High Capacity Battery for PDA2K - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories

I have been searching for a spare battery for my new PDA2K. The standard battery capacity for PDA2K is 1500 mAmps. While I was searching - found 2200 mAmps being the same size as standard.
http://www.imatephonestore.com/selectItem.asp?itemMDL=PDA2KXBATT& plan=NO
Of course I'd rather have higher capacity one (almost 130% the charge) but I am reluctant to buy this one because it is "not standard" and I didn't see any reviews / recommendations neither on i-mate website nor anywhere else.
Did anyone try this or similar product? Should I go for "extended capacity" one? Thnx.

You can go for 3500 +
Bought my 2400 from here http://www.lionbattery.com and they have an 3500 as well. 2400 works like a charm only Batt Pro can't handle the 4 hrs + but who care's

Thanks, javar. Although 3500 seems as a dream come true I will go with a 2400 one because 3500 will not fit into the case that I have for my device. 2400 seems to be of the standard size -- it is just a little bit thicker along the whole length of the device which is okay with me. I actually thin that the original PDA2K should have sported the same approach to increase the battery life. Thanks a lot for the link again!

The 2400 last 10+ hours of heavy usage (bluetooth+CoPilot continuously running in the background, GPRS+web browsing, some phone)... With the standard battery, I usually have to switch battery around after lunch. With this battery, my battery level is around 20% when I'm ready to go to bed around midnight.
>>>> However, this darn battery won't charge in the spare battery cradle. It has to be plugged into your PPC... <<<< :lol: forgot to plug in the power cable!!!

This is strange. I have been talking to the guys at lionbattery.com and they told me that it charges perfectly fine from the cradle. Anyway, I have already made an order and will wait for my battery to come and test it in the cradle. I will keep you guys posted...

I have the 2400 and it does charge. You have to force it a little to get it in thats all.

I have 2400 as well, and can confirm that it charges from craddle.

Dears,
Thanks for choosing Mugen Power as your after market battery, we will do a lot of test before we release our battery.

I have used the 2400 va battery from www.lionbattery.com:
Item No.: HLI-XDA2SSL
Description: 2400mAh BATTERY (v.3) - PDA2K, XDA IIs, MDA III, 9090, XV6600, SX66 & more
Did 3-4 cycles already - excellent capacity, didn't reset my device, charges from cradle ok. I guess this v.3 really fixed the bugs and issues others had with the battery.
So far I am happy with it.

its look very expesive 72 us dollar
its look very expensive

does anyone know if the 2400 battery will fit into the BRANDO hardcase?? I really like this case a lot, but desire an extended battery. Thanks

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battery, where to find?

