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Hi ALL
I been reading through all the post for the past week or so.. and contemplating upgrading to WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG on my 02 XDA .
I check out ROMkitchen and created my ROM but I deselected all additional software I Just wanted the bare bone WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG. I have not installed it yet. (BIG THANKS TO XDA-developers )
some users posted that they had good and bad experience with WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 . The reason why i created this topic is to collate disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG (due to not final version if I'm correct).
I check here and the Enhancements are damn good which should of been support by PPC 2002 Phone Edition .
a) Can user posted disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG i.e. annoying bugs http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1945
b) What's your personnel percentage based on WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG? i.e. User ability
c) Will you port back to PPC 2002 ? i.e. WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 Stability dose not meet my needs
Share your thoughts and experience please if possible
Well to be honest with you so far the device and the WM2003 are very stable together.
I am using QTEK 32MB with ROM 4.00.05 and i can assure you that the speed is even better and the performance is great.
Now that doesnt mean its bug free there are still some small problems here and there as any normal ROM.
My advice upgrade it... and then you will see that you will like it allot you wont downgrade.
By the way "Test Not for Sale" screen when reseting the device is great lol 8)
Frankly, my experience with my 02 hasn't been all that stellar. i do get some slowdowns, but i don't think i can go back to SER1.2's smsing... smsing in the new os is spectacular, well worth the other drawbacks.
my 2 cents
I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
Has anyone else noticed this? It happened also when I was using the 4.00.01 ROM.
GregP74 said:
I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
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This is the SIM Toolkit. If you can still boot, simply remove the stk.lnk file from \Windows\Startup. Otherwise create a new ROM in the kitchen: I added the option to not include that link earlier today.
Sweet. Just took out the stk link.
So far this ROM seems pretty stable. I'm still having some issues with the SD card though.
It seems if I remove the card and add files with my card reader, then put it back in the phone, it's not seeing the changes.
4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
I have a fairly vanilla ROMKitchen 4.00.05.
The SIM toolkit is annoying (empty dialog) that pops up after a soft reset.
4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
I'm not going to bother going back to .01, but I won't bother updating any more devices to .05 if they already have .01.
..lance
Re: 4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
lgingell said:
4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
..lance
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Are you on T-mobile ? The whole GPRS network seems very unreliable since Saturday afternoon - I had problems in CO, then CA on Tuesday (though late morning was fine) and again today in CO. My machine ROM is unchanged in the last 10 days.
Hi All :lol:
First of all thanks to the XDA-developers for the ROMkitchen it is a very nice tool, Job well done!! , and also to Jeff for keep updating the site for the ROMkitchen, I Upgraded my XDA from the Jeff's ROMkitchen from XDA-developer ser 1.2 to 4.00.05 En, but i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not, and also i can not find from the previous menu, phone->tools->option->more, which enables the answer after 3 calls and lock all button except the power key. and also when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
And also can Jeff include the Software MyInfo and MyCalendar from JGUI to make the WM2003 looks good... thanks in advance. here is the site
www.jgui.net
My Unit Now is
4.00.05 EN
4.21 Radio stack
32S54
MorePower to XDA-Developers :!: :!: :!:
rpc said:
But i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not
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Confirmed: we see that too. Annoying. But fortunately the 'Answer' on the screen always works, otherwise 4.00.05 would be unusable.
when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
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EasyTweak does all sorts of PPC2002-related registry tweaks. You can't really expect it to be very useful on new OS versions. I've set it to 'PPC2002 only' in the kitchen.
Hi,
I tried the 4.00.01 and got many bugs ... (bad reception ...)
Yesterday I put the 4.00.05 and all seems going well. Good GSM reception and for the moment no problem.
Thx to Jeff and his kitchen
does anyone know if and when the new windows mobile 2003 se be out? the one which enables you to go to landscape mode? and is this rom based on the old versions?
cheers
rob
there is somebody asking that question every month or so
some people say oct 2004
but nobody know official as far as i know
and is this rom based on the old versions
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not really sure what you mean by that
if you mean if it's based on the whole new windows CE v5 then no it's
SE as in second edition
so it's just the second edition of wm2003 which is based on windows CE 4 or 3 i forget
To the Moderator...
