Modifying head phones to get in-car DAB - HTC Monet

I'm considering removing the ear-pieces from my Lobster headphones, and fitting a 3.5mm stereo line socket like this one: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1210&criteria=3.5mm stereo socket&doy=24m5 to the end which would connect to one of these http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 FM transmitters to get DAB radio in my car.
The reason for modifying the headphones would be to retain the antenna function of the headphone lead, which would be strategically placed in the car to hopfully pick up a decent signal.
What do you think?

Get yourself a jack converter
I've been thinking about doing this too. I've got a small (Lobby size) 2.5 mm jack to normal (iPod size) 3.5 jack stereo convertor from e-Bay. I use this all the time as I don't like talking 2 sets of ear phones around with me.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...4QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Presumably you can get a wire (normal jack female to normal jack male) instead of detroying your headsets!

I wasn't sure whether an alternative cable would work as an antenna for the DAB radio channels like the original head-set does.
I have two headsets, so doesn't really matter if I butcher one of them.
Can you confirm that when using a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and alternative headphones, the DAB radio stations still work?
Thanks!

I think it is the best one.
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iPod Converter
http://www.ipodconverter.com

i was thinking about doing this, but i've heard that these fm transmitters really don't work that well?

From what I've read, just like most other electrical goods, some are good, and some are not.
According to this review http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 of the Audia X transmitter, the sound quality is "excellent", but I guess sound quality is quite a subjective thing, and what's excellent for one person's set-up may not be for another's.
The Audia X is now available in the UK from places like this http://www.intomusic.co.uk/scripts/digiana-audiax.asp

so anyone got this working?

Aleemz said:
I'm considering removing the ear-pieces from my Lobster headphones, and fitting a 3.5mm stereo line socket like this one: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=1210&criteria=3.5mm stereo socket&doy=24m5 to the end which would connect to one of these http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?option=articles&task=viewarticle&artid=421&Itemid=3 FM transmitters to get DAB radio in my car.
The reason for modifying the headphones would be to retain the antenna function of the headphone lead, which would be strategically placed in the car to hopfully pick up a decent signal.
What do you think?
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For the best result you are better off soldering rather than plug in, wherever you can.
I am going to put two phono sockets on mine, to plug into Hi Fi so that I have DAB reception on stereo.

Press-E-Dent said:
For the best result you are better off soldering rather than plug in, wherever you can.
I am going to put two phono sockets on mine, to plug into Hi Fi so that I have DAB reception on stereo.
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Yeah, thats the plan, remove the ear-pieces from the headphones and solder a 3.5 mm stereo socket on the end so I can plug in the FM transmitter.
ringp3ace said:
I've been thinking about doing this too. I've got a small (Lobby size) 2.5 mm jack to normal (iPod size) 3.5 jack stereo convertor from e-Bay. I use this all the time as I don't like talking 2 sets of ear phones around with me.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...4QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Presumably you can get a wire (normal jack female to normal jack male) instead of detroying your headsets!
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I tried this method by buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...6QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86541QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I've tried 2 types of headphones with this but the radio and tv function won't work - not enough signal.
So I guess it's back to the original plan of butchering the headphones.

Sorry didn't realise that FM trannie had a male plug on it. thought it would have a female.
Mind you, being a trannie, how can you be sure.

Got it working
I've just got around to giving it a go.
I bought my FM transmitter (Power Trip FM) from HMV, and it comes with both 3.5mm and iPod connections.
I used the stereo 2.5mm male to 3.5mm female converter I bought off eBay.
Plugged it all together and hey presto, TV with the sound coming through the car speakers.
I'm in a good DAB area, so the signal is fine - even better with playing DAB radio.
No chopping or soldering required!!!

ringp3ace, are you saying that you're successfully tuning into a DAB signal using only a 3 pole 2.5mm jack? From Aleemz’s experiments with this earlier in this thread I thought the conclusion was that this wouldn't work. You must be in an area of ridiculously good DAB signal!

kettle,
Yep.
lobster > 2.5mm to 3.5mm > PowerTrip = no problems.
I am in a good DAB area too.

