Atom as a remote control? - iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading

Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone has tried any remote control software on the Atom and if so, how did it work? Is the iR strong enough to use as a remote. Thanks in advance for your help.
Todd

I thing IR on Atom is not useble (IR on the right side, not on the top)
the best power IR was in Ipaq2210 :wink:

It's useless with direct IR, just like most PPC's. What you can do is to use NetRemote with a computer with IR blaster (like the USB-UIRT). Look at www.promixis.com and you'll see the solutions.

I workd very well on my MDA Compact so it should work even better on atom. Use NoviiRemote, it is almost designed for the pocketpc!

ive found it to be totally useless ...
it works fine but has no range
2 meters is about its limit on all devices i have tried
it is however reliable and works properly at short distances

imapfsr said:
Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone has tried any remote control software on the Atom and if so, how did it work? Is the iR strong enough to use as a remote. Thanks in advance for your help.
Todd
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I used Noviremote trial version (15 days free use) and it worked fine within 3 metres range to control my TV, Sat receiver, but did not find the software useful enough to buy the progem after the 15 day trial. You can find some choices here: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/awards/category_WandF_2005.asp?catid=45#TVandStereoRemote

Leso said:
I workd very well on my MDA Compact so it should work even better on atom. Use NoviiRemote, it is almost designed for the pocketpc!
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i installed NoviiRemote Deluxe on my Atom Exec but i'm not happy with it cuz the range is so limited, about a little more than 1 foot, and that's practically useless. this software had worked great on my O2 XDA Mini, though.

You can improve the range by attaching a magnifying lens to the IR port.. Someone had tried it on some other forum. But the trick is to get a lens small enough to stick it on to the IR port.

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SX56 + WM2003 = iMATE- (Camera+Bluetooth+400Mhz cpu)?????

Ok i just Upgraded the SX56 to the new WM2003 OS.
Since i have not tested the iMate/XDAII, my question is are they the same? Himalaya inside, Wallaby outside?
Info on my tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7617
Some questions about the OS as well since i am new to the PPC platform:
Is there a way to assign pics to contacts for caller ID like the sony ericsson T610?
Can you guys recommend some cool/ must have, softwares/applications/games for the PPC device? Anything that you feel is worth mentioning would be good! Thanls!
Regards,
Taimur
SX56 + WM2003 = garbage!
Really? how come?
cgigate said:
SX56 + WM2003 = garbage!
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Contrary to your comments the SX56 is running way better than my expectations! i have been using various softwares on it and it runs very well
Even using it as a universal remote for my TV/DVD/Hometheater etc.
Phone ringing is finally audible
Phone and contacts list is much more interactive.
reception is bleeding good!
Onboard 32mb sux but i am using the 256mb SDcard anyways so no compains there.
Battery time is awesome
colors are dull
no cam and no blue tooth but for the price i just cant complain! $350 and its not network locked.
So what garbage part am i missing?
it's not garbage :wink:
You can cook your own rom, I haven't seen any rom kitchens for XDA 2...
I like the universal remote part too. The XDA 2/MDA 2/imate don't use consumer ir =\
All you have to do is get a bluetooth SD card or a wifi card, and then overclock the device to 300 MHz
I like the universal remote part too
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hhmmm i always found it kinda useless that i could use my xda1 as a remote when placing the xda1 30cm in front of the tv or stereo
that was it's range
Thanks!
Thnaks man the Blue tooth does sound sweet! got any brands that you wanna recommend? i am searching but i cant find one that will be concealed once in the slot. the one i saw had antennas etc. on em. Maybe i am looking at the wriong place.
Overclock haha! no i aint going there!!! I have a box of 11 CPUs that i fried so i dont think i can get a replacement if i fry the XDA cpu.
cheers!
Taimur
Rudegar said:
I like the universal remote part too
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hhmmm i always found it kinda useless that i could use my xda1 as a remote when placing the xda1 30cm in front of the tv or stereo
that was it's range
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It does work well for my Philips TV and DVD, which i operate from my bed, but i have the same issue with my Panasonic Theatersystem, for which i have to sit up and extend my hand
my tv is philips aswell and it only worked at a range of 30cm
about bluetooth and wifi then you cant use sdIO cards in a xda1
and no wifi or bluetooth cards i've seen can work without that
Rudegar said:
my tv is philips aswell and it only worked at a range of 30cm
about bluetooth and wifi then you cant use sdIO cards in a xda1
and no wifi or bluetooth cards i've seen can work without that
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30 cm is nothing !! even my Newborn baby is 48 cms the foot of my bed is probably about 4 feet away from the TV so i am using it at atleast 5+ ft or more distance. It could be the software that you are using. The forst Universal Remote that i tried failed to work saying reinitilaising obexchange please soft reset for changes to take place. second one would work right after learning then crashed. the one from pdawin.com works fine for me. makes me extend occasionally though but works!

