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This goes out to the DEV's and or anyone with some insight to this question.
I was wondering if the Extrom was unlocked, could it be possible to reduce its size and allocate the extra memory to the system memory via a reg or file hack.
im thinking that since it is part of the actual onboard memory, and with the pagepool utilites that have been developed, it might be possible. that extra 6mb or so coming from the extrom added to the existing system ram would, or should really be a big performance enhancement, The extrom is basically just a waste of space on my phone right now.
so im gonna work on first unlocking the extrom and then look into the above mentioned idea.
if anyone has some info that would help or know why this physically cant be done, let me know k. I dont want to be kicking a dead horse (or mogul) for nothing,
thanks for time
you must modify flashdrv.dll to consume the extrom space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360461
i have been unable to do this for titan
Furthermore it would be storage space, NOT ram.
if the Extrom is actually a ramdrive. A RAM disk is a software abstraction that treats a segment of random access memory (RAM) as secondary storage, a role typically filled by hard drives. Software ramdisks use the normal RAM in main memory as if it were a partition on a hard drive, thus which bypasses the need for the bus, because the partition is actually the Ram just separated, and it is just a writing of a software program that does it/ ie: the pagepool utility and a pagepool is basically a RAM drive. Since we know there are no harddrives in the phone and i believe there is just 1 stick of memory, from what i remember when i watched a utube video of someone taking apart the titan. What im trying to say is that if it is just 1 actual stik of memory partitioned into 3 sections, well then i would pretty much be in business. i know how to manually edit partition addresses and correct the mbr to reflect the right size and location of them. i bet the Extrom is in between the storage mem and the system mem. just taketh from 1 and give to the other( the robinhood effect)
so its a matter of getting past the permission issue which prevents me from checking these things out. thanks DCD for the tip with the flashdrv.dll file, thats the kind of info i need, im gonna look further into this and keep u posted, ill let u know what i find out in a couple of days.
it would be great if it turns out we can resize the storage mem and add it to the system mem.
thanks for your time
ive been looking for something like this.
and it would be insanly awesome if someone managed this.
kinda like readyboost for vista
exept useful
i got a good lead from DCD as to where to start, wish me luck
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if the Extrom is actually a ramdrive. A RAM disk is a software abstraction that treats a segment of random access memory (RAM) as secondary storage, a role typically filled by hard drives. Software ramdisks use the normal RAM in main memory as if it were a partition on a hard drive, thus which bypasses the need for the bus, because the partition is actually the Ram just separated, and it is just a writing of a software program that does it/ ie: the pagepool utility and a pagepool is basically a RAM drive. Since we know there are no harddrives in the phone and i believe there is just 1 stick of memory, from what i remember when i watched a utube video of someone taking apart the titan. What im trying to say is that if it is just 1 actual stik of memory partitioned into 3 sections, well then i would pretty much be in business. i know how to manually edit partition addresses and correct the mbr to reflect the right size and location of them. i bet the Extrom is in between the storage mem and the system mem. just taketh from 1 and give to the other( the robinhood effect)
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the extrom is written across flashrom, not RAM.
then maybe ill look and see if i can use it like a swap file. i might have to get creative. i'll be looking into this more extensive later and see what we can do with what we got, and maybe we might be able to come up with something. i have some free time at work later to look it over.
But u r right as rom will hold data when there is no power going thru it unlike ram, which holds no data if there is no power.
AFAIK WM doesnt have the ability to utilize a swap file, otherwise i would gladly give up some ROM memory to swap (i always have at least 80mb free)
that just might be the case, BUT im thinkin that there are some definite possibilities as to what we might be able to do if we take a thorough look at the situation, im talking to someone who might open up there titan for me to get a peek at the inside. Anyways im at work right now, but if there is something that can be done, by gosh well figure it out
You're hopefulness is admirable, but misplaced. The flash section on the titan (and most other HTC devices) has simply been formatted into multiple partitions, one of which is extended rom. You can't hope to gain anything but an extra 10 megs in the storage area, and we have PLENTY there already. Please put your reversing/hacking skill to use in other projects we need to accomplish.
well ive been around here long enough to know that when Shadowmite speaks,
u better listen!
i hear u loud and clear
Alright im not going to create a thread for this BUT, Shadowmite, what do u think of the possibility of creating a multi-boot out of the titan ( running both wm5 and wm6 on the phone) i have on my pc xp-vista-and hackintosh. when i start my computer i have "system commander " a 3rd party app provide me the option of booting into 1 of the 3 OS'es. they r on completely seperate partitions and independent of each other.
anyways i got time to kill while im at work so ill look into it, checked out your website, pretty kool, ill leave the RAM alone k, gotta go
catch u l8r
lol, I'm wrong sometimes. For instance when I said the titan had no built in gps. Granted I was working off of pictures others uploaded and trusted that they knew what to snap pics of.
