What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
take the .nbh form the 1.34 cingular package and use RUU to flash the device.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
This has been covered before...
But, since you're well on your way to brick-ville, I'll buy your phone off you for, say, $100? It'll be worth less after you brick it...
Read up on the W*I*K*I and Oli's 1.40.Olipro bootloader before you do something dumb.
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
spicer said:
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
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From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
Flash to hardSPL-v6
Fash Radio to 1.16
flash OS i get out of the 1.134 package. (the os.nb file i believe it is named)
last flash the boot loader.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
LegolasTheElf said:
From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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I really appreciate the feedback. At least you're letting me know my plan wont work. Which will prevent me from trying it. But it would be kick ass if you could be more specific about what in the wiki i missed like :
-you can't flash the entire .nbh file cause it will try to replace your boot load and break it.
or
- Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL because *something useful here*
Either way I'm still thankful cause I know my plan is a **** sandwich.
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
Thank MAn!!! That kicks ass.
I need to send my phone back because the radio dies every 5 mintes.
So I want to get it as close to factory as possible.
So after I downgrade the BL i won't be doing anymore flashing to that phone.
Sometimes when I soft reset the phone is says "No GSM" even when sim is there. Soft reset it again and the radio is detected.
Very irritating.
Check out:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
F-ya! That last part about down grading the BL is the part I was having trouble pinning down.
One last question:
Can I use the cingular NBH or will it try to flash the RBL and crash because you can't down grade the RBL
the the new mrvanx page is dope. found the donwgrade guide.
Bricked using this method
pof said:
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
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Pof,
I did it this way but after flashing the radio rom I get no GSM and then I'm stuck in the Windows Mobile Screen.
I have looked in the Wiki but how can I actually unbrick?
My SPL is still 1.40 Oli. But I can't get activesync to work.
Should I flash the new radio via SD card or any other way (mtty?)
I would be very gratefull for any help,
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. Found a solution; http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
I will try to do this trick.
Thanks
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
pof said:
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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Pof,
One question, Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
Or otherwise?
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
hellejoep said:
Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
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no
hellejoep said:
How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
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Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
pof said:
Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
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Done that but then I get a Error 260.....
Any suggestions?
Or is there a way to bypass this? I have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.40 Olipro.
I now got a Connection Error 264 but the bootloader gives usb and I can reach the hermes bij MTTY.exe.....
What is going wrong?
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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It worked, cheers!!!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
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@LegolasTheElf,
This was great example on how to get people to read the wiki. I like your approach and I will try to use it in the future.
Related
I've read and reread various posts about this. I just want to make sure I have the steps down before I go forward.
What I have now:
Cingular 8525
Rom: 1.34.502.1
Radio version : 1.16
SPL: 1.06
What I would like achieve:
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
Am I missing something in the process?
Lastly, Is this the best COMBINATION of ROM, radio, and ext ROM? And how does RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2[1].06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship compared to 2.05?
Thanks for any input.
5)
anubus12 said:
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1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
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I guess there isnt really any need to do that, if you flash SPL 1.01MFG to it then theres no need to do this step.
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2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
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I would use the unlocker v3 (i suspect you meant v3 anyway)
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3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
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The ROM you choose is entirely up to you so yes this should be ok
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4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
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Yep goes without saying ;-)
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5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
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IF you are doing this then it would be the FIRST step you do
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6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
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Still....yes no problem.
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8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
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This part is beyond what i did, my process was that i upgraded to radio ROM 1.27.00.00 using the signed .exe because i originally had SPL 1.09.
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Am I missing something in the process?
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You seem to have it figured out, but dont go on what i say here, wait for it to be verified by more than just me
My process (having already got superCID and unlocked a while ago) was to upgrade to radio 1.27.00.00 before anything else, then to flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty, then flash the OS.nb file from the ROM i chose, then to flash ExtROM.nb (again from the ROM i chose). By using radio 1.27 you will have radio loader 107 which is recommended still.
Once some other people have looked over what you posted then you should go ahead (if they all give the "all clear" )
You combination of rom and radio is a good idea (the ROM and ExtROM is entirely up to you but the radio is the highest that doesnt have loader 108?)