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2.5mm Headset

Does anyone know if one can use any 2.5mm earplug handsfree with the XDA Mini S? The one supplied is difficult to carry lots of wires, would like to have a monaural one. Has anyone tried any? Kindly let me know. Thanks.
I have been looking for the same earphone since i bought the item on JAN06, till now I still cant find a compatible one.
That will be helpful if anyone know which is the best headphone with microphone.Not the Bluetooth one!
Thanks!
ebay Adapter eventually works
Hi there,
I was also looking for a good headset fromt he beginning on, the issue might be solved if I can install the A2DP software (will try later), but a nice wired headset would still be nice.
My favorite would be the ones SonyEricsson is shipping with the music phones.
I actually tested a 2.5mm adapter with cord and speakerpice (with clip) plus adapter for 3,5mm, which would be perfect. One was for Nokia, one for Motorola - both are NOT compatible with the HTCs!
Lately I saw a shop selling the same adapter specifically for HTC devices, so the problem might be solved.
Also I saw 2 wired 2,5mm stereo headsets from Jabra on the US website, they are for sale there but NOT in Europe. If these would work, they would for sure be of very good quality.
Anyone tested these?
Found one
I found one listed on Ebay under HTC Wizard. Its item number 9716253639, seller's name is 5starcommunication. Looks quite cool and they will mail it world wide. Will take sometime before it reaches India. But if anyone in the US orders and tries do let us know. Thanks.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9716253639&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
bloney said:
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
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Are you able to work with the MIC?
waiho said:
bloney said:
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
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Are you able to work with the MIC?
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I use it for headphones only (senheiser PX200 which sound great with the Wizard!), so not sure if they have mic connected or not. Sorry.
Get the adapter at radioshack.. there r tons n tons of them for $3.. i got one n it works like charm..
with/out mic
I wonder if the ones from Radioshack have a mic in the wire?
I have an adapter 2,5 to 3,5mm with GREAT sound quality, however without microphone in the adapter, thus I always need to unplug the adapter and take off the headphones to answer a call - sucks!
As mentioned so far i Only saw one adapter on ebay WITH a microphone in the adapter piece (and clip on the back) - but do not know how it performs...
http://cgi.ebay.de/XDA-Mini-MDA-Com...06652399QQcategoryZ123195QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
You could also try this one ...
Handsfree and Headphone Adapter
Still no earpiece...
Sigh... still no proper in ear headset (monaural) in sight... :?
2.5 mm to 3.5 mm adapters at Radio Shack
Beware of the Radio Shack adapters. They stick out and are easy to catch on a doorway as you walk through it. I did so a few weeks ago and the headphone jack no longer worked. The adapter male end bent back and damaged the phone female socket. The result was very quiet sound from the headphone jack, totally unusable for phone or music.
I sent the phone back to T-Mobile and they very kindly sent me a replacement. I bought a new Radio Shack 2.5mm male to 3.5 mm female adapter and the same day proceeded to catch it on another doorway, bending back the male plug, and damaging the phone female headphone jack. No sound again from the headphone jack. I will stay away from the headphone adapters from now on.
Phone speaker not working after using headphones - No sound
I had a similar problem (not the same). After using a 2.5 to 3.5 mm adapter my phone speakers and the mic didn't work anymore. I was about to send the device in, when I read about a solution (I think it was in XDA-Dev somewhere).
You'll have to gently move the headphone jack forward and back, twisting it a litte or even better use some compressed air blowing into the jack. It works best, if you to take out the battery and blow from the back.
My speakers work again, but the same thing happens now and then. It seems there is some switch inside the headphone/mic jack, which doesn't go back. That only happens when I use the adapter.
I realize that this is an old thread, but here is an idea for you. As far as I know, pretty much any 2.5mm headset should work. I don't use it for my phone personally, but I recently purchased a Plantronics Gamecon X20 headset for my Xbox 360 after my old one broke. Since it has a plain 2.5mm jack on the end, I thought I would plug it into my phone to see how well it worked. The answer, pretty well apparently. My wife said that it was really clear and, likewise, she sounded really clear on my end. It's going to be a little larger than the ones that have the mic hanging down inline with the wire, but on the other hand, since it's a boom mic the sound quality should be superior with less noise. I haven't tried it for listening to music so I can't vouch for the quality there, but since you are wanting a monaural headset I rather doubt that is relevant anyways. The headset was only $20 at GameStop and they had a used one for $10.