DualBooting, oh boy. That question has always been a hot topic on devices, and in the titan's case it's "moderately" possible. We have enough flash memory you could potentially partition off another 50 or so megs to another OS version and flash it onto it. However we're talking needing a custom bootloader written that could understand the ID of the extra parition as well as setup and boot it when whatever keystroke you have setup is pressed. I would say this is a college computer science students project which would take near an entire semester of on the side tinkering with it. It's doable, but pretty complicated. If you really wanted to work on this talk to Olipro and see if he can give some pointers or a database file for IDA of an SPL. And start reversing.
Hi,
this seems to be the right place for the question, but I'm sure the answer will be applicable to other phone. Assuming there is going to be an answer
Stupidly, yours truly downloaded and installed hotfix from here http://www.htc.com/www/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=140&act=sd&cat=all in the hopes of improving audio quality. Well, this apparently was not meant for CDMA (or US phones). After installing the phone rebooted and got stuck at the Touch Pro screen where it lists FW/SW versions in red towards the bottom. The phone can not get past that point no matter what I do (reset, battery remove/replace) or how long I wait (overnight). Sprint 'suggested' hard reset (thank you very much) and HTC said they have no fix for that either. Well, if you have not guessed it already, I have not backed up the data on that phone. Ever.
Not smart
The phone was running stock SF/FW before. I have not had time to mess with it.
US$64K question is: Could I retrieve the phone book? Any other data that was not on SD card (that one is safe)? Is there a chance to recover data AFTER hard reset? Anything else the smart folk out there can recommend?
Thanks a lot in advance.
try flashing via SD card
If its stuck at the bootloader mode (the tri color screen) i thing its possible to flash it via SD card.
there is plenty of info around or check out the Raphael wiki.
There is a chance it is not bricked.
(i seriouslly doubt is it because the HTC hotfix cannot do that)
Let me know if you need any more help my email me at hotmail
best regards.... Erik
The screen looks like this: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/cadillacjew/TP-1.jpg
with some test indicating SW/ROM etc versions in RED at the bottom. If it is important I can upload the picture of it.
Also may take you up on your offer. Need those contacts, otherwise I'm so screwed
I dunno, it sounds like you're going to need a hard reset. That will fix the problem, I'm sure. Have you tried connecting by active sync? I'm 99.999% positive it won't work, but it wouldn't hurt to at least try and see if you can pull pim.vol off of it. Also, you might download ceregeditor (just google it) and install it on your pc, and see if you can dump the registry from the phone. But I have a bad feeling you're screwed.
Is this really the end of the road?
Yes, I (and Sprint store that I went to) tried connecting the phone via usb and it was not even recognized as a device. Hard reset sounds goo, but it will erase the data. Before I take that drastic measure I'd like to make sure there is nothing else I could do.
I'm willing to pay some money to a forensics company to extract the data, but can not find one that looks trustworthy and experienced when it comes to Win mobile phones. Any recommendations, btw?
I have no clue; you might try one of the rom dumping procedures. I think that some may dump the rom and all the info on the phone; I've never done it myself (well, I've played with grab_it on another device, with little success). I believe that some will dump all the info on the phone (rom + stuff in main memory). But I can't tell you how to do it, I'm afraid, and I have no clue if it will work on your phone.
You can check these tools-maybe there's something there.
Most likely everything is gone.
I have to sadly agree. This sounds like something only a hard reset would fix.
Any possibility of data recovery after hard reset? Anybody knows of a way to that? Of course this is wishful thinking on my part, but I'm pretty desperate now.
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Any possibility of data recovery after hard reset? Anybody knows of a way to that? Of course this is wishful thinking on my part, but I'm pretty desperate now.
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Unfortunately, it seems that you are stuck. I do not know of any way to recover your data if the device is stuck on bootloader since, as you pointed out, the device does not get recognized by the computer.
Anything that you do at this point might end up making things worse if you are not careful. Just cut your losses and hard reset the device.
its not in booloader mode, dumping the ROM sounds like a good and only way to go, try it, it wont hurt you, if that dont work i'd say its pretty much dead with no way to recover it, unless the info is unrecoverable (spell?) hard reset it.....
best regards. Erik
The only issue with your suggestion is that I'm no longer in possession of the phone. I had to leave it in the Sprint store in order to walk out with working phone. I can go back to the store and try to get the data off of my old phone. They are holding it for me.
However, I need to know what to do exactly and be able to do it quickly. So if there are easy to follow instructions that you can point me to, please do so.
Also after dumping ROM what data will I have?
TIA for all your help.
your data will be gone but try putting a raphimg.nbh file on the memory card then holding power and volume down while hitting the reset button, that will flash you off the mem card. good luck. Ive had to do this several times due to bad flashes and vista issues. Oh and as an added thought start using microsoft myphone to back up your data in the future.
