Downgrade to WM5 on Congular 8525 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

I know this is somewhere but I couldn't find anything definitive. I put WM6 on my phone but want to put it back to WM5. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.

brainiac978 said:
I know this is somewhere but I couldn't find anything definitive. I put WM6 on my phone but want to put it back to WM5. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
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hey man here you go :
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/

Thank you this helped a lot. Do I need to downgrade the radio and SPL?

brainiac978 said:
Thank you this helped a lot. Do I need to downgrade the radio and SPL?
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I have to ask this - WHY??????????

-There are some programs that are not WM6 compatible
-There are some features/programs missing from the cooked ROMs
-If you sell the phone, and the person needs warranty work done, you want WM5
-You need to send it in for warranty repair
-You want actual tech support from your operator or HTC (even though this forum is better)
-You like being behind the times?
bodypilot said:
I have to ask this - WHY??????????
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brainiac978 said:
Thank you this helped a lot. Do I need to downgrade the radio and SPL?
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You don't NEED to do ANYTHING! Personally, I'd keep 1.40.Oli as your SPL, and 1.38.00.10 as your radio, and put on Cingular's 2.06 rom if you want WM5. Use Black 2.0 if you want WM6.. You can always downgrade radio and SPL if you need to later on, but, for now, leave it alone.

Well the only reason I ask is because I do plan on selling the phone, so I just want to make sure That I'm doing everything right...if that makes sense? I did super CID the phone though...

brainiac978 said:
Well the only reason I ask is because I do plan on selling the phone, so I just want to make sure That I'm doing everything right...if that makes sense? I did super CID the phone though...
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Leave the radio and HardSPL on the phone if you are selling it. Id say they were a good upgrade to sell alongside the device.

To mrvanx
In your this guide you use romkoch to generate NBH from NB files.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
But in the romkoch software there is a tab NBH to NB tab, why is it that your quide don't use this to extract the NBH file?

I personally prefer to use NBHextract.
Im changing to guide to use a different app soon anyway.

Do I need to use that app to downrade if I am going to use an official rom from Cingular... their updated one?

a7xsoad said:
Do I need to use that app to downrade if I am going to use an official rom from Cingular... their updated one?
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The downgrade guide is fine as it is, however i am updating it. Its up to you wether you use it now or after i update it.

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Make Cingular/ATT 8525 work with T-Mobile

Hi guys..
I just got my ATT/Cingular 8525 and it wasnt unlocked and iam using T-Mobile service..
Would anyone know by any chance how to make this phone work with T-Mobile sim card?
Thank you...
Since you cant be bothered to read for yourself, heres the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
(its at the top of this forum)
mrvanx said:
Since you cant be bothered to read for yourself, heres the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
(its at the top of this forum)
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I am really sorry about that.
I was searching everywhere and i coudnt find it so i desided to post a quaetion..and then couple hours later i finally found all the info about unlocking the phone...but i couldnt delete this msg...
Thank you though for your reply.
that seems like a waste to me since t-mobile has no HSDPA. might as well have got the wing
austinsnyc said:
that seems like a waste to me since t-mobile has no HSDPA. might as well have got the wing
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The phone was a present.....
I actually now have another problem..i dont know if i hould post it separatly somewhere...
I tried to change setting so MMS would work and i used the cab file i found on wiki link...I am just not sure if i am donig everything i need to do to make it work. I just trasfered that cab file to my phone and installed it...took approximatly couple seconds and my MMS still not working......
I would be very greatfull for any help....
Thank you
austinsnyc said:
that seems like a waste to me since t-mobile has no HSDPA. might as well have got the wing
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T-mobile offers HSDPA here and is starting to offer HSDPA in the UK soon
Glyutlin said:
The phone was a present.....
I actually now have another problem..i dont know if i hould post it separatly somewhere...
I tried to change setting so MMS would work and i used the cab file i found on wiki link...I am just not sure if i am donig everything i need to do to make it work. I just trasfered that cab file to my phone and installed it...took approximatly couple seconds and my MMS still not working......
I would be very greatfull for any help....
Thank you
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I had the same problem with the 8525 using the stock ATT ROM and MMS. The only way i could make it work was to use a cooked rom(which you will like better anyways IMO). Make sure if you flash ur phone to use HardSPL to keep from bricking ur phone.
Here is a link to a good howto for flashing: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
Also if your going to flash it then you will need the keyboard layout fix here
We've already got HSDPA, thankyouverymuch ;-)
What ROM are you running on the 8525? Have you upgraded it to WM6 or is still running the pre-installed cingular WM5 one?
Smiffy.
austinsnyc said:
that seems like a waste to me since t-mobile has no HSDPA. might as well have got the wing
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umm and just forget the fact that it has 200mhz...vs. a 8525 a 400mhz...not the smartest comment lol
I have no idea. I am still trying to learn how to access all the features.
I had Nokia 9500 before that and this phone is slightly different.
WM and ROM info should appear when i am restarting the device?
I am pretty sure i had WM5,but i am not sure....
Just go into Start --> Settings --> System --> About and that will tell you what OS it is running
Oh..Thank you
It says:
ROM Version - 2.15.502.3
ROM Date - 04/09/2007
Radio Version -1.16.00.00
Protocol Version - 32.53.7018.01H
Windows Mobile 5.0
OS 5.1.478 (Build 15706.3.5.2)