two-zero said:
I had a similar problem (not the same). After using a 2.5 to 3.5 mm adapter my phone speakers and the mic didn't work anymore. I was about to send the device in, when I read about a solution (I think it was in XDA-Dev somewhere).
You'll have to gently move the headphone jack forward and back, twisting it a litte or even better use some compressed air blowing into the jack. It works best, if you to take out the battery and blow from the back.
My speakers work again, but the same thing happens now and then. It seems there is some switch inside the headphone/mic jack, which doesn't go back. That only happens when I use the adapter.
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In your case, I would say that sounds like a bad adapter. I routinely use one in mine and don't have that problem. It's one of those nasty stick adapters though, so you have to be careful with them. I've seen some cable type adapters for not too much so you might look into one of those instead.
Found info which might help
HERE IS AN/THE ANSWER.
My WIZA200 and Sony P900 phone the mic headsets are compatable, even the answer button works. If you cant find what your looking for under the flavour WIZa or HTC etc... just look for what you need as a P900 type and you will be sorted.
I just checked the pinouts and this answers the very much asked question... what are the pinouts.... here they are....
http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-P-W/sonyericssson_headset_pinout.shtml
FOR WIZA AND SONY P900 >>>> 2.5mm 4 pole jack: PIN1 LEFT+, PIN2 RIGHT+, PIN3 MIC+, SHIELD(PIN4) GROUND. I just checked with multimeter and to get call answer pin3 mic and shield must short to signal the press of the answer button.
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Just for reference Nokia 2.5mm 4pole jack is very odd... this is how they do it.
http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_headset_pinout.shtml
on 4pole 2.5mm: 1=speaker+(positive) ### 2=mic+ ### 3=speaker -(negative) ### pin4 = mic - ###short mic+ and mic - to answer call
on 3pole 2.5mm: 1=speaker+(positive) 2=mic+ 3=shield(ground-negative) ### to answer call short speaker and shield.
See how they change their minds... first on 4 pole jacks answer call was on mic side short, then it goes on 3 pole jacks to short the speaker and ground to answer call... can these guys not make up their minds. Grrrr... totally baffling logic in this design, escept they can keep you buying specialised gear for each phone
Glad to see Sony and HTC used a more logical system and seem to stick to it. I suspect the HTC Touch HD 3.5mm is wired the same as the Wiza 2.5mm system just 3.5mm jack not 2.5mm jack.
Someone should make a 2.5mm 4pole to 3.5mm 4 pole converter to use old cherised headsets on the HTC Touch HD... know of any, anyone?
kull said:
Sigh... still no proper in ear headset (monaural) in sight... :?
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Another solution.....
I know this might sound odd but a simple solution is get your stereo headset & mic thing and cut the right earpiece lead off...
Now you may have to strip the wire a bit and wrap a piece of insulating tape to stop the wires inside touching, which will cause problems (crackling or loss of audio on remaining speaker most likely). Once the wires are safely insulated away, youll have what you are seeking, a monaural one earpiece mic heaset... saves having to buy one that your finding hard to do.
Seems a shame to sacrifice a stereo headset down to mono, but if thats your poison, go for it.
pinouts.ru is the shiz
Get out the soldering iron and make a frankenstien. I grafted a 3.5 female to my old nokia's pop port so I could hook it to my stereo (before I got a BT adapter) and to my amplified helmet speakers (that were sorced from a computer speaker set.) Before I lost the phone I was planning to add a 2.5 mono female socket for a lil clip-on mic I have. Point being, it's only 3 signals and a ground, should be able to come up with something.
ts worth having a go
Yeah having a go is definately worth it. I just utilised the pinouts.ru stuff and a bit of personal common sense knowledge of the wirings and managed to make myself a 3.5 touch hd 4 pole jack into a 3.5 3 pole jack which works ofr my aircraft. I can now fly and make calls through my pilots headset. It shows it can work. You arent dealing with any dangerous voltages... its all piddly "put it on your tongue and you wont get hurt" voltages... speakers and mics... all easy to work out. Worth having a go.