Thanks for your suggestion. I will try this in a week or so when I'm back in town.
Also myphone is something that should work. I actually did not know about it until this past Monday. I have not looked at any MS-based backup solutions because I'm not using their software, if I can avoid it. So while I have a Windows PC I do not have Outlook installed and thus have never given my phone a chance to sync up. Kind of silly, I know.
I had bitpm installed on another system that went bad. I've replaced it with a new one, retrieved other files and data, but forgot about Bitpm folder
So few lessons learned ...
Thanks again to all who provided feedback.
It sucks if you lost everything, but you should be able to put your phone in bootloader and connect it to your pc through usb. The only question is if you can dump the rom that way and if you can dump all the files on it with the rom. The only problem is that some of the rom dumping methods (like with pdocread, I think) require you to transfer a file to your \windows directory, which you're not going to be able to do. It's a long shot at best.
I back up my pim stuff 3 different ways-I think you want to do it in multiple ways just to be safe. My main method is using sk tools and its backup tool. You can separately back up the pim database and the messaging databases (not as important to me). You can also back up email accounts with sk tools (using the pim information tool). These are my main backups, and I keep them on my sd card, and occasionally transfer them to a hard drive (it's not that big of a deal if the hard drive backup is a month out of date to me). I also use Pimbackup 2.8, and store that on my sd card (and hard drive). I don't use it for restoring anymore, because it's pretty slow with 6.5 roms in my experience. Finally, I have a file backup mortscript that I use that backs up user data for various apps; I use it to restore the data after flashes. Anyway, included in the script is a command to copy pim.vol to my sd card. I never restore my pim files by copying pim.vol back to main memory, but I like having it saved just in case, and it doesn't take any time to run the script (FYI-all your contacts, tasks and calendar stuff is stored in pim.vol, which is on the root of your device). Anyway, I feel like my pim databases are pretty safe-it would take an awful lot of bad things to happen for them to be lost, and I'd probably be dead in half of those scenarios, lol.
You're going to lose everything. The phone will not boot and as a result, all your data is unrecoverable. Next time, use a back up solution like Google Sync.
Do a hard-reset on it and you should be good to go. Turn the phone off, hold the volume down key, the center dpad key, and then hold the power button. It'll come up to a screen with hard reset instructions. Push the volume up key here. It'll be ready to go like it's brand new out of the box.
Lost everything, but .... happy
Hi,
thanks to everyone who replied. Just wanted to post and update so we can close this thread.
As I indicated before, Sprint has replaced my phone with Touch Pro 2 when I came to them with this problem. They did it beacuse they no longer have loaner phones and because I was about to go on 10 day business trip.
After using the new phone for 2 weeks, I got to tell you that this one is a leap forward compare to the the old. So I'm happy with new device, installing software and trying to recreate my Address Book by dumping my friends and family's data via Bluetooth. Backing up using MyPhone and about to install Outlook (not going to use it for anything else but the backup)
Also, I finally went to Sprint store and asked them one more time if they can think of any other way to recover the data. I even mentioned bootloader. They did not know/could not do it. I asked them to hard reset and after few tries the phone was restored to it's original state. Not a trace of my data .
Would be nice if in the future I could save contacts (and other data) directly to SD card. IMO it will give better chance of recovery, but I'm not sure it is possible.
Again thanks to all who tried to help. Much appreciated.
Same problem sort of
I tried to load Energy Rom 28005 and now can't get pro to do any thing but restart every 15 seconds or so. any ideas on what can be done? tia.
Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy. Best to just learn. Watch some YouTube videos. Be careful. Have fun.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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You missed the part in the OP about not having the proper tools. No amount of reading or studying or preparing can help when the tool is made for Windows and you're running a Mac (or no computer at all).
OP -- I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who do (or would help you with) flashing ROMs but a lot of that is going to depend on where you live. Best bet: Craigslist and see if you can find someone in the Cell Phones section who does that. Denver (yes... where I am) has a ton of shops that will flash custom ROMs for you - but of course they want you to pay for the privilege.
However - I would really recommend finding someone local and trustworthy. Don't EVER send someone your device, because let's be honest - you'll most likely never see it again unless you're sending it to a real business.
bmstrong said:
Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
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First....start off at YouTube, and watch people root the Nexus One over ADB. You'll learn a few tricks...but most importantly, you'll learn your way around the device manager and the command prompt in windows. While it may seem daunting at first...there are only a few commands you'll need to learn.
That solves the problem you'd have with rooting and installing Clockwork Mod (the basis for flashing any new ROMs.
