I seem to be reading two different accounts whether or not this will install safely on my phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286987
I've asked in that thread, but its pretty much dead so I've gotten no response.
In a word NO. The rom structure is such that the bootloader knows its not correct and will not flash the OS part. Only CID unlocked devices will flash it.
regards
Riptos
im using molskis g4 rom and i had a cid locked g4 tmobile vario.
installed perfectly and have had no issues with it
Im also using Molskis rom, but i flashed with wizard_love first to upgrade the rom to aku2.3 then reflashed using molskis to get all the customisations. You will not get the programs tho on an CID locked G4, as i didnt get them on my CID locked G4 either. Other wise, Molskis build is very stable and quick.
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Ok i am going to start a list of roms that dont have the IPL/SPL included that can be flashed to the G4 type devices
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2.rar
I am currently running this rom it is very fast and i like it i have added a few items to mine from molskis cabs to tweak it to my liking
MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE is also runs on G4 locked wizards. but it's not makes me happier, cuz not one of AKU3.x does flash.
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
Your help is needed!
This will help the Guru's determine if there's a compatability issue with the higher ipl/spl devices. (it appears some G4 devices can be upgraded, while others might not be able to. )
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
vippie said:
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
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post ur current windows version
No success for the Molski's with me...
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
__s said:
post ur current windows version
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OS: 2.26.10.2
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
sunmoon said:
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
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Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
sunmoon said:
Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4 (short of the new pay way). FWIW, the noid change suggested should work (G4 here it works on no problem).
Thunder_PC said:
Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4
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just a thread above u describes how.
here's the online unlocking service in case u wont find it on forum: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Well, the Wizard Love ROM mentioned in the first post worked. It's using the new NoID_RUU. My phone has been upgraded to OS 2.26.10.2 AKU 2.3 now.
same for me. I have 2.21.001, CID Locked and Wizard love took my aku from 2.0 to 2.3, all works great.
@azapa .. 2.21.001 means u have a G3 device and the discussion is for G4 devices only !
following is my device info :
IPL /SPL 2.21.0001
GSM 01.07.10
OS 2.21.4.1
i have a o2 mini s and have not changed the rom even once on this device
so , from what a gather , the rom mentioned in the first page ( wizard_love) will work on my device ????
and r there any advantages , i mean in speed and performance ??
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
Running Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB, works fine. Allthough I needed to flash it twice to get the OS part updated.
Not sure if my device is CID-locked or not, how can I check to make sure?
i think all are locked ... not sure myself if there is any way to check ??
Wizard-Love works in my O2 with CID locked!
@dodadent .. is it any better than yr old rom ? what was yr old rom version ? and whats yr IPL and SPL ??
i was just checking out the rom update utility and its not in english !!!! cant understand a word .... somebody help !!
I downloaded RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB version of ROM and i upgraded it to my device.
IPL 2.18
ISL 2.18--> but this version might be upgrade these for 2.26, but nothing happened. Can anyone help me why? my device CID locked and i using Crossbow now i just wanted to upgrade IPL the newest version... If anyone can post me a link where can i download working IPL upgrader for a locked G4 i will be happy!
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I downloaded RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB version of ROM and i upgraded it to my device.
IPL 2.18
ISL 2.18--> but this version might be upgrade these for 2.26, but nothing happened. Can anyone help me why? my device CID locked and i using Crossbow now i just wanted to upgrade IPL the newest version... If anyone can post me a link where can i download working IPL upgrader for a locked G4 i will be happy!
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If your Wizard is fully functional, why would you want to upgrade these on your device? If you do some reading on the Hermes you will find that the carriers/manufacturer are using the bootloaders to make it harder to update your device (i.e. the .0108 bootloaders) locking your device to a certain radio. I would steer away from upgrading these unless absolutely necessary, so as to upgrade a radio if required for example.
BTW: Most of the ROMs cooked for G4's that are cooked to not touch the bootloaders to 1) prevent noobs from bricking their device and 2)to allow any ROM to be installed. Aren't the developers great? They cook these for both G3 and G4.
IPL/SPL can't be replaced on a G4 with any of the roms atm, but if you got IPL/SPL 2.18 you're device isn't a G4!
vippie said:
IPL/SPL can't be replaced on a G4 with any of the roms atm, but if you got IPL/SPL 2.18 you're device isn't a G4!
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But I've got three zeros after that 2.18.0001 I think this is absolutely G4--> the reason why I want to update IPL is, my speaker make no voice and I think after that can be working again
That makes more sense. IPL/SPL 2.18.0001 makes it a G4. I haven't seen a update possibility for IPL/SPL on a G4 yet. Be very careful, flashing 2.26 on a G4 will brick you're device!
Draegloth said:
But I've got three zeros after that 2.18.0001 I think this is absolutely G4--> the reason why I want to update IPL is, my speaker make no voice and I think after that can be working again
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This doesn't mean you can't try flashing a different cooked rom for a G4. Try it, the other possibility may be a hardware failure (bad speaker).
ercave1 said:
This doesn't mean you can't try flashing a different cooked rom for a G4. Try it, the other possibility may be a hardware failure (bad speaker).