MDA and Shure E3c earphones

I just ordered an MDA and want to use my excellent Shure E3c earbuds with it, but the connectors don't match. The MDA is 2.5mm and the earbuds 3mm. I tried a Radio Shack adapter with the earbuds and one of their phones, but it would produce only one channel when fully seated. Pull it out a bit and it worked okay, but this is not acceptable. The sales guy said he's seen this before.
Has anyone found a solution short of hacking the earbuds with a 2.5mm connector? I will do this as a last resort.
I'm looking for the same info.
I've read posts that Extensys carries them. I've heard a few complaints about the radio shack ones (poor quality and stick out too much). Perhaps some phone stores carry them as well.
However, I'm getting the GlobalSat BTH-820 Bluetooth Headset. This will allow me to use my E3c earbuds as headphones and a headset. The 820 has a mic. in it and a standard 3.5mm headphone jack. Seems like you are willing to have a wire to your MDA so you might be okay with a wire to the 820.
You will have to have A2DP flashed rom though to get stereo. True you will have a wire from the 820 to your ear but you get to use your favorite ear buds instead of larger bluetooth headphones. As another benefit, you can also just use one earbud while driving (some states forbid headphones) as a hands free phone. Battery life seems decent. I'm hoping the mic quality is not too horrible.
I have tried Radio Shack adapters, and they work, in stereo. You have to press it in all the way. Of course, you cannot use it as a phone with that type of adapter, no microphone.
There are adapters you can get that have a retractable cable with an inline microphone. With these, you can use normal 2.5 headphones in the same way as with the stereo headphones that come with the Wizard--for both music and phone. When there is a phone connection, the music is muted.
I have one for example, from Seidio.
IdeaDirect said:
I'm looking for the same info.
I've read posts that Extensys carries them. I've heard a few complaints about the radio shack ones (poor quality and stick out too much). Perhaps some phone stores carry them as well.
However, I'm getting the GlobalSat BTH-820 Bluetooth Headset. This will allow me to use my E3c earbuds as headphones and a headset. The 820 has a mic. in it and a standard 3.5mm headphone jack. Seems like you are willing to have a wire to your MDA so you might be okay with a wire to the 820.
You will have to have A2DP flashed rom though to get stereo. True you will have a wire from the 820 to your ear but you get to use your favorite ear buds instead of larger bluetooth headphones. As another benefit, you can also just use one earbud while driving (some states forbid headphones) as a hands free phone. Battery life seems decent. I'm hoping the mic quality is not too horrible.
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Thanks for the reply. Someone on another thread mentioned that some adapters sold on Ebay worked, and Seidioonline carries one. I saw the same adapter elsewhere last night for $9 ($4 less), but I have yet to find the URL again.
The Globalstat system looks good, but I don't think I need to get that involved with it. I just need to plug into the MDA.
some 2.5 have 3 pins or 4, etc so if they don't line up, sound won't work out well on both ears
anyways, the treo adapter works if you are wondering
The expansys adapter lead works ok. it's specially wired as the sockets on these devices are wired so as to use the hands free kit, hence only 1 channel on a normal 3.5 to 2.5 adapter.
JwY said:
some 2.5 have 3 pins or 4, etc so if they don't line up, sound won't work out well on both ears
anyways, the treo adapter works if you are wondering
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Just today I noticed the 2.5's have 4 pins, while the Radio Shack adapter has only three, which is obviously the problem. I suppose they consist of the two audio channels, one mic channel, and ground.
I should point out that the stereo earphones that come with the phone are also quite decent. Certainly not high-end like your Shures, but most people wouldn't notice the difference. And of course they can switch between music and phone use, without having to bother with an adapter. (To use them for the phone though, one has to turn off bt, at least if a bt headset is within range. Same with any wired headset.)
Being the normal earbud type, they (if used as they are) don't fit well in my ears, easily fall out, etc. I found a good soution for that--Griffin Ear Jams. You put these on normal type earbuds, and it transforms them to the in-the-ear earbuds (like the Shures and others), which stay in better, and sound better.
I got this 2.5mm 3.5mm adapter at my local Staples for $10 and it works with my HTC Tornado (Cingular 2125). Only thing is I think it swaps left and right! I think it's maybe the same adapter as the palm one but i do get stereo sound, and I didn't have to pay shipping.
sti3 said:
I got this 2.5mm 3.5mm adapter at my local Staples for $10....
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This link points to a CompUSA set of earbuds with an adapter included, and I couldn't find such an adapter at Staples. However, I did find a number of adapaters on Ebay, including this one that apparently works like the standard headset with a mic: http://tinyurl.com/jllub
There are also some adapters available on Ebay without the mic.