Crossbow

ok if you look at all smartphone forums there you'll notes there all
trying to get wm6 on there smatphones eg:- Tornado,StarTrek,Hurricane
so is there any way we can get wm6 on HTC Monet
could we flash a wm6 os.nb say from fox but with are xip
would that work or is there any other way
anyone tried / failed / know what the story is re the monet/lobby & wm6 ? ;-)
dt_matthews said:
anyone tried / failed / know what the story is re the monet/lobby & wm6 ? ;-)
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i try 4 times to put wm6 on my lobster and killed my every time
rickwyatt said:
i try 4 times to put wm6 on my lobster and killed my every time
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did you obtain a monet specific rom then?
dt_matthews said:
did you obtain a monet specific rom then?
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no but i read some were that the monet was the same as the Tornado just with the dab stuff added
rickwyatt said:
no but i read some were that the monet was the same as the Tornado just with the dab stuff added
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can anyone confirm that a Tornado wm6 rom is compatible with a monet?
dt_matthews said:
can anyone confirm that a Tornado wm6 rom is compatible with a monet?
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DO NOT TRY TO FLASH ROMS FROM DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, you may brick your phone.
If you have supercid , try this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/45915194/RUU.rar.html
it's only the OS module of a modified version of WM6 from Tornado, without SPL, IPL (bootloader), etc. so it will not brick your phone, even if the update stops. if it's not compatible, it will just destroy your os which can be flashed back very easy (if you have supercid), otherwise you have to do extra stuff..
PS: i don't know how to supercid/sim unlock monet. don't know if spv-services (the app for supercid & simunlock) is compatible with this.
sorry for my stupidity/total lack of knowledge but where can you get supercid (have searched but cant see anything obvious) and are you saying that I can try the RUU ? And what is the correlation between RUU and supercid and simunlock (and why do i need them). I could really do with an FAQ /noobie guide, can anyone point me to one??
dt_matthews said:
sorry for my stupidity/total lack of knowledge but where can you get supercid (have searched but cant see anything obvious) and are you saying that I can try the RUU ? And what is the correlation between RUU and supercid and simunlock (and why do i need them). I could really do with an FAQ /noobie guide, can anyone point me to one??
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you have to pay £20.00 from here http://www.imei-check.co.uk/lobsterunlock.php
my q was what they do -- simunlock fairly obvious but supercid? and where can i get it??
dt_matthews said:
my q was what they do -- simunlock fairly obvious but supercid? and where can i get it??
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go to that link they simunlock and supercid in one tool you pay £20.00
one more thing if your thinking about flashing this
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http://rapidshare.com/files/45915194/RUU.rar.html
it's only the OS module of a modified version of WM6 from Tornado, without SPL, IPL (bootloader), etc. so it will not brick your phone, even if the update stops. if it's not compatible, it will just destroy your os which can be flashed back very easy (if you have supercid), otherwise you have to do extra stuff..
PS: i don't know how to supercid/sim unlock monet. don't know if spv-services (the app for supercid & simunlock) is compatible with this.
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then remember if any thing goes wrong then you wont be able to get you lobby back because virgin haven't realest a rom upgrade for it
does anyone have a stand-alone app that can be used for the DAB radio on the monet? I wouldnt upgrade my monet if it meant losing the DAB functionality...
dt_matthews, you could easily extract the TV Dab application from the lobster if the WM6 update works.
What an interesting idea though, I remember the doctor telling me that this theory may work as he was going to extract the OS from the Tornado and flash it on the Hurricane but never got round to it.
I will ask him on msn he if thinks this should work.
mini_man said:
dt_matthews, you could easily extract the TV Dab application from the lobster if the WM6 update works.
What an interesting idea though, I remember the doctor telling me that this theory may work as he was going to extract the OS from the Tornado and flash it on the Hurricane but never got round to it.
I will ask him on msn he if thinks this should work.
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wicked, cheers dude, that would be great to know as i love the DAB and coldnt do without it but would love to get my monet running wm6 ;-) any info/guidace massively appreciated!
Sorry I never got back to this.
It's a no go, apparently you cannot just flash the OS section from a different device.

