READ BEFORE POSTING: How to tell if you have a G4 or G3 device & how to CID-unlock it
The only visible difference between a G3 and a G4 device is when you soft reset your device and looking at the IPL and SPL version numbers that occur during startup.
G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)
Note, X is representing a number.
So, how do you go about to CID-unlock your device? First, do you really have to? Well, in one word YES!, in order to install most of the custom-made ROMs from this site you have to have a device that is CID-unlocked...
If you have a G3 device the solution is pretty straightforward. just look here...
If you have a G4 device you have to go to imei-check.co.uk and pay £20 in order to get it unlocked. But you can help develop a solution that doen't require you to pay for it. Have a look at this thread.
NOTE: There are several posts that mention this subject, some claim that using the imei-check.co.uk method will not CID-unlock your device but only unlock the SIM. THIS IS NOT CORRECT! Your G4 device will be unlocked after this procedure.
Finally, never, ever, flash your G4 device with a ROM that is intended for a G3 device, make sure that is either made for G4 or doesn't contain a bootloader. If you for some reason you do, you'll have damaged (bricked) your Wizard permanently...
Moderators - PLEASE STICKY THIS POST!
Moderators - PLEASE STICKY THIS POST! -before it gets lost!
Thanks!
Ok, i know how to tell one from another, but what exactly is the difference? is it some technology breakthrough or what?
banannq said:
Ok, i know how to tell one from another, but what exactly is the difference? is it some technology breakthrough or what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as I know the brand of the chipset is the only thing that's different. It's also been speculated in that due to the newer bootloader present in the G4's they have updated security measures when upgrading...
Hello,
You know if this unlock work for French FAI, specialy "Ten Téléphonie".
Many thanks, soon...
G4 or G3
ipl 2.18.0001
spl 2.18.0001
G3 or G4
Are you kidding me?!! I clearly states in my first post that if your ipl/spl is 2.XX.0001 it's a G4!!!
Yes but it is also possible to have a g3 with 2.xx.001.
So it's a bit confusing.
Anyway how do i determin wich update utility to use?
look at the number of 0
Ok ok... updated my first post to make it clearer
alright checked!
Thank you
i know i have a g4 . how do i get plugins to work must i unlock. all i want is to monitor my cpu, battery, memory and such not real get in to the registry in deep stuff.but i cant seem to get anything done. so if anyone has a good link for plugin for today screen to see battery, cpu usage, and memory. are just some great apps i could use please help
and how do i get themes, and can you uppdate your flashplayer on a mda to watch videos on youtube?
blitzgod said:
and how do i get themes, and can you uppdate your flashplayer on a mda to watch videos on youtube?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can find all you're answers here!
vippie said:
You can find all you're answers here!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good answer!!!!! really!!!!!
how to see videos on youtube?....... what program/drivers do i have to instal? this is the question!
Mine even has 4 zeros (2.06.0000)... i think it is a G4 also -.-
Ok, sue me if this has been asked before....I could not find it anywhere. On my Wizard the RED Vodafone splash screen covers the IPL/SPL versions on start-up. Anyway to find out in some other way whether it's a G3 or G4?
Finally, never, ever, flash your G4 device with a ROM that is intended for a G3 device, make sure that is either made for G4 or doesn't contain a bootloader. If you for some reason you do, you'll have damaged (bricked) your Wizard permanently...[/QUOTE]
How to know which ROM is intended for G3 or G4 device ?
HELP !
I tried to flash my Cingular 8125 with the latest ROM not realizing that I had a G4 device. Now all I see is the RBG screen and I don't know a way out.
I will appreciate any help to bring my 8125 back to normal.
Thx
Finally found the rom which can work with the G4 device. I think my phone is CID locked but still it worked. The ROM was 'Wizard love '.
It good to have my phone working now !
Thank you guys!
Related
I am kind of new to this so forgive me if this is a stupid question but:
The only thing that I need to update is to update WM5 to version 15097.3.0.0 or higher to be able to use MS Voice Command 1.6
Question:
Is there a way to do this with a G4 locked phone.
If I get T-Mobile to unlock it to use in another country, is that the same "UnlocK" that is required to upgrade the phone.
Please advise,
take a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284189
That rom on there is good for doing exactly that and is the safest option for a G4 user make sure you do in fact have a G4.
I have voice command 1.6 running perfectly on that
Everyone says to check for 2.21.0001, this is 2.26.0001. I am assuming by the 4 leading digits after the decimal that it is indeed a G4.
I will check out that link, thank you VERY much.
(It is the bluetooth whisper feature that doesn't work with the current version.)
The ROM in the very first post in that thread the one you mean? When starting it, it mentions like version 1.2 - just wanted to make sure. Thank you!
eddieitman said:
take a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284189
That rom on there is good for doing exactly that and is the safest option for a G4 user make sure you do in fact have a G4.