Where to get 2.5mm 4-conductor jack?

I'd like to connect the headset that came with my Wizard to my laptop so I can listen to streaming audio. Beats carrying two sets of headphones around with me. I cannot find such an adapter.
Does anyone know of a source for a four-conductor 2.5mm jack (female)? If I had one, I could make my own adapter.
You can listen to streaming audio on your Wizard. Works fine via wifi on mine, but if you're connecting to a wired network you'll need the adapter.
Anyway, you may not need a 4-conductor female jack to adapt to your notebook. The adapters I'm using to go from the phone to some Shure earbuds with a conventional 3.5mm 3-conductor jack is a 3-conductor male jack going into the Wizard's 4-conductor female. It works fine, but I'm not sure why. The crux is that you may be able to use a 3-conductor male to fit into your 2.5mm 4-conductor earbuds. Keep in mind I was moving in the opposite direction, adapting 3.5mm headphones to the 2.5mm Wizard jack.
Not all work, however, as I went to Radio Shack and tried some 3.5-to-2.5mm adapters and they didn't work (one channel only). Thus, since you may not find any adapters that specify they'll work with a Wizard, you may need to use the trial-and-error technique. The problem is that there are several standards for the 4-conductor jacks, and what works with one may not work with another. I bought adapters that specified they worked with this phone. You might do an Ebay search on the seller "Manyui" and email him about what you're trying to do. He sells all types of adapters on Ebay.
You can listen to streaming audio on your Wizard. Works fine via wifi on mine, but if you're connecting to a wired network you'll need the adapter.
Anyway, you may not need a 4-conductor female jack to adapt to your notebook. The adapters I'm using to go from the phone to some Shure earbuds with a conventional 3.5mm 3-conductor jack is a 3-conductor male jack going into the Wizard's 4-conductor female. It works fine, but I'm not sure why. The crux is that you may be able to use a 3-conductor male to fit into your 2.5mm 4-conductor earbuds. Keep in mind I was moving in the opposite direction, adapting 3.5mm headphones to the 2.5mm Wizard jack.
Not all work, however, as I went to Radio Shack and tried some 3.5-to-2.5mm adapters and they didn't work (one channel only). Thus, since you may not find any adapters that specify they'll work with a Wizard, you may need to use the trial-and-error technique. The problem is that there are several standards for the 4-conductor jacks, and what works with one may not work with another. I bought adapters that specified they worked with this phone. You might do an Ebay search on the seller "Manyui" and email him about what you're trying to do. He sells all types of adapters on Ebay.
Check out this site
I found the connector you were looking for (cause I too want to do the same thing) - 2.5 mm 4 pole female jack
http://www.remtrak.com/psu/jack.htm
I also found a headset pinout (for nokia) and could you let me know if the connections are same for the xda headset jack?
http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_headset_pinout.shtml
Adio adapter
Try these guys.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Cingular_8125-559~area~accessories-audio.htm
I use the adapter with the mic in my 01 MDX. Have it going to an old Sony Walkman Cassette adapter. It works awesome for Audio through the stereo as well as hands free. No feed back and people have no issues hearing me. Can turn the audio up on the stere as loud as i can stand it.
Not the solution that we're looking for
Hey anothersmith,
I want to use the Wizard headset on the laptop, not the other way round as its easier to have the connector conected to the laptop than carry it around with the headset. Moreover, the headset that came with the Wizard is cool so I want to keep using it!
Thanks for the help!
China rocks
Hi,
Im sorry, but paying £3.04 for a plug is just a little to much for me.
You might want to consider this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Oasis-music-ada...7686197QQihZ016QQcategoryZ15040QQcmdZViewItem
Oasis music adaptor, www.shope2.com.
Im using one of this on my car, i plug this on my cingular 8125, and i have a Jack 3.5mm stereo, in which i plug my cassette adaptor and listen music in my stereo.