Flashing UK Ameo back to WM5

Does anyone have the WM5 rom image for the UK T-mob AMEO?
I would like to flash it back to WM5.
Please no question saying 'why do you wanna go back? WM6 is teh 733t!', i need to flash back as i am selling the item to a non PDA pro.
Thanks!
why do you wanna go back?
even non pro users can tell that wm6 is better than wm5 on ameo
simond10 said:
Does anyone have the WM5 rom image for the UK T-mob AMEO?
I would like to flash it back to WM5.
Please no question saying 'why do you wanna go back? WM6 is teh 733t!', i need to flash back as i am selling the item to a non PDA pro.
Thanks!
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So you want to send the poor guy back to the stone age If I have to sell a device I only remove my installed subscribed programs and pass on the rest. What is good for the goose.................
Hi simond10
I think there is no way to go back to WM5 for now.
Regards,
Silviu
PS. Nevermind you said "Please no question...", some just don't seem to get it.
silviu.h said:
Hi simond10
I think there is no way to go back to WM5 for now.
Regards,
Silviu
PS. Nevermind you said "Please no question...", some just don't seem to get it.
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nice to know someone can read
simond10 said:
nice to know someone can read
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I imagine that you wish to go back to wm5 for warranty purposes. There is unfortunately no way of doing this, however the leaked T-Mobile WWE wm6 ROM indicates that T-Mobile are ready to provide this software update in the VERY near future via their software upgrade link.
Provided your phone doesn't break in the next month or so you can simply install the official update when it is released and 'voila' warranty intact.
If your reasons are NOT warranty related then I apologise, though I see no other reason for going back.
leoni1980 said:
I imagine that you wish to go back to wm5 for warranty purposes. There is unfortunately no way of doing this, however the leaked T-Mobile WWE wm6 ROM indicates that T-Mobile are ready to provide this software update in the VERY near future via their software upgrade link.
Provided your phone doesn't break in the next month or so you can simply install the official update when it is released and 'voila' warranty intact.
If your reasons are NOT warranty related then I apologise, though I see no other reason for going back.
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for me there is a gd reason for back wm5, that is blackberry not working.
did you try the roms in ftp?
leoni1980 said:
I imagine that you wish to go back to wm5 for warranty purposes. There is unfortunately no way of doing this, however the leaked T-Mobile WWE wm6 ROM indicates that T-Mobile are ready to provide this software update in the VERY near future via their software upgrade link.
Provided your phone doesn't break in the next month or so you can simply install the official update when it is released and 'voila' warranty intact.
If your reasons are NOT warranty related then I apologise, though I see no other reason for going back.
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Ufortunatley im putting it on ebay this weekend :|
beginner said:
for me there is a gd reason for back wm5, that is blackberry not working.
did you try the roms in ftp?
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There is no rom for a T-mob Ameo there
simond10 said:
Ufortunatley im putting it on ebay this weekend :|
There is no rom for a T-mob Ameo there
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sorry but appears RUU_Athena_TMO_DE_1.12.111.6_1.32.00.00_Ship.rar
beginner said:
sorry but appears RUU_Athena_TMO_DE_1.12.111.6_1.32.00.00_Ship.rar
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I meant Tmob UK
If anybody can tell me how to backup a rom ill make a Tmob UK WM5 rom myself and post it on the ftp using my other WM5 Ameo.
simond10 said:
I meant Tmob UK
If anybody can tell me how to backup a rom ill make a Tmob UK WM5 rom myself and post it on the ftp using my other WM5 Ameo.
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http://uploaded.to/?id=wbbw2u
This is a WWE version. There's no way of getting BB connect to work yet though it seems
Cool, thanks!