It was suggested, after the last such post like this, for about the ten thousandth time, that it might be worthwhile making it STICKY, that win2003se is NOT OUT YET etc.
If this wasn't done, can I re-suggest it now Peter?
Before all going crazy... about WM2003SE for the QTK2020
Yes it exist,
No it is not avalaible...
And the worse still to come :
it require a valid licence and ACTIVATION...
Bad time is coming....
big brother is on the move ?
Robson said:
the one which enables you to go to landscape mode
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What do you people have against Nyditot Virtual Display?! I've been using it for years in my MDA - 640x480 landscape - just a little work with fonts and cleartype + undock keyboard and you basically have comfort of PC screen! You don't need any SE!
The main problem I have with it, is that has caused my i-mate to freeze more than once.
I'll wait for SE . . .
NEVER had a single problem with NVD! :?:
mda3 runs se, we might be lucky as hardware seems to be almost identical, apart from keyboard and wlan
nvd works fine on an xda1 but on an xda2 it totally mongs it up, works a lil then goes fubar...
I was very very happy when I saw 2003SE last week and I tried every version of it, incl. chinese one, but now I give up becouse it's not stable "NOT STABLE AT ALL" right now my PPC is so death as a peace of rock and when it starts after 100 times of softreset then it's freezes after 10 seconds...
So I'm going to flash it with off. v1.7 + ROM 1.18 and I'll wait one more month and see whats happening then....
Thanks you guys for your hard work
There seems to be alot of different experiences depending on the version of bootloader you have. I have version 1.06 and SE works like a charm, except for ONE anoying bug.
It simply wont ring when someone calls me.
Other than that, im very satisfied.
Skenliv_offline said:
There seems to be alot of different experiences depending on the version of bootloader you have. I have version 1.06 and SE works like a charm, except for ONE anoying bug.
It simply wont ring when someone calls me.
Other than that, im very satisfied.
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anoying bug,It simply wont ring when someone calls me
It happent to me also, because I edit the register
so no sound, Think I take out the default ring tone
uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
shaytaan said:
I was very very happy when I saw 2003SE last week and I tried every version of it, incl. chinese one, but now I give up becouse it's not stable "NOT STABLE AT ALL" right now my PPC is so death as a peace of rock and when it starts after 100 times of softreset then it's freezes after 10 seconds...
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Well my fren, that's called life. We should be able to feel the joy and accept the sad part when something turns hairwire. No high and low will definitely make you an extremely dull person.
Cheer up! Specify your problems clearly and i think all the SE supporters will definitely help you in anyway they possibly could.
Look at the bright side, a not stable PPC makes me occupied and keep on thinking to overcome the challenges ahead. Opps...sorry guys i think i'm abit overly here like doing a motivation course.....
Nevertheless, i just wanted to save a lost soul of SE to revive back his excitement before an official launch of WM2003SE.....
eman said:
uninstall wisbar or pocketplus, soft-reset and check it out.
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Ah!! now i see, its because i chosed to start wisbar advance automaticly.
When i removed that option, it WORKED!! THANX!!!!
Wisbar advance freezes the phone application on 2k3SE shame because it is a good program.
My extended ROM consists of GSFinder (freeware), MIDI561.sa, todayweather (freeware old version), Extended ROM unlocker by xda-developers, Cproghook, BT executable upgrade and CameraB10_Hima25_WWE.
Oh yeah and a licensed verion of TomTom3.
I threw everything else out as I dont use it.
My XDA2 now benchmarks at 1452 according sbp benchmark which according to their comparisons on the website is 2nd or 3rd fastest. 1 full charge see's 24-30 hrs use without a recharge on standby including the folowing settings: bluetooth of, average of 4-5 hrs spend email, telephone, sat nav and games with back light to minimum and switch of backlight after 2 min and unit of after 3 min .
My conclucion is that 2k3SE is stable however a lot of the software used by us is not wholely compatible yet as it is a new platform and until the vendors realise their software bugs it will make 2k3SE appear to be unstable!
just my £0.02
I can assure you that the 2.20.07.CHS, aka the chinese version i s stable just like 1.72 was in its time
yes maybe there are some problem relating to the software (wisbar, I had the same problem as you guys), but it is not the wm2003se fault, but the fault of the software houses realesing apps with no SE support.