It also has a button for picking up calls when they arrive, and a mic built in which works really fine.
Or if you really want the plug, cut the cable, use a multimeter and you are all set.
I wonder why no one seems to get the point!
Thanks China Rocks, but you too are getting it wrong! I DO NOT want to use my xda to play music on my stereo. I want to connect my xda earphones (that have a 2.5 mm male jack) to the headphone + mic sockets of my laptop so that I can use it to listen to music or talk on the laptop.
xda earphone (headset/headphone) 2.5 mm male jack ---> Laptop audio + mic out connector 3.5 mm female jack
Will somebody get the point!
Need 2.5mm 4 conductor female socket
Reading this thread is painful. I too am looking for a 4 conductor 2.5mm female socket so that I can make an adapter to plug some Shure I4C-T's into the headphone and microphone 3.5mm sockets on my laptop. The source in the UK charges a lot of shipping to the US. Anyone know of a US supplier of 2.5mm female sockets?
Radioshack USA finally has it!
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2603246
Wrong again!
Hi xoom!
That's not what we are looking for! What your adaptor does is connect a stereo headphone with a 3.5 mm male jack to my xda that has a 2.5 mm female jack.
What I am looking for is an adaptor that will connect my "xda headset with mic" (forget about the xda, it's not in the equation here) that has a "2.5 mm female jack" to my "laptop" that has a "3.5 mm female jack" (Female to Female adaptor).
Illustrating this fact:
"XDA HEADSET with MIC" (Female 2.5 mm jack) <--> "LAPTOP AUDIO & MIC OUT" (Female 3.5 mm jacks)
Thanks for your attention!
This?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5mm-to-3-5mm-...ryZ88763QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
iclick said:
You can listen to streaming audio on your Wizard. Works fine via wifi on mine, but if you're connecting to a wired network you'll need the adapter.
Anyway, you may not need a 4-conductor female jack to adapt to your notebook. The adapters I'm using to go from the phone to some Shure earbuds with a conventional 3.5mm 3-conductor jack is a 3-conductor male jack going into the Wizard's 4-conductor female. It works fine, but I'm not sure why. The crux is that you may be able to use a 3-conductor male to fit into your 2.5mm 4-conductor earbuds. Keep in mind I was moving in the opposite direction, adapting 3.5mm headphones to the 2.5mm Wizard jack.
Not all work, however, as I went to Radio Shack and tried some 3.5-to-2.5mm adapters and they didn't work (one channel only). Thus, since you may not find any adapters that specify they'll work with a Wizard, you may need to use the trial-and-error technique. The problem is that there are several standards for the 4-conductor jacks, and what works with one may not work with another. I bought adapters that specified they worked with this phone. You might do an Ebay search on the seller "Manyui" and email him about what you're trying to do. He sells all types of adapters on Ebay.
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I used one of those Rat Shack adapters with my wizard and had no problems at all. If you're only getting one channel then it sounds like it is either not far enough in or too far in (i'm guessing the former though). That or you didn't purchase the correct adapter. The only time I had a problem with only getting one channel was when I purchased a mono adapter by mistake. I've also got some other adapters that I have purchased locally for < $5 that work fine. They're not especially pretty but I haven't had problems with any of them. I would be more than happy to purchase one for somebody and send it to them for the price of the adapter and shipping. I can even ship it overnight for around $6.
I will try to make it to the same supplier and see if they don't have the 2.5mm jack or adapter that you're looking for. I'm thinking that they do, though.
Gotcha!
Hey Poiygon,
Thats the thing! Thanks!
Cheers!
2.5mm 4 pole parts
FYI I found 2.5mm 4pole connectors and jacks at "mouser.com". see p/n's 171-7425 or 161-6425-EX which should get you to the area of related parts. I'm using thes for my Siemens SX66 to a motorcycle head set and mic. Hope this helps anyone.
sincerely,
phil
Adapter
Pocketpctechs.com has what you need

