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For those wondering what's de difference between each radio version, I've compiled a table with all radio ROMs available for the Hermes from the info I could extract from the decoded radios.
Here comes an explanation of each field, some things are just my guess and others are unknown to me:
Radio: Shipped Radio version as shown on splash screen or device information under WM5.
Protocol: If it ends in W means it's WEDGE (WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE), if it ends in H means HEDGE (HSDPA/WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE).
KMRX: M6275B-KMRX version (don't ask me what is this!)... seems to be part of the protocol string.
HTC_BOOT: HTC Radio Bootloader version.
QC_BOOT: Qualcomm bootloader version.
DATE1: First date string found (1 time) - this is most probably the radio build date.
DATE2: Second date string found (6 times) - this seems to be the common base between radio's build date.
JNAND: QUALCOMM JNAND Version and build date of JNAND.ELF for MSM6275 SURF and FFA
I have the feeling that HTC_BOOT V1.0108 will be a pain in the ass
If someone can bring more information, it is welcome
Some more information
RADIO VERSION
The Qualcomm MSM6275 chipset is found on Hermes, Trinity and Breeze devices.
If radio version ends in "1" it means GPS is enabled in this radio, if it ends in "0" it means is disabled. Example:
Radio 1.21.31.10 ==> GPS is disabled
Radio 1.22.01.01 ==> GPS is enabled
To see NMEA data you can use the command "[email protected]" in GSM AT Command interpreter. To stop receiving NMEA data use "[email protected]". It is possible to flash a GPS enabled radio from Trinity on Hermes, but Hermes hardware seems to lack either the antenna or the RF amplifier (or both) and it is not possible to use the MSM6275 as internal GPS on Hermes. See related thread for more info on this.
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HTC_BOOT
This is the radio bootloader, do not confuse with normal bootloader (SPL).
Until now there are three radio bootloader versions found inside hermes radio (GSM.nb): 1.0106, 1.0107 and 1.0108
The last 4 digits of the radio bootloader version is returned by radio bootloader command "rversion".
These are the known differences between them:
1.0106 -- still has command 'rrbmc' to read back the memory content
1.0107 -- command 'rrbmc' does not work anymore, but it has been replaced by command 'rdpram' with the same syntax.
1.0108 -- this was first seen in Softbank X01HT post december 2nd devices (radio 1.14) and is also included in some trinity radios. The peculiarities of this radio bootloader version are explained here:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device, you can't use extracted radio ROMs: This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format (ie: full ROM upgrade).
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format, the radio will not be flashed unless your SPL version is 1.09.
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 on your device and flash a full ROM upgrade in NBH format with SPL-1.09 on your device, your radio will be changed to the radio contained in the NBH file, HOWEVER the radio bootloader will stay the same HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
The same, explained in other words:
If you have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (for example softbank x01ht 1.14 radio) and want to flash radio 1.21.31.10 on your device:
Upgrade your SPL to version 1.09, either by flashing a full rom containing SPL 1.09 or by flashing only this SPL with MFG bootloader.
Flash a full ROM containing 1.21.31.10 (or your desired) radio version, for example jasjam 1.31 rom. This will put radio 1.21.31.10 on your device, but HTC_BOOT will be 1.0108 even if the radio 1.21.31.10 has HTC_BOOT 1.0107.
Flash MFG bootloader again and flash extrom and OS "manually" from MFG.
Results after this:
Radio 1.21 will be back on your device, but HTC_BOOT 0108 will stay instead of being the original HTC_BOOT found on radio 1.21 (HTC_BOOT 0107). This means you will not be able to flash radios in NBF format with MaUpgrade_NoID.exe anymore, you'll allways need to flash them in signed NBH format.
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Recommendation:
Don't flash any HTC_BOOT 0108 radio on your deivce if you plan to test Trinity's GPS enabled radios on Hermes, because you'll loose the ability to flash radios in NBF.
There are 2 trinity GPS enabled radios:
- 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108
- 1.22 with HTC_BOOT 0107
If you want to test, flash the 1.22, otherwise when you flash a new full hermes ROM in NBH you will keep the HTC_BOOT 0108 and will never be able to flash a Trinity radio on Hermes again.
Uau! pof, this is a very interesting info. Did you translate it to the wiki?