CustomRUU for Nike Device

Here is an RUU that i patched with guidance from Olipro and Cmonex to not (always) hard reset when it has finished flashing (useful when you want to flash just a splash screen or radio update). This should be used in conjunction with a patched SPL (e.g HardSPL) and shouldnt be used for full OS ROM updates.
Have fun
Edit: new version attached: asks about hard reset. packed properly
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i've hacked it together using winrar and a bat file (Olipro Hates me for this)
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Quite Right.
but you know how to ease the pain baby... *holds up an empty Guinness glass*
Olipro said:
Quite Right.
but you know how to ease the pain baby... *holds up an empty Guinness glass*
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when we are both back in the UK
Thanks bro Chris...Nice work.Hope u back in the UK as soon for keep up ours Niki Project
Could anyone possibly tell me how I would go about using this to flash a Kaiser Radio Rom update to my Dual?
I've got the HardSPL on my device now, just wanted to see if it would work.
I did try it using the updates on the FTP site and this RUU, but I got a device ID error, probably cause the Rom is signed for the Kaiser.
Suppose what I'm asking is could someone take the kaiser radio update and sign it so the dual will accept it?
Klutsh said:
Could anyone possibly tell me how I would go about using this to flash a Kaiser Radio Rom update to my Dual?
I've got the HardSPL on my device now, just wanted to see if it would work.
I did try it using the updates on the FTP site and this RUU, but I got a device ID error, probably cause the Rom is signed for the Kaiser.
Suppose what I'm asking is could someone take the kaiser radio update and sign it so the dual will accept it?
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I can do that for you, and if you are willing to risk you're device then fine by me but i make no guarantees at all that it will work, let alone it wont turn your device into a paper-weight.
Midget_1990 said:
I can do that for you, and if you are willing to risk you're device then fine by me but i make no guarantees at all that it will work, let alone it wont turn your device into a paper-weight.
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Some one has to try, don't they?
Thanks for great support, this tools work on HTC POLARIS?
Bye
energy59 said:
Thanks for great support, this tools work on HTC POLARIS?
Bye
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no, sorry.
Klutsh said:
Some one has to try, don't they?
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Here, this should work with my customruu if you really want to risk it:
Warning: This is untested and probably not safe, do not use. (Click me)
If there is a chance updating the Radio will activate wifi I'm willing to try it on my Dual, but would need some help with the required steps.
Midget_1990 said:
Here, this should work with my customruu if you really want to risk it:
Warning: This is untested and probably not safe, do not use.
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Thanks, as soon as I get back to my Vista machine I'll let you know, if all fails, I hope I can flash back to the Asia WWE rom.
ok, got it too, had missed the link in the text !
Any quick tips on flashing the .nbh file ?
Midget_1990 said:
Here, this should work with my customruu if you really want to risk it:
Warning: This is untested and probably not safe, do not use. (Click me)
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I have tried kaiser's radio you give,after flash,noting happen,the radio rom is 1.58.16.27,is it right?
Oops, ok, looks like you beat me to the punch.
Using the CustomRUU.exe I'm not seeing "Image Version : 1.31.73.09" to "Image Version : KAISER RADIO" - are you seeing that too ?
Had you dumped the default Orange radio first, need to look into how I can do that.
I saw that,but I didn't dump
ok, haven't found a way to do it either, so it seems the flashing lef your device in its previous state, odd !
I try again ,it's from 1.31.753.13 to kaiser radio
sorry i packaged it up wrong, ive done it properly now and flashed myself and bad news it sim-locked my phone and i now cant use it
my phone already locked sfr,so doesn't matter

Is there a way to back up existing ROM?

I'm giving up on WM6 because of the missing DUN (and a T9 bug).
I have another 3125 with the original ROM in it.
Is there a way that I can back up that ROM to my PC and install it to "upgraded" phone?
If not, is the original ROM available anywhere? I've been googling for two days and nothing. The closest thing is the AKU 3.4 from HTC which is missing DUN as well.
I've tried the WM6_BT_DUN cab file and that didn't help.
rom
do a search on this rom
RUU_STAR100_4.1.502.5_02.79.30_CWS_SHIP.exe
it is the cingular wm5 release
lewnetoons said:
do a search on this rom
RUU_STAR100_4.1.502.5_02.79.30_CWS_SHIP.exe
it is the cingular wm5 release
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Thanks lewnetoons, I saw that ROM on the wiki, but I'm under the impression this is the DUNless version of WM5. Am I wrong?
rom
I'll have to load it on my phone this weekend and let you know if it has the dun, I think it does but it has been a while since I loaded a wm5 rom, will get back to ya.
lewnetoons said:
I'll have to load it on my phone this weekend and let you know if it has the dun, I think it does but it has been a while since I loaded a wm5 rom, will get back to ya.
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That's very nice of you but please don't do that just to help me. I'd feel terrible if shyt happened while you were flashing. You know, there are hundreds of billions of lightning bolts in Florida every day....
Seriously, I'll check it myself and let you know of the results. That's very cool of you to offer.
lewnetoons said:
do a search on this rom
RUU_STAR100_4.1.502.5_02.79.30_CWS_SHIP.exe
it is the cingular wm5 release
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OK, I tried this ROM and there is no DUN just PAN.
Now how about a way to backup the whole ROM from a phone to install it in another phone?
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try this one, has the wireless modem program
ruu_star100_1.32.707.0_dopodwwe_ship.exe
lewnetoons said:
try this one, has the wireless modem program
ruu_star100_1.32.707.0_dopodwwe_ship.exe
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Thanks lewnetoons, I couldn't find this file, but I ended up switching phones with my wife and now I'm back with DUN. Pain in the butt, but a solution nonetheless.

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