Video call? (Considering buying)

So,
HTC Athena = Advantage = X7500/X7501, right?
Assuming so, i read here that the X7501 has lost the front camera, does this mean that there's no video calls on it? Is there video calls in WM6 at all? If i buy a X7500, then upgrade to WM6, will i be able to video call?
And, if a store announces selling a "HTC Advantage", how can i tell if it's a x7500 or x7501? should they know if i call them?
Oh, and can this "phone" be used without a handsfree or is it too much of a brick (I have an Universal today, and it's OK for me without handsfree)
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Yes
X7501 doesn't have the webcam, (the camera on the same side as the screen)
See above.
Yes, it can, but it will be more like a speakerphone and all around you will hear the convo.
Madhadder said:
Yes
X7501 doesn't have the webcam, (the camera on the same side as the screen)
See above.
Yes, it can, but it will be more like a speakerphone and all around you will hear the convo.
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I agree but would add - the 7501 is mainly in the US market.
As to using this as a phone held to your head - this unit is much bigger than a Uni (my previous phone was a Uni). My personal epxerience is that I was happy to hold the Uni to my ear. The Advantage is just too big to do so mpore than only occasionally. Use an earpiece.
My experience is that Bluetooth also works better with the Athena than any other phone I've used. Even my Universal. ;-)
I second that Itxda
Using the Athena without a head set is annoying to me. It is much more akward than the Uni. I agree with Itxda that the BT is better with the Athena. I use the LG Style-I for day time, Kenwood KCA-BT100 on the Nav unit in my daily driver and the Jawbone when I feel like it. All work very well with Athena.
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Using the Athena without a head set is annoying to me. It is much more akward than the Uni. I agree with Itxda that the BT is better with the Athena. I use the LG Style-I for day time, Kenwood KCA-BT100 on the Nav unit in my daily driver and the Jawbone when I feel like it. All work very well with Athena.
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I also have the Jawbone (for daily use) and the LG Style-I and Jabra500 as a backup, in case I drain the battery on my Jawbone. Has only happened to me once.
Madhadder said:
Yes
X7501 doesn't have the webcam, (the camera on the same side as the screen)
See above.
Yes, it can, but it will be more like a speakerphone and all around you will hear the convo.
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The X7501 doesn't have a VC camera since it is intended for the US market only, where the GSM carriers (or any other for that matter) have yet to implement the IMS needed for VideoCalling.
The closest we have is AT&T Video Share Calling, which is a cheap copy- its onle way calling, and it isn't compatible with the VC cameras on Euro 3G phones, AFAIK/have tested.
Thanks so much for all the replies, very insightful. Gonna make sure i buy a bt handsfree with it, preferrably with number display.
Is there any way possible (with any BT device) to display contact name instead of number?
Any recommendations on BT handsfree with big/long number/text display?
Michael
bheam said:
Thanks so much for all the replies, very insightful. Gonna make sure i buy a bt handsfree with it, preferrably with number display.
Is there any way possible (with any BT device) to display contact name instead of number?
Any recommendations on BT handsfree with big/long number/text display?
Michael
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BlueAnt V12 has LCD display but numbers only. Good range, great price.
Jabra BT8010 will display names... with a little work. Good range, expensive.
Note that both have a "vibrate" feature which I find very helpful since the phone doesn't have this feature.
Good luck!

InfraRed for HD

Hi all,
what do you think about this InfraRed Adapter
Is it possible to use such a device with Blackstone ???
I just found this one ... click.
If you like to DIY , look here.
As I can see e need this Sound-to-IR adapter from Griffin Technologies!!!
Their product Total Remote 5001-RMT /which is discontinued btw/ is ONLY transmitter. Anyway it uses software with big list of supported devices.
Adding an IR port to the HD sounds cool, but what are you going to use it for?
Communicating with old devices? or just to use it as an expensive remote?
Only for making it universal remote control.
puhonder said:
Only for making it universal remote control.
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I've bought a used ipaq 3715 from ebay for that purpose and can confirm using a PPC as remote control is excellent option.
(Though looking at 320x240 screen, after having seen HD, kinda hurts the eyes. )
I may buy few IR diodes for experiments...
I am also interested in adding an infrared port...