Not yet, I'm still doing research on the radio and will be using this post to add my findings. When I think it's complete then will probably write the wiki page.
To pof:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom). If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
Thank you for your kindly reply first!
kamiru said:
Must a radio version 1.14 of X01HT be 1.0108? How can we check it?
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All softbank X01HT post 2006-12-02 with ROM version 1.33.761.4 have:
- radio 1.14 with HTC_BOOT 1.0108 (radio bootloader)
- SPL-1.09 (normal bootloader)
You can't check it because you need to access the radio bootloader for that, but the command to do this (rtask a) has been removed in SPL-1.09.
If you downgrade the SPL to 1.04, you can see it using radio bootloader command "rversion":
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
kamiru said:
So we can only upgrade the radio rom by a full rom only (ex: jasjam 1.31 rom).
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Yes, and after having unlocked your phone with imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b). Otherwise you will not be able to flash other full rom because SPL-1.09 will check your CID and give you the "invalid vender id" error all the time.
kamiru said:
If we do it, whether it has other effect on our devices? I think we still can flash other full rom after do it, isn't it?
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You loose softbank warranty after doing it, that's the only downside.
flash without radio
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
trion said:
I gues when the new HTC firmware comes out, it will most likely have a radio with HTC_BOOT 1.0108.
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I guess that too, as new trinity ROMs are coming out with that version.
trion said:
so is it then possible the extract everything from it and flash it without the radio part.
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Yes, using the 1.01 MFG bootloader.
trion said:
this way we can allways chose witch radio we want to have, including the gps enabled radio. Or else it will be impossible to flash the gps enabled radio in the future, or am I wrong?
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You're right.
There is a new Radio-Rom in FTP-Uploads (1.27.0.0).Can anyone confirm, that is has 1.0107 ?
It has 0107, it's safe
Code:
USB>[B]rtask a[/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Enter Radio Bootloader[/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="DimGray"]rversion[/COLOR][/B]
[COLOR="SeaGreen"]0108[/COLOR]
Dear pof,
After I checked my device, I found it is 0108 version. But I think my device does not be hacked by imei-check unlocker latest version (v4b), since I used it before v4b release.
So whether I can upgrade to a full rom? After I upgrade it, whether I need to purchase the imei-check unlocker?? thank you for your kindly reply again.
@kamiru: If your device is SuperCID you can upgrade the radio in NBH format with bootloader 1.09, either by flashing a full rom or the 1.27 shipped radio we have now. If it's not SuperCID you'll need to purchase the imei-check unlocker.
Need SPL-1.09...
I used the HERMES Bootloader 1.01 MFG to check the HTC_boot on my x01ht, and it's 1.08.
So now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file? I only have the spl-1.04.nb and spl-1.01.nbs from the .zip.
Mike
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it.
sorry
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
or is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
Thanks
Superenchi said:
now I need to go back to SPL 1.09 but where's the file?
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here.
apokryphus said:
you have to flash your devicewith a complete rom to get the version 1.09 on it?
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No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
walshieau said:
ok so if i purchase the imei-check unlocker, does that give me SuperCID even though my device is not sim locked?
what does the imei-check actually do?
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Not sure, ask their support team
funks said:
Considering that a full rom update will flash the HTC radio bootloader, can an older full rom update downgrade and replace the HTC radio bootloader to an older version?
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No, once HTC_BOOT 0108 is flashed on your device there is no known way to downgrade it, at the moment it will stick forever.
funks said:
is there some sort of dependency that the radio bootloader can only be flushed up a version.
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0107 can be downgraded to 0106, but 0108 can't.
hokkeung said:
Where to download 1.29 with HTC_BOOT 0108?
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here.
Dear POF,
Sorry to my poor English first. So,as you say,if HTC-bootloader upgrade to 1.08,I can still flashed other rom and radio with running full rom method?What I can not do is I can't downgrade the Radio Bootloader?Is that what you mean?Thanks for your help!!!
pof said:
here.
No, use SPL-1.01 MFG to flash SPL-1.09 only.
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Sorry my fault, didn´t noticed that you´ve extracted it already till now i thought there were only 1.01.nbs and 1.04.nb as extractet bootloader-files.
