more noob questions - battery ? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

if I drain the battery to the end which data will be lost ?
I assume not windows bcoz windows is in rom and not data on sd card, maybe contacts and calendar ? Installation of programs which are not in the rom ?
Can I turn off battery warning at 40% and set if for eg at 10 %
Is there any reliable battery meter for 2003 se, found couple of them but every program warned me that it is not for 2003 se and that it wont work properly
Is it true that wallaby battery loose a most of its potential after couple of years ?
Sorry people for asking too much questions, searched the forum already but didnt find any answers to my questions
thanks, GL and HF

yes everything you add is in ram and will be lost if batt goes down
rom is in flash and will stay there untill you flash another
pocket plus have batt meter

The XDA should turn itself off before you are at the stage where you lose your data, and you shouldn't be able to turn it back on.
The lithium polymer batteries tend to be very good with keeping their potential over time, however if you charge it every day or something, it will eventually have less and less capacity over a long time.

thanks a lot guys, you are very helpfull !

"if you charge it every day or something, it will eventually have less and less capacity over a long time."
no!
that memory myth is not even about lithium it's about Nikkel-Cadmium.
http://www.repairfaq.org/ELE/F_NiCd_Battery.html#NICDBATTERY_014
lithium also have a lifespan a limited nr of power it can give before going to dirt city but charging it often dont shorten that at all

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Saving Battery settings

I want to flash to a newer ROM, but then i'll lose my battery-calibration. I will have a couple of days a real bad battery prestation and my battery will also not get better of it. Doens anyone know how to back-up the calibration and how to put the settings back after a flash?
Philotra said:
I want to flash to a newer ROM, but then i'll lose my battery-calibration. I will have a couple of days a real bad battery prestation and my battery will also not get better of it. Doens anyone know how to back-up the calibration and how to put the settings back after a flash?
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That is not possible since the ROM has to be trained to the battery. It is really very simple. All you have to do is run the battery dead on the new ROM and then let it recharge and it will be calibrated. There really is no calibration data so much as training the ROM to know your batteries empty state versus full state. The fastest way to run it down is turn GPS on as well as WIFI and BT and leave them on. Your battery should be dead in less then half the day.
Also please do not double post. We see your post and if no one answers then no one answers.
Solarenemy68 said:
That is not possible since the ROM has to be trained to the battery. It is really very simple. All you have to do is run the battery dead on the new ROM and then let it recharge and it will be calibrated. There really is no calibration data so much as training the ROM to know your batteries empty state versus full state. The fastest way to run it down is turn GPS on as well as WIFI and BT and leave them on. Your battery should be dead in less then half the day.
Also please do not double post. We see your post and if no one answers then no one answers.
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i agree on the first part but disagree on the rest
running the battery dead isnt good for Li-Ion batteries, and for running down the battery dead faster would actually put a lot of stress and heat (if youre connected to data and running very heavy apps that uses either wifi or data, or even A LOT of CPU) on the battery as well, heat is a no no for the battery, just let it down by leaving the backlight on and turning off auto standby, works for me and its going good
read some of this on the bottom, might help you
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BATTERY SAVING TIPS
The first few days
• Immediately after flashing, you will probably observe very poor battery performance. This is due to the charging circuit having to reset itself.
• The battery meter will not settle down and give accurate readings for a few battery cycles. Give it a few days.
• For the first few battery charging cycles, try to charge to 100% with phone off and then allow battery to drain down quite a bit before recharging. This is so the meter will calculate drain well.
Recommendations
• Make sure you followed all of the flashing instructions to the letter. Especially the part about the hard reset.
• Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.
• 3G is on by default. Recommendation is to turn it off when you are not surfing the internet.
• Don't drain your batery all the way down until it dies. Not good for these types of batteries.
• The GPS sucks the battery dry. If you want to keep track of yourself, consider something like GPSToday that only wakes up the GPS once in a while.
• Maybe you don't really need aGPS enabled. Disable and check GPS lock times and battery drain.
• Applications that run from the storage card consume more power so install oft-used or background-type applications to main memory.
Troubleshooting
• If your radio does not match your rilphone.dll you can get crazy bad battery drainage. Use the recommended radio or spend some time working out a good combination for your phone/carrier/location/usage.
• Check to see that some application is not still running in the background. Check, do not assume. USe the full Task Manager application.
• Check to see if the screen is still on when you expect it to be off. Soft reset can fix that issue.
• Some radios work better with some carriers and locations. Asking everyone to tell you what radio to use may not give you the best answer. Be specific about your situation.
If you have tried all the above and still can't get over a day with moderate use, you may actually have a bad battery. Try getting a new one that is made by another manufacturer.
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I'm not sure that it helps (I do it anyway, lol), but I think it's a good idea to flash with the battery fully charged (and maybe plugged in, if you flash off a card).
But when the ROM is trained, it has to save tha calibration data somewhere in it's system? And when you can find dat data, flash a new rom and put that calibration data back, you do not have to train your phone anymiore, right?
If you flash your rom, You should be sure toloose preety much everything of your settings, as far as I know. And so on you wont be taking anything alng (as long as you havent a good backup-tool with you), ...just adjust the settings another time (If they are too many, tell me what you did, maybe I can help my own sttings ^^ (Hate the battaryusage aswell, ...)

