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PIEL FRAMA just came out with a beautiful case for the K-Jam
Linke here.
http://www.pielframa.com/qtek_9100.htm
Cheers
hrb
that is not cheap
and no where to put my credit cards
em.....not good
There's also been some question as to the strength of the leather section that holds the device when the strap is unbuttoned when using the keyboard.
Some have even mentioned that leather does tend to stretch over time which wouldn't be good in this case (no pun intended)
mywuzhuo said:
that is not cheap
and no where to put my credit cards
em.....not good
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The wizard has got magnets in it to do the landscape/portrait screen switching. You probably don't want to put your credit cards anywhere near it.
Ineedtoys said:
mywuzhuo said:
that is not cheap
and no where to put my credit cards
em.....not good
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The wizard has got magnets in it to do the landscape/portrait screen switching. You probably don't want to put your credit cards anywhere near it.
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Not correct
Watch Mythbusters on Discovery
The magnetic strips in Bank and creditcards can take a lot more magnetic interference than those measly magnets can generate.
Hmm, don't like having to unbutton to use the keyboard
I've seen other flip (and book) cases where you don't have to unbutton to use the keyboard. If I wanted to do that, I'd keep my kayboard down my trousers.
avocaz said:
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Watch Mythbusters on Discovery
The magnetic strips in Bank and creditcards can take a lot more magnetic interference than those measly magnets can generate.
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You might well be right (which is why I said probably), but I'm not convinced that's conclusive. From the write up I've read of the program, static exposure had no affect, but waving the card though the field did. That's kind of the pattern you'd get from constantly opening and closing the case. Neither did they take into account partial corruption on a card with an already weak strip (e.g. worn). They also didn't do any long term exposure tests - only for one second. So not conclusive in my book - though no doubt it looked good for television.
I do know that my cards used to be regularly corrupted by carrying a security access card with weak internal magnets in the same wallet. And I tend to give more credence to real life experience than "infotainment" TV.
Hmmm, you might be right , I'm definetly going to check out your points as they sound viable, thank you for another perspective
So, back on topic, has anyone used the Peil Frama case?
Ineedtoys said:
So, back on topic, has anyone used the Peil Frama case?
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Right now I am reviewing the Piel Frama case for the Bostonpocketpc.com website...the strap is needed to keep the pda in it's case. Without the strap you can slide out the keyboard. I's getting a little used to, but the quality is perfect.
Read my review soon at www.bostonpocketpc.com
Johan
Krusell Case for XDA Mini S Pro/ qtek 9100
Thanks for all for the help in ulocking my new xda mini s.
Well guys i found this case to be best and secure, and yes you can put credit card in this case, and am using one @ the moment. i have 3 left to sell YIM me.
Somewhat unhappy with the Piel Frama Wizard case
Here's my comments written in an email sent to Piel Frama.
"Hi,
I just received the 3rd case I’ve ordered from you. I have nothing to complain about regarding the swift delivery as usual.
I have been very happy with my previous 2 well designed cases one for HP iPAQ 4150 the other for my QTEK S100 but I’m not so thrilled this time.
This time I purchased a case for the new QTEK 9100 Smartphone for €60. Although I realise the difficulty in designing a case for this Smartphone model I immediately noticed a major flaw.
I cannot smoothly close my case when I have my headset plugged in at the bottom. I have to force the button in place which leaves my lid at an untidy angle. I would have expected the same solution to this as was found on my last QTEK S100 case where you had a small half circle cut out in the latch that closes the case.
Also I would have preferred the magnet closing mechanism/button of the QTEK S100 case. But as you did not make room (the cut out) for my headset plug on the QTEK 9100 case I guess I have to be grateful for the old school button which means that I can at least force the case closed. I should also be grateful that I did not choose a more expensive material this time. It takes about 10 times as long to close this case compared to my old well designed S100 case, which I’m not very happy about at all as you can imagine.
I guess I’ll have to trim the case design myself (trim the hole for the headset plug which is somewhat askew as well as cutting out a half circle in the closing latch/leather band so that I can close the damn thing, excuse my language) and possibly ruining the case in the process but there’s nothing else to do as I cannot live without headset for my phone.
Unfortunately I was not able to find an end user review in English of this particular Piel Frama case before I ordered (I like to keep informed of what I’m spending my cash on) and still can’t. I’m sure that the first user review must come down hard on this design failure which would have been easily solved and which has been solved before.
