your GPS mouse is a USB client (slave). You can only connect it to a USB host (master), which the XDA II is not. So you would need an adapter that contains a USB host. As paulmc says, they seem to exist, but seem to work only with "big" Windows (they need drivers), and I am quite sure they are really expensive.
I really recommend you get either a Bluetooth or a regular serial GPS mouse. Both are easy to connect to an XDA II.
Cheers, Daniel
hello folks,
information for all users they helped me: now i bought a holux gm 210 gps receiver with ps2 connector. it should be one of the best.
but now new questions:
1. is there a german plattform like this in the internet? which one?
2. how can i get 5VDC from a the 12VDC connector in a car? i dont need 4,5 or 6V!!!!
3. who know anythink about the holux gm210 voltage supply (spannungsversorgung). how much V need the gm 210? exactly 5VDC?
thanks
bye Christian
Anonymous said:
but now new questions:
1. is there a german plattform like this in the internet? which one?
2. how can i get 5VDC from a the 12VDC connector in a car? i dont need 4,5 or 6V!!!!
3. who know anythink about the holux gm210 voltage supply (spannungsversorgung). how much V need the gm 210? exactly 5VDC?
thanks
bye Christian
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1. There are several. Try www.pocketnavigation.de for a start.
2. There are voltage regulators you can buy. But be very careful, the voltage in a car is full of spikes and other nasty things. You need a good voltage regulator if you don't want to endanger your new Holux. The usual solution is to buy a holder for the PDA that also has a connector for the GPS mouse. This gives you a well filtered voltage for your mouse.
Cheers, Daniel
tadzio said:
1. There are several. Try www.pocketnavigation.de for a start.
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tadzio said:
2. ....is to buy a holder for the PDA that also has a connector for the GPS mouse. This gives you a well filtered voltage for your mouse....
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maybe its silly but i dont wanna buy i want to build it by myself.
because i want biuld an accu-charger for my qtek too. it should supply the gps mouse too!!!
i cant describe it better in english. damn..... :evil:
also i need thias speciial pda connector for the mdaII (aka qtek 2020). where can i buy it for low?
and some more important for me: i need information for the pins. what pin for which signal?
Does anyone know if the pin-setup for the 'blue angel' aka Qtek9090 is different then the 'Himalaya' aka Qtek2020?
I want to connect an external speaker and microphone to it (described here) but i'm not sure if the pin-layout is the same :roll:
Thanks!
Grtz,
DUTCH
anyone found the pinout for QTEK9090(Blue Angel) yet ?
please share.
Does anyone know where I can buy the plug that plugs into the bottom connector for an XDAIIs?
I've asked everyone I can think of, searched Google, Maplin(UK) and Expansys and I can't find one.
It's probably because I don't know the correct name for it!
Ideally, I'd like one that has all 22 connections and even cables attached - they look really hard to solder onto by hand!
Any information would be greatfully received :lol:
Thanks
...Spence
http://www.gomadic.com/connectors.html sells connectors
Wallaby, Himalaya are compatible with HP iPAQ Connector Plug Assembly (19/22/38/39/41/43/51/54/5500 Series)
but read that the plug of BlueAngel is not exactly the same.
I purchased an XDA II car charger from the O2 shop in Manchester - it came with a plug that works fine with my XDA2s - have used it on the car charger and on the supplied power lead - charges fine.
When I got my IIs, it CAME with the plug already, any standard car charger can plug right into that plug and then the IIs... You sure you guys didn't get it?????
I think you mis-understood me - I'll try again!
I have developed a complete installed car kit for XDA, XDAII and IIs that does the following.
Mutes stereo when in call and puts all sound to front speakers
Can put navigation commands through the stereo
Hooks up to external microphone
Has PS2 (Holux) and RJ11 (TomTom and Leadtek) GPS connections
Charges device
I'm trying to get hold of a connector with 22 connections because I have one problem left.
To switch the car kit on, I either need a 5V feed from the device OR need to be able to put 5V in on one pin and get 5V out of another.
If anyone can help with either the connector or letting me know which pins I might be able to use send me a mail please
Thanks
...Spence
connectors
have you tried RS componets or CPC.?
