Keyboard - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Accessories

I bought a Belkin wireless keyboard (F8U1500), but the keyboard drivers don't work with Windows Mobile 5.
Does anybody have any ideas on a good keyboard that will work with the Wizard? I want to do some writing, and lugging my laptop around is a pain.
Thanks.

How about using the one that comes with it
Why would you buy a wizard if you didn't want the keyboard. You should have gone for a JAM.

Well, first off, you can't actually type on that keyboard. You can peck, you can poke, and you can thumb, but there will be no writing of books or articles on that thing. It's too small.
Second, you can't buy a Jam or any of the other HTC handsets in the US. You get the two variants of Wizard, and that's it.
I could have gotten a WM2003 based machine, but there were specific features of WM5 that I wanted: the extended battery life and the non-volatile memory are at the top of my list. I've used Pocket PC's and Palm OS PDA's in the past, and I've always been worried about the batteries dying and losing my data - it happened once, and wouldn't you know I'd been using it heavily the day before.
Even at $500 (I didn't get an activation discount because of stupid recordkeeping on T-Mobile's part), the Wizard is still a good deal. I just looked up a Jam, and it's over $600.
Finally, I didn't know about the Jam, or any of the other HTC products until after I purchased the T-Mobile MDA. I like this product, and I wouldn't trade it for any other PDA I've seen - except maybe Cingular's variant, since I like their keyboard better.
Either way, the fact remains: I need a keyboard that's compatible with my Wizard, and giving me a hard time about what I "should have" bought doesn't help.
If anyone has any serious suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks.

I use the ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with my 8125, and the Qtek 9100 I had before it. Work very well togehter.
Drivers are here: http://thinkoutside.com/support/Drivers.asp?ManufacturerID=60&ModelID=357
Regards - John

Thanks. I ordered one of those through EBay ($105 after shipping).
We'll see how well that goes.

the think outside bt is great
i've been using since i had my jam and now the wizard
you made a good choice

chybinj said:
I use the ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with my 8125, and the Qtek 9100 I had before it. Work very well togehter.
Drivers are here: http://thinkoutside.com/support/Drivers.asp?ManufacturerID=60&ModelID=357
Regards - John
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They just released new BT drivers 4-20-06. So far it has seemed to fix the power button issue that myself and others have experienced. I really love this keyboard now!
Steven

thanks a lot for the update on the driver
i'll update mine now

I have an apple BT wireles keyboard.
Are there any drivers I can use to pair it with my Vario?. The Vario can find it, but doesn't offer any services to use.
(My apple wireless mouse pairs and is identified as a HID, but there is no mouse pointer on screen!!)

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Targus Universal IR Keyboard on WM 2003?

On the advice of some people here, I bought a Targus IR keyboard, and was disappointed to see it doesn't work right on WM 2003. I put it on my i-mate, no luck (it actually repeatedly soft-reset my i-mate), then on my old T-Mobile Pocket PC, and it doesn't work (WM 2003, 4.0.5), downgraded my T-mo back to 3.14 and it works fine.
Does anyone else have one of these working on WM 2003?
Yes. See review here:
www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5baac79508d015f527076ef2322a2efe&threadid=36437
still searching
The review really didn't tell me anything new.. i'm still looking for a way to get this thing working on the XDA or XDA II with Windows Mobile 2003.
Jon.
Targus won't work with my XDA
I have bought a Targus Universal wireless keyboard on the strength of people on this forum saying it works.
I can not get it to work with my XDA I. I tried the latest driver from targus. I even got rid of my custom cooked ROM and put a standard O2 UK ROM on.
When I enable the keyboard my XDA slows down so much it becomes unuseable. If I tap for the start menu it takes about 5 seconds to appear and everything else is just as slow. The XDA does not register anything if I press any keys on the keyboard. Even if I then use the program to disable the keyboard my XDA is to slow to use unitl I do a reset.
Can anyone help as I really don't want to have to try and return the keyboard.
Thanks
Stuart
That slowing down feature is the same as when you try to choose the irda port when using tomtom, I understand its to do with the xda not setting up a virtual port and addressing the port direct, I am no expert and have asked numerous questions about the irda port on xda but never got any answers, on the ipaq the irda shows up as "generic irda" and works great, however on xda it shows as "infrared port" or similar, when a program attempts to acces it the slow down/crash happens.
anyone can advise on less bulky keyboard for XDA I ....
(in ideal world I would additionally say) that works on WM2003
any ideas ??
regards, monika
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA1 + ROM 2002 NOT OK (Different Rom Versions)
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA2 + ROM 2003 NOT OK (Different ROM Versions)
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA1 + ROM 2003 OK. Tested by me with latest Tmobile RUU 4.01.00 and IRKeybd Driver Ver 1.25
thanx for the clarification but can you advise also on .....
something in terms of keyboard that is smaller that is working on WM2003 pls ???
regards
monika
As for the IR keyboard, I only tested Targus, which is somewhat bulky, as you say, but works with XDA 1 and WM2003 (Latest ROM version T-Mobile 4.01.00)
As for standard keyboard (with normal XDA connector, not IR) I have tested the G7B0 which is much slimmer and had no problems at all. It also has a plus: you can charge your XDA while connected to the keyboard with your normal standard charger and the keyboard itself does not need batteries, like the IR ones.
As for the Minus, compared to the Targus one, you will be missing: the emulated mouse, but then..., you are asking for a keyboard, not a mouse
thank you for your input
I might consider give it a try
regards, monika
I upgraded to the latest 4.01.00 ROM and indeed the Targus keyboard now works like a dream.
I had put of upgrading to WM2003 as I tried a while back and could not get GPRS working (O2 UK). This time I have managed to get it working but it does seem slower don't know why.
Thanks for your help
Stuart
you're most welcome :wink:

