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Hi
Can anybody confirm if sound is wired into the main connector, I currently plug into the headphone / microphone jack plug to get TomTom sounds in the car, but it would be much more convenient to insert just one connector instead of two.
Has the connector wiring diagram been published anywhere?
Cheers
Justin
oops
I have just found it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
Justin
Good luck!
Hi
The wiring diagram from
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors is incorrect for the Himalya.
I only managed to get sound from one channel, and grounding pin 19 did not switch off the internal speaker.
Does anybody know of another source of the pinout for the connector.
I could buy a http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108730 but that seems expensive.
Cheers
Justin
Justin,
More than one source confirmed the pinout of the connector is correct for the Himalaya.
Are you sure you did not get thing wrong?
Maybe some other threads (key word "carkit" or "car kit") are of interest for you.
YES sound is fed to the bottom connector
BUT dependent of who you speak with (ie which rom theyre using):
- all sound (both in-call phone and pda)
- in-call phone only
Unfortunately my carkit (O2 XDA II as sold by Expansys) only let me hear in-call phone sound. My rom is the T-Mobile 1.60.00 (1.60.36 ext rom).
Hi edsub
After posting I read about the problem with sound only comming out of the bottom connector when In a call, I didn't try this. Hopefully a later ROM will fix this issue. Until then I will use the headset jack plug.
Cheers
Justin
justinp said:
I only managed to get sound from one channel
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I have the same problem with the original CarKit of the XDA I.
So this could be a general problem....
Stefan
I used to have stereo from the bottomconnector from my XDA 1, but not from my MDA 2...
As far as imknow Edsub is correct, only in-call audio works for now with most ROM's...
Getting all-audio through the speakers seems to be a rare story...
@johan: It sure is a rare story. Especially from the stories that seem to imply that one it getting all sound thru the bottom connector, I only got feedback from one person that claimed this was the case for rom 1.60.00 in combination with the T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
Which makes it even stranger because that same rom is the one I am using (and only having in-call phone audio) . . .
:?:
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@johan: It sure is a rare story. Especially from the stories that seem to imply that one it getting all sound thru the bottom connector, I only got feedback from one person that claimed this was the case for rom 1.60.00 in combination with the T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
Which makes it even stranger because that same rom is the one I am using (and only having in-call phone audio) . . .
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Rare (Eng.) = Zeldzaam (NL.) :roll:
I only read one story of a guy who said Tomtom work through the speaker, i'm afraid the was another mixup about waht speaker. The internal one or not....
According to Mocki on www.ppc-welt.info two pins are important:
pin19 should be grounded
pin9 should be UNconnected
This situation makes the T-Mobile carkit behave like wished:
When there is sound output (no matter what source):
1. radio is muted
2. sound goes via bottom connector to carkit-speakers (or car-audio line-in)
Does anyone know how pin 9 is connected inside the O2 XDAII carkit???
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Hi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors just gives me XML/XSL errors, and I cant speak German - really could do with a wiring diagram for the bottom connector.
I have Carcomm car cradles, Nokia Bluetooth car kits (kinda of works now) and a very neat bluetooth head set. I want the cradle to send audio to an aux input on the car stereo so I can play MP3's from the 512 SD card I just got!!
I can drill a hole in the bottom of the carcomm and attach a 3.5mm jack but it would be much better if I could use the connector
Ta!!
Re: Help - can see any of it!
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors just gives me XML/XSL errors, and I cant speak German - really could do with a wiring diagram for the bottom connector.
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If you use an other browser than the Internet Explorer (e g. Mozilla) you ´ll be able to see the page....
I made 2 Screenshots of the important part. Hope it helps you....
HTH
Stefan
Wiring for bottom connector
Hii
Thanks for that - something to do this weekend now!!
:lol:
JB
Hi
If that works it will be great, I'm not going to try it until someone else confirms it works as I need to get a hardware guy to do the soldering for me.