Hi,
I have a wired GPS solution named Kirrio which has been working fine with my old XDA II.
Ive just recently bought an MDA III (XDA IIs) and was expecting it to be an easy swap.
However it seems that although the connector in the bottom of the PDA looks the same between the two, it has changed.
When I connect the wired GPS cable (which also includes power for the PDA) nothing happens.. the power led doesnt light yellow as is custom on the PDA when its charging, and the GPS doesnt work.
Ive noticed that the MDAIII connector seems to have a small spring thingy in the front of it which match with a slot carved out in the plugs. This is different to the XDA II... but Im not sure if the spring thingy is a small switch or something... and if the wiring is totally different between the two.
Kirrio cant help me.
Anyone have some ideas?
I am using my original Destinator (Leadtek) wired GPS that I got for the XDA, used it on XDAII with no problems and have been using it since last October with no problems on my MDAIII (XDAIIs)
check this
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
Reset key, cradle and cable connector is placed on the low part of the device. The connector is differed from the old device, it means that old cables and cradles can not be used with the new smartphone.
Hello,
I just noticed there are many Mini-USB to 3.5 (or 2.5) audio adapters on sale at e-Bay, like this.
All of them seem to be for Motorola phones, though. Anyone has tried on the TyTN?
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry - but they would have an adapter out soon(ish).
Rich
I can't see why it shouldn't work... it's just £5 so what's the loss if it doesn't...
EDIT: I've bought one today. I'll tell if it works or not....
The port is NOT proprietary. It is a standard mini-USB, and takes standard mini-USB cables.
They tweaked the socket a little bit to go along with their new proprietary headset.
In other words, you can plug in any standard mini-usb cable/accessory, but you can't plug the headset into any standard mini-usb port.
Sorta "dain-bramaged" if you ask me, but since I use a bluetooth headset, it's a non-issue.
Charge and audio simulataneously?
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
There is an alternative to an adapter. As they say on Blue Peter, here's one I made earlier.......
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
I asked htc for an adapter
here ist the answer:
Dear Sir
At present HTC does not manufacture, supply or support such a connection and HTC cannot supply such a diagram.
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Manne said:
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
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Easy answer: get an iPod! :lol:
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry
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If you look at the connector the motorola one has 5 pins across the top of the it. If you look at the Tytn on it has 5 pins across the top and 6 across the bottom. In order to be compatible with current chargers the top 5 pins supply the charging and the bottom 6 supply headset and serial connections.
I do not intend to use the "Line out" function of my TyTN often but it DOES lack an audio output. Sometimes I need to connect the device to speakers and etc.
It should be a modified mini USB port that the TyTN has and that must have saved some space over traditional 2.5mm sockets. We all know 2.5 sockets are not common and you need an apaptor to change it to 3.5mm anyway so prolly HTC gave up on the 2.5 and made the USB standard.
I am pretty sure that some accessory will come out.
Does anyone know if the Ebay adaptor cable will work on the TyTN?
Most of the ebay adapters are standard usb mini for use with the razor etc. These will not work. It needs to be an adapter specifically for the Tytn.
thanks! It is really stupid for HTC not to launch any accessories for the TyTN(or other releases).
Like the Atom Exec has factory cradle kit, battery, silicon cases, leather straps and etc. I don't even know where to get an extra battery!
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
zakeen said:
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
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has anyone tested it?
is it working with tytn ?
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stereo-Audio-Ad...58QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3311QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Anyone used these yet?
Hey guys, i am hoping i missed something really stupid.
But i just bought a few accessories for my TP2.
I bought an extra charger, and an extra USB connection for my Cradle, and an official HTC car charger
All marked as being for the TP2
But they have a standard Mini-USB connection on them, not the wierd little cut off corner connection that is on the underside of my TP2
wht the hell have i forgotten?
is there an adapter i need to buy or summin?
I am thoroughly confused
Thanks for any help
TM411
No they will work fine, for Data and Power transfer normasl mini-usb cables work fine, you only need the EXT-USB connector (the cut off one) for video and sound transfer (headphones etc.)
Excellent,
Thankyou very much
It' s kind of strange, isn't it. But all mini usb connectors will fit.