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Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
paperuccio said:
Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.
Had the same issue with the Parrot. My Plantronics headset works a treat, but not the Parrot.
I mailed the author who confirmed there are some problems and a new release will be needed.
As the author is doing this work unpaid and the functionality is so good, I can wait.
@ mrg2003
I send an e-mail some days ago but still had no response.
Anyway, I agree with IanF and I'll wait for the new release.
I wish I read this bulletin board more often.
Yes, I have exactly the same problem with the CK3000 (v3.13) and PBT. HBH-35 works a treat but CK3000 does not bond (XDA thinks it does but there is no handshaking and CK3000 repeats request to bond).
Back to basics again ...
Incidentally, does anyone know if Tobias plans to engineer a way to trigger Voice Command and take input from the car microphone for voice recognition? Would be the dogs and well worth a major donation ....
Cheers
I've had some problems with pocket bluetooth. I have emailed tobias as follows and am awaiting a reply. Was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems:
Tobias,
Thanks for all the hard work in getting these tools working. I have just bought an XDAII with the latest 1.60.00 ROM using the 1.10.00 radio version.
At the same time, I have a WIDCOMM bluetooth dongle on my PC which supports numerous profiles including the headset profile, which allows me to use the PC's speakers and mic as a 'headset' with the XDAII.
I set up the XDAII with the PC, using the built-in bluetooth bonding and pairing application and managed to get it all working fine with the PC using the speakers and the mic as the headset, with the phone automatically transferring the call to the PC when the 'Bluetooth Headset mode is enabled' shows on the today screen. Furthermore, activesync also seems to work fine too.
After installing Pocket Bluetooth Tools, the headset stops working. Before installing it, I unpaired the device by deleting it from the list of paired devices. After installation and going through the process of pairing the device again, it correctly gives me the option to choose the Serial Port, ActiveSync, Modem, and Headset profile. I select all of these and click on OK. Once this happens, my PC gives me a message saying that the XDAII has connected with the headset. However, this doesn’t happen once but goes into a continuous loop giving me notifications every 2-3 seconds that this is the case. Furthermore, when making a call to see if the voice has been transferred to the PC< this stops working and the XDAII's speaker and mic continue to be used. The only way to stop the constant loop of connections is to switch off the bluetooth radio on the XDAII. Furthermore, when deleting the pairing from the XDAII this constant loop continues.
Have you faced this issue previously, as I think it may be a bug. The only reason I installed pocket Bluetooth is that my current b.tooth headset is a Nokia HDW-30 that supports the handsfree profile and your documentation states that Pocket Bluetooth tools supports this profile.
Let me know if there is a fix for this.
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.[/quote]
maybe just because he doesn't answer
i wrote a very long report some days after the long awaited new version came out in april, but haven't got any reply. (maybe my email got lost - who knows ...)
i have exactly the same problems. i also have a parrot ck3000 (tried with firmware 3.11 and 3.13) and an mda2 with rom 1.6.00GER and extROM 1.60.07. the two devices pair, and sometime i can even select the "headphone profile" afterwards. i even managed to make it work ONCE, after several hours, of installing, reinstalling, pairing, reparing, ect, ect ...
what did work once was making calls. but after the first call came in, i could answer it, the caller could hear me, but i couldn't hear anything. this happened twice and then i just turned off bt and used the mobile as always.
as i'm using my mda in my car for work and not for fun this is no solution for me . i went back to the original bt stack that works quite well. i can make and take calls w/o any problems.
one thing i'd like to see changed (as soon as parrot and mda work together) is, that ALL calls are made via the handsfree, as, as long i'm in the car it HAVE TO use the handsfree by law (and it's much more comfortable anyway). it's not practicle to dial with the mobile, and then by pressing the green button on the parrot to move the call to the handsfree. but that's the only way you can do it when using speeddial.
another thing i desperately miss is a way to change the volume of the handsfree. i could do this using the volume slider of my nokia 6310, but volume stays all the same when using the mda. and it's just too low when doing higher speeds on the autobahn
of course voice dialing would be a great feature to have ... but it's not that necessary.
please don't get me wrong .. i'm don't want to be ungrateful as i'm not paying for this software - i just want to help ppl by saying that they are not alone with their problem and they should give up wasting their time and better wait for a new release....
and of course i'm very willing to PAY for that software as well as soon as it is any improvement over the original bt stack (for me of course. for most of you it already is)
maybe TOWA could say some words here. that would be really appreciated.
thanks anyway a lot to all ppl that spend their free time developing software and providing it to the comunity!!! thumbs up !
regards ize|man
Bluetooth tools and ROM 1.72
Does ROM version 1.72 require TOWA's bluetooth tools? In this ROM, there are options for COM port selection etc under Bluetooth settings and the clubimate site mentions bluetooth improvements. Anyone with this info?
other com settings then
Inbound COM port com4
outbound COM port com5
??
if so what are they?
Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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These are the ports for BT beaming, as I understand! (not for BT GPS).
For BT GPS you do not specifically need BTHTools anymore (since 1.66) because WM can install a BT GPS com at first bonding.
Something is different however (vs BTHTools) since with 1 application (Alturion) I can not get the BT GPS working anymore, which can also not be solved by still installing BTHTools!! (while I have no problems with my other application TT. Figure that out?!)
Ronald
I now have the same problem, the parrot ck3000 was working until I insatlle dthe bluetooth tools, and now it doesn't.
Its a shame I did not see this thread before
Will the 1.72 rom work with both parrot and my emtac bluetooth gps?
Cheers
Justinp
justinp
have you tried uninstalling Bluetoothtools?
no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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I think it will still work!
With my working application (TT3) I see the GPS on COM5 (installed by WM) + on COM7 (installed by BTHTools) + on the BT/SIRF interface!
If I uninstall BTHTools I only loose the selection for COM7. The other two selections still work!
Of course you must have acknowledged the WM com installation with first bonding (in any case for the serial operation)! My BT/SIRF connection always works in TT3 regardless of WM/BTHTools installation of serial ports.
Ronald
I'm also having that strange problem with the parrot CK3000. I did install the previous version of BT but I don't see any difference with or without BT. But when I de-install and want to go back to the original state, the same problem persist. Is there any way to download anyware the original Bluetooth stack without re-install everything (and loosing all my settings and software)?
Thanks for helping out.
Frank.
Has anyone succeeded in a combination of these two with the Blue Angel device ?
If so, is the audio from the gps software also routed to your car stereo ? What bluetooth protocol would support this ? The parrot carkit supports both the Bluetooth Headset and Handsfree profile.
I think in the end, this would be the best future proof solution : buy a standard pda mount for the Blue Angel and share the parrot carkit between all bluetooth devices present in the car.
Any comments would be welcome !
Kristof
Ok,
I did a little bit of bluetooth research : in order to have MP3 playback using bluetooth, the device must support the bluetooth A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution profile) profile. The A2DP profile was included in BT 1.2 spec.
I've read the thread on the HP MP3 headphones, and there they have a patch that will install the A2DP profile, though I'm not certain whether it is a HP specific implementation.
Some other interesting threads on this subject :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12549
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7679
So I expect that sooner or later there is going to be a firmware upgrade or bluetooth stack upgrade from Broadcomm that includes this profile.
The next step would be the parrot : for what I know, it does not support the A2DP profile. I asked their sales department if they have any future products / firmware upgrades that will support this profile.
So once you enter your car, you would have to enable 3 (!) bluetooth connections :
Bluetooth headset profile -> mobile phone handsfree communication
Bluetooth A2DP profile -> regular audio coming from the device
Bluetooth Serial profile -> connection to gps
With all the bluetooth instabilities with the current protocol stack, I wonder if these three at the same time would ever be realistic. Does bluetooth support this kind of bandwith anyways ?
I have a Orange M2000 with the Parrott CK3300 (it has built in bluetooth GPS)- The bluetooth handsfree works fine as long as you update the handsfree kit to the latest firmware. Also you have to pair as a Windows CE device for it to connect whenever you get in the car.
The bluetooth GPS does work but I find I usually have to do a soft-reset and then launch tom tom which then connects to the GPS without a problem.
You do loose the GPS connection when you make or recieve a phone call, I'm not sure if this is a limitation of the handsfree kit or the M2000 though, I've only had if for 2 weeks so I'm still experimenting with it!
Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
Thanks
Jon
Works perfectly with my MR Handsfree headset. Until now I could not get it working in handsfree mode. With WM2005 it is working.
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
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Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
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I have Ericsson's HBH-65 and WM2005 uses it as Headset only. It doesn't even call-back when I press headset button :-(((((((
Motorola HS-850...
I have a Motorola HS-850 and it works perfectly with WM2005 in Handsfree mode.
Now if I can just get it to voicedial via bluetooth...
Jabra BT250 here and Handsfree works great!!!
WM2005 is the only OS that I have had where my Jabra does what i want it to do.
Craig.
The crux is can you activate your phone through your BT headset to call any number?
No good in a BMW
I loaded 2005 and tried to pair it with my BMW, although the pairing went well and the hands free profile was selected, its no better than Sins 2003 rom.
The microphone in the car doesnt work, the speakers do. The microphone on the phone is the active one. It wont connect a call unless you try twice and you have to answer call twice before they connect.
Bugger
Jon
In the devices list, tap and hold the car kit, and select handsfree, see if this helps.