I will be better informed next time I order. And I hope you make the necessary design changes to the QTEK 9100 before any end user reviews show up.
Sincerely,"
In addition to what I have said above I should mention that I think I will attach some velcro to the back of my QTEK 9100 (a pity to have to leave glue residue on the device) and the inside of my Piel Frama case so that I don't risk it falling out when using the keyboard. The fit of my case is not so snug as has been implied.
I'll make sure to post any reply I get from Piel Frama.
haz4u - you say the Krusell cases you have fit credit cards - I tried this in teh shop and teh slot is too narrow - have you actually tried this yourself - you may find the slot is just too small...
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ash29 said:
...I think I will attach some velcro to the back of my QTEK 9100 (a pity to have to leave glue residue on the device)...
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Dont worry about glue residue, use windex and it will rub right off.
btw windex is the best to use for sticky things, for example gum in carpet(or hair), sticker glue or tint glue left on windows... whatever.. you get the point.
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haz4u said:
Thanks for all for the help in ulocking my new xda mini s.
Well guys i found this case to be best and secure, and yes you can put credit card in this case, and am using one @ the moment. i have 3 left to sell YIM me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38213&highlight=
Re: Krusell Case for XDA Mini S Pro/ qtek 9100
haz4u said:
haz4u said:
i have 3 left to sell YIM me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38213&highlight=
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As that thread says, they're cheaper elsewhere. Shame you can't use the keyboard without taking it out of the case.
van_mierlo said:
Right now I am reviewing the Piel Frama case for the Bostonpocketpc.com website... Read my review soon at www.bostonpocketpc.com
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Did the review get posted?
theres this piel frama case and another company's case that hold the wizard like that from the bottom and allow you to use the keyboard. But i have yet to see an image that shows exactly how its holding on to it. If anyone has used one or seen one, can you please explain to me how its holding on to the device.
fone_fanatic said:
theres this piel frama case and another company's case that hold the wizard like that from the bottom and allow you to use the keyboard. But i have yet to see an image that shows exactly how its holding on to it. If anyone has used one or seen one, can you please explain to me how its holding on to the device.
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Piel Frama claim it uses the tension of the leather of the sides, but in practice I'd suggest the answer is nothing once the strap is undone. With the rounded "hull" shaped case and profile of the Wizard, anyone can see that sideways pressure would force the device out, not in! And, of course, leather stretches over time... It was suggested to Piel Frama that the ideal way would be to use a retaining rod to go into the stylus holder, but looks like they haven't acted on that. So I can't see how any of Piel Frama's claims work in practice. Hence my question about the "promised" review above. Other cases use a strip of clear plastic over the keyboard to hold everything in place.
what would be a good design is a case that replaces the battery cover. The battery cover would be part of the ase and leave the bottom exposed so you can access the thing to take the battery cover off... i think that would hold well. along with the tension ofcouse... maybe if i get my hands on one i'll retrofit the battery cover/door into the case.
Has anybody found a credit card enabled Wizard case?
The closest I've seen is the Krusell case - www.krusell.se - but this is just too small...
This is seriously hampering my impulse gadget buying!
strongp said:
Has anybody found a credit card enabled Wizard case?
The closest I've seen is the Krusell case - www.krusell.se - but this is just too small...
This is seriously hampering my impulse gadget buying!
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Not a good idea. If you have the credit cards next to the PDA the GSM transmitter could erase the magnetic stripe.
Not forgetting that the Wizard uses a magnet for rotating the screen...
TheBrit said:
strongp said:
Has anybody found a credit card enabled Wizard case?
The closest I've seen is the Krusell case - www.krusell.se - but this is just too small...
This is seriously hampering my impulse gadget buying!
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Not a good idea. If you have the credit cards next to the PDA the GSM transmitter could erase the magnetic stripe.
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Hmmm...I've been using an XDA2 for 2 years with credit cards in a Krusell case. Have not had any probs with demag of cards from GSM transmitter of XDA2...so why would this one?
Where is the magnet situated for landscape?
This too is the thing which is holding up my switch from xda2 to Wizard...hope somebody makes a case with that in mind.