[Q] Battery charging quite slow

I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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The Gingerbread Man said:
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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The Gingerbread Man said:
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
zymphonyx said:
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
Makzer.
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hello mates...
please reply to my problem dear friends ..
looking forward ...
LiveSquare said:
I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
From my XPERIA X10S v8.2 on JaBKerneL @ 1.15ghz

Tips for improving battery life of your SGS2

Hi, folks
These are tips for improving the battery life of your SGS2 :
1.Set the wallpaper , with dark or black images
Set the brightness to 10%
2.When you are not using data , please turn it off . Using 3G data will suck lots of juice !!
On the other hand Wifi doesn't suck so much juice
Now the next steps are the most important
3.Please do keep charging between very short intervals ,
Let the battery charge drop to 5-10% then charge till it reaches 100% , this will considerably , increase your battery life .
4.Do not let your phone keep charging for a very long time ,even after it reaches 100%.
This will damage the battery .
Actually when your phone shows that it has been fully charged (100%),it has only been charged for 95% , so plug in for a few more minutes ,for some extra juice .
5.Do not install lots and lots of unused and useless apps ,as they will not only occupy memory , but will also suck the juice out of your phone !!
6.Delete unused widgets from home screen
7.Close unwanted apps running in the background.
Go to task manager and press the ,'clear memory' button frequently .
8.Do not use the charger of other mobile phones , even if they have the same pin ,as this will slowly damage the battery
9.Use only original Samsung battery made for your SGS2 , duplicate or other battery will not only be waste of money , but will also damage your phone !!
10.Sugesstion are welcome , you can posted it , so that i can add it !!
11.If you know a few extra tips , please post it or PM me
12.If you like this tread please rate it !!
13.Please press the thanks button , if you like this post and if i helped increase the battery life of your SGS2
These things helped me improve the battery life of my SGS2 ,I hope it also help you considerably increase the battery life of your SGS2 too
Cheers ,
I'm new to XDA. A "NOOB" as we are called here. I applaud your intentions to help fellow GSII owners out, but senior members are about to fry and roast you with " you should have searched first,post later" . Read,Read and read more. While I generally despise when certain senior members feel the need to be mini moderators and verbally assault new members. Please save yourself some future heartache by doing just that. Enjoy this beast of a phone.
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While I appreciate you giving advice to our members about battery life, you have some flaws in your tips
ashwinsrihari said:
1.Set the wallpaper , with dark or black images
Use autobrightness or set the brightness to 10% <-- First you tell people to turn on autobrightness, then you tell people to turn it off and keep it at 10%. Which do you recommend? You can't suggest both. Also, autobrightness will drain your battery more.
4.Do not let your phone keep charging even after it reaches 100%.
This will damage the battery .
Actually when your phone shows that it has been fully charged (100%),it has only been charged for 95% , so plug in for a few more minutes ,for some extra juice . <-- Again, you're contradicting yourself. You're telling people not to charge passed 100% but then you tell them to charge passed 100% because you can get more juice? Pick one.
7.Close unwanted apps running in the background.
Go to task manager and press the ,'clear memory' button frequently .<-- You're wasting more battery by telling Android that you dont want those apps in memory because the OS will just add it back into memory (thus, using more battery to do so). This is only good if you have a rogue app that is killing the battery, otherwise just let the OS do its job.
9.Use only original Samsung battery made for your SGS2 , duplicate or other battery will not only be waste of money , but will also damage your phone !! <-- While I can't really speak for sure because I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure generic batteries will not kill your phone if they're designed for the phone. We have a lot of members that use generic batteries and their phones run just fine.
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but please let me know if I read your post wrong...
also,
Turning off sync, preventing app updates...
ashwinsrihari said:
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Let the battery charge drop to 5-10% then charge till it reaches 100% , this will considerably , increase your battery life
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Lithium Ion batteries "prefer" short charges.
What's written is applicable to Nickel Cadmium batteries, where charging after partially draining the battery will reduce its capacity.
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I have a 3500mAh battery that lasts me 60-80 hours per charge, and it hasn't given me a single problem.
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graffixnyc said:
In before Red5 lock
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I lold
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Plasmamuffins said:
I have a 3500mAh battery that lasts me 60-80 hours per charge, and it hasn't given me a single problem.
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Where'd you get it? I bought a cheap extended one off ebay and it was great, but after about 3 months it was lasting as long as the stock battery.
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Allow me this time...
OP, while helpful posts are always welcome here, it is advisable to search before posting (actually, it is a rule...). In this case, the points here have been commonly discussed already, with some being a point of contention.
To keep things from going out of control, i will go ahead and close this, but say thanks for a genuine effort..