So if any of you are going to try it, please remember to post back here.
Cheers
JustinP
Anyone got one of these ?
How do you rate it?
Are they any good?
Seen them for sale on ebay at a very good price considering what you get with them.
Powered PDA Mount for XDA III
FOR
XDA III aka XDA 2S
imate PDA2K
Included in all packages:
1 Powered PDA Mount Cradle
1 9" Windshield Swivel Pedestal
1 XDA III charging and data serial cable
1 3' Bluetooth GPS charging cable
More info here http://www.arkon.com/bluetoothgps.html#xdaiii-bt
if you dont already have a seperate GPS receiver then this one is good:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
a friend has one and it works great. everything in one unit.
However i have had warning from someone saying the GPS signal is interupted if you have a heated windscreen, due to the wires. my mates works great tho.
HPJ
(i should get commission for the amount of time i've recommended this unit!!!!!!!)
The link you posted doesnt appear to be compatible with the blue angel series.
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/viewprod.php?product_id=2545&max_cat_id=14&vt=grid
This product does support the blue angel, however, I've heard mixed reports about how well it operates while the phone is changing nodes.
Cheers
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The link you posted doesnt appear to be compatible with the blue angel series.
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Yes I thought that so i gave them a call to ask.......the person on the phone said it is compatible with blue angel.....however as in all similar situations always good to keep box and receipt if purchasing and advice is wrong..... :wink:
Fair enough!!
I stand happily corrected. they're in glasgow so might swing past today and pick one up!
cool...let us know how you get on if you do get one
HPJ
Anyone got one of these ?
How do you rate it?
Are they any good?
Seen them for sale on ebay at a very good price considering what you get with them.
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I am biased but ....
Have a look at www.brodit.com - find this product '849612'
Then find a bracket to mount this in your car.
May be more expensive but won't look out of place!
You can use your existing cable to charge the PDA in the car.
When I've finished developing my car kit connection cable, you can then have full hands free car kit including wired GPS, power, mic, sound of phone and nav through the car speakers - just plug my cable into the bottom of this holder and connect it to the car kit!
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hi s93ncer,
how you planning on getting sound from phone and nav out of your car speakers?
yes I agree, brodit is an excellent choice for cradles
Best Buy in the US sells an RF modulator that will take a standard audio in and transmit to an FM car radio. All you have to do is wire it into the bottom connector of the phone.
how you planning on getting sound from phone and nav out of your car speakers?
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I'm nearly there, just 1 little thing to sort out this morning.
I have tested it and it does work with phone and nav audio - just used the pin outs for speakers and connect pin 19 to ground through a 10K resistor
I'll post more information when I have finished testing.
...Spence
paulmc said:
Best Buy in the US sells an RF modulator that will take a standard audio in and transmit to an FM car radio. All you have to do is wire it into the bottom connector of the phone.
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IMO, RF modulators are pretty crappy. The audio is mediocre at best and the frequency tends to drift so you're constantly needing to retune.
If you have a stereo that has a plug on the back for controlling a CD changer (most OEM stereos have this nowdays), you can most likely find an adapter that will let you add aux audio-in to your car stereo. I bought one from www.blitzsafe.com for my Toyota Celica. I used this to hook up the audio from a computer that I installed in the car.
This one is good, to ne honest the speaker on the XDA2s is loud enough and if using bluetooth (as most XDA 2 users do) then this mount may be better:
http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=23
Just ordered this:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
Should be here next week......I'll let y'all know!
HPJ
There is so much wrong with this product I cant even begin..
1) The vent mounts are useless. They can barely support the weight of the unit on its own. Once the PDA is in it then you can forget trying to get it to face any direction other than down. It just rattles around. I have tried it in my merecedes, a VW golf and an Audi A4 so it's nothing to do with my vents either.