Lastly...if you can find a valid windows installation (or you can even use a 90 day trial version of windows 7 enterprise) you'll want to install boot camp on your Mac...which allows you to run windows on your Mac. Easily.
By no means am I an android powerhouse, but I do work in IT and am handy with a device manager, various hosts, and windows and Mac.
The next best option would be to offer someone here 10-20 bucks to show you over Skype, or do it for you using go to meeting.
Remember 1 thing. Its actually hard to brick a device if you do a few things.
Only flash RC or final versions of ROMs. In general. These have been THOUROUGHLY tested. The more feedback for a ROM the better. Learn to search threads here frequently.
Don't go about customizing the software by flashing mods (until your more comfortable). Android provides a perfect host system for providing customization via the Play store. Widgets...toggles...backgrounds. Notification tweaks, and almost everything else you'll need can be found on the play store and easily uninstalled.
Lastly...always keep a backup of you're system
via Nandroid, and keep a backup of your apps with Titanium backup.
If you have any more questions....feel free to ask them here or PM me.
You can start by researching "how to do a Nandroid" and "what is clockwork recovery mod" in your favorite search engine.
If you think you can follow the simple steps of performing a Nandroid and you can find your way around Clockwork Recovery Mod....there really isn't much to worry about.
Bricking your device can usually be fixed in the case of a soft brick or boot loop. The real bricking usually happens when you flash software meant for another device, or don't follow instructions.
Once you've flashed your first ROM...you'll find that the process is remarkably similar for all mods ROMs and other packages.
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Now that sounds like a plan. Hmmm. Maybe I can do this myself. Now I need to find a stock stable ICS with NFC enabled. Even better would be one to take advantage of the radio hidden by AT&T. It would be nice to have the option to pop and flop.
Exactly. Once the initial root and new recovery menu is done then you are set. Between a CWM nandroid, Titanium Backup, MybackupPro, and even Appsaver your only real limitation is set by how large your external sdcard is.
You can even use online storage sites like Minus, Google Drive, Drop Box etc to host all of the files so that you can access them anywhere.
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
I am running Flapjaxx Unofficial ICS and it is super smooth. I plan on switching to his latest though once it is finished downloading.
netsyd said:
Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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+1 on any Flappjaxxx ROM btw. So you pull your external sd? Have you ever had an issue or is it just a precaution?
Sent from Galaxy Note
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Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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Yeah. I use both Drive and Dropbox, so no worries. The larger question I have is why do I need to back some of this stuff up? I've never been a big application guy. This Note has 4? Maybe 5 apps on it, aside from the stock Google services. SMS/MMS get deleted instantly or saved into the Cloud. And email moved with my Gmail account and that gets barfed back into each Mobile I use very easily.
Titanium backup seems like a pain in the ass. All I'm after is a clean stock ICS build, a way to shut off the hard keys and replace them with soft buttons, and that MHL works. Turning this Note into a portable LTE MHL Chromebox with a fantastic screen. The option to flop and plop would be nice...
you dont have to back up, but personally i would like to have my own personal backup of stock. of course there are stock odins around here. but in your situation it might be more handy on the cloud to access anytime. you might want to use the back up to flash back to for when they release ics over the air.
Service makes some sense
If you've read many of the questions that some poeple ask on these forums, it really makes me think that certain people really shouldn't be trying some of these things themselves. Most of us have no problem reading and understanding rudimentary steps to get us going, but some people come in with little to no foundation in these matters; what we're saying really is Greek to them. I feel bad, but for these people, I encourage them to seek out someone that knows, at least on a basic level, what they are doing.
I've written looooong, detailed tutorials for people and I'm glad to do it. But sometimes even after that, I get the feeling that these people will still end up messing their phones up. I've been proven right on at least two occasion and I can't help but feel bad... So maybe a pool of people in each area capable and willing to do these kinds of things might make sense. Haven't thought through how that would work, but maybe. Hmmm...
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Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
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Im using team perfections ics ucle2 objection with rc1 its great as well as fj's
sent from team perfections ics rom
Extremely interesting process and results. I still have a host of questions, why certain things are done in a certain order, what exactly some of the things do that I did, and why when I did not make a back up of anything, it said specifically that it failed, some of my apps and vids are still here in the new FJ ROM. Just a fasincinating first time experience from someone who has always used stock Nexi. The ROM isn't really my taste, I hate Apex and there is bloat apps in it. But!
I feel like the old Quantum Leap show...
You can debloat with tibu. Also, you can use any launcher you want.