So try to look at the good times we are having doing all that upgrade, downgrade stuff....
The T9 Intellipad, does NOT save words if you chose another language.
This is seriously not good on my device, since im from sweden.
Has anyone got any sollution to this problem?!...
you will need to get the latest new version for WIn2003 SE
cause most of the software/program design for win2003 only not SE yet
wait for new version for SE
then you dun have the problems
I m running my A.K.A chinese SE no error/problems with all my software/program
Now I figured out how to get rid of the wisbar adv problem.
I found it on the lakeridge soft forum.
There is a guy that uninstalled the caller_id app, and it solves the problem.
I personaly don't use the caller_id thing (picture of the caller) and I don't have any problems in removing it.
Maybe it helped
For some reason my 8525 does not work with any rom with AKU 3.3, when I try to enter the comm manager it gives me that wait sign, and when it goes away nothing happens. Also the phone always says no service, and it does not even recognize when I don't have a sim card in. But the biggest problem is when I downgraded back to my old rom my Wlan does not work. No matter how i try and turn it on it does not start. If I try to start it in comm manager, i get that wait sign, and when it goes away the wlan is still off, the keyboard shortcut doesnt work either. I have reflashed the phone many times, and that hasnt fixed the wlan problem. BTW i flash from an sd micro card because I have windows vista and the regular upgrade method doesnt work on it.
Is there anybody that could please help me, it is out of warranty because I bought it on ebay, and I don't have the money to go about buying another one or repairing it (do they even repair pocket pcs these days?)
I toook the battery out and smelled the inside of the 8525, I think it smelled kinda funny, is it possible for the wlan chip to burn out?
btw, i will be willing to reward the person who helps me fix my pda (don't expect too much, im broke, probably $20 through paypal)
The first thing you need to do is flash to original ROM using XP and a USB cable.
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The first thing you need to do is flash to original ROM using XP and a USB cable.
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Just asking, but would that be any different from getting the .nbh file from the original rom and flashing from SD, or does something different happen that could be causing my problem?
cjchriscj said:
I toook the battery out and smelled the inside of the 8525, I think it smelled kinda funny, is it possible for the wlan chip to burn out?
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So just out of curiosity, what made you smell your Hermes? Because I tend to smell things, and I wondered if it was just the urge to smell it, or if you anticipated the burning-electronics smell...
cjchriscj said:
Just asking, but would that be any different from getting the .nbh file from the original rom and flashing from SD, or does something different happen that could be causing my problem?
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I wouldnt trust flashing in two ways:
1. Retractable usb cable
2. SD card
You never know what can go wrong. Use XP and a REAL USB cable. If you still have a problem, very possibly you still will, but at least we can mark that off the list.
richy240 said:
So just out of curiosity, what made you smell your Hermes? Because I tend to smell things, and I wondered if it was just the urge to smell it, or if you anticipated the burning-electronics smell...
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lol, I dont' usually smell things just out of the blue, I thought that I was going to smell burning electronics
wpbear said:
I wouldnt trust flashing in two ways:
1. Retractable usb cable
2. SD card
You never know what can go wrong. Use XP and a REAL USB cable. If you still have a problem, very possibly you still will, but at least we can mark that off the list.
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would using Virtual PC to run an image of XP on Vista be adequate?
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would using Virtual PC to run an image of XP on Vista be adequate?
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I never used virtual PC before, I dual boot.
hypothetically, If I flashed to the original rom using XP and the wlan still didn't work what would I do next? Also i just realized that my pda is hotter than normal, and sometimes when i plyg it in the amber light blinks instead of being solid.
LOL. I hope you have a warranty.
I dont know, if your WLAN wont even power on after a SUCCESSFUL flash of a confirmed good ROM (the original ROM) then you sound screwed to me.
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LOL. I hope you have a warranty.
I dont know, if your WLAN wont even power on after a SUCCESSFUL flash of a confirmed good ROM (the original ROM) then you sound screwed to me.