where to find a spare battery for the wizard?somebody?
Expansys have them in on the 10th Jan if thats any good for you?
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126529&asource=125518
found myself another site.
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/product_detail.php?productId=47905780
miljano
If you decide to go with the 1350MAH battery please let us know you're thoughts regarding both performance and vendor.
Thank you
I got a 1250mAH battery for my MDA Vario from http://stores.ebay.co.uk/SINO-WORLD about a week ago (search for "Wizard"). They delivered it in about a week. It seems to have around about the same capacity as the original battery.
It came to $24.88 including delivery to the UK but I used a Paypal voucher that reduced this by 10% so it ended up about £13. They gave me this link to the battery manufacturer's WWW site
found this site the other day, may try the 2500ma one.
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=2692
Does that battery (the 2500mAh) have the same dimensions and pins as the Wizard battery, though?
it doesnt:
PLEASE NOTE THIS BATTERY INCREASES THE THICKNESS OF THE XDA . REPLACEMENT BACK COVER IS INCLUDED
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and...its for the Magician
This one is for the Wizard:
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=2971
hmm.. almost double the life - might be worth the extra thickness. Now if only the showed some proper pictures of the actual thing in a wizard + new back cover :|
Also cute:
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5329
1-AA battery recharger. They didn't post any info on just how much it's able to recharge, but it's enough if you're in a bind and should fit easily in a lot of the pocketpc cases
just ordered the 2200mah one from here
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=2971
will let you know how it is particularly how thick and how long it lasts. only 25 pounds could be a bargain
http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=332
mega beefy and over twice the capacity of the standard - but out of stock.
a second battery in my wallet seems a better bet
Still waiting on some reviews on how the extra thickness and battery life is like :?
Sorry for the delay in pics guys but also wanted to test battery and try with different cases. The battery is bigger than expected but not as big or thick as mugen 2600 mah. the cover seems a bit larger than it should be - it may be possible to trim it but have not tried.
Found that with battery in and leather case on - no battery cover, things not so bad and only slight bulge at back.With cover supplied I wouldn't show my phone in public lol
here are my battery tests
Wizard battery
Standard 1250 Mah
25% loss 2.5 hours browsing
60% loss 5 hours browsing plus some game, radio, omap 240 15 mins
Extended 2200 Mah (75% more Mah)
20% loss over 2.5 hours browsing
40% loss 5 hours browsing plus some game, music, omap 240 15 mins
44% loss 7 hours browsing reconfig ppc
46% loss 8 hours browsing reconfig ppc.
60% loss 9.5 hours browsing (nearly double standard battery)!
80% loss 11.5 hours browsing
90% loss 12 hours browsing
All browsing was continuous and on GPRS.
Fairly impressive I thought for a 25 pounds sterling battery!
here are the pics - taken with my spv c500 so apologize for quality
The case btw is a modified krussell case meant for Magician but works for Wizard.
In short then decided to keep the battery - I wish it was slimmer but no other available extended batteries in the uk I can find and at the price can't comlain
see pics here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43510
external battery charger
has any one come across a external battery charger for the HTC wizard t-mobile T-Mobile MDA Vario
I'd like to see some Li-poly battery alternatives. Has a higher energy to volume ratio so you could pack more juice into the standard battery size, plus its lighter.
Re: external battery charger
flskgrd said:
has any one come across a external battery charger for the HTC wizard t-mobile T-Mobile MDA Vario
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Yes see here http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127197&partner=froogle
Dont know which country you are from, but expansys are good and are in us too.
meschle - I think they meant a charger for a spare battery. Kinda like how some of the cradles for other devices have another slot to charge a 2nd battery.
ZeBoxx said:
Also cute:
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5329
1-AA battery recharger. They didn't post any info on just how much it's able to recharge, but it's enough if you're in a bind and should fit easily in a lot of the pocketpc cases
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does anyone know where i can buy this? thanks

1500 mAH Battery - good!

Hey guys,
Last week I buy an 1500 mAH Battery (CS) for my Herald.
Included today I worked 5 days with my Herald (WLAN , Phone, SMS, Calender..) and I have 28% Energy
Good Performance....
Whats your experience with the 1130mAH Battery? Do you have other Battery tested (bigger than 1500?)
Thanks Oliver
Where did you get the battery from?
Battery Saler
Here:http://cgi.ebay.de/HTC-P4350-HERALD...0489001QQihZ015QQcategoryZ75446QQcmdZViewItem
or Here:http://search.stores.ebay.de/WORLD-...sooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftsZ2QQsaselZ196004655QQsofpZ0
After 6 days of (intensive) using I charge my Herald at the moment....
does xda zinc loses data on empty battery, just like the old xda's?
does xda zinc loses data on empty battery, just like the old xda's?
kaleidoscopelex said:
does xda zinc loses data on empty battery, just like the old xda's?
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No, you won't lose data
And this is not due to the pda, this was a 'feature' from WM2003
WM5 and WM6 both have the data/settings stored on a rom chip which doesn't lose its data when you soft-reset.
Are these batteries reliable? Don't want to have them exploded in my pocket! Has anyone already ordered?
Do these larger batteries fit with the original battery cover?
HERE is a 2400 maH Battery.
But It's a larger Backcover...
Thanks for the tip ... ordered one of these to compensate for running BatteryStatus.
5 days !! thats crazy talk !!
i get 2 at most on mine.
is this battery the same as the one you have?
http://www.gizmos2go.com/xcart/product.php?productid=8625
That's the one I ordered, but I haven't received it yet. They don't tell you when they're out of stock on their site.
cool rob, let me know how it is when it arrives.
why is that guy getting 5 days of charge?
Bought one too
After reading the first very positive post about the 1500mAh battery, I've got one myself too. Unfortunately I am quite disappointed. The life seem to be the same or even worse than the original battery to me
Just GSM eats about 3-4%/8h but when I turn the device on I can see the percents going down anxiously fast even with the backlight on the first level
Got the 1500mAh battery this past Friday. So far, looks like I'm getting at least two days, maybe a little more between charges. Pretty much what I'd expect given the modest increase in amperage. Overall, I'm pleased given that it only cost about $30.
Hi there, I'm using the 1500 battery since monday and can't say that I see any difference to the standard 1150- no breakthrough and I don't see how to get over two days with normal use
what about the 2400 maH battery. Are there any benefits of getting that or not? (other than making your phone feel and appear heavier)
Where did you find a 2400 maH battery? And will any accessory for the P4350 work for my T-Mobile branded "Wing"?
Can anyone comfirm that the 2400 battery will come with the cover for the T-mobile Wing?
Please let me know... I will like to have one
wing103 said:
Can anyone comfirm that the 2400 battery will come with the cover for the T-mobile Wing?
Please let me know... I will like to have one
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There is a guy on ebay selling a 3000 mah battery for the wing with the blue cover. It looks large to me but if you need the extra power it may help. On ebay search for "wing battery". I think his seller id was nakedcellphone or something similar.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/hig...acity-extended-battery-t-mobile-wing_2710.htm
here is a 2400 from boxware. what people should also let people know is what their overclock settings are and what people consider normal use. Im always on my phone texting or doing something.