battery caliberation

hi
is it required to battery caliberate after flashing new rom?
and when ever i reboot my system either battery jumps from 10% to 30 or more
or becomes less than 10%..
if i should then which app should i use?
any guidnace
plz
TY
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
hi
thanks for your reply
plz suggest me best battery app with battery saving feature , suggestion on what we can do with remaining battery , expected full time charge , complete graph or battery usage history by apps?
paid or free , tell me best one
thank you
There's lots of battery apps on Google Play, there's no such thing as the best one, go have a look under the Tools section in Apps (you'll also find some under productivity). Stay away from apps like Juice Defender that claim to save you battery by doing things automatically which you can do yourself in two seconds, these have been proven time & again on XDA to use more juice than they save.
ivl try battery monitor
thank you
No probs ;-)
MistahBungle said:
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
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Wouldn't that procedure above be considered calibrating the battery? LOL. J/K. Couldn't resist .
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@up
actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
gaeilge said:
@up
actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
actually I cannot help with that. I don't use such a software and really don't believe in it. but, the fact is that I do not use so many apps. other fact is that surely there is some useful software that could help you with that task, i just do not use one and personally I'm not interested in it. I know that perhaps the best method is to freeze them with titanium but if you use these apps from time to time then it would become complicated and not worth the effort.
still I have few questions:
why would you like to stop them from working? do they drain your battery? if so then check your logs with bbs and find out which ones are draining, try to change their setting or get rid of them, or at least close only these ones. long time ago I was fighting with some apps that I do not use often and they start themselves from time to time. I didn't want to get rid of them, so before every night I was killing them one-by-one from applications menu (actually most of them didn't wake up until I ran them myself). finally, after many tests I got to the point that it doesn't make any difference. apps I was killing, even if running, didn't use any recourses, didn't produce wakelocks, they were just using some RAM. and if it is the reason of your concern then do not be worried - they may use as much RAM as they want - android will free RAM when it will need it.
now I do not kill any apps and by night I lose 0-2% of battery which is my only concern - what should we care more? CPU, RAM - let it work as long as it doesn't stop us from enjoying our phone and make a usage of it uncomfortable.
and if you're worried about packet data then you may limit it for each app using system menu in ICS.
ancilary said:
read that ..
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and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
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Thanks dude. I also have the similar problem. I have spent months on it without any improvement. Now I'm quite frustrated and not optimistic on the solution you have provided towards my issue, but your decription gives me a lot of clue.
But my problem is even more tricky, I would like to share it here so see if anyone have met it before, or if I need to start a new thread to deal with it:
The problem can be generally decribed as below:
1. When the battery is fully charged, unplug and consume the juice until the level reach around 30%, then the phone is shut down automatically; after I plugin the power and restart the phone, the battery level is displayed as 0%;
2. After charging for a while from 0% , restart the phone and you will see the battery level directly goes back to 50%, but still with very low voltage;
3. Changing with a new battery won't solve the issue -- though the new battery itself may also have problem(not sure if it is genuine), but I don't think a fake battery and an old battery should behave almost the same, so I don't think it is the battery's problem; criticize if I'm wrong
4. Re-flashing a new rom won't solve the issue either. I have tried different CM9 nightlies and now I'm using CM10 nightlies, none of them is immune to the problem;
5. Clear the battery state won't solve the problem. It is hard to say whether it improves the situation at least a tiny bit. I mean it may work somehow, e.g. My phone used to be shut down at 50% battery level and now it can last to 36%. But it never totally solve the problem once and for all, so I still don't trust this caliberation thing may work.
I hope I have clearly stated my issue. I'm so at the end of my patience, this little bastard have been always torturing me You guys are the last I can count on I really hope I came here earlier so as not to have wasted so much time.

LG G2 Mini battery (?) Problem

Hi,
I bought a LG G2 Mini second hand that has been used for about 7 months...sometimes it takes 2-3 hours to get full charge and other times it takes 5-7 hours with the same charger and conection (the charger that came with the device and the wall conection), it doesnt even say that its on a slow charge
It happens sometimes also that the battery gets drained for no reason, leaving it iddle with only wifi and 2g it can las betwin 20 hours and 240 (the last one was only once, generaly what i feel happy to get is 120). When i see what is using the battery it says wifi, screen and a very little of system
Thanks
Sir,
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First of all Wi-Fi drains battery, this is a common knowledge. Secondly since it second hand also the charger can be" not-original. Those tend to mess up the battery good. Decreasing it's life.
I recommend using : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
If it is software related this will make you understand what is causing the drain, may be a wake-lock..
If it is hardware related first identify if the charger is original. If it is not change it, if it is your battery is probably fulfilled its life for some reason. You may need to buy another original battery. If you want a long battery life you have to use original parts...

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