It's even easier than that;
get my Custom RUU kit and you can skip the reflash;
take the 3.3AKU and extract the RUU_Signed.
extract the RUU signed with NBHExtract or my GUI tool (make sure it's all in the same directory) then you can create a NEW RUU with SPL 1.04, whatever radio you like (if you want a new one) and the 3.3 OS AKU.
remember: if you do it this way, you can have whatever components you want; ExtROM, OS, mix and match anything.
however... if you don't think you can manage doing this, tell me what you want and I'll happily assemble it for you
1. SuperCid and Unlock with POF VERSION 3
Website:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Install Instructions:
Easy auto-install Instructions:
Unzip unlocker and run AUTO_Unlock_v3.bat
If you don't want to install automatically, or for some reason the process doesn't work for you, here are the manual instructions:
Transfer SSPL/SSPL-HERM.exe to your phone and run it
Tri-color screen will appear
Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUt.exe
Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
Allow your phone to reboot.
Transfer HERM_Unlock_v3.exe program to your phone and run it
Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
2. Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
I think radio 1.33 or 1.34 is better then 1.27. I do not see a difference between 1.33 or 1.34 though.
You pretty much had the process but this will be easier for you.
just to point out; SuperCID and Unlock (unless using a different SIM) is unnecessary and *could* potentially invalidate your warranty.
SuperCID is pretty much redundant nowadays with the new SSPL; the only real advantage to having your device SuperCID is if there isn't a ROM for your CID with old version stuff to revert to.
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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Also, where can I get your GUI?
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Nevermind, I found your GUI. Thanks!
The only advantage of real SuperCID is being able to write to extrom once you've unlocked it.
You did a real nice v1.0 upgrade set of instructions btw They were perfect. In fact that's exactly what I did to upgrade my 8525.
However, the recent explosion of NBHtools that take advantage of Des' SSPL technique (nicely done Olipro btw )have opened up much better ways to accomplish this now.
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Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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no, you do *not* have to SuperCID at all with my RUU since it uses SSPL.
if you use the custom RUU (and you can tell, it has the XDA Dev logo on) then your device does not need to be SuperCID
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@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
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You SHOULD be ok, i downgraded to SPL 1.01MFG from version 1.09 by just flashing it using mtty.exe. I followed the instructions on the How to Flash AKU3.3 Update thread (the first post) to get my new ROM onto my device. I used the HTC AKU3.3 Test ROM and it worked just great.
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Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
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I do not think Pof unlocker put BL 108 on your device, but it doesnt matter anymore since SSPL bypass this and you can now still do radio only changes.
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@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
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No, the bootloader bypasses this now, but as someone else pointed out, if you want to change your Ext_ROM with the hack in the Wiki later, you will need to SuperCID still.
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But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
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OS/Ext ROM: 2.06
Radio 1.34 or 1.27
wpbear said:
Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
Same result, same question.
Why?
Where can I download this Rom?
Where can I download this Rom?
Download link doesn't work....
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
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Are you SuperCID with POf unlocker?
SuperCID/unlock yes. POF no.
Wiki and numberous posts indicate if the unit is SuperCID, it is SuperCID period however there is a v2 v2a and v3.
Is there more to SuperCID than just SuperCID?
Sometimes it sticks and sometimes it does not?
Can v3 be run over top of an existing SuperCID/unlocked unit without risk?
True you are either SuperCID or not, but we have seen people loose SuperCID for no apparent reason. Use mtty and check if you are still SuperCID.
Still superCID, still 1.06.
rvc said:
Still superCID, still 1.06.
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once you have superCID you can downgrade your bootloader by this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
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OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
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You dont have too SuperCID but I would. That ROM will not downgrade your BL to 1.04. You BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
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Your BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
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Are you saying it won't downgrade the BL regardless of the SuperCID status, or depending on which BL it currently has?
@pstritt: Based on the other info you provided, I'm guessing you must have SPL 1.06. You should be able to flash that ROM without going SuperCID first, as I've done so myself. My SPL remained 1.06 (why it did being contingent upon the answer to the question above).
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
LegolasTheElf said:
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
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What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
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Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
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Yes, I must agree. Looks like I got my Hermes at just the right time!
PhonePhun said:
What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
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Most of the links for radio only use Des' SSPL, so, SuperCID isn't needed. In fact, you don't even need to worry about having the appropriate BL either as Des' BL uses 1.09 to flash radios, even the 0108...
So, grab the packed RUU and run. Done.
If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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Here again, I wholeheartedly agree. Until 1.10.Oli came about the light never went on with me as to the hidden benefits of SuperCID/1.04, despite that fact I had no burning desire to flash cross-CID or "generic" ROMs (...yet!).
Now I understand that it'll give you the ability to manuever in the BL if you happen to hose your radio, etc.