Battery HTC StarTrek

For those at whom quickly to sit down the standard battery
http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=482
Here such battery 1900mAh for HTC Startrek will allow to work longer!
Wow. Does anyone have it? It sounds too good to be true for me. (I had some extra-capacity batteries from China or so and they were worse than original batteries. They were not for Qtek but for different device...)
Mugen batteries are generally reliable.
Sorry, clicked twice on slow connection.
Well... Finaly I have bought this 1900 mAh battery. I do not have it long but after one busy day I can say that this battery is really good one.
If I use the original 750 mAh battery, it would already has no power. But the new one is still above 50%. Well, I have traveled some hours by trains, read many news in rss reader, watch news in WMP, browse web (about 1-2 hours ), every 15 minutes checking for new emails, some IM... And the battery is still on. 56 %
The only disadvantage is the thickness. It adds 6 mm (0.236 inch) extra to Qtek.
Hey moneytoo, care to share some more expreriences? Is battery life much better, still after a month of use?
Thanks.
In week days when I use much internet connection the battery is enough for whole 2 days (no night turning off). Or the battery last for the whole weekend plus one week day = 3 whole days. Well - busy day = -50% battery life, normal use = -25% of battery life a day (= 24 hours).
So I believe it could run whole week (nights turned off) if there would not be much use. But I cannot test it because I really need to use my phone
Thanks for the quick reply moneytoo.
So it seems to me batterylife is more or less the same as a standard 1100mAh battery like on a Tornado device according to your experience. Price is about the same as the official 1100mAh extended battery. During weekdays I'm a heavy user of my phone so it seems to me this big battery is the right choice.
Thanks again.
my s300 is every time only and have a lot calls -> ideal working phone!
i use the office extanted batterie from HTC. the cover is very good. the most china made extanted batterie covers, are realy bad designed. if you can buy a htc version ... buy it :->
So the 1900mAh makes the phone about 6mm thicker? How much for the 1100mAh battery?
The 1100 mAh battery adds only 3 mm extra. And the cover is in sriped-style, but the 1800 mAh is not, it is just cheap plastic cover, but fits.
Good and useful information
Thanks guys/gals for this piece of information. It is definitely useful for people who are always looking for a plug to charge their phone.
The question is style(looks), versus practical(working phone)
Yes yes... thanks indeed. Very useful information.

Hermes Extended Battery -- should i get it?