Sent from Galaxy Note
I am Johnny-come-lately to this debranding scheme. I am in America, but I chose to downgrade to the Euro Rom. Half of it was a success, the other half a failure. The four lines on the top all said okay. The installation that follows went about a line and a half and errored out with the line: wrong or improper sign, which I suppose could be short for "signature". Anyway when I rebooted the phone it got to the HTC screen and froze right there. Also it is in the boot loop. I tried reinstalling the Rom, but it gave the same results. I haven't been able to install SPL 2.05 either. I would like to move forward. But without an OS on the phone, nothing else recognizes it. I have been using the GC method with a single card reader and an SD card. I gave an 8Gb SanDisk flash drive a try but to no avail. I have also tried the various naming variations that are employed here and there. So what does the error message mean? What are my chances of going forward with the Cingular rom so as to finish HSPLing it. Or going back to a shipped or stock rom.
EDIT: I have access to the bootloader and SPL mode.
Thanks to all of you for your unfailing support to us neophytes.
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.. I gave an 8Gb SanDisk flash drive a try but to no avail...
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Try to find non-SDHC card for gold-carding.
The best result is SD 1.0 — up to 2 Gb. That what I do always - no issues on any type of thumb drive or card with reader. Other guys here have also success with SD 1.1 which is up to 4 Gb. But 8 Gb will not work.
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Try to find non-SDHC card for gold-carding.
The best result is SD 1.0 — up to 2 Gb. That what I do always - no issues on any type of thumb drive or card with reader. Other guys here have also success with SD 1.1 which is up to 4 Gb. But 8 Gb will not work.
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My card is HD and is a single card reader. I have a 1Gb and a 4Gb thumb drives. No luck with either of the sticks, but the HD card works. I'm going to take another path. I need the file; IMG_Eternity_Cingular_US_1.10.502.04_Radio_16.23.0 2.26_A… (Radio 16). I'll be able to move forward with that. Where can I download it at?
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My card is HD and is a single card reader. I have a 1Gb and a 4Gb thumb drives. No luck with either of the sticks, but the HD card works. I'm going to take another path. I need the file; IMG_Eternity_Cingular_US_1.10.502.04_Radio_16.23.0 2.26_A… (Radio 16). I'll be able to move forward with that. Where can I download it at?
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AndrewSH is correct; I had your exact same problem but before I get ahead of myself; your device must read x310e after you install the Euro ROM; if it doesn't you're dead right there. You may be the exception but no high capacity card worked on the two Titans I did; however, I did successfully use a PNY 4 GB thumb drive; a red one in fact that comes in a two pack - red/blue thumb drives from Wal-Mart with a Y cable. I tried an 8 gigger; no dice. When you flash SPL205; you need to be really, really patience; you might say to yourself this is not doing a damn thing...give it a solid 30 minutes before you give it up for dead; out of the blue my device came alive about 15 minutes into it and successfully updated the SPL by saying bootloader ok and radio ok. I cannot stress enough how important this 2nd step is and have the patience to wait it out. You only format your thumb drive/micro SD card once; that's it; all you have to do after that is remove the 1st ROM and replace it with the baby ROM from SPL205. One more thing, if you haven't renamed the image do so...change it from ETERIMG to ETERDIAG...those 8 letters that's it. "diag" behaves differently than "img". And look, I realize this stuff makes for boring reading but read all the threads on HSPL not just the Titan; I'm not implying you read everything here...but specific to HSPL and Windows Phone 7, you bet...regardless of device. I don't want to sound like a grouchy old man here but it took me 4 days to get this right and I did a level of reading I've never done before here and I've been flashing phones a long time; there's no quick fix solution here and to be frank, it's a crap shoot; it may and again it may not work. I rewrote my own experience here...read it and do exactly what I say, no shortcuts. One day I will sit down and rewrite the darn thing in common sense language. I can't stand a tutorial written over my head and there are a few here who do great stuff but are thee worse teachers. It reminds me of a calculus teacher teaching 2nd graders..nope! I realize this is frustrating...join the party! Your phone will work after the initial flash to either the Cingular 1.10 or European 1.09 but it's like stepping back in time. And unless you're really living in a cave, there is a stock Microsoft ROM for the damn thing. Don't ask me how much sleep or the lack of sleep I got during those 4 days. There's no comparison between locked and truly unlocked; once you turn this beast loose there's no going back.