I have voice command 1.6 running perfectly on that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know that this forum is for the G4, but is there a G3 ROM that'll update my build of Windows Mobile to 15097.3.0.0 or higher? Thanks!
Update
Hi,
I did a quick search
Heres a free update Tmobile Offered back when they sold the MDA.
http://fileclutter.com/lowpnvw26abb/MDA_software_update_1_Click_File_Hosting_.zip.html
I hope it is the update your looking.
Plz Help Me I Bricked My HTC WIZARD G4, it is CID LOCKED, I Installed xpl
IPL/SPL 3.08, Radio update 2.69.11 with X-plorer splash. It Updated Smoothly but when I Turned Off My Phone its not rebooting. Even it not charging Plz Reply Soon.
Richi_Ric said:
Plz Help Me I Bricked My HTC WIZARD G4, it is CID LOCKED, I Installed xpl
IPL/SPL 3.08, Radio update 2.69.11 with X-plorer splash. It Updated Smoothly but when I Turned Off My Phone its not rebooting. Even it not charging Plz Reply Soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your device is a true brick. You should have read more before you flashed a bootloader into a G4 device. This is the biggest no no you can do. Your only hope is to get it replaced under warranty but that is likely to not be successful for you.
NEVER NEVER NEVER flash IPL/SPL into a G4 device, the ONLY exception is an approved and released ROM from your carrier that they will support. I believe this is posted all over every sub forum in the wizard forums.
My phone is Under Warranty, I am From India, if they refuses then What Is The Onather way, plz reply
Richi_Ric said:
My phone is Under Warranty, I am From India, if they refuses then What Is The Onather way, plz reply
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone you flashed is dead. There is no help for it. You will have to get it replaced or buy another one. If you overwrite the G4 bootloaders with G3 bootloaders your device is 100% ruined.
Very expensive and hard way to learn the lesson that is preached thread after thread after thread.
Sorry you had to find out this way.
I think this should be made sticky, to show all newbies the value for reading.
@Richi_Ric
Go to imate service center, and they will replace if you will be smart.
My Bricked K-Jam is Repaired by Co. in free as my PPC is in Warranty.
Somebody needs to edit the wiki to include the dangers in flashing a G3 rom to a G4 device.....Oh wait its already written in the wiki, and its also written in this forum seven hundred times.
You are a lucky idiot.
name calling isnt helpful, but thanks for posting!
Xtra
peter petrelli said:
Somebody needs to edit the wiki to include the dangers in flashing a G3 rom to a G4 device.....Oh wait its already written in the wiki, and its also written in this forum seven hundred times.
You are a lucky idiot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya..............................................
...........
Alrighty, same deal as Diamond, here's the Touch Pro / Fuze SIM Unlocker :
you want a free SIM Unlock right? well tough ****, there's no such thing as a free lunch... if you want to get something, you need to give something.
1) contributing forum members & Elite Team donators... Request a free unlock with your IMEI & email. - if you have an account that has a) existed for a good few months and b) you actually contribute to the site (technical wizardy, or general helpfulness - CONSISTENT AND REGULAR POSTING), then just drop me a message and it's yours.
2) everyone else (new accounts/unregistered/sod all posts, this means you): [size=+2]Get SIM unlocked Here[/size]
Security Relocker
hey all, we (olinex) got many requests for a security relocker
so now, you can easily do it
steps:
1. make sure you have stock radio flashed already. (i.e. not the one that unlocker flashes)
2. also make sure your radio is ON
3. download this attachment, extract, put it on your device, execute it
4. it should say relock was OK, and then you're done. if it says error, then reboot, retry, and again make sure radio is turned on (check in comm manager).
what if i just want to unlock security? still have to pay?
Good question since my TP isn't sim locked either
nolovelust said:
what if i just want to unlock security? still have to pay?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can I get this for free because the f***** PayPal don't work in my country ?
borce_razor said:
Can I get this for free because the f***** PayPal don't work in my country ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try google checkout, that's also an option to do the payment with.
Security unlock ?
Hi guys,
Could somebody explain me what is the security lock ?
As far as i know, SIMlocking is depending on the provider who sells you the phone. For example, here in Belgium, it is forbiddent to SIMlock a phone, so my raphael is already SIM unlocked. Otherwise I would have to use the tool proposed here for it.
Concerning CID unlock, I would have to replace the SPL with HARDSPL if I wanted my raphael to be in SuperCID mode (stop me if i am telling craps).
But i have never heard about a security lock. What is the purpose of it ?
My previous device was a wizard, and I just needed to CID unlock it to flash any rom on it. But it seems that things have changed...