the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
Don't be lazy and search before you post.
Read this thread.
battery
try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
6marcus9 said:
try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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€25,-?!?
The 3000mAh one cost me $69 at LionBattery IIRC. And I'd rather buy from them than from a suspiciously low-pricing vendor on eBay... I'm not risking my TyTN nor my €25,- with such a vendor
6marcus9 said:
try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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thanks for the info... but id rather trust my device (and money) on reputable stores rather than eBay... as they say, "you get what you pay for..."
no offense, though...
alfred_jp said:
the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
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I just got this battery from Lionbattery and it is emazing. I use to get about 15 hrs with standard batter. With this one I get 48 hrs, it is really worth it for me. I only had the battery for 3 days thus far.
i just got the extended battery - and am in the process of charging it now...
well, as what most people said - the back cover that came with the battery doesnt fit snugly into the unit. there is a outcrop on the seams (much like a bulge if you were too tight a pants)...
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
also - how does one full discharge the device? i mean, doesnt the device turn off automatically after some set of seconds? how can i keep it ON the entire time?
thanks in advanced!!!
I bought a 2800 one off ebay came with charger, and car charger for $30 last week.
alfred_jp said:
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
Anyway, to train the battery intially, put it through 3-5 full charge/discharge cycles. I do it with normal usage. Charge it till it is full and then use it until it shuts off. Repeat. The hard part (at least for me) is not plugging it into a USB for syncing or for modding the thing... cause that'll charge it, and you don't want to apply any charge (if possible) for those first 3-5 cycles. When I get the first battery alarm, I'll back the phone up just incase, then keep going.
Also, I've heard it was important that once you start charging it, you don't stop until it is fully charged again. ie, don't unplug it from the wall to make a call... go over to the wall and make the call while it is plugged in.
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
Li-Ion's do not have memory. They have a drastic drop once they go under a certain point of discharge.
I have the 2800 mAh, it works great and after a full day of use I have about 40% battery life.
-2 hrs on phone
-40 emails
-random web browsing
-Turn 3G and WiFi off when not used.
So you can see from the stock 1300 mAh which would last me about 9 hrs this is a HUGE step in the right direction.
Mine was on ebay for 30 bones with car charger, and Wall charger.
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
Lion Battery said:
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
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Mark,
Great information and I am glad to hear that I don't need to cylce through charge and discharge in order to get good performance out of the battery. I have cycled my new battery twice but I am not going to do it anymore. According to the information from above site, the battery last longer on partial charge.
Thanks
alkizmo said:
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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I bought the 2800 one off ebay for $30. Its not fake I haven't charge it at all for 2 days and its still at 70.
Seidio 3200 MAH, It Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just ordered one off ebay
I bought a 2800 mah battery for my 8525 off ebay from a cheap vendor and i admit it did give me more power but on closer inspection when i cracked the pack open it was two 1100mah wired together. I know this because they were stamped with 1100mah lol. Im still using it until this day but you truely get what you pay for. I would take the advice and buy from a reputable vendor or.... take my knowledge if you want a 2200 mah battery for 15-20 bucks.
I got an extended battery 2850mah from ebay. Initially it is no better than the regular battery.Then after a few cycles (5X) when I check my SPB battery meter which indicates the approx run time in hours it comes to 10 hours +! with the regular battery it only goes 3-4 hours. In terms of percent it stays at 100% longer.
over2land said:
The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
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Sorry to have to say but in this paragraph, you contradict yourself, first you say they dont have a memory and call it a myth, then you say they do.
In fact they dont have any memory effect, its better to charge them whenever rather than let them drain completely..
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
rant over
I bought a 2800 from 360wireless on ebay and have had it for almost a month. It certainly has doubled my usage, so with random surfing on 3G/HSDPA (roughly an hour or so of solid surfing), a keepalive connection on my IM program (on E/G for battery purposes), screen dimming after 30 seconds, and about 10 emails a day and 50-100 chat messages, I'm at about 50% at the end of my day.
I'm good with that. I don't need to open it and inspect it. If it's 2 batteries put together, as long as it does the job, I'm good.

GTMax 3 x 2000mAh Standard Lithium-Ion Battery+Battery Charger for AT&T Samsung SGS2