2) The speaker on the powered unit picks up all kinds of crackles and noise. If I make or receive a phone call the noise it makes is unbelievable. Basically I have to keep the speaker turned to the lowest voulme (there is no off switch) the whole time and even then I can still hear a really annoying sound when I use the phone. (You know the sound I mean, it's the one you sometimes get if your phone is near unsheilded speakers just before it's about to ring).
3) The cable that connects the PDA headphone socket to the mount unit does not work. If is is fully plugged in there is no sound at all. If I pull it out slightly the sound works but then it cuts off the external microphone on my PDA so I cant use the voice command/voice dial options.
4) When I plug the charge cable into the bottom of the PDA the PDA tries to connect to a host via ActiveSync...there isn't one there of course so ActiveSync just hangs if I don't hit cancel in time. This does not happen if I use my normal charge cable.
Ozy...are you refering to the powered GPS mount that I have ordered (see above) from Holux, through Total PDA?? I hope not....
However it does sound as though maybe you've just got a faulty one...try sending it back...??
HPJ
No. I am refering to the original Arkon product in the title of the thread.
I suspect it may indeed be faulty but to an extent that ruins any confidence I may have had in Arkon's products. I will be sending it back and I will try to get a Brodit or something else instead.
Cheers.
Actually, I quite liked the look of that Holux but there is no indication if it works with the Blue Angel.
Looks like Holux do one for the Blue Angel available from HandNav :
http://www.handnav.co.uk/product_details.php?id=308
Only £99 inluding VAT and delivery.
Might give that a go.
The Arkon mount was never meant to be used with gsm phones, they just added a lead and hoped for the best when used with xda etc, it is an atrocious piece of kit, I launched mine out on the road when driving on the M5, if anybody in the factory had tested it they would have known right away that it wasnt fit for the purpose, regardless of that they are still selling it as compatable, it is also a great bulky lummox of a thing and looked much better bouncing down the hard shoulder.
ozymandias said:
Actually, I quite liked the look of that Holux but there is no indication if it works with the Blue Angel.
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I thought that, and called them. It works fine apparently...I'll let u know when it arrives
HPJ
Hi all,
I've not got my Hermes variant yet, but would like to ask if anyone plans on using this device in the car for example; with the need to charge AND have audio out going to the car speakers.
Since there is only one connector for both charging and audio, is there some sort of 'Y' cable that 'separates' the two connections?
Thanks.
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
esackbauer said:
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
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Yes, I remember seeing that one...
I would have thought more people may have wanted such an adapter- but obviously not. This is something I would use in my car all the time.
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
To view and buy all Xda Brodit cradles and proclips, visit my site www.dsldevelopments.com
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You should really fix your site to work with Firefox. It gives the error
Code:
Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Library
The plug-in performed an illegal operation. You are strongly advised to restart Firefox
with Firefox 1.5.0.6 with Noscript 1.1.4.1
Well I think it may be your fault because I've never seen the error before and it is reproduceable.
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
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Would these parrot kits route the [musical] audio from my device to the car speakers then? I dont really need a BT carkit since I always have my personal BT handsfree on. My main requirements are those as listed in my original post.
Thanks Ill pass on the notes to the web guy, i use firefox and IE and works fine, is it the How it Works video?
No, it wont route music through your car, not that I have found yet,
You'd need it to support A2DP to play music too. As far as I know there's no headphone support only headset. At least it's only headset on mine.
The Parrot kits and the TyTn
To Bryson:
I have a CK 3000 that has worked fine with all of my phones. However, according to a different thread there seems unfortunately to be a problem with the Tytn and some (all?) of the Parrot kits.
Hi,
Ive yet to test parrot gear with a tytn / hermes etc - nhave you been over to the parrot forums to see if anyone has posted regarding this issue there?
Sorry i cant be of more help,
Bryson!
My parrot works sweelty with my Tytn and my Strtrk. I have the CK3000 unit too.
Y cable wanted!
I want a Y cable too!
Split into audio out, mic in, charge.
Preferably in a brodit carholder!