BT Thumb Keyboard

I'm looking for a small thumb-like bt keyboard. I know there are many folded ones, but they are all to big. Coming from Kaiser i miss thumb-typing, so i'm in need of something similar. Logitech dinovo mini is way to expencive and still to big to carry around. I found some, but don't know if they will work. If anyone has some idea if this can work on HD or does know thumb-like keyboard, please share.
Old one, but it looks great
http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/n..._releases_standalone_bt_thumb_board_08101034/
Weird looking but would do the job
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-83Key-Wire...4|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
Maybe this one too
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=224040
Anyone using this?
http://freedominput.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=137&Itemid=140
tnx
Have you also explore alternative soft keyboards like Resco or SBP:
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/keyboard/
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/keyboard/
I also used to have a Touch Pro and a Tytn II and was a thumb typist on both. But, now I'm happy with JUST the HD and now keyboard.
i use soft keybrds for fast input, but when typing long emails it's much faster to type with hw keyboard. I even make less typos with it.
i suppose the only problem is with device driver, so what kind of BT chip does HD have? Some of this thumb keyboards allready have wm support (of some sort) and support Bluesoil.
I dont know much of this, so i could be way off. Even so, i think this would be good adition.
tnx
could be used for games?
teva said:
I'm looking for a small thumb-like bt keyboard. I know there are many folded ones, but they are all to big. Coming from Kaiser i miss thumb-typing, so i'm in need of something similar. Logitech dinovo mini is way to expencive and still to big to carry around. I found some, but don't know if they will work. If anyone has some idea if this can work on HD or does know thumb-like keyboard, please share.
Old one, but it looks great
http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/n..._releases_standalone_bt_thumb_board_08101034/
Weird looking but would do the job
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-83Key-Wire...4|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
Maybe this one too
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=224040
Anyone using this?
http://freedominput.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=137&Itemid=140
tnx
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I'm not sure that the maplin one would work
I had a real good look at it plus some web searching
ps3's use a different HID to microsoft
Hence I'm reasonable sure it not for you
Gary
I'm waiting to see this thing come out.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/06/lgs-lba-c300-bluetooth-qwerty-card-is-the-best-calculator-loo/
dfkd said:
I'm waiting to see this thing come out.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/06/lgs-lba-c300-bluetooth-qwerty-card-is-the-best-calculator-loo/
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that is sick! bet its more than the other ones due to screen etc but would be a great companion to the blackstone