GTMax 3 x 2000mAh Standard Lithium-Ion Battery+Battery Charger for AT&T Samsung SGS2
Ok, I will be the 1st to ask.. I found this on Amazon and it saids its for AT&T SGS2... not sure about this brand and wonder if anyone have any comments on this.. Is it too good to be true?
if it's 2000mah with standard size battery, then it's probably not true. can't trust the sticker on the battery. if it's larger physical size battery, with new backing, then it's most likely better than the oem battery (due to larger cell size).
Ok, I will be the guinea pig on this one. I purchased it and will let you guys know...
$19 including shipping... damn cheap, i am not expecting much..
I just hope its around the OEM battery and I will be happy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HUS4LA
gqonmars said:
Ok, I will be the 1st to ask.. I found this on Amazon and it saids its for AT&T SGS2... not sure about this brand and wonder if anyone have any comments on this.. Is it too good to be true?
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I'll sell you a 2500mah battery that's the same size, and will sell it to you for half. Don't rub too hard tho, the "2500" is written in sharpie, hehe
Battery technology isn't rocket science. Size = Capacity 99% of the time. You might be able to squeeze out 2-5% in a form factor, but any claims of more are generally smoke and mirrors.
gqonmars said:
Ok, I will be the guinea pig on this one. I purchased it and will let you guys know...
$19 including shipping... damn cheap, i am not expecting much..
I just hope its around the OEM battery and I will be happy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HUS4LA
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Please let us know how they turn out!
Shipped
Delivery Estimate: October 18, 2011 - October 21, 2011
Slow delivery
What I would like to know is if it has the "same" or similar life compared to OEM, and if it is able to be plugged in via USB, or will it cause a boot-loop.
Thanks for testing this out bud.
initial impression...
I got the package this morning and it was in shipped in a plastic mail bag. Inside was the 3 batteries and the charger each having a white generic box sticker-ed with its model and serial. Inside, each was additionally wrapped with clear plastic.
The batteries feels good and solid. The wrapping was as pictured in its black skin with a generic label stating...
Replacement for Samsung Galaxy S2
3.7VDC-2000mAh
Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery
Read Instructions in operating guide before using the battery.
[some warnings and icons]
Made in China
I did not receive any instructions on the charger nor for the batteries.
The batteries fits into my ATT SGS2 perfectly and I did not need to replace the back cover nor was there any gaps after replacing the cover with this batter into the phone.
The charger is smaller than a pack of cigarette which measures about 2inx3.1inx1.1in. When charging, the bottom of the charger has this bright PINK light on that turns to BLUE when charging is completed.
It took about 3 hours to finish charging the 1st battery and I popped it into my phone. Now, the test is to see if I can charge the battery with the new battery.
NOPE! The phone instantaneously cycle reboots with the phone charger's microUSB plug into the phone when attached to the AC outlet. I unplugged the phone charger and it was fine.
Using *#*#INFO#*#*
I compare the specs of the OEM battery vs the new GtMAX batteries..
Original:
Battery Voltage: ~3907 mV
Battery temperature: 31-34 C
new gtMax battery
Battery Voltage: ~3817-4075 mV
Battery temperature: 27-34 C
The numbers sway a lot with the new battery but does not seem to affect the phone so far as I have been using it and it seems fine.
1st use battery life:
10h 20m on battery
AOS 49%
Display 29%
Cell Standby 6%
Market 5%
Phone Idle 5%
Email 3%
Android System 3%
Android core apps 2%
Time on 43m 14s
66% battery left
I have yet to test these scenarios:
1) long term battery test (maybe it gets better after a few charges)
2) plug into Laptop USB port for charging / data transfer
3) charging OEM battery with new charger
10 hours and 33% used isn't too shabby.
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Does anyone know if the boot loops are only with our version? I haven't seen them mentioned in the international version forum. Is it an issue of using non-NFC batteries?
update: These batteries definitely do not last as long as the OEM battery. I had to switch out 2 yesterday each lasting about 1/2 day. I guess thats why it comes with 3 of them.
After 1.5 hours of screen time, the battery is about 20% (within 1/2 day)
gqonmars said:
update: These batteries definitely do not last as long as the OEM battery. I had to switch out 2 yesterday each lasting about 1/2 day. I guess thats why it comes with 3 of them.
After 1.5 hours of screen time, the battery is about 20% (within 1/2 day)
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Thanks for the review. I wish there were more stringent control\standards in the battery marketing field. It's so annoying how they can so easily claim to hold 20% more and consumers not know until they get the battery that the claim is false.
Can you imagine Toyota telling you your gas tank holds 15 gallons then getting the car to the gas station for a fillup and finding out it only holds 10 gallons? LOL
Thanks for the heads up for everyone. I think you saved many of us lots of time and anxiety waiting only to be disappointed.
Good Catch
Thanks, I was considering buying a few of these since they were cheap, but didn't after seeing this. You guys are right, after browsing through a bunch of forums, I've noticed that when the batteries are the same size as stock battery, "higher" capacity, and cheaper, they are almost always a ripoff. Thanks again for the clear, concise info on the batteries.

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