Please help!
I have upgraded raido 1.29.00.11 form "Experimental", now I can't change radio to any version.....
How can I do?
Thanks
You've Probably Flashed Radio Bootloader 108 On To Your Device.
This Means That You Will Not Be Able To Flash Just A Radio Rom Any More. You'll Have To Flash A Whole Rom Just To Upgrade The Radio. There Are Notices About 108 All Over The Forum
mousey_ said:
You've Probably Flashed Radio Bootloader 108 On To Your Device.
This Means That You Will Not Be Able To Flash Just A Radio Rom Any More. You'll Have To Flash A Whole Rom Just To Upgrade The Radio. There Are Notices About 108 All Over The Forum
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Thanks for your information.
I already fixed this issue. ^^
piao said:
Thanks for your information.
I already fixed this issue. ^^
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If you accidentally flashed your Radio Bootloader, how did you go back to the previous version.
My guess is that you were already SuperCID and you had to load a complete older ROM to get back. Am I correct?
wpbear said:
If you accidentally flashed your Radio Bootloader, how did you go back to the previous version.
My guess is that you were already SuperCID and you had to load a complete older ROM to get back. Am I correct?
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Yes, I had SuperCID.
My method was upgrade to latest ROM (Include SPL-1.09) and twice successive flash.
First, SPL will upgrade 1.09, but radio still 1.29.00.11
Second, Radio will upgrade 1.34.00.10
not quite. Your radio bootloader is not downgraded. You can no longer flash radio in nbf with bl 1.04. You must flash in nbh using bl1.09. Then you can downgrade bootloader to 1.01MFG and flash os/extrom of your choice.
Sleuth255 said:
not quite. Your radio bootloader is not downgraded. You can no longer flash radio in nbf with bl 1.04. You must flash in nbh using bl1.09. Then you can downgrade bootloader to 1.01MFG and flash os/extrom of your choice.
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So he can change radio or not?
He can change. But he must start with a specific Bootloader and flash a full RUU in nbh. Then he must put on BL1.01MFG and flash seperate os.nb and extrom to change to the os build he wants. The "radio only" upgrades flash in nbf and will not work any more.
Sleuth255 said:
He can change. But he must start with a specific Bootloader and flash a full RUU in nbh. Then he must put on BL1.01MFG and flash seperate os.nb and extrom to change to the os build he wants. The "radio only" upgrades flash in nbf and will not work any more.
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ok thanks, i'm iterresting for radio upgrade only (after bigggg mistake Flashed HTC_BOOT 1.08).
SO no issue for me now:-(
The key here is that Bl1.09 and radio bl 1.0108 work together. 1.09 will not allow the radio to upgrade unless flashed in NBH. Radio bl 1.0108 will not permit upgrades unless initiated from bl 1.09. If superCID is enabled then bl 1.09 will permit any operator's rom, flashed in nbh, to upgrade the radio.
I really need to flowchart this for the wiki... I barely understand this myself...
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
Actuality, I used this ROM "RUU_Hermes_HTC_WWE_2.05.255.1_6275_1.34.00.10 _108 _Test.exe".
After flashed, I don't change SPL to 1.01 MFG or 1.04, just re-flashed it again.
The radio will be change 1.34.00.10.
apokryphus said:
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
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Device BL 1.09 acts as the "key" for Radio BL 1.0108. By flashing to Device BL 1.01, or any other, you have broken the "key" and now can't access the radio rom...basically.
Ninja1
apokryphus said:
but why, after restoring all, bootloader 1.01mfg etc. it is still impossible to flash radio rom only?
i can´t get it.
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radio bl 1.0108 won't allow upgrade to occur unless initiated by bl1.09. bl1.09 won't allow radio flashing in nbf (which is what all extracted radio rom only files use)
I've read and reread various posts about this. I just want to make sure I have the steps down before I go forward.
What I have now:
Cingular 8525
Rom: 1.34.502.1
Radio version : 1.16
SPL: 1.06
What I would like achieve:
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
Am I missing something in the process?
Lastly, Is this the best COMBINATION of ROM, radio, and ext ROM? And how does RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2[1].06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship compared to 2.05?
Thanks for any input.