I'm sure someone can make this, now the phone is sold in Japan, lot's of japanese will want to use their own headsets, so I hope they will invent some nice cables
Im also looking for this same adaptor, so I can charge the device in the car while the adioo output can be used for satnav.
Anyone know of such an adaptor ? (Y cable)
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
grayhaze said:
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
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Ah nice one, I knew this would be something people would want. But why HTC couldn't integrate this on the device in the first place still baffles me!
This is only my humble opinion.
When I first knew that the TyTn, followed by the next coming other HTC's PPCs (Trinity. Artemis), would not have the regular audio port anymore (Regardless the size, 2.5 mm or 3.5 mm), I was thinking they must be really stupid by taking that away. Since my first PPC, I have been always plug the audio/sound to my car stereo for MP3 and phone calls.
Then I tried to think about the logic, why would they take it away, they must have reasons, being such a high tech company. The most logical reason I can think of, they might want to design a good car kit /desktop cradle for it. Thus, by combining the audio port and the USB sync/charging port, they can create a cradle/car kit that would only have one connector to the PPC, instead of two connections/jacks: the USB and the audio pin. That might be a good idea, same idea like the earlier versions of the PPC, like Wallaby that had the serial connector that can be used for synching, charging, GPS, and audio input/output as well, all in the same connector.
But looking at the connector they made, the one posted above in the expansys, I'm kind of LOL really. 2 USB output, one for power, one for audio? Ha ha ha..
They /any third party, should have design a car cradle and a desktop cradle that not only have a regular USB for sync/power, but also just map out also the audio output to a regular 3.5 mm normal audio connection. And that cradle will be really useful and I would think many ppl will buy it. And for a plus side, just add a GPS module in the same car cradle unit, than its perfect solution.
Just my humble opinion...
Yes, I agree with the above post, what we now need is for someone to design both a desktop and car cradle, where it would have the 11pin, to which one would dock the device and the 5 & 6 pin on the underside.
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
sh500 said:
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
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That means we'll also need an USB A<->B adaptor.... Hmmmmmm.......
Hi! I came across the following car kit on ebay;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130053711622&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003
Does anyone have any experience with it? I'm very interested to know if it has an integrated microphone (not very important).
Mostly, i'm asking if it has any audio out(from the pictures, it seems like there is one), so that i can connect it to my handsfree, or even better to my car stereo and to an external microphone (maybe by hacking my present handsfree)
Thanks in advance!!!
I have that one and i got it a lot cheaper than that at
http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=125
it does have a speaker that is great for TOMTOM or similiar programs very load with it in would not recomend as a hands free kit as echo feeds back
I've been looking for this for a while now in Canada or US...
eddieitman said:
I have that one and i got it a lot cheaper than that at
http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=125
it does have a speaker that is great for TOMTOM or similiar programs very load with it in would not recomend as a hands free kit as echo feeds back
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I think they are not the same!!! The one you show, comes with 3 options for mounting(in conrast to 1 option for the one i linked), and it seems similar to the one found in many ebay stores(and web stores), advertised as TOMTOM mount!
Anyway, microphone is not a problem form me, since i'm planning to mod it and connect an external microphone andalso my car stereo for audio output. This way, i'll have a car handsfree kit, and play music through my Wizard!
Will the 8125 fit in this? The site doesn't specifically say that it will, so I'd rather ask before I buy. If anyone can answer that I'd really appreciate it.
I bought one, and it's a great mount. The speakers broke on mine though.
I bought it also, and i'm planning to mod it. I'll replace the fitted 2.5 mm jack(2 rings-3 contacts) with one taken off my handsfree (2.5mm 3 rings-4 contacts). Then, I'll have outputs for microphone (propably also for volume control & answer button) and for audio to connect a powered FM Transmitter!
Does this sound good! I'll start in some days, and i'll try to post images of the process
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Will the 8125 fit in this? The site doesn't specifically say that it will, so I'd rather ask before I buy. If anyone can answer that I'd really appreciate it.