To anyone in or out of the US, we have a show called mythbusters on the discovery/learning channel. They did a test on credit cards and found that it takes quite a bit to clear/damage the data on the mag strip (the new credit cards especially (ya know, anything past 1990)). Hope it helps!
the only magnetic strip i ever had that got erased by my phone was a room key at a hostel in Melbourne. Most hotels throw them away after one use, but this cheap hostel reused them to keep costs down and constant reprogramming made them tempermental. If I forgot and shoved that key into my pocket with my T28 I would have to get it reprogrammed everytime.
I had a magentic money clip which ate credit card strips if I dropped it onto the wrong pocket. Mind you, that was a long time ago, and it was a strong magent. I've always kept credit cards in the case next to my other XDAs without problems.
I've been using the Krussell case for the Wizard for a couple of months now, and it's great.
A really good clip and release mechanism, well crafted, and it now takes 3 credit cards after a bit of stretching. Easily the best case I've ever had.
I have had cards (lotsa cards with mag strip) in my wallet which also have a contact-less card. If you know the workings behind the contact-less card, you would know that there is a magnetic field on the reader that gives your card the power to process and send the signal. I think that would be much stronger than a mobile phone signal and also the freq would be much lower, hence easier to disstort any magnectic strip. However, I have been using the card for 2 years+ everyday and I don't have problems with my creditcards.
BTW, I've did a test on floppy disk on those magnetic telephone book (those that use two pieces of magnet as cover). And it seems impossible to erase the stuff on the disk. I guess you need a much stronger magnet.
Hello. I have used my wizard intensely for about an year or so and I am sad to say its looks are awfull now(i forgot to mention I work in sales and I have a very strong relationship with my phone). As I am from Bucharest, it is very hard for me to find a genuine original case, and not an aluminium or leather protective one. Is there any chance I could find one of those cases and what would the costs be?
Thanx
mihaitranca said:
Hello. I have used my wizard intensely for about an year or so and I am sad to say its looks are awfull now(i forgot to mention I work in sales and I have a very strong relationship with my phone). As I am from Bucharest, it is very hard for me to find a genuine original case, and not an aluminium or leather protective one. Is there any chance I could find one of those cases and what would the costs be?
Thanx
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found mine @
www.wirelessground.com
Credit card mag strip
Mythbusters proved that simple magnets (even neo) eel skin and a lot more things wont affect a magnetic strip. They ended up using a really strong electro magnet and only partially damaged the strip.
Here's one I wouldn't mind parting with.
This one works with the Cingular 8125
It has 2 SD card slots and 2 Credit Card slots on each side of the wallet section.
The only flaw in it is a rip on the side. But it still will function normally, to hold the device.
I would sell it to you for $10.00 US Dollars plus S/H.
If your interested, let me know.
bholl777
Innopocket Magnum Case
How does it handle in daily use?
Does it support an extended battery?
I'm using the Brando hardcase and it's been good, but after a couple of drops the corners of my BA are a little dinged up since there is no corner protection.
Thanks!
Tikerz said:
Innopocket Magnum Case
How does it handle in daily use?
Does it support an extended battery?
I'm using the Brando hardcase and it's been good, but after a couple of drops the corners of my BA are a little dinged up since there is no corner protection.
Thanks!
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I am on my second one. The first broke within a month and was replaced by the dealer. The side clamps that hold the case closed are not well made. Even a small drop will cause the springs in the clamp to pop out or the entire clamp comes out. I have spent a lot of time searching around on the ground for all the pieces after the clamps falls apart. Sometimes the clamp comes loose for no reason. You will be walking and your PDA falls out of the case. I was told that I probably just had a faulty case and they sent me another one. The clamps look the same so I figure the same thing will happen. The aluminium case locks with a different mechanism and works much better.
I have a magnum
As far as cases go it's the bet i've owned. Better than the tinny metal ones. The only reason my BA works is thanks to this case.
I'd reccomend it
Since reveiving the second case I havn't had any problems. I think I just had a lemon the first time.
does this really protect the device in some cases of accident drop. Hows the the feel of the case?
Tikerz said:
Does it support an extended battery?
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Can you get an extended battery for the BA? Got a link for it?
Yes on e-bay but I have heard some horror stories about them so be careful.
murduck said:
does this really protect the device in some cases of accident drop. Hows the the feel of the case?
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Yes it really does protect the phone. I have dropped mine twice with this case and there was no damage to the phone at all. It did pop out of the case once though.
I have not had any issues with this case untill the threads on the post wore out and the case started falling due to that. I was not happy with the way they put the post on the cases. but it has lasted longer and functions better than any other case I have owned for my SX66 so I would buy another.