LegolasTheElf said:
If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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I've been keeping up with that thread, read alot of the wiki, but still can't seem to wrap myself around all the info I've taken in. I think I'm starting to get it some now. All's I've done so far is upgrade my official ROM with AKU 3.3 so now I have bl 1.09 and I'm still not ready to flash with WM6, but in the meantime I do want to upgrade my radio from 1.33 to 1.35 but still have the option to drop back if I wanted to.
PhonePhun said:
I have bl 1.09
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
LegolasTheElf said:
Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE!
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Done deal. Took maybe a minute to load and blam... "SuperCID".
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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no, enter the thread, there's only one available; the 1.01 stuff is only available as NB files and you have to know what you're doing to flash those whereas 1.10 is available as an RUU update that you can run on your computer to flash; that's the one you want
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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Stick to running the installer (ROMUpgradeUt.exe) to flash the 1.04-based version unless you really know what you're doing. Olipro left his 1.01-based version as .nb's for this very reason.
Show ExtROM Version
Hi, I'm new of the forum, I would want to know how to show the version of the ExtROM in “Device Information” with version 0.20 of XDA Live. Thanks a lot for the answer.
Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
dlfranks said:
Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
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IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
thanks.
So I flash 1.10Olipro first (sorry where do i get this?)
Then I flash the Orange ROM from the wiki? This then puts the old radio, spl and os on?
does the orange rom force all the old stuff back on if the spl is 1.10 or something
Am i still following the same downgrade guide?
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
dlfranks said:
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
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lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
philg2000 said:
lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
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you have any tips for me having one yourself?
I want it all back to normal just incase I decide to send it back...
Upgrade was so easy, just ran a bunch of files. The downgrade one you have to extract, copy, move, compile and do all these things
If i put on 1.10oli will the phone still work with wm6?
then i do the downgrade guide and use the orange rom, how do i get it to downgrade all 3 things?
why cant it be as easy as flashing a normal phone like K800i lol
mrvanx said:
IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
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the two dfio ways you said here? there still confusing me...
how do i do the full flash? that sounds more simple...
is there a guide??????
full flash with orange rom wm5? you said downgrade to 1.10oli first. If i do this then do full flash, with 1.04 be put on by the full flash?
dlfranks said:
you have any tips for me having one yourself?
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I wish!
Well, I could give you a pointer to what to avoid doing, from "my mates" <cough> own harsh learn -the-hard-way experience. Let me have a trawl thru what "he" did recently the resulted in a Brick...
I take it your not looking to do this any time soon?
i want to do it today, just incase i decide to send it back to orange.
i just wanna know what steps to take how to get it all back to the way orange sent it to me.
i just went to start the downgrade sing the downgrade guide, but the only orange rom on the wiki is romanion or something and its orange008. so confusing!!!!!!
i dont understand
OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
Actually it is dangerous to downgrade using a full ROM without Hard spl1.40olipro which will protect you from bricking your device.
If you really want to do it then
1- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the OS.
2- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Radio.
3- Download 1.10oli which will replace 1.40oli and I think it is the only way to do it.
4- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Spl.
I don't advice you to downgrade the radio as the shipped one is terrible.
Read Hard spl thread before you start your downgrade process.
mrvanx said:
OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
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i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
dlfranks said:
i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
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Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
philg2000 said:
Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
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hello
bootloader on phone is spl-1.10.oli as this is what i was advised to put on it before i flash the rom and the rom would flash everything back...
the only things that the orange screen says is
M 05
S 04
B 06
D 2.5
the orange rom i used was...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278060&page=3
hope you can help
thanks
Can you double check the boot loader version?
Coz I thought that Rom downgraded it too.
Best place to start, then, is the thread I mentioned. There is a table of what to do under certain circumstances.
Problem I was involved with, only option was repair. But with an Oli bootloader you should be ok.
the bootloader is defo 1.10.oli
i was expecting the rom to downgrade it too
i have put a post into that thread you said. its number 979
i have phoned orange and there happy to replace it tomo morning, if i fix it tonight then i just wont accept the new one... if not ill take risk of having replacement and them not contacting me about it
anything you can suggest? really appriciate any help!
i dont see how you can flash it again with difo boot loader as none of the tools recognise it now?
thanks
I just got a HERMES, with tha radio rom
1.16.00.00
32.53.7018.01H
and my spl is 1.10.Oli
I want to upgrade the radio. Some post in this forum say I should have a 1.04 spl for a safe operation.
Is that neccessary? Because I think since 1.10.Oli is based on 1.04. But I am not sure about this. Is there anyone upgrade radio using 1.10.Oli without downgrade? And how?
thanks!