HTC Hermes Enhanced-mini-USB to 2.5mm Phone Headset Adapter?

I'm looking for an adapter for my Cingular 8525 that allows me to plug in a plain ole 2.5mm headset that I've come to love.
I've seen plenty of adapters for sale that allows one to use normal stereo earplugs with the TyTN, such as on http://www.doml.net/productdec.asp?pid=2698&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN
The pinout seems to be Pinout from Tracy and Matt's blog
Should I, perhaps, just bust open the crappy Cingular headset and do some soldering? Will the impedence for the microphone be the same? How should I combine the stereo that they have in the crappy headset to the mono that all 2.5mm jacks use?
Thanks!
-Humbert
workable, but not great
I used the same pinout to add a 3.5mm jack to the original headset end. The problem is the wires used in the cable are very difficult to solder. They are more like a metallized fabric than plain copper wire. And I am pretty good with fine wire soldering in general.
That said, I did get the jack on (though I'm not thrilled with the non-flowed solder joints) but the output level is pretty low. If I plug it into the input jack on my car stereo, the GSM phone noise (which I *hate*) overwhelms the wired signal every time I change towers.
Bill

extusb changes?

I have a 3 in 1 adaptor in my car, charging, outputting audio and inputting voice.
This setup worked fine on my Kaiser. With the HD I plug it in and get a "Headset not supported error message". The audio will also not output through the extusb, and will only come out the 3.5mm jack at the top I believe.
So what makes mine different to the below? I can only guess that the pinouts differ for some reason? Has anyone seen a pinout diagram for the HD that I can compare with the Kaiser?
Pinout will not help. HTC simply is not using the audio pins of the ExtUSB on HD.
Any (eBay) vendor you see claiming their ExtUSB-[fill in your audio device] is compatible with HD is not well informed. (or does not want to be well informed)
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cybermaus said:
Pinout will not help. HTC simply is not using the audio pins of the ExtUSB on HD.
Any (eBay) vendor you see claiming their ExtUSB-[fill in your audio device] is compatible with HD is not well informed. (or does not want to be well informed)
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It was indeed eBay, ive just realised I didnt actually supply the link when I referred to "the below", so well done on filling in the gaps!
Thats a pain in the arse. So the 3.5mm jack at the top can accept incoming voice (from the mic), as well as output audio? In which case I can't see a way of making any kind of car kit work for the HD...
Schooleydoo said:
Thats a pain in the arse. So the 3.5mm jack at the top can accept incoming voice (from the mic), as well as output audio? In which case I can't see a way of making any kind of car kit work for the HD...
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i use a normal audio jack out into my car stereo audio inputs, i get calls/audio/satnav instructions etc through the car speakers (obviously have the stereo on aux so dont get the radio at the same time
the inbuilt mic seems to be adequate for both calls and voice command
if not and you are ok at soldering tiny wires etc, then you could do what i did with my old charmer......
i took the wired headset, cracked open the mic/button press> attached a 1/4" audio socket to the headfone terminals on the PCB and a car mic (£3 if you shop around) to the mic PCB terminals. tucked all the wires away behind trim etc and had a custom built integrated hands free car kit (at the time i didnt have audio in on car stereo so adapted some el cheapo "ipod" speakers as well)

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