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AndrewSH is correct; I had your exact same problem but before I get ahead of myself; your device must read x310e after you install the Euro ROM; if it doesn't you're dead right there. You may be the exception but no high capacity card worked on the two Titans I did; however, I did successfully use a PNY 4 GB thumb drive; a red one in fact that comes in a two pack - red/blue thumb drives from Wal-Mart with a Y cable. I tried an 8 gigger; no dice. When you flash SPL205; you need to be really, really patience; you might say to yourself this is not doing a damn thing...give it a solid 30 minutes before you give it up for dead; out of the blue my device came alive about 15 minutes into it and successfully updated the SPL by saying bootloader ok and radio ok. I cannot stress enough how important this 2nd step is and have the patience to wait it out. You only format your thumb drive/micro SD card once; that's it; all you have to do after that is remove the 1st ROM and replace it with the baby ROM from SPL205. One more thing, if you haven't renamed the image do so...change it from ETERIMG to ETERDIAG...those 8 letters that's it. "diag" behaves differently than "img". And look, I realize this stuff makes for boring reading but read all the threads on HSPL not just the Titan; I'm not implying you read everything here...but specific to HSPL and Windows Phone 7, you bet...regardless of device. I don't want to sound like a grouchy old man here but it took me 4 days to get this right and I did a level of reading I've never done before here and I've been flashing phones a long time; there's no quick fix solution here and to be frank, it's a crap shoot; it may and again it may not work. I rewrote my own experience here...read it and do exactly what I say, no shortcuts. One day I will sit down and rewrite the darn thing in common sense language. I can't stand a tutorial written over my head and there are a few here who do great stuff but are thee worse teachers. It reminds me of a calculus teacher teaching 2nd graders..nope! I realize this is frustrating...join the party! Your phone will work after the initial flash to either the Cingular 1.10 or European 1.09 but it's like stepping back in time. And unless you're really living in a cave, there is a stock Microsoft ROM for the damn thing. Don't ask me how much sleep or the lack of sleep I got during those 4 days. There's no comparison between locked and truly unlocked; once you turn this beast loose there's no going back.
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I know what you mean, I know what mean... I have been reading a lot also. But coming late to the process, where all the posted links are dead, has left us late bloomers at a disadvantage. Thank you so much! Yeah I read the threads, and the tutorials. They were not QUITE clear enough, But the one thing I noticed right off the bat was, a LOT of people failed to simply read those posts. I read them and I can tell you that every one of them made the picture clearer. The European file errored out with a "wrong sign" or some such. So I don't even have a Rom in my phone. So I couldn't charge my battery. I bought a great little plug-in charger that I can put my battery in and charge it. Then I discovered that in Zune update mode that it will charge. So I've been doing that. I still have boot mode and PLC mode- and update mode. So I can still flash. So here goes nothing!:laugh: Thanks a cool million!
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AndrewSH is correct; I had your exact same problem but before I get ahead of myself; your device must read x310e after you install the Euro ROM; if it doesn't you're dead right there. You may be the exception but no high capacity card worked on the two Titans I did; however, I did successfully use a PNY 4 GB thumb drive; a red one in fact that comes in a two pack - red/blue thumb drives from Wal-Mart with a Y cable. I tried an 8 gigger; no dice. When you flash SPL205; you need to be really, really patience; you might say to yourself this is not doing a damn thing...give it a solid 30 minutes before you give it up for dead; out of the blue my device came alive about 15 minutes into it and successfully updated the SPL by saying bootloader ok and radio ok. I cannot stress enough how important this 2nd step is and have the patience to wait it out. You only format your thumb drive/micro SD card once; that's it; all you have to do after that is remove the 1st ROM and replace it with the baby ROM from SPL205. One more thing, if you haven't renamed the image do so...change it from ETERIMG to ETERDIAG...those 8 letters that's it. "diag" behaves differently than "img". And look, I realize this stuff makes for boring reading but read all the threads on HSPL not just the Titan; I'm not implying you read everything here...but specific to HSPL and Windows Phone 7, you bet...regardless of device. I don't want to sound like a grouchy old man here but it took me 4 days to get this right and I did a level of reading I've never done before here and I've been flashing phones a long time; there's no quick fix solution here and to be frank, it's a crap shoot; it may and again it may not work. I rewrote my own experience here...read it and do exactly what I say, no shortcuts. One day I will sit down and rewrite the darn thing in common sense language. I can't stand a tutorial written over my head and there are a few here who do great stuff but are thee worse teachers. It reminds me of a calculus teacher teaching 2nd graders..nope! I realize this is frustrating...join the party! Your phone will work after the initial flash to either the Cingular 1.10 or European 1.09 but it's like stepping back in time. And unless you're really living in a cave, there is a stock Microsoft ROM for the damn thing. Don't ask me how much sleep or the lack of sleep I got during those 4 days. There's no comparison between locked and truly unlocked; once you turn this beast loose there's no going back.
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Did I do it!? I did the files correctly. Here is what it says;
P139100
HSPL2.5. 160015.3(137079)
eMMC SND 15188MB
CotullaH(F:81,ID:1,V11,B:F8)
Radio-16.23.06.10
When the phone starts up, I still see the HTC logo in green. So did I do it!? EDIT: BTW, when I restarted it, I had about 10 updates waiting for me. They were all AT&T apps if I'm not mistaken.
