Charger accesories for Wizard interchangeable with Hermes? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories

I have both the MDA (Wizard) and 8525 (Hermes). I have a couple of charger accessories for the MDA as follow:
1) AA battery charger: use regular AA battery to power the MDA
2) iGo portable charger: this is a multiple devices charger that can charge different devices, such as iPod, MDA, PSP, etc. just by changing the adaptor "tips". (http://www.igo.com)
The question is: can I use the above MDA charger accessories with my 8525?
I checked both the MDA and Hermes original charger and both have the same OUTPUT rating: 5V - 1A LPS. So theoritically, if I use the MDA charger accessories, it shouldn't damage the 8525 since they all have the same outpot rating.
I am not very knowledgeable on AC/DC, so I am posting this thread.

FWIW, I'm using my charging accessories from my Apache without problems so it should be fine since they have the same power output specs.

Uprey,
Just to confirm: when you said "accesories", are you referring to things such as charger using AA batteries, mult-devices charger, etc?
I know that both the original Wizard and Hermes chargers have the same voltage output rating (5 volt - 1 Amp) and most probably works well. It's the "accessories" that I am most concerned about, especially since they didn't show the power output rating.

I'm using my spare Apache battery, car charger, AC charger, and usb cables. I don't have a AA battery charger so I can't comment there.

Battery charger
I use the travel charger from my Blackberry(!) for my TyTN. So long as the output is 5V and at least 0.5 amps and the connector is the mini-USB, it is fine. Less than 0.5A wont charge the TyTN. Even at 0.5A, you cant charge the TyTN if the screen is on. Works fine with the screen off. The BB charger is rated at 5V and 0.5A.

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Car cradle with additional battery charger?

I need a way of charging a battery without it being in the phone while in the car - are there any options for me?
I have not seen a car cradle with a battery charger slot but I have used a car invertor to supply power to my desktop cradle and charge a second battery on the odd occasion I need it.
The invertor simply take the 12 V DC from the car and inverts it to a 240v AC signal. The unit has a cig lighter socket on one end and a general purpose outlet socket on the other into which I plug the desktop charger AC adapter.
In you case (USA) you would only need a 110v unit. I paid A$50 for mine and use it to charge my notebbok etc. on those extended trips away from an AC socket.
Others may have alternative solutions for you.
Ed
You can also get a smaller, simpler device which goes into the cigarette lighter socket in the car and converts the 12v output to the required 5v input for the XDA.

In car charger

I have a usb type in car charger for my psp rated at 5v 2amp, could I use this on my Vario (wizard)?
will the extra 1 amp matter?
My mains plug for the vario is rated at 5v 1 amp.
thanks
In a electronic engineer theoritical point, it does not matter that the charger is able to provide the extra 1 amp. It should work since both has the same voltage. The basic equation is V = IR, which if you have the same voltage and resistance, the current will be adjusted automatically. For example, the wall socket on your house gives you 240V (e.g. UK standard) and able to give you 13A, hence the rating is 240V 13A. However, this same socket is able to act as a power supply for things rangers from the low power consumption (e.g. clock) to power hungry ones (e.g. kettle). These appliances uses the same voltage 240V but they adjust (automatically) the power by having lower current (e.g. clock = 0.1A, kettle 12A).
However, I'm not sure hows the HTC design in terms of safety. The 1amp condition will become a concern IF there is a problem with your phone. Example, if you have a defective battery, the 2amp charger will have the phone exploded in twice the speed as compared with the 1amp charger.
Anyway, 5V 2A = 10W is a low power rating. My comment is, there is a low accepted risk involved, but it should work with your phone. My advise would be, charge your phone with your default charger, sense the phone's temperature and function. THEN, go charge (later when you need charging) your phone with the 2A charger, and make sure that the phone is within the similar condition it has when charging with the default charger. It is just a precaution incase of any 'defects' on your phone. But, in most cases, if your phone works normally with your default charger, it should not have problems on the 2A charger.
Ask if you want to know more electrical stuff
Thanks,
What does the usb on a pc give?
It charges fine on this, I dont really use the wall charger.
As according to
http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb2.htm
USB allows up to 0.5A of current. So, you are looking at 0.5A current from USB, but the standard charger is 1A.
Ok, thanks for your help, I'll give it a go if its an emergency!

TyTN compatibility with these?

Hello,
I have a couple of questions regarding the compatibility of the TyTN with the following things (didn't find anything relevant with the search option):
1. Can it charge using an iPod charger (the white box in which you put a USB cable)?
2. Can it charge using the car charger that comes supplied with a Holux GPSlim 236?
Thanks!
Jörg
I am able to charge mine with the car charger that came with Holux GPS Slim240.
I've charged mine with anything that has a mini usb port ... charger(s) for my Motorola headphone, cameras, etc ... with no problems.
For top-up charging, pretty much any car charger with a USB port will work. Note however that if your battery is seriously low, some car chargers may not be able to provide enough current to do the job -- the charger should be able to supply at least 1 amp to properly charge a low battery.
Thanks guys!
Jörg

What is the output A&V of the OEM CHARGER??