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That's not good, I don't have a warranty.
Well anyone have any info about the AKU 3.3 and phone module problem? I think it might have something to do with the radio
@cjchriscj
I think you already know you have an issue. Base on this thread and your responses, it sounds like you have a feeling things are not right. Most of the time when you feel that way, you are usually correct.
cjchriscj said:
That's not good, I don't have a warranty.
Well anyone have any info about the AKU 3.3 and phone module problem? I think it might have something to do with the radio
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Maybe but the WLAN is not a Radio ROM issue.
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Maybe but the WLAN is not a Radio ROM issue.
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yea, I kinda assumed that, but my 8525 has many problems, I posted about another problem that I have where I can't use the onboard microphone for voice calls, only note recording, and the wired headset's mic doesnt work either. The only way that I can use my 8525 as a phone is with a bluetooth headset which I fortunatley have. But, I'm over that problem. I need help with the AKU 3.3 roms messing up the phone radio
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yea, I kinda assumed that, but my 8525 has many problems, I posted about another problem that I have where I can't use the onboard microphone for voice calls, only note recording, and the wired headset's mic doesnt work either. The only way that I can use my 8525 as a phone is with a bluetooth headset which I fortunatley have. But, I'm over that problem. I need help with the AKU 3.3 roms messing up the phone radio
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you need to go back the shipped original ROM since we know that ROM works. AKU 3.3 is TEST so it is not good to use it as a hardware diagnostic tool.
wpbear said:
you need to go back the shipped original ROM since we know that ROM works. AKU 3.3 is TEST so it is not good to use it as a hardware diagnostic tool.
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whoa, thats news to me, I thought cingular officially released the new rom
Is there any sort of diagnostic tool for the hermes? I remember when i had my Ipaq Hx2415 it had a self diagnostic tool that would check all the functions (wifi, bluetooth, sound, touchscreen, buttons, etc). It would be great to see if something is really wrong with my wifi
OK now i think that the wifi is running but the pda doesnt know it. The battery is draining faster than normal and also it runs very hot. I put it to charge and when i came back it was blinkin amber and almost dead (yes, it was plugged in)
hiya,
bit new to all this, so some advice from you guys is needed!
what are the best options for the m1000?
not sure if there are different versions of the phone so give you as much detail as i can find?
cpu intel pxa263
speed 400mhz
ram 128mb
model ph10a
the main app i need is excel, plus a prog to print via ir to my dj450 printer(have been using printpocketce)
hope i have not missed anything important??
thanks in advance
there are 2003SE roms wm5 roms wm6 early roms
personaly if your device works as it should now i prob would leave it alone as i cant say if printing would work with later roms
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
only way i found to sort it out was a soft reset
so the main reason for the upgrade was an improvement in phone function rather than a printing issue?
think the main question i meant to ask really was which is the most stable version for this type of phone,most of the bugs sorted out?
thanks again
upgrading time got error in spv m1000 help please
i regreat to say i did try for update my spv m1000 today but my got died now when i tried i did conntect my ppc with ppc via bluetooth actvesync when i run HimaUpgradeUt.exe then a window open and shows mgs wait 30 minunt but after even 1 minunt got error also my phone got stop like dead and screen shows on top serial and on bottom it shows v1.3 i realy .sad. becouse now i cant reeboot also even ui have not data cable any body help me plz what i do now ?
voltesep said:
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
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Had a lot of hanging, on my M1000, but after upgrading to the WM2003SE WWE, the speed of the machine has improved a lot, and it does no longer hang, allmost no matter what I do.
I found that some of the build in Orange apps were the reason for "hangtime" and slowdowns, because if I tryed to install them, from the original Ext-ROM, all the problems came back.
So my experience is, that "Genuine English WM2003 SE " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=230279 is a major improvement, to the Orange standard WM2003
I upgraded my SPV M1000 from Orange ROM to WM5 and now to Tofclock WM6 ROM, and it works fine. All features are ok for me, it's great!!!
thanks for the reply guys
would like to try tofclock wm6, if im going to do it may as well go the whole hog!
does anyone know if you can print via ir in office on wm6?...or am i going to need some more software??