I have this case, but I prefer to use the original Siemens case, for the sole reason of ergonomics.
The Blue Angel is a sleek, sexy piece of art (all compacted into a phone), and to hide it in a bulky titanium case just doesn't seem right to me. Also, you cant use the touch screen and using the call/end and D-Pad buttons is a clumsy task with the innopocket case. I'd recommend getting a nice leather folder type case or an OEM style Siemens case.
However, the Innopocket case is GREAT when you use the phone as a GPS. Just attach the car mount to the back, and it protects the phone from hitting the windshield and dashboard while driving down a bumpy road.
I bought on eBay and I can't use it !
If I put my sx66 in the case it will push the button and other than that I can't close securely. I'm very dissapointed with the quality.
So please don't buy it !
I've had a few. Both the Titanium and Black Magnesium.
Also I've owned these for 4 different PDA models. After a few falls The Titanium will actually Dent in and itself leave a scratch on your PDA. The Magnesium doesn't dent in and is the one I currently use. The black case also compliments the silver PDA's color very well. Both will Pop open on a fall sometimes leaving your machine vulnerable. Serious Issue - I wish They would fix. All in all it is the most protective and stylish case available. You can recoup most of your lost functionality by assigning Voice Command to the record button. These are not like soft cases though. As you bump or drop your PDA around they will become damaged and inoperable and you will have to replace them.
balakhan said:
I have this case, but I prefer to use the original Siemens case, for the sole reason of ergonomics.
The Blue Angel is a sleek, sexy piece of art (all compacted into a phone)
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omg Sorry but I have to say, I had palm IIIe, 2x palm 505, Tungsten E, qtek 1010, qtek 2020 and now BA which is qtek 9090 and last one is the more ugly than any of the pdas I owned before. Even the 2020 was piece of the art comparing to 9090
If you want to see sleek and sexy piece of art take a look at palm m505, that little guy gathered a lot of prizes for the design and thats for the reason, it looks like the some part of the porsche. BA is definitely not in that class.
While trying out a Iphone case the sales rep remarked what was that? He looked on the floor and picked up my stylus. I did not even see it fall. It had gotten caught on the elestic sides of the case as he removed the HD from the case. I had actually thought about that very scenario and wondered if anyone has encountered the same problem. I can't for the life of me understand why HTC would put he stylus on the bottom when it is so easily pulled out by the action of removing it from the case.
dhatw.
already lost the first piece on day 1 with the stupid pouch design. Now on spare and not able to buy standby piece yet - not available here in Southeast Asia.
ed2004 said:
already lost the first piece on day 1 with the stupid pouch design. Now on spare and not able to buy standby piece yet - not available here in Southeast Asia.
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Try this.... HD Stylus from Tiawan >> http://www.pdablast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=661
At first I thought you must be some rough mofo's to be able to accidentally pull the stylus out.
I have direct access to 4 HD's and seems that the strength of the magnet that pulls the stylus into the HD varies quite a bit between different devices.
With mine you have to exersize actual force to be able to remove it, with 2 of the units the magnet is just strong enough to hold the stylus in place and with the 4th unit it stays more in place because of the fit the stylus has in the hole then actual magnetic power.
Might be a nice mod to find the location of the magnet or magnetized metal in there and amp it a bit.
EDIT: ooh, forget about what I just said, a lil metal test with the stylus shows that the magnets aren't in the device but in the stylus.
Might be a good idea to put a stronger magnet in the stylus you have.
stronger magnet doesn't damege device?
Hi guys,
I was thinking of buying this case for my phone and wanted to know if anybody already got it.
http://www.telefon.de/produkt.asp?gruppe=110_108350_1001332&products_id=52819
I've heard some people had problems with signal strength and GPS with similar Cases on The Diamond.
Or would you recommend to get a plastic one like: link
or silico one like: link
or the Shield Protector for the hole device?
Thanks in advance for your replys!
Hello. I'm a great fan of these cases. I have it now on the topaz and had on a p3300. No problem for signals.
Watch out that the model you are looking has no plastic to protect the screen.
Also I would buy it from ebay...
Well i went for the plastic one as it only costed 3,50euros and i can say it is quite good.
Just also a quick heads up, the silicon cases also increase friction soo if u put it into ur pockets, its hard to take it out