Hi guys,
Well i have a TyTN for a year by now and when i have purchased my phone, on very first day i`ve lost my charger
So here is my question, i`ve tried 2 different charges, one belongs to motorola phones with mini usb port, and other one is gigabyte g-smart charger (the one i bought before TyTN and not working now). Motorola charger can not charge my TyTN, but G-Smart charger can do it. But when the battery is fully discharged, G-Smart charger also can not start charging my device, only way i can start charging is to connect my tytn to my computer..
I want to ask you guys the output voltage and ampere value of the OEM TyTN charger, which is the most important thing about the chargers. For example Motorola charger gives out 4.8 Volts with 350 mAmpers (0.35 A) and i guess this is not enough to charge my tytn becaouse it is not working on my tytn. Can anybody tell me the values of the oem charger?
Output: 5V @ 1A LPS
I'm pretty sure that answers your question, I don't know much about this.
5V 1A
wow pretty much for a cell phone...
have you felt how much the hermes feels like a 3 bar fire when it's charging p
(if you're buying from ebay, buy the 2AMP versions so you know you have a little bit spare... just my opinion but cheap import charger's probably don't provide quite what they say they do... Also if you run a charger at 100% it's output 100% of the time i would think it's less likley to last as long as one runnign at only 50%)
(don't forget you also need to do the charging pin cable hack if you get a cig lighter to USB adapter or you'll end up with the one charge per reset bug...)
I've charged my Herm200 with various chargers, mains and car-based from 500mA to 1.5A with no difficulties. It seems to be a fairly resilient charging circuit. The lower current chargers don't charge the device very fast (or at all, in some cases) with TomTom running though.
thanx guys you have been very helpful, but i have an gigabyte g-smart i128 and it has a USB chager too. which is 5V 700mAh. And when i plug it into my hermes, a yellow led flashes for few times then nothing... It does not charge it. This i found strange. Well it charges my gigabyte pda well. But i dont think there is something wrong with my hermes too because usb sync cable charges well.

USB car charger

Hey guys,
I was wondering if these USB car chargers are compatible for the TP2?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-2-Ports-US...Accessories?hash=item518f99b7a9#ht_3242wt_958
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Car-Cigarett...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a567814a2
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Mini-Uni...Accessories?hash=item414bbc871c#ht_2000wt_958
I'm asking because I remember in the past I used a HTC charger to charge the O2 XDA Flame and it charged. However, the phone started acting VERY weird and freeze a lot. I ended up having to hard reset it
Thanks!
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
chompx2 said:
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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Thank you
It's best to choose one that can supply enough current (I think the wall charger supplies 2A, but 1A should be ok). Some devices will still trickle charge with a lower current, but others just won't trigger the charging circuits at all.
I had a cheap car charger that seemed to work ok most of the time, but it got worryingly hot after a while.
My TP2 came with an official HTC charger, so I use that now and it's great.
I have noticed that if the phone is OFF then 1A is not enough and usually stops charging but if the phone is ON it completes the charge..but takes for ever.
Has anyone experienced the charging overheat situation where the led flashes orange and green? I dont know if that is the situation but it only happens when I am charging in the car and the unit gets hot.
My old "OEM HTC" charger I got on ebay (the one with the blue HTC light) just stopped charging my phone after about 10-15 uses.
It lights on (charger), but my phone doesn't catch any charge lol
I got a 1A one, and unfortunately it cannot produce enough juice when running the GPS (copilot), after a while the phone shows a message telling the charge current is not enough.
The wall charger that came with the original box is 1A too, thus the problem might be with the cheap car charger.
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
Hey!
Mine is a cheapo but does the trick. Charges the phone with satnav running, today went from 23% to full in less than 3 hours. Plus it's really tiny so I can keep my ashtray closed all the time. Using it with mini retractable cable, it all fits in the ashtray and it's handy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-Nano-Ti...daptors_SM?hash=item5638c26773#ht_1747wt_1165
3waygeek said:
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
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The manual states that the output of the AC charger is 5.0 volts and 1 amp. That means the output of the DC/car charger should be the same. Using a 2 amp current might be charging the device faster but it would probably generate more heat and might shorten the battery life.
one tip, regardless of which charger you end up with, is to not leave the phone plugged in while starting the car. my understanding is that there can be be large voltage surges or fluctuations during the startup. depending on the design on the voltage converter inside the charger, some of that may be making it through to the phone.
i once had a AA NiCd battery smart charger that went wonky after using it in the car a lot, but that was with a straight-through 12V car to charger connector.
I made my own charger for using as a GPS on my motorcycles.
There is a charge select line in the plug. If the phone detects that it is connected to a USB port, the phone will not 'pull' more the 500ma. If that line is set to indicate a non USB port, then the phone will pull 1 amp. MAX (I never saw more then 900ma myself).
If you have the wrong charge plug, it may only charge at 500ma. If you have the correct plug and the charger can manage 5 amps, the phone will still only take 1 amp max.
For a while I used the phone in a waterproof box called an Aquabox. It would overheat during charging. I now only charge the phone when it is not in an enclosed hot space.
I'm still using the off-brand 'for Blackberry' car charger I got back when I had my Kaiser. Seems to be working just fine with this phone as well.

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