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Did I do it!? I did the files correctly. Here is what it says;
P139100
HSPL2.5. 160015.3(137079)
eMMC SND 15188MB
CotullaH(F:81,ID:1,V11,B:F8)
Radio-16.23.06.10
When the phone starts up, I still see the HTC logo in green. So did I do it!? EDIT: BTW, when I restarted it, I had about 10 updates waiting for me. They were all AT&T apps if I'm not mistaken.
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Looks good. Now you have to make a decision - what custom to flash to your phone. Most of the customs here need Radio ver 17. As for me - I was using ver 17 for almost a year but than I returned to radio ver 16 - better signal quality and faster network detection (but it's absolutely the local problem of your carrier and coverage - so try by yourself). I wanna say that ver 16 and ver 17 radios need different roms - because of different OEM part. So choosing your custom - pay attention on the radio ver needed in rom description.
Thanks AndrewSh- Thanks everyone!
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Looks good. Now you have to make a decision - what custom to flash to your phone. Most of the customs here need Radio ver 17. As for me - I was using ver 17 for almost a year but than I returned to radio ver 16 - better signal quality and faster network detection (but it's absolutely the local problem of your carrier and coverage - so try by yourself). I wanna say that ver 16 and ver 17 radios need different roms - because of different OEM part. So choosing your custom - pay attention on the radio ver needed in rom description.
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Thanks! The finish seemed so anticlimactic. The struggle, the doubt, the fear, the frustration, the lack of answers, a clear path to move forward on. Now that that is over I'm feeling much better. When it came down to it, my SD card started dying. The thumb drives didn't work. Then out of the blue I put the second file on my 1Gb stick and it flashed like a champ. Then the last file flashed over the same easy way.
I'm thinking about the Deepshining Rom. I like the way it looks. I'm looking for substance, but I'm also looking for eye candy. I run Windows 7- glass, aero... Then I set up a Windows 8 machine for my wife at work. They took the glass and aero out of it. Yuck. The stock Titan Rom looks like Windows 8. Deepshining looks like it has a glass aero look to it. Vivid colors also.
Hey thanks so much for your patient, helpful tutelage for everyone in helping to get us going. I couldn't have done it without the myriad of genuinely kind people here. Thanks EVERYONE. THANKS A COOL MILLION!
hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops: p.s. i have jelly bean 4.2.2
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hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops:
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Unfortunately removing the preloaded apps won't help your storage issues at all. Those apps are located in a different part of the system (/system/app) than the apps and data (/data/app + /data/data) that you add. You can (if rooted) move apps to the /system/app partition, but they don't always work or update correctly from there as it requires special permissions to run from there. But there really isn't much to do besides rooting it and doing some modifications to your set up. They don't call em budget phones for nothing.
Options include swapping the internal and external mount points so it reads your external as your main internal storage, creating a partition on your external and using a script to link your /data/app and/or /data/data folders to that partition so it reads as one big space (however big you make that partition), or using an app like Folder Mount to create a link between big folders on the internal to the external (mostly helpful for big game data). All of these require a bit of knowledge, but nothing that some time and reading can't help you with. It is not exactly rocket science. Knowing what update you are on though is important, both so you pick the right rooting method (there are multiple options if not on 4.2.2 yet) as well as, if, worst case happens, you know what version of the software you need to reload. You can find this info under Settings / About Phone. Make note of not just the android version, but the build or system version as well as there can be mini updates to software that changes things but not the actual android version.
As far as Kingo, I've never read anything other than hearsay about any potential malicious activity on their part. The reason you see most people freaking out about it is because when it first was introduced, it was known to send IMEI info back to their servers in China. Kingo never tried to hide the fact, explained their position about why they were doing it (diagnostics), and promptly changed how that was done. Now, by nature of what it is doing (root = gaining admin access to the operating system), it needs to download closed sourced scripts and files to gain this access . They don't want to disclose their sources for 2 reasons: 1) if the manufacturers of the phones that don't want it rooted see how it is done, then it's much easier to patch that on the next update and 2) so other people don't steal their work. Makes sense to me, but some people are concerned about closed sources (even though many apps already installed or that you download are closed source as well). I've used it on quite a few devices and have never had problems. You can uninstall the companion app it installs (it does this for some devices to help gain access through a backdoor) and update the SuperSU app and binary it installs via the Play Store, so don't really see it as an issue.