Voice dialling
The thing I find most surprising with WM2005 (and the previous versions for PPC) is the lack of hands free/car kit voice dialling. That is one thing the P910 has over WM2005 phones that emphasises that full convergence has not happened in the mind of developers... the PPC is a PDA with phone connectivity, whereas the Symbian system has taken the approach that its a phone first and foremost. With the simple addition of hands free voice dialling, WM2005 could be the first really convergent OS.
(I'm kinda hoping someone will say they have a perfect voice-dialling system in place for the XDAII with WM2005, in which case I'll gladly eat my words)
I am still very grateful for ALL those here who have helped deliver three OS upgrades to my XDA in the space of 18 months!!!
Some people are using Microsoft Voice command with Magneto and they reported it to work well.
Cheers
Pat
List of working WM2005 programs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20727
scooter said:
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
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ditto with Merc 2003 E class.
same old problem with handsfree
i also have the Motorolla HS850 and though it did work for a while it seems to be back to mic and speaker working on the device and only speaker on the headset!
so though you can hear the call on the headset the mic dosn't work but the mic on the device is active as is the speaker
has anyone else had this with 2005?
have hard reset and re loaded 2005 but without success
hmm its working again.....
this is wierd!
headset battery was low yesterday so it may be to do with that. will keep checking and see if i can spot a pattern
Hello all,
I was just curious. Im considering purchasing an external bluetooth GPS receiver and running TomTom on my device when im driving.
I also currently use a bluetooth handsfree device.
Am i able to use both bluetooth devices?
I have no problems connection a bluetooth GPS (Holux 236) and a handsfree device (Nokia HS12W) together (and using them at the same time).
HTC branded TYTN.
Only downside might be in the way the applications address the display. Nokia Smart2Go doesn't seem to like the phone application interrupting it... (it works, but phone application doesn't show)
Jörg
V J said:
I have no problems connection a bluetooth GPS (Holux 236) and a handsfree device (Nokia HS12W) together (and using them at the same time).
HTC branded TYTN.
Only downside might be in the way the applications address the display. Nokia Smart2Go doesn't seem to like the phone application interrupting it... (it works, but phone application doesn't show)
Jörg
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TomTom works fine with the phone.
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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Pairing a Hermes with a Bluetooth Car Kit is certainly possible, and indeed routine. I have successfully paired with my two Ford cars, with a variety of WM5, WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs.
I merely followed the usual steps to set up a partnership, and ensured that the partnership was set as 'Hands Free' on the final page of the setup process.
So my experience is - no dramas, and I can't see why you are having problems. The car is, after all, just acting as a Bluetooth headset.
Transfer of contacts to your Car Kit is a bit more problamatical, as you have to set up Bluetooth Sim Access Protocol (BT SAP), to give the car, as it says, access to your sim card.
Hi and thanks for the response.
I have no problem pairing the hermes and it reads all my contact information and does everything I would expect save for the sound; I don't get any sound from the cars speakers and yet it all works perfectly with other makes/models of phone/pda.
I suppose the problem would be easier to solve if none of it worked but it does. I watch the car screen as it tells me I am making a phone call from my address book and I can see calls coming in but I cannot use the microphone on the PDA nor hear anything via the pda or the car's speakers. The XDA Exec (WM6) Nokia 5300 and XDAIIi (WM2003) work flawlessly (I borrowed those from my friends).
Thanks once again.
291 said:
I have searched across all the forums and have noted that the Hermes does not pair with a Cars built in blue-tooth radio allowing sound through the built-in speakers.
Does anyone have an update to this issue or is it just a case that WM6/Hermes and integral vehicle bluetooth simply do not work.
I have tried upteen ROM updates to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. BTW I have paired the brand new car (Fiat) successfully with a Nokia 5300, XDA Exec (WM6.1) and XDA IIi (WM2003)
Thank you all in anticipation.
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291,
I've had the same problem...
But found this program... From JetWare Mobile - Its not free but there's a trial period to at least see if this fixes your problem...
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Now My bluetooth on phone and car works flawlessly, including: Music connection (can play Mp3's from phone and contacts loaded to the car stereo) I was even able to get Voice Commander to work through the car stereo but could not get announcements to work (a known issue with VC 1.6)
Look at this post, may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871&highlight=75BT
Hermes with RT4 system
I have got th esame problems with my hermes and my Jumpy with RT4 and bluetooth connection. I can drive my hermes, make a call by the way of the RT4 but speakers and mic are out. The only solutions to make them working is to make call by my hermes ans after RT4 working good and for and incoming call, accept it by the way of my Hermes. With this solution, I can ear ans speak unsing bluetooth system. If some one can help me, thank a lot...