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www.seidioonline.com
can anyone confirm if you can buy or make a 3.5mm stubby aerial for the hd? as i dont want to have to use the headphones to get radio reception. my reason for this is i want to recieve TMC signals but not using my headphones built in antenna. cheers
I'd like to know this as well, but usually when this question gets asked for different phones you mainly get people asking why you want to, and repeating what you already know about the heaphones normally being the antenna.
Good luck finding out - I hope you find a useful solution.
Yes, I just put a 3.5 - 6.3 adapter without any other cables and it worked just fine.
The quality of the reception was better, maybe because there is no torsions because of the cable... ?
(Sorry for my bad english, I'm belgian...)
i had a quick play with a old chopped headphone cable, seemed to work just fine. Made the cable about 6 inches - but after reading about the 3.4mm-6.5mm adaptor this may be overkill.
Just for reference - putting the stylus into the hole doesn't work either.
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Just for reference - putting the stylus into the hole doesn't work either.
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well, it was worth a go
Not sure what exactly a 6.5mm cable is (sorry if I'm being thick!).
So with an old headphone 3.5mm plug with 6inches of cable you can use the radio ok then?
Can you get it out of the speaker like this? I guess the answer is yes because if you have a 6" long chopped up headphone cable in place you can't use headphones!
3.5mm jack
I think think the guy is on about one fo these
i think i have one around the house so will test it when i find it.
Peace
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well, it was worth a go
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Actually - it DID "sort of" work - the radio software registered that an aerial was connected and allowed the radio to search the airwaves.... it just didn't find anything!
Not a usable solution though - I had to exert some (light) pressure on the upper end of the stylus so that the end that was inside the 3.5mm socket was pushed against the actual terminal.
antonyand said:
I think think the guy is on about one fo these
i think i have one around the house so will test it when i find it.
Peace
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Ahh I see.
Hmmm, I have one the opposite way around but not that
Still, I have some knackered headphones I could strip down for the plug and then experiment from there.
Are there not any registry changes needed to go with this at all?
I'm using this one:
http://cgi.ebay.de/TMC-Stab-Antenne...14&_trkparms=72:1229|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Does it work ok by itself?
I'd love to buy one of those but I can't find any on Ebay in English and although that auction list great britain for shipping it's 22EUR for the shipping for a tiny antenna!!!
Does anyone know how I can buy one of these please? Thanks if you can help!
How can you recieve TMC and will it work with Navigon that is installed on my HD.
Sully
leper04 said:
I'm using this one:
http://cgi.ebay.de/TMC-Stab-Antenne...14&_trkparms=72:1229|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
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Any feedback.
How is reception?
does this really work? I would have expected that as soon as the dummy headphones were used all sound from the phone's speaker would stop. this would make sat nav a little useless.
I know it works with the radio application as there is an option to turn sound to headphones off and play sound through the units speaker instead.
The reception is excellent, RDS works well. Obviously, You'll have to listen to the radio through the built-in speaker, since the 3,5" jack is used by the antenna
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The reception is excellent, RDS works well. Obviously, You'll have to listen to the radio through the built-in speaker, since the 3,5" jack is used by the antenna
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Can you confirm in works with navigon? Would love to get TMC traffic working on my touch HD while still hearing the spoken directions.
There's no TMC receiver in the touch HD, only the good old-fashioned GPS. For TMC You'll need a separate TMC receiver - a friend of mine uses the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-Y, it works well with navigon.
Cret said:
Does it work ok by itself?
I'd love to buy one of those but I can't find any on Ebay in English and although that auction list great britain for shipping it's 22EUR for the shipping for a tiny antenna!!!
Does anyone know how I can buy one of these please? Thanks if you can help!
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TMC-TRAFFIC-REPORT-ANTENNA-for-Medion-MD-96173-96080_W0QQitemZ270371122334QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_LaptopAccessories_RL?hash=item270371122334&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50