Qwerty keyboard

Is there any qwerty keyboard that can be atached to the td2 like its on the touch pro 2 ?
because that would be realy cool
thanks
5kordez5 said:
Is there any qwerty keyboard that can be atached to the td2 like its on the touch pro 2 ?
because that would be realy cool
thanks
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You can use a foldable bluetooth keyboard. Google it.
There are cloth ones, foldable ones, even little laser keyboards that are super tiny. I've paired mine with a friends Microsoft 6000 and it worked great. Searching google or yahoo yields quite a bit.
yeah these are great.. but what about keyboard that is in HTC touch pro 2 ... I would love to have a keyboard small like that ..it would be great if it could be atached on the back of topaz and it would be like rhodium
so any ideas?
How about buying a Rhodium?
Check this one:
http://www.wirelessground.com/blke.html
Buy a Touch Pro 2 instead?
i have ordered this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310190505642
i expect receved it quick
arrow224 said:
Buy a Touch Pro 2 instead?
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doesn't look as cheap as buying a 10$ BT-keyboard -_-'
i just get the bluetooth keyboard i have ordered 2 week ago and he he great ; i can use it to play with all the games who need lot of keys
but i have a litte problem on my diamond 2 (and not on my p3600 xd) when i type m i get a , on the screen
The Best BT external Keyboard made was the Think Outside/IGO Bluetooth keyboard
I've had mine for years and it was gathering dust until I got my TD2 and it paired STRAIGHT away to my TD2 without any drivers or any tweaking...
The only problem is that the manufacturer Igo has stopped making them now but you can still pick on up on ebay or some places
Microsoft 6000 How-to?
illusion said:
There are cloth ones, foldable ones, even little laser keyboards that are super tiny. I've paired mine with a friends Microsoft 6000 and it worked great. Searching google or yahoo yields quite a bit.
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I cannot get either my Logitech Dinovo Edge or my Microsoft 6000 to pair with my TD2. I thought it might be a ROM issue so I tried about ten different ROMs including the shipped Telstra ROM (my phone is from Telstra), a shipped T-Mobile ROM and a bunch of cooked ROMs (thanks chefs) and none of them worked. It would recognise the KB and show it in the list of devices but always as "disconnected".
So, I am keen to hear how you made the MS 6000 work with the TD2.
(BTW I have had no trouble pairing my Dinovo with a Nokia E51 and my MS6000 with an Apple TV in addition to their usual PCs so I do not think the keyboards are the problem).
Update: I have just installed Dutty's latest Holy Grail ROM [Duttys Topaz Sense 2.5 Holy Grail R9 |WWE|
Based Rom 2.53 ( CE OS Build 5.2.21891 & 5.23534 )] and I can now connect my DiNovo Edge keyboard. Thanks Dutty.

Bluetooth Keyboard?

Does anyone know of a bluetooth keyboard that works with their folio 100? I've been looking at the ones from Freedom, but it seems that the drivers are only beta.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
The Logitech diNovo Edge works perfect on Folio 100 with FolioMod v1.4
Cheers
Apple ..
The Bluetooth Keyboard works like a chram, though if you like to use the numeric Keypad it lacks some Functions.
The Trackpad as PointDevice should also be working if you install Support for Pointing Devices. Dunno wich App you might be using but there are several.
*self-edit*
If the Keyboard puts out weird Chars once connected you should try pressing [fn]+ [f6] cos thats like on a Notebook Keypad if the blue Numeric Part is active.
can you use the keyboard from apple on the folio? or on any android tablet or phone? can you use this keyboard on a windows computer?
I use the Microsoft Bluetooth® Mobile Keyboard 6000. It works great.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/bluetooth-mobile-keyboard-6000
Wulfreston said:
Does anyone know of a bluetooth keyboard that works with their folio 100? I've been looking at the ones from Freedom, but it seems that the drivers are only beta.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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good bluetooth keyboard
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necro post but the logitech tablet keyboard for iPad work like a charm better quality than microsoft keyboard and more compact plus it come with a sleeve that can be used as stand for the folio with 2 position. (also it is swiss no matter what its allways quality *nono im not saying that because im swiss )
cons: its a lil heavy for that size (hu who care in fact xD )
also all the blue fn secondary button function are working perfectly.
the retailer was going mad saying "nananah its for iPad and iPad only not for worth nothing toshicrap tab" i was about to punch him but i said "did apple put a patente on bluetooth? nope so they cant lock that product for the iPad only, so it will works on my Folio aswell" i understand he was meaning iPad roxx andropad suckzzz but failled to argue with me in the end... we all Know only some chinese copy sucks *iPad or andropad copy*
man ... i really love fanboy and their non objective opinion...
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I use Trust 17809. I have remaped the layout for to have the good letters in the right place. Originally it's for iPad.
Hi ! I bought a simple bluetooth keyboard and checked youtube for instructions to make it work. It works with AAA batteries and it's quite cheap (20 euros maybe or less)