Tv remote control

*update, the conclusion is that the current software is useless and as of the ppc6800 and the following HTC models, the IRDA port is either crap or non-existent, for that reason I am building a powered, universal adapter to turn any phone into a remote*
hello. first off, yes I know there are old threads about this, but they are dead and had a different take on this topic. I am looking to know if anyone has gotten any tv remote control software working on the mogul. I don't care about the distance so I dont want to hear about how the mogul is ill-equipped to do this, I just want to know what software works as I will use\make a IR repeater\booster that will give me all the range I need.
I have tried the following software
1-PDAWin tv remote controller simply crashes when I press any button
2- noviiRemote is not compatible with our IR
3- RemoteControl II v.2.12 stays it is incompatible with our processor and for that reason, it turns off the IR access... but the rest of the software works ??? odd
4- UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 Tested by wagonis, froze his phone with every try
5- Total Remote does not work, freezes when I try to record a signal.
Untested
6- UltraMote
can't find
7- VITO remote
so to recap. Has anyone found a working software? I will give a free IR booster\repeater to anyone who can point me to a proper and working programmable universal remote control software that works over IR and not the web (or even better, anyone who can get PDAWin tv remote working )
thanks.
Honestly, I've tried 4 different softwares from that list and none worked, if anything they kept crashing my phone...so I gave up before I caused any damage to my phone. If you figure out which one works though, please list it, I'd like to know and try it.
can I know which was teh 4th that did not work so I can update my list please?
UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 froze up my phone every time I tried to use it
Many have tried. I am pretty sure no one has succeeded.
in my best Airplane - The Movie voice
"good luck, we're all counting on you"
my best suggestion is to buy an older known compatible phone with stronger irda
i looked into it a bit ago and came up with a good solution and found two of the phones on ebay for $20...but never bought them
i know it would be convenient to use our daily cell for this feature...but its an uphill battle
dont give up...lol
double post
Since the whole software thing does not seem to work... I am going to set out on making my own! My goal is to make a universal-universal remote app; even cross-platform, and the way I will do this is with external hardware. Since most new phones do not have a good IR port, I will make an external IR port that plugs into phones, mark my words!
I will keep people up to date on this
I'll subscribe to this thread to keep tabs on this. Good luck.
Well I am very excited to say that things are moving along nicely. Unfortunately, my local electronics supply shop (that is actually worth going to) is closed during weekends since its a small business who's main clients are engineering students during the year . This means that My full prototype (with range booster) will have to wait, but the basic premise is working, and, depending on my schedule, I should have a working prototype soon. I have already gotten in contact with a few chinese companies to compare the price of production of the modules.
well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
julienrl said:
well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
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Why not make all? Powered and not. Corded and not. Are you encasing the electronics? If just for the Mogul how 'bout a phone case type add on putting the IR port on the right end of the phone while you're at it so we don't have to rotate our screens? That being said, with the Mogul getting dated, how 'bout for newer phones lacking IR ports all together like the touch pro and touch pro 2? Oh, maybe someone could help you out with bluetooth.
Well its not just for the mogul, it is going to work universally for all HTC phones and will be one little tweak away from working with other phones.
As far as corded or not, I think I will make it non corded and then you can just add it. It will cost a few cents extra but save alot on production costs of 2 different modules (if I go with powered, unpowered can easily be both).
The reason I am not doing powered and unpowered is that the powered requires a case and a battery and starts getting a little big (the size of half a thumb approximately), while the unpowered one is about 0.5mmx0.5mm. Also, making the powered one requires a much greater production cost as it would be made in china because if I make it myself, the powered one would be about 4 inches by 2 inches as I can't make the small traces myself, many of the parts are hard to come by and suftace mount is hard to do.
The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
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The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
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Thats ok, this is a hardware\software combination so the IR will work.
I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
Manicmoguladdict said:
I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
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lol I hear ya. Everything is being delayed because the store I usually go to was selling IR LEDs for 4 bucks and they don't specify voltage so I had to order some online. I just need to get that stupid LED so that I can be done with the hardware and get working on the software.
I am still waiting on those diodes. I bought molding and casting material so that our IR emitters will look better than a loose set or components soldered on an extusb port
Anyone going to china who can buy ExtUSB ports for 50 cents with the breakout port? I got that quote from a company but I don't like sending unsecured payments and 10$ per extusb port + breakout board is going to make it pretty expensive for us. If so, let me know, I would like to buy a batch.
thanks.
since our device will work on many phones, instead of creating threads in every forum of every device, we decided to opt for a twitter account where we will keep everyone up to date on this project.
Spread the word!
http://twitter.com/wrctweets
Found this thread searching for a Bluetooth to IR converter, so I could use my Rhodium as a universal remote.
I was wondering... since all modern smartphones have Bluetooth, why not make a powered BT -> IR converter, which uses the HID standard? Since most phones have a HID application already (my old SE K750i could be used to control my desktop computer with HID), you don't need a lot of development on the phones itself. You'd need a way to program the conversion table (key 5 -> send PLAY IR sequence), I guess. You could then have a simple HID remote on simple phones or a full blown custom skinnable remote on a WVGA smartphone.
It would really be nice to have a Philips Pronto (or similar) universal remote where you can operate all sorts of equipment.
unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
ps. I do appreciate all feedback and comments.
thank you
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unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
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sorry for being off topic, but do you know when the touch pro 2 is coming out in Canada ? And who's gonna get it telus, roger, fido or bell ?? (hope this is coming to Telus)
hehe, its out with telus waiting for mine in the mail now!
Inbound Ir
Will your Module accept inbound ir transfer? I am using a polar hr monitor that uses ir to download files to my phone. I've been looking for an upgrade option with ir without success. If your module will work, this is great news. Keep up the good work.