Use the latest 1.40.Oli
Use always the latest version of HardSPL and upgrade the radio in NBH format using the latest CustomRUU.
I installed the 1.38.00.10 but the battery life drops!
It's still the 1.27 the best radio rom for hermes or the last 1.40 is better? TNX
pof said:
Use always the latest version of HardSPL and upgrade the radio in NBH format using the latest CustomRUU.
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Got it!
Thank you!
And also thanks to ghz.
Done!
Have upgraded the 1.40.Oli Hard SPL from 1.10.Oli, And also upgraded Radio Rom to 1.38.00.11.
But there is still some accident happened.
When I use the RUU, which is from the wiki, and I am sure I use the RUU ONLY.
But when I run it, and choose autodetect spl, I got a wrong warning.(see the pic attached)
I choose force sspl, and follow the steps, and failed. (feel lucky no bricking happened.)
Again I did not use autodetect, choose spl-1.11/1.13/1.30/1.35/1.40, it's done in less than 15 minites.
So, maybe the second time I was doing right?
Arethusas said:
Done!
Have upgraded the 1.40.Oli Hard SPL from 1.10.Oli, And also upgraded Radio Rom to 1.38.00.11.
But there is still some accident happened.
When I use the RUU, which is from the wiki, and I am sure I use the RUU ONLY.
But when I run it, and choose autodetect spl, I got a wrong warning.(see the pic attached)
I choose force sspl, and follow the steps, and failed. (feel lucky no bricking happened.)
Again I did not use autodetect, choose spl-1.11/1.13/1.30/1.35/1.40, it's done in less than 15 minites.
So, maybe the second time I was doing right?
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are you sure your phone isn't asking for comfirmation when you use autodetect? this feature uses the RAPI of the phone and polls a memory area to check the version... if the phone is rejecting the request then you're likely to get this error.
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are you sure your phone isn't asking for comfirmation when you use autodetect? this feature uses the RAPI of the phone and polls a memory area to check the version... if the phone is rejecting the request then you're likely to get this error.
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I did not get any infom from the phone screen. Keep my eyes open widely to watch.
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
Click on the mrvanx guide at the bottom of my signature, it will tell you how to downgrade in the guides.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have been there mrvanx guide. but he don't have the solution to this problem. Just to downgrade the rom to wm5 not the SPL.
mysharif i think we have to shout again.
Help us anybody there we are stuck here.
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
You are great. I hope it will work for my Imate JasJam. Last night I was flashing my ROM with the original ROM but modified with NBH decomplie too by dutty. Before that I wrecked my device as I used the flashing of ROM using the latest sensation of loading the SSPL to RAM by des. That was my mistake that I used the original ROM. Then I removed the USB cable as it was taking too much time and because of danger to my imate I did that. Anyhow I got the NO GSM error but then I ran the Dutty's WM6v2 cooked ROM and it fixes all the things I am using it now.
The reason for my Imate JasJam degrade is my jog is not working according to its function. You know jumping from field to field. I didn't found any of that problem solution till the page of 30 in threads and posts. I am searching but if anybody knows the link. Kindly help me. So that I will save a trip to see the warranty people. (here we don't have ladies receptionists )
Sorry for the stupid question, how do I downgrade from Oli 2.10 to Oli 1.10
Il write a guide on it...too many PMs about this.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
aquasesh said:
I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
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Ofcourse...because flashing an original RUU it doesnt recognise the new bootloader (Hence your 260 error), and HArdSPL doesnt allow itself to be overwritten by a retail RUU. IF you read through the HArdSPL threads you would know this.
mrvanx said:
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
GreatGrey said:
Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Just flash SPL 1.10.oli.......................then flash a vodaphone ROM, dont use 'force SSPL', just use autodetect.
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
yea your right I just wanted to reduce your work load.
mrvanx said:
Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
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Hi mrvanx, some input to go into your guide (in case you havent come across this yet).
While flashing 1.10Oli under Vista, users may run into a problem where after loading SSPL and the phone goes into (SSPL) bootloader mode, the RUU program cannot detect the phone and returns an error.
This is due to the Vista drivers for HTC USB Sync. The driver needs to be manually "updated" just like in your Vista flashing guide. In this case, while the phone is in SSPL bootloader mode, go into device manager, replace the default HTC USB Sync driver with the USBAS one from your Vista flashing guide.
Then soft reset the phone, and try again. Worked for me.
For some reason, SSPL bootloader may appear as a different device to Windows than the hard/standard bootloader, so even if the Vista procedure has been performed before, it looks like it needs to be done also for SSPL.