Thanks in advance for your answers,
j
"Google checkout is not allowed in your country" WELL, WHAT IS ALLOWED IN MY F***** COUNTRY ?
Mod Edit: LOSE the bad language, theres no need.
jcollin said:
Hi guys,
Could somebody explain me what is the security lock ?
As far as i know, SIMlocking is depending on the provider who sells you the phone. For example, here in Belgium, it is forbiddent to SIMlock a phone, so my raphael is already SIM unlocked. Otherwise I would have to use the tool proposed here for it.
Concerning CID unlock, I would have to replace the SPL with HARDSPL if I wanted my raphael to be in SuperCID mode (stop me if i am telling craps).
But i have never heard about a security lock. What is the purpose of it ?
My previous device was a wizard, and I just needed to CID unlock it to flash any rom on it. But it seems that things have changed...
Thanks in advance for your answers,
j
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it's an MSM7xxx thing, allows you to do extra things like flash a diamond radio on raphael.
hardspl is not making your device truly supercid, but that is just a theoretical difference between hardspl and the real cid unlock, so do not worry.
borce_razor said:
"Google checkout is not allowed in your country" WELL, WHAT IS ALLOWED IN MY F***** COUNTRY ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just send a PM to Olipro, I'm sure there is another way to sort the payment.
borce_razor said:
"Google checkout is not allowed in your country" WELL, WHAT IS ALLOWED IN MY F***** COUNTRY ?[/B]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Checkout support Macedonia just fine.
Finaly Google Checkout work. Maybe I have some problems with my Internet Service Provider (it's usually with my provider).
Ok... I'm a really noob.
Let's say i have a brand new Touch Pro, do i need a security/CID-Unlocked Touch Pro to do Hard-SPL? I just want to flash it with the newest roms. I don't mind donating money for XDA, but i'm just really confuses right now..
Thanks for the help,
M
Murdamonk said:
Ok... I'm a really noob.
Let's say i have a brand new Touch Pro, do i need a security/CID-Unlocked Touch Pro to do Hard-SPL? I just want to flash it with the newest roms. I don't mind donating money for XDA, but i'm just really confuses right now..
Thanks for the help,
M
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do not need a security unlock to flash the newest roms, but you DO need to Hard-SPL. Once Hard-SPL is installed, your device is CID Unlocked, and then you can install any rom or radio rom (as long as it's a Raph radio!) that you want.
A SIM unlock lets you use SIM cards from other providers, ie if your phone is locked to a provider, after a SIM unlock, you will be able to use sim cards from other providers.
I haven't seen too much about security unlock, as far as I know the only use for that at the moment is to install say, a radio from a Diamond onto your Raph...
Hope this helps...
It would be nice tough if Olipro could at least respond to the PM I’ve sent him….
As far as I know I comply with his criteria, but so far (3 days now) I haven’t heard a thing from him...
Xtreme XL said:
It would be nice tough if Olipro could at least respond to the PM I’ve sent him….
As far as I know I comply with his criteria, but so far (3 days now) I haven’t heard a thing from him...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I 've let him know, he found your PM now, you got a reply
cmonex said:
I 've let him know, he found your PM now, you got a reply
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, I've got his reply.
tnx cmonex & olipro
Some Clarification Please...
I just want to get it all straight in my own mind before I "brick" my new phone inadvertently.
I have a new touch pro supplied by Vodafone UK. I want to do two things:
1. flash the latest roms to my phone
2. use various sim cards (some non Vodafone) from time to time
I thought that if I flashed HardSPL and then my chosen rom I could accomplish these two objectives?
from what i've read it appears that I could achieve point No.1 but to be able to use different sim cards I need to pay for some sort of unlock code?
can someone please confirm that my understanding is correct?
Many thanks.
Axel2k5 said:
I just want to get it all straight in my own mind before I "brick" my new phone inadvertently.
I have a new touch pro supplied by Vodafone UK. I want to do two things:
1. flash the latest roms to my phone
2. use various sim cards (some non Vodafone) from time to time
I thought that if I flashed HardSPL and then my chosen rom I could accomplish these two objectives?
from what i've read it appears that I could achieve point No.1 but to be able to use different sim cards I need to pay for some sort of unlock code?
can someone please confirm that my understanding is correct?
Many thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HardSPL will allow you to flash different ROMs.
If your handset is locked to vodafone (which they normally are when you get them from a telco) and you want to use Sims from other telcos, then you will also have to use the SIM Unlock tool referred to at the beginning of this thread.
Thanks for the info apd...
as a matter of interest I tried a BT sim card in the phone and it works no problem so it appears that Raphs supplied by Vodafone UK are not 'locked' into only accepting their sims!