5)
anubus12 said:
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1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
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I guess there isnt really any need to do that, if you flash SPL 1.01MFG to it then theres no need to do this step.
anubus12 said:
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2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
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I would use the unlocker v3 (i suspect you meant v3 anyway)
anubus12 said:
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3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
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The ROM you choose is entirely up to you so yes this should be ok
anubus12 said:
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4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
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Yep goes without saying ;-)
anubus12 said:
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5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
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IF you are doing this then it would be the FIRST step you do
anubus12 said:
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6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
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Still....yes no problem.
anubus12 said:
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8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
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This part is beyond what i did, my process was that i upgraded to radio ROM 1.27.00.00 using the signed .exe because i originally had SPL 1.09.
anubus12 said:
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Am I missing something in the process?
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You seem to have it figured out, but dont go on what i say here, wait for it to be verified by more than just me
My process (having already got superCID and unlocked a while ago) was to upgrade to radio 1.27.00.00 before anything else, then to flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty, then flash the OS.nb file from the ROM i chose, then to flash ExtROM.nb (again from the ROM i chose). By using radio 1.27 you will have radio loader 107 which is recommended still.
Once some other people have looked over what you posted then you should go ahead (if they all give the "all clear" )
You combination of rom and radio is a good idea (the ROM and ExtROM is entirely up to you but the radio is the highest that doesnt have loader 108?)
It's even easier than that;
get my Custom RUU kit and you can skip the reflash;
take the 3.3AKU and extract the RUU_Signed.
extract the RUU signed with NBHExtract or my GUI tool (make sure it's all in the same directory) then you can create a NEW RUU with SPL 1.04, whatever radio you like (if you want a new one) and the 3.3 OS AKU.
remember: if you do it this way, you can have whatever components you want; ExtROM, OS, mix and match anything.
however... if you don't think you can manage doing this, tell me what you want and I'll happily assemble it for you
1. SuperCid and Unlock with POF VERSION 3
Website:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Install Instructions:
Easy auto-install Instructions:
Unzip unlocker and run AUTO_Unlock_v3.bat
If you don't want to install automatically, or for some reason the process doesn't work for you, here are the manual instructions:
Transfer SSPL/SSPL-HERM.exe to your phone and run it
Tri-color screen will appear
Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUt.exe
Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
Allow your phone to reboot.
Transfer HERM_Unlock_v3.exe program to your phone and run it
Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
2. Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
I think radio 1.33 or 1.34 is better then 1.27. I do not see a difference between 1.33 or 1.34 though.
You pretty much had the process but this will be easier for you.
just to point out; SuperCID and Unlock (unless using a different SIM) is unnecessary and *could* potentially invalidate your warranty.
SuperCID is pretty much redundant nowadays with the new SSPL; the only real advantage to having your device SuperCID is if there isn't a ROM for your CID with old version stuff to revert to.
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
anubus12 said:
Also, where can I get your GUI?
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Nevermind, I found your GUI. Thanks!
The only advantage of real SuperCID is being able to write to extrom once you've unlocked it.
You did a real nice v1.0 upgrade set of instructions btw They were perfect. In fact that's exactly what I did to upgrade my 8525.
However, the recent explosion of NBHtools that take advantage of Des' SSPL technique (nicely done Olipro btw )have opened up much better ways to accomplish this now.
anubus12 said:
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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no, you do *not* have to SuperCID at all with my RUU since it uses SSPL.
if you use the custom RUU (and you can tell, it has the XDA Dev logo on) then your device does not need to be SuperCID
anubus12 said:
@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
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You SHOULD be ok, i downgraded to SPL 1.01MFG from version 1.09 by just flashing it using mtty.exe. I followed the instructions on the How to Flash AKU3.3 Update thread (the first post) to get my new ROM onto my device. I used the HTC AKU3.3 Test ROM and it worked just great.
anubus12 said:
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
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I do not think Pof unlocker put BL 108 on your device, but it doesnt matter anymore since SSPL bypass this and you can now still do radio only changes.
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@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
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No, the bootloader bypasses this now, but as someone else pointed out, if you want to change your Ext_ROM with the hack in the Wiki later, you will need to SuperCID still.
anubus12 said:
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
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OS/Ext ROM: 2.06
Radio 1.34 or 1.27
wpbear said:
Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
Same result, same question.