bazzaboy1 said:
hey i am new to android and got myself a acer liquid e2 as was told it was a good phone for the price etc, i do find this phone very surprising and i am totally happy with it apart from 1 problem i come across about 20 times a day, "storage space" i have plenty of space on my sd card it is the phone that is the problem, and every day i need to keep clearing my data and cache as it shuts all my emails etc down when the space has run out which is annoying when it is servral times a day, i have apps on my phone which i dont use and dont need but cant delete these, ive been reasearching this now for a few weeks and everything that i have came across says root and delete, its not that simple is it? i would say that i can be quite good at this sort of stuff as ive made quite alot of my stuff to operate the way i want it, but every time i see anything about rooting it always say your phone can be bricked and i cant afford it to be bricked, i need it beleive it or not, anyway this site seems to have alot of very brainy and smart people on it, hence why i joined :good: can anyone help me with this problem, easy and safest way, will be most appreciated, i was just about to go down the kingo app way but decided to do more reasearch on it before hand and that has put me off it as people are saying there is stuff about spy cams and malware etc iplease help thanks. oh i ment to say i manage to turn my developer options on by total mistake and playing around with my phone so i have that on , if that helpsnetwork 3 in uk cheers guys.:cyclops: p.s. i have jelly bean 4.2.2
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es0tericcha0s said:
Unfortunately removing the preloaded apps won't help your storage issues at all. Those apps are located in a different part of the system (/system/app) than the apps and data (/data/app + /data/data) that you add. You can (if rooted) move apps to the /system/app partition, but they don't always work or update correctly from there as it requires special permissions to run from there. But there really isn't much to do besides rooting it and doing some modifications to your set up. They don't call em budget phones for nothing.
Options include swapping the internal and external mount points so it reads your external as your main internal storage, creating a partition on your external and using a script to link your /data/app and/or /data/data folders to that partition so it reads as one big space (however big you make that partition), or using an app like Folder Mount to create a link between big folders on the internal to the external (mostly helpful for big game data). All of these require a bit of knowledge, but nothing that some time and reading can't help you with. It is not exactly rocket science. Knowing what update you are on though is important, both so you pick the right rooting method (there are multiple options if not on 4.2.2 yet) as well as, if, worst case happens, you know what version of the software you need to reload. You can find this info under Settings / About Phone. Make note of not just the android version, but the build or system version as well as there can be mini updates to software that changes things but not the actual android version.
As far as Kingo, I've never read anything other than hearsay about any potential malicious activity on their part. The reason you see most people freaking out about it is because when it first was introduced, it was known to send IMEI info back to their servers in China. Kingo never tried to hide the fact, explained their position about why they were doing it (diagnostics), and promptly changed how that was done. Now, by nature of what it is doing (root = gaining admin access to the operating system), it needs to download closed sourced scripts and files to gain this access . They don't want to disclose their sources for 2 reasons: 1) if the manufacturers of the phones that don't want it rooted see how it is done, then it's much easier to patch that on the next update and 2) so other people don't steal their work. Makes sense to me, but some people are concerned about closed sources (even though many apps already installed or that you download are closed source as well). I've used it on quite a few devices and have never had problems. You can uninstall the companion app it installs (it does this for some devices to help gain access through a backdoor) and update the SuperSU app and binary it installs via the Play Store, so don't really see it as an issue.
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Wow thanks very much, a was not exspecting that reply and so quickly, so thanks , well as i said i am new to the android, and the whole rooting thing makes me nervous as i havent done it before, and i dont want to break my phone, i do know there is always a risk in anything really, but would like to know if possible the best for my phone, i am on jelly bean 4.2.2 and kernel 3.4.5 and is it the build number you need or the custom build version? also i dont know if this is important but i actually dont have wifi and use the usb tethering for my pc to get online, is it still possible to do it this way? cheers
bazzaboy1 said:
Wow thanks very much, a was not exspecting that reply and so quickly, so thanks , well as i said i am new to the android, and the whole rooting thing makes me nervous as i havent done it before, and i dont want to break my phone, i do know there is always a risk in anything really, but would like to know if possible the best for my phone, i am on jelly bean 4.2.2 and kernel 3.4.5 and is it the build number you need or the custom build version? also i dont know if this is important but i actually dont have wifi and use the usb tethering for my pc to get online, is it still possible to do it this way? cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518094
That's a guide with everything you should need to fix the phone if anything were to happen or to just return it to it's original state if wanted / needed. Read through the thread a bit and see where other members were having trouble and the solutions to those. If you get comfortable with that and how it works, then modding your phone becomes much less scary. And once you are rooted, tethering is even better because you can typically hide your activity much more. I don't know if it is a big deal with carriers around where you live, but here, most people have to pay for tethering or make sure to have special plans that typically cost more than ones that don't include it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518094
That's a guide with everything you should need to fix the phone if anything were to happen or to just return it to it's original state if wanted / needed. Read through the thread a bit and see where other members were having trouble and the solutions to those. If you get comfortable with that and how it works, then modding your phone becomes much less scary. And once you are rooted, tethering is even better because you can typically hide your activity much more. I don't know if it is a big deal with carriers around where you live, but here, most people have to pay for tethering or make sure to have special plans that typically cost more than ones that don't include it.
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Thanks very much!! a will go have a look at the thread just now, really appreciate your help and time, thanks