Hi all, where i can download the touch dual upgrade? someone can post a link please? I can't download it from official htc site becouse i have a branded phone.
thx
Mirrors for WM6.1 upgrade postet for some times here. Please use the Search...
Or take a look in my signature
can it go on branded??
I've been trying to find out the answer to this for a few days....but I get a bit confused with all the answers, terminology and talk of hard spl etc..
so please forgive the question... I would like a simple yes or no answer just to confirm what I think i understand from other threads...
Can the normal HTC supplied update for WM6.1 be applied to a branded phone (in my case Orange UK) without having to make any other adjustments first???
Thanks in advance
thx but i need the italian version..
lordrorthorn said:
I've been trying to find out the answer to this for a few days....but I get a bit confused with all the answers, terminology and talk of hard spl etc..
so please forgive the question... I would like a simple yes or no answer just to confirm what I think i understand from other threads...
Can the normal HTC supplied update for WM6.1 be applied to a branded phone (in my case Orange UK) without having to make any other adjustments first???
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, you need to flash the uspl first. Check the sspl/uspl/hardspl thread. It's quite easy, first you put sspl on the phone and run it, then when the phone is in bootloader you flash the uspl. After flashing you can check if it went ok by going into bootloader (check wiki how to do it). If you can confirm that you have uspl, then just flash the new 6.1 original.
There's nothing else to it (it works also on vista). I did it with my t-mobile branded phone.
deffez said:
thx but i need the italian version..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry so far i know is there no Italien Version at the moment
bdacier said:
Nope, you need to flash the uspl first. Check the sspl/uspl/hardspl thread. It's quite easy, first you put sspl on the phone and run it, then when the phone is in bootloader you flash the uspl. After flashing you can check if it went ok by going into bootloader (check wiki how to do it). If you can confirm that you have uspl, then just flash the new 6.1 original.
There's nothing else to it (it works also on vista). I did it with my t-mobile branded phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that...I believed that was the case but there is sooo much info on here it was difficult to get to the bottom of it.
I'm not sure I want to do all that...if i brick it I can't afford a new phone so I might just leave it be.
Also, has anyone actually done this with an Touch Dual on Orange UK? does it work? The only confirmed upgrades i've found are on T-Mobile.
It would be a lot easier if Orange just supplied it wouldn't it????
lordrorthorn said:
Thanks for that...I believed that was the case but there is sooo much info on here it was difficult to get to the bottom of it.
I'm not sure I want to do all that...if i brick it I can't afford a new phone so I might just leave it be.
Also, has anyone actually done this with an Touch Dual on Orange UK? does it work? The only confirmed upgrades i've found are on T-Mobile.
It would be a lot easier if Orange just supplied it wouldn't it????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah ive done mine, i was orange uk. Works fine. Just follow the instructions.
lordrorthorn said:
Thanks for that...I believed that was the case but there is sooo much info on here it was difficult to get to the bottom of it.
I'm not sure I want to do all that...if i brick it I can't afford a new phone so I might just leave it be.
Also, has anyone actually done this with an Touch Dual on Orange UK? does it work? The only confirmed upgrades i've found are on T-Mobile.
It would be a lot easier if Orange just supplied it wouldn't it????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok i have a UK version Toch Dual wich i bought here in belgium so it was already unlocked since i could use it on belgium networks. Also it is an unbranded one.
I flashed yesterday the new Official HTC Rom Windows Mobile 6.1 wich went all well no problems with flashing. It is a good rom, faster than the previous one. My question is since it is already unlocked can i flash any custom rom i can find here in the touch dual forum ???
Or do i have to do something witch the Uspl or hardspl ??? what is the different and what are the steps to use it with custom roms???
thanks alot
Hi to everyone,
Which are real advantages to upgrade to WM6.1 ?
Thanks a lot
I Have A cingular Device But My Carrier Is T-Mobile Would Like to change to t-mobile rom so do ?I Hard SPL Flash The T-Mobile Rom Then Flash The WM 6 ROM Of Choice Or ?? I Don't Know Any Help Would Be Appriceated
Thank You For Your Time,
BILL
Read the sticky threads. I assume you have the T-Mobile ROM? If not, search the forums for a link, you'll surely find one that isn't expired since people re-upload that ROM from time to time. You need to SIM unlock, and use hard or soft spl. I'd suggest softspl to start with. I don't know for sure but I think I've read that it is safer.
You also want to find out (I don't know): is it safe to burn a T-Mobile ROM on a Cingular G4, or do you risk writing the wrong IPL/SPL, which can brick the phone? I've burned the T-Mobile ROM on my G4, but it was originally a T-Mobile phone. I don't know if that makes a difference or if they are all the same on the inside. Hopefully someone more experienced can set me straight