Need Programmers, hackers *htc touch pro cdma*

Hello everyone I am looking for any programmers, hackers that develop a RFID remote program to open my garage door. If you know of any programs that could do that please tell me. I already tried tweaking G-remote but it doesn't work.
The HTC touch Pro does not have an RFID transmitter.
You need an RFID enabled device ( Intermec) and the RFID adapter to communicate with your RFID device. I am curious on one thing, is your garage RFID or Infra Red? there is a huge difference...
If your garage is IR, then most of the handheld phones do not have IR range strong enough to emit to these.
Isn't the HTC touch Pro RFID, and IR compatible so that you can you can use it as a remote like G-remote. Hell you can control anything with g remote why not a garage door, everything is possible right ? and it would be nice that you could open any garage doors if you have the DIP switch codes.?
look everyone if I could I would do this myself but I can't, so money could be involved in exchange for what I am looking for.
thank you,
HTC Raphael not a G-Remote
I have worked with a lot of RFID and IR devices. The simple answer about this phone it is not RFID capable.
Now for IR. the device has an IR port. But it does not have enough wave strengh to broadcast at distances longer than 3 to 5 feet. So in order to do what you want we would need to replace the IR Sensor,Get additional power and write the code to interface with the device and OS. All these mods would void the warranty on the device and make it cost prohibitive, but if you got time and lot's of money it is a cool project.
WinCe soft has created some remote software for TV and DVRs.
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=22506&associateid=17
Also you can take a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/campaigns/fastertomarket.aspx?WT.srch=1
and see if someone has a device with the capabilities you are looking for.
well well then I tought I was screwed but since you know alots about RFID & IR maybe you could help me, find another way, and a better understanding. I saw somewhere somekind of old radio that reads RFID and records everything ex. listening to a phone and get the voicemail code through RFID, recording the DIP codes etc. What is that ?
Intermec ?
Here is the link for Intermec RFID readers
This plugs in to their 700 Model ( which also supports bar code and Cell GSRM Band), This connects via IR to the device so we may be able to use the SDK and connect to the Touch Pro.
http://www.onesource.intermec.com/products/rfid2_ip4/index.aspx
Send me a PM and I can get s general idea of what you are trying to acomplish...
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Now for IR. the device has an IR port.
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Ok, this is driving me nuts.
Could you please tell me in simple, layman's terms *exactly* where the IR port is located on a CDMA Touch Pro? I can't find anything that looks like a window.
Why not mod the garage door rather than the TP?
ronin said:
I have worked with a lot of RFID and IR devices. The simple answer about this phone it is not RFID capable.
Now for IR. the device has an IR port. But it does not have enough wave strengh to broadcast at distances longer than 3 to 5 feet. So in order to do what you want we would need to replace the IR Sensor,Get additional power and write the code to interface with the device and OS. All these mods would void the warranty on the device and make it cost prohibitive, but if you got time and lot's of money it is a cool project.
WinCe soft has created some remote software for TV and DVRs.
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=22506&associateid=17
Also you can take a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/campaigns/fastertomarket.aspx?WT.srch=1
and see if someone has a device with the capabilities you are looking for.
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Maybe instead of modding the TP, you could find a suitable module to convert your garage door to Bluetooth. Just a thought, but it would save you having to void the warranty on your TP.
mstevens said:
Ok, this is driving me nuts.
Could you please tell me in simple, layman's terms *exactly* where the IR port is located on a CDMA Touch Pro? I can't find anything that looks like a window.
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CDMA Touch Pro does not have IR port...

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