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So can you upload me anywhere a working G4 rom what update my 2.18 to 2.26. I really need that 'cause it may fix my bad speaker... I serched for G4 version but I couldn't find anywhere. Thanks forward
Draegloth said:
So can you upload me anywhere a working G4 rom what update my 2.18 to 2.26. I really need that 'cause it may fix my bad speaker... I serched for G4 version but I couldn't find anywhere. Thanks forward
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As mentioned in an earlier post... there is no way to update the IPL/SPL on a G4 as of yet. I do not think you will be able to find such a ROM. The only way I think you would be able to do this is if your carrier released an official ROM specifically for your G4 device, but that is unlikely. None of the G4 ROMS cooked by the Xda-Devs that I'm aware of, update the IPL/SPL. Try a different cooked G4 ROM, if that doesn't work I suggest having that speaker checked out. I don't remember reading anything anywhere about the bootloaders affecting the devices speaker function.
Hi all, Just got a an O2 mini S for my wife because she liked mine so much. Unfortunately it is a G4 (mine is a G3) and it has all of these CID unlocking issues. I want to put a WWE Rom on this German G4. Is it correct that if I unlock my phone at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ I can put any ROM on the G4? Or can I still only put certain ROMs (if so which ones?) on the G4? Thanks for any help.
Dave
yes http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ will cid unlock your phone, making it possible for you to flash your device with all sorts of roms using the normal ruu .exe method.
Alternatively you can use mun's shelltool.
Good Luck
Got it
I used the tutorial here: CID Locked Flashing (MUN's as you suggested), and I was able to flash a WWE Rom. I have to say I was scared I would damage the phone, but MUN's top notch instructions helped a lot.
Thanks for the help!
I am currently running the Cingular 2.25.0001 ipl/spl .. is there a better one out there that would be safe to upgrade to on my 8125 G4?
lol.. No one has any suggestions?! lol .. I see a couple people with 2.26 and 3.08 .. just wondering how those would work with my G4
You've got a WHOLE LOT of reading to do if you're thinking about changing your IPL/SPL on a G4 Wizard.
Good Luck!!
that's what I figured.. I wasnt sure if it was safe to do... or easier to do with my CID unlocked..
This thread would be the perfect place to start.
HA! Thanks newbie.. I guess I will be leaving my IPL/SPL alone .. .. Maybe I will wait for cingular to make an update.. lol.
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
apparently doesnt let you make calls. every time i try to dial a number, it says your international call cannot be completed as dialed... its useless, i just did it on my g3.
Madcap180 said:
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
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IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
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Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
Zzan said:
IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
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I have a G4 CID locked phone and IPL/SPL thats older than 2.26 and I see no reason to update them still, considering that I can upgrade everything else (OS, radio, ext rom, splash) without touching IPL/SPL. Of course, I am a little more cautious having bricked (yes, real "replacement required" type brick) my phone once.
120.fr said:
Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
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It's been a long time since you did this. Is it still working for you?
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628 With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL & reflash to your favorite ROM
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mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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@mestrini I am guessing you did not try this route.
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
Mr.Viet said:
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
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Only if your G4 Wizard is CID unlocked, but i guess it's not...
CyberianIce said:
You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
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why? even with NoID updater it's not possible to update a locked G4?
hi,
i was wondering if anyone could help me
trying to flash official t-mobile ruu (with ExtROM) onto o2 XDA
but CID locked, therefore unable to
can flash the OS rom using shelltool, but ExtROM is still O2
does anyone know how I can flash the official t-mobile tom using the RUU?
thanks for your advice
anonymous1 said:
hi,
i was wondering if anyone could help me
trying to flash official t-mobile ruu (with ExtROM) onto o2 XDA
but CID locked, therefore unable to
can flash the OS rom using shelltool, but ExtROM is still O2
does anyone know how I can flash the official t-mobile tom using the RUU?
thanks for your advice
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Which is your device,G3 or G4 ?
If you have a CID locked G3 phone,there's no need to use 'ShellTool',the T-mobile is also an official rom with its own extended rom,it'll flash easily,just flash it straight without shelltool.
thank you for the reply zabardast_1
I have a G4 device
I have tryed running the official RUU, but get an error message, because I think the device is CID locked. That is why I used shelltool (and also tryed soft SPL and hard SPL without any luck flashing the comeplete ROM)
As I said, I can flash the OS ROM using shelltool, but not extended ROM. Is it possible to flash the whole RUU?
I've been searching the various forums to see if there is a (free) method of CID unlocking a G4 device, but I think many may have lost interest with the wizard with all the other devices coming out.
Any and all help gratefully received. Thank you
anonymous1 said:
thank you for the reply zabardast_1
I have a G4 device
I have tryed running the official RUU, but get an error message, because I think the device is CID locked. That is why I used shelltool (and also tryed soft SPL and hard SPL without any luck flashing the comeplete ROM)
As I said, I can flash the OS ROM using shelltool, but not extended ROM. Is it possible to flash the whole RUU?
I've been searching the various forums to see if there is a (free) method of CID unlocking a G4 device, but I think many may have lost interest with the wizard with all the other devices coming out.
Any and all help gratefully received. Thank you
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G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,if you want to upgrade or install any other rom use 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',
YES ! you can only flash 'nk.nbf' (OS files) only with SoftSPL or HardSPL,but Extended_rom is not possible.
zabardast_1 said:
G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,if you want to upgrade or install any other rom use 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',
YES ! you can only flash 'nk.nbf' (OS files) only with SoftSPL or HardSPL,but Extended_rom is not possible.
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Figured as much!
Hence my question