Bluetooth Keyboard

Does the Photon only work with the Motorola BT keyboard? I have tried 2 BT keyboards I already have and I cannot get them to pair with the phone. I tried both the 0000 and 1234 passkeys the phone tells me but neither works. Neither of my keyboards came with passkeys. Thanks in advance for any help you folks can offer.
I just paired mine to an Apple Wireless Keyboard (bluetooth) that I had laying arond and it worked fine.
Random note about pairing an apple keyboard though:
After the phone asks you to put in a pin number and you hit ok, immediately type the same pin into the keyboard and hit enter. Then it will pair fine.
Hmm I will have to give that entering the key on the keyboard a try.
Yup that did the trick. I am using the Targus tablet keyboard and I did as you said, I entered the passkey on the phone and as soon as I hit OK I entered the same number on the keyboard and hit enter and boom I was in business. Only thing though I don't know if your using SPb 3D shell but I had to uninstall it because everytime I connect the keyboard the whole SPB shell crashes. Anyone else using SPB 3D shell experience this?
Sorry, I'm not using that. Is it a launcher? I'm using launcher pro.
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I got the mini bluetooth keyboard from Amazon to work. Works pretty well so far. The layout is a little funky and I haven't found a way to quickly send when texting.
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I am using the apple wireless keyboard without trouble.
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Any others with a good functioning fold away keyboard and portable mouse for this device and perhaps usable for tablet pc's that support BT?
amlodipine said:
Any others with a good functioning fold away keyboard and portable mouse for this device and perhaps usable for tablet pc's that support BT?
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Best product I have seen for portability/functionality: Logitech diNovo Mini
In theory, should any keyboard that properly implements canonical Bluetooth HID work with the Photon (at least, well enough to work properly with Connectbot, including cursor keys)? Or in more concrete terms, has anybody found a Bluetooth HID keyboard that worked with Cyanogen, but DIDN'T work as expected on a Photon with stock firmware?
(by the way, I'm also open to suggestions for a keyboard that can be non-awkwardly pocketed, and is suitable for both panic-stricken sysadmin work with Connectbot involving bash & SQL *and* casual web browsing while eating at BK. I could almost deal with one that's "phone-like" as long as the center-to-center key pitch is at least as wide as the Epic, it has a number row, and the symbols are in the right places... but with more empty space surrounding the keys so I won't have to press with my fingertip to avoid pressing an adjacent key. I'd totally kill for the folding Jorno KB I saw on Wired & Gizmodo, but it looks like THAT one won't actually be available until 2012 even though they started sending out press releases and demo units last year).
Update: does anybody have an opinion (good, bad, awesome-if-it-worked-but-it-doesn't, etc) about this particular keyboard:
http://www.dracotek.com/bluetooth-w...e-smartphones-pc-laptop-and-more-bfkip01.html
It looks like the latest incarnation of the 4-way folding keyboard design that's been around since at least the Palm V (now, with bluetooth and USB-recharged lithium battery). I really like it (on paper, at least), because it's the only keyboard like this I've ever found that has all the keys I care about in the right places. I've been lusting after a keyboard like this for literally years, but it seems like my phones have always been one version away from compatibility with it (sigh). Now that I have a phone that literally knows how to deal with proper Bluetooth HID out of the box, I'm dying to finally buy one the moment I have an excuse to believe it's likely to work ;-)
I picked up the Official Moto Keyboard at Target for $48 - Normally $69.99 - it was marked as clearance - couldn't pass it up
Connected and works very well with the Hacked webtop
Sparky_McBurning said:
I just paired mine to an Apple Wireless Keyboard (bluetooth) that I had laying arond and it worked fine.
Random note about pairing an apple keyboard though:
After the phone asks you to put in a pin number and you hit ok, immediately type the same pin into the keyboard and hit enter. Then it will pair fine.
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That worked with the CE Compass Mini Bluetooth as well. If only the documentation had mentioned that critical step.
The CE Compass bluetoothhas a mouse ponter control, uses AAA batteries, and is cheaper than Logitech but probably not as robust.
It is about half the size of an iPad. So it could go into a big pocket.
Thanks to follow
Well, for what it's worth, I've successfully paired and used both a DiNovo keyboard and MX900 mouse. I haven't bought a pocketable keyboard though. At the moment, I'm trying to find an app compatible with the Hero that can emulate a real, honest to god Bluetooth HID keyboard and Mouse (99% of the apps in Android Market don't emulate HID, and require a special server app that doesn't work on phones/tablets at the other end). If I can get the Hero to work and pair with my Photon as its keyboard/mouse, I'll be psyched... I already own it, it's just sitting in a drawer anyway, it's half the size of actual pocketable bluetooth keyboards with mouse capabilities, and I can do Graffiti on it instead of fumbling with keys scaled for a midget
Walruski said:
I got the mini bluetooth keyboard from Amazon to work. Works pretty well so far. The layout is a little funky and I haven't found a way to quickly send when texting.
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What mini keyboard did you get? I see alot on there but not for sure which ones will work or not
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dude buy this one http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keyboard-Built/dp/B004I4UQE4/ref=pd_cp_e_2
or
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/keytouchpad.html
or
http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Pro-Wireless-Bluetooth-Keyboard-TouchPad/dp/B003ZJEUBI/ref=pd_sim_e_6
the first one is the cheapest. i believe the other ones are just a lil newer. just make sure u order bluetooth and not 2.4ghz.
Those look nice but don't need a touch pad tho. I never use webtop not found myself ib a situation to need to use webtop since my laptop is always near by. I'm just looking for a mini keyboard that will work.
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Has anyone been able to get the HP Touchpad keyboard to work?
Walruski said:
I got the mini bluetooth keyboard from Amazon to work. Works pretty well so far. The layout is a little funky and I haven't found a way to quickly send when texting.
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Same here... The rii micro keyboard is pretty sic.. and it comes with a free usb-bluetooth adapter. Combine this with Ubuntop hack and u have yourself a very savage machine!!

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