Why?
Where can I download this Rom?
Where can I download this Rom?
Download link doesn't work....
anubus12 said:
@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
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Are you SuperCID with POf unlocker?
SuperCID/unlock yes. POF no.
Wiki and numberous posts indicate if the unit is SuperCID, it is SuperCID period however there is a v2 v2a and v3.
Is there more to SuperCID than just SuperCID?
Sometimes it sticks and sometimes it does not?
Can v3 be run over top of an existing SuperCID/unlocked unit without risk?
True you are either SuperCID or not, but we have seen people loose SuperCID for no apparent reason. Use mtty and check if you are still SuperCID.
Still superCID, still 1.06.
rvc said:
Still superCID, still 1.06.
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once you have superCID you can downgrade your bootloader by this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
OK, well... I'd like to introduce Hard-SPL; available in 3 flavours:
SPL 2.10 based on 2.02 will be released shortly at £5 per person... only kidding... it's free, and out now, but do consider a donation
1) 2.10 - Hard-SPL-V7 - see Changelog for further details
(at the bottom)
2) 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04 and unlocked - use for rtask commands.
View attachment Hard-SPL.zip
3) 1.01 - Olipro MFG - based on 1.01, and really for testing only.
View attachment Spl-Olipro-MFG.zip
TO FLASH THE NEW Hard-SPL, Select Force-SPL, you should only choose otherwise when recovering your device from an old Hard-SPL version!
RUU now forces SSPL every time... do not use this RUU for anything else.
For older CustomRUU users; pick the 1.40 option, autodetect will not work... or download and use the new CustomRUU
1.01 is provided as SSPL and SPL; SPL is intended for flashing, SSPL is intended to be loaded by SSPL, neither of these are packaged as an NBH since if you intend to play with it, you should know how to make your own package for it.
Bad Blocks SPL Available! - Hard-SPL-V6.zip - fixed RUU bug for those using 1.11/1.13/1.30
Code:
[b]CURRENT FEATURES[/b]
-SuperCID
-no file signing required
-no password required to authenticate with bootloader
-bad NAND can be recovered with "task 2a"
-bad NAND can be recovered by flashing an OS
-SPL protected from all HTC retail SPLs being flashed by accident (to bypass, use SSPL)
-IPL protected from all flashes; protection against bogus NBH's
-bad NAND can again be checked for with "info 8"
-version displays 2.10.Olipro
-no longer tries to read bad NAND - should fix whitescreen issue
[b]ChangeLog[/b]
[b]Hard-SPL-2.10[/b]
-based on a newer SPL base; bugfixes.
-IPL flashing disabled to prevent bogus NBHs bricking your device.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.40[/b]
-repairs a bug that affected SPL being replaced by retail ones.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.35[/b]
-addresses an issue for those with Real Bad Blocks to prevent whitescreens.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.30[/b]
- removed password for wdata commands and rbmc etc.
- activated "task 2a" to allow recovering bad blocks as well as flashing valid OS.
- Disabled SPL flashing; this SPL protects you from writing over it by accident.
- Bad Blocks "info 8" command works now allowing you to check for bad blocks.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.13[/b]
- Patched NAND check; bad NAND ignored, valid OS can be flashed to recover bad blocks.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.11[/b]
- Flashing Radio BL 0108 now supported
- Downgrading SPL no longer allowed.
- rtask command removed.
- new RUU interface required to flash ROM files.
[b]Hard-SPL-1.10[/b]
-Initial release; SuperCID and no signing required
-Compatible only with Radio BL 0107
-has rtask commands for accessing radio facilities.
Looking for other SPL Files? scroll back up! they're at the top underneath each version heading!
please remember that 1.35 and 1.40 are the same as 1.30, so when using CustomRUU, either select that, or download the NEW customRUU and overwrite.
Olipro said:
ROM's not available yet; I'm sending them to pof for testing before anybody is allowed to flash this... there's still a chance you could brick your phone
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great stuff... i'll report in a while
Damn... a lot of people are sure gonna like this! How about doing 1.01MFG too so we can still flash os.nb in < 5 mins with lnb?
Sleuth255 said:
Damn... a lot of people are sure gonna like this! How about doing 1.01MFG too so we can still flash os.nb in < 5 mins with lnb?
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if someone sent me it as a .nb then certainly... a proper nb... unsigned.
Current Status: Pof has successfully flashed his device, unsigned ROM seems to be flashing fine, if all is well, then I'll get a package ready within the next 10 minutes.
man it works!! That's the safest thing to put on an hermes
Thanks Olipro
Fantastic work! This will definitely be a big help to everyone.
not to sound stupid or anything, but what does this enable your phone to do exactly??
Its the holy grail of hermes flashing! As long as there's no bad blocks in NAND, bricking due to corrupted CID can now be now be avoided.
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if someone sent me it as a .nb then certainly... a proper nb... unsigned.
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only 1.01MFG I've ever seen is .nbs
koolhand79 said:
not to sound stupid or anything, but what does this enable your phone to do exactly??
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Same features as SSPL, but flashed on the phone and with bootloader version 1.04 (hex edited to be shown as 1.10.Oli), that is:
Ability to bypass signature in NBH files (friendly for cooked roms)
Ability to access radio bootloader (no more corrupted CID bricks)
Shows itself as SuperCID when doing a rom upgrade (but it internally isn't)
Can be uninstalled by just reflashing a shipped SPL, so no warranty is lost
Sleuth255 said:
only 1.01MFG I've ever seen is .nbs
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yeah, but it's just the .nb with the NBH headers on... I'm a lazy sod and was hoping someone had already made it an nb to save me the time
also... in a few seconds, a flash package for my SPL will be available!
When? When? When? Waiting... Yahooo. Good news to us all as cooking and flashing going to be as safe as possible.
Okay it is my time to sound like a moron.
Alright I get the general idea of what this does, not could someone point, no need to show the link, just mention where in the documentation I can find more real info on this.
Probably Des or Olipro can answer that:
Can we also patch the SPL to always write 0xFF on the "disastrous 517th byte" of each physical NAND page? (or not overwrite the existing value, whichever is better), this way even when the flashed OS.nb contains a value != than 0xFF on that byte, will not produce a bad block and this would make flashing cooked images _really_ fool proof.
For those willing to go deeply, read Des comment here.
pof said:
Same features as SSPL, but flashed on the phone and with bootloader version 1.04 (hex edited to be shown as 1.10.Oli), that is:
Ability to bypass signature in NBH files (friendly for cooked roms)
Ability to access radio bootloader (no more corrupted CID bricks)
Shows itself as SuperCID when doing a rom upgrade (but it internally isn't)
Can be uninstalled by just reflashing a shipped SPL, so no warranty is lost
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Not that there's a heck of a lot of reason for doing it any more but does that mean we can now downgrade radio bl versions? Also will it help recover from bad bootloader flashes? I am constantly in awe of the brilliant people in this forum!
chymmylt said:
does that mean we can now downgrade radio bl versions?
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No, if you have 0108, will keep 0108.
chymmylt said:
Also will it help recover from bad bootloader flashes?
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No... a bad flash in bootloader means a bricked device, but this is not common on hermes, the most common is bad flash in radio which can only be fixed if the bootloader is 1.04 or the rom has KITL enabled.
pof said:
No, if you have 0108, will keep 0108.
No... a bad flash in bootloader means a bricked device, but this is not common on hermes, the most common is bad flash in radio which can only be fixed if the bootloader is 1.04 or the rom has KITL enabled.
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that means you've overwritten the bootloader I have made... so obviously not.
however, the bootloader does have built-in recovery functions (HTC's work) and generally you need to be doing something funky to bugger the SPL up.
pof said:
No, if you have 0108, will keep 0108.
No... a bad flash in bootloader means a bricked device, but this is not common on hermes, the most common is bad flash in radio which can only be fixed if the bootloader is 1.04 or the rom has KITL enabled.
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Still very exciting! Y'all da man! (Men?)
Thanks again!
For those with 1.01MFG or 1.04 SuperCID, will this new BL give any new benefits? I understand those with 1.09 will benefit, but, is it worth flashing if I already have 1.01MFG on the device?
with this will i be able to upgrade and downgrade to any radio i want regardless of nbh or nbf, since no one is answering me in the thread i created about this. lol
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .