Reverting back to T-Mobile UK WM 5 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

I'm in the process of reverting my Hermes back to a T-Mobile UK ROM for Windows Mobile 5 using My Vanx guide but I can't exrtract the entended ROM from the ROM I have. Can anyone help me out?

I have a rar file of the contents of the t-mobile uk ext rom, if thats what you need?

Yes please, that would be great. Is that what I need to revert back to WM 5?

Well, ideally I think you can just overwrite the ext rom contents then do the rom downgrade, then hard reset and the ext rom contents will install.
I havent done it myself though.
Here's the zip, rar's not allowed apparently.

Thanks, I'll give it a try this afternoon and let you know how it goes.

That would be appreciated, just in case I have a warranty issue......

I'm trying to get it back due to a warranty issue (white appears as yellow).
Anyway, the extended ROM downloaded okay, however it didn't contain the Herm_extendedRom.nb as stated here. I've got the PrimarySplash.nb, SecondarySplash.ng and Windows.nb files from decompiling the NBH file, and now I'm stuck in a dead end.

Oh. you're doing that, I dont have the nbh file im afraid, what I was doing was leaving the extended rom alone when flashing rom updates so the original contents will work.
The main reason I didnt bother deleting the original ext rom is that the files dont actually run under wm6 and I dont really have any use for the ext rom.
Theoretically if you replace the contents of the ext rom with the contents of the zip then do the downgrade stuff wthout selecting the ext rom nbh file it might work. since I seem to recall that the ext rom contents were run by a prompter file in the windows directory from the original t-mobile OS rom after you first hard reset.
Might be worth seeing if anyone can clarify this though, as I said, I havent downgraded as yet.

Sounds like it might work, or just trying to flash without the Extended ROM, and then running the cab files seperately afterwards, but I'd like to seek clarification before doing so.

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What is the easyest way to switch to another EXT ROM ?

iMate Pocket PC Phone . Version 2.20 .
What is the easyest way to switch to another EXT ROM ?
(Sorry for asking that stupid question , but I been out of the forum for a few month , so I have no clu what to do . By the way SEARCH giving me tons of info on something else)
The easiest way is probably to get an extened rom unlocker (so you can get to the files in it), then changes the files in it that you want then hard reset should reinstall the rom. Remember that you have to change the config.txt file to make it install all the new cabs that you put in there.
The way that I have done it when making custom roms though is to get the offical latest upgrader, use winRar to extract all the files in the exe. Then I swap the extended rom with the one that I want (I make my own using er2003edit, you can find it in the wiki). Then I just run the normal upgrade.
Either way, it requires a hard reset.

Warning WM5 1.60a and Extended _rom

Just a little info -I discovered at the weekend. I have been playing with the wm5 1.60a for a while and in orfder to save space in the storage i have installed a lot of programs on the extended_rom partition. I renamed this via the registry. Don't do this !as it really screws things up. You end up with two extended rom plabels in explorer and you can not rename them back. I have had to reinstall wm5 1.60a
I dont see any problem installing program in Extended ROM. All you have to make sure is you have to rename the Extended ROM BEFORE you install anything.
If you rename it AFTER then surely you are going to be screwed. Because the program installed in the extended ROM is registered in the registry as whatever name the extended ROM when the program are installed.
Can you please be more specific with your problem. If not I think your post is "misleading".
True
In summary you are correct. I should have renamed Extended_rom before installing programs to it.
However when you reset the machine the operating system creates a new folder called extended rom and puts the renamed extended rom data and programs in it.
The original renamed folder with the memory chip icon is also present in the directory view so the data appears twice.
odd to say the least
I dont have the problem that you described.
When I install WM5 v 1.60a. I immediately rename it to "STORAGE" then install program in it. I have been using version 1.60 for more than a week now and I have countless Soft Reset even Hard Reset(Persistent memory right?) and no double folder and anything.
Just follow my advice and rename it at the beginning. I am sure you wont have the problem.
Hi,
This has most likely been covered but can someone tell me how do I rename storage areas. I have WM2005 1.60a Rom Thanks to Buzz.... and I as defalt run out of storage memory really quick and my program memory is massive, I am really sorry if this has been cover so even if you could point me to where it is discussed.
Thanks Heaps.
where can i download wm 2005
where can i get the latest wm 2005 rom?
found a link but the files is corrupted?
can anyone of you help me to have this latest rom.
seal said:
Hi,
This has most likely been covered but can someone tell me how do I rename storage areas. I have WM2005 1.60a Rom Thanks to Buzz.... and I as defalt run out of storage memory really quick and my program memory is massive, I am really sorry if this has been cover so even if you could point me to where it is discussed.
hi Schen i try to rename the ext_ROM but it say can not rename it tell me what should i do pls
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Re: where can i download wm 2005
arquizon said:
where can i get the latest wm 2005 rom?
found a link but the files is corrupted?
can anyone of you help me to have this latest rom.
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U can get it at buzzdev.net
Goodluck....n rgds
Leslie Lee
I tried download 1.6a at buzzdev.net but is" index" only ,can u help
HI, SCHEN
Can u help me how to change the ext_rom to storage step by step?
I am new user , I don't even know where can i find the ext_rom to rename and someone told that i can't rename the ext_rom.
ymchow said:
Leslie Lee
I tried download 1.6a at buzzdev.net but is" index" only ,can u help
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u go to site http://buzzdev.net
U need to register. registration is free.
u can then download.
there r 5 versions of wm2k5 for himalayas there
regards n best wishes
Thank! Leslie Lee I had download successfully

How to get different extended rom?

So is there a way I can do this on my G4 8125? I've been trying, but have not been successful.
Extended ROM basically consists of large number of CAB files. Go to the ftp and get hold of some of the ROM packages in ZIP format and unzip the EXT rom. Unlock your EXT ROM and replace everthing with the one you've downloaded. Done.
Personally, I don't use Ext Rom. Upon hard reset, I just skip the Ext Rom installation and I install my stuff manually, which I think gives more flexibility. I had my phone backup-ed into an EXE file which I can use when I hardreset next time.
I don't know how to unlock it, and I can't even stop my Cingular one from installing every time.
To stop it from installing, upon hardreset, softreset your phone just after the security option (eg when it asked you to set your PIN for the phone). It should skip installing the EXT ROM.
I'm not sure if it is read only or not, but you can try. Download and open Total Commander (for PPC), at the top section of TC, enter this
Code:
\Extended_ROM
It will show you stuff in your Ext Rom. See if you can overwrite it.
If the extended_rom is protected like in G3 >2.xx SPLs then you have no luck there. Even if you change something and it looks like it worked you'll get bad checksums on next soft-reset and all data in extended-rom will be deleted
mestrini said:
If the extended_rom is protected like in G3 >2.xx SPLs then you have no luck there. Even if you change something and it looks like it worked you'll get bad checksums on next soft-reset and all data in extended-rom will be deleted
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exactly what happened to me.
after it had bad checksums, strange characters and folders, i formatted the extemded rom using wizard service tool ver 4.2.1
now my extended rom is empty... but i have a copy of it on the PDA in a different folder and on my PC.
Is there a way to restore it?
royorlev said:
exactly what happened to me.
after it had bad checksums, strange characters and folders, i formatted the extemded rom using wizard service tool ver 4.2.1
now my extended rom is empty... but i have a copy of it on the PDA in a different folder and on my PC.
Is there a way to restore it?
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Absolutely. Simply use WST and select the "Write ROM" option. Then select "Extended ROM" and upload the backup from your PC.
Hi All,
Is there any way to build own ExtROM?
Thanks

nk.nbf

was wondering if someone could tell me where to find the nk.nbf from dcd's 2.2.x roms...want to cook up some custom boot screens, but have NO idea where to find it (or get it from). thanks
You need to extract the nbh from the installer (you can use procmon from sysinternals.exe to find out where the installer extracts it).
After that you need to decompile the NBH using various tools, in which will present you with a 00_OS.nb.
After doing that, you need to extract the splash images from other roms, or create your own, then recompile the NBH.
EDIT: wow first post since 2006, you can tell ive been a leech, glad to give back to the community lol...
I was going to post the contents of the readme file that i'm trying to understand...in order for you to see what i'm being told to do, but I really can't decipher it all that well, so i'm going to attach it. This is what I'm being told to do...
Have you looked in to this: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=16939
Yeah I read through that...
Thing is...with dcd's latest roms, the only file you get when you extract his nbh is 00_OS.nb
I have my splash.nb already made from the image i chose, but I'm not sure what to do with 00_OS.nb and splash.nb
Make an NBH from them.
You can use Dutty's NBH Tool patched for the Titan.
Since I can't find the original thread where I got it (took me forever to find in the first place) I uploaded it to fileshex.
Download here
I don't have to name my splash.nb something specific when creating the new nbh? It will just know that it's the splash?
Edit: nevermind, after opening duttys tool it's clear on how it works...thanks
Ahhh..one more question...
Is it possible to just take my splash.nb and make an nbh out of that. Then put it into the RUU and flash just the splash? Or must it be merged with the entire rom and flashed?
I have no idea.. I never did it. I want the original Verizon splash screen back instead of the static Verizon logo.
Try it and let us know if it works.
Can someone upload VZW_Startup.gif from \Windows somewhere I can download it?
I'd appreciate it very much
Confirmed.
Just took splash.nb and created an nbh just including the splash fields. I then inserted it into the RUU, flashed, and worked like a charm, no need to include any other part of the OS or anything.
Looks badass...for any help let me know...now that I know what I'm doing
P.S. It WILL hard reset the phone though upon flashing...
I put all the necessary files in a zip and I'm working on an easy step by step readme...so if anyone wants to change their bootscreen send me a pm.

HOW to get extended rom in DCD 2.3.1

1. you will need No2chem's basekit 5048.
2. you need DCD's kitchen 2.3.1
Then the fun part....
Go into No2Chem's OEM/OEMDrivers directory and copy the OEM_FLASHDRV.DLL folder.
Paste it into DCDs kitchen OEM/OEMDrivers directory.
Then go to DCDs ROM/XIP directory and edit the boot.rgu file.
Add these lines to the bottom of the boot.rgu file.
*******************************************************************
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DefaultFileSystem"="FATFS"
"Name"=""
"PartitionDriver"=""
"MountHidden"=dword:0
"Folder"="Extended_ROM"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"FormatTFAT"=dword:1
"EnableWriteBack"=dword:1
"EnableCache"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DriverPath"="Drivers\\BuiltIn\\EXT_FLASHDRV"
"LoadFlags"=dword:1
"Order"=dword:12
"Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"Profile"="EXT_FLASHDRV"
"Index"= dword:1
"Dll"="OEM_FLASHDRV.dll"
"Prefix"="DSK"
"Order"=dword:13
"IClass"=multi_sz:"{A4E7EDDA-E575-4252-9D6B-4195D48BB865}"
*******************************************************************
Then get the no2chem_nueExtROM package and put it into the DCD OEM directory.
BUILD - BURN - ENJOY!!!
P.S. Thanks No2chem and DCD for the awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.P.S. There might be an easier way but this worked for me.
Extended Frustration
Is there a purpose for having the Extended Rom? With older devices you were able to unlock the extended rom and use it like an internal memory card but afaik there is no way to unlock the extended rom, right?
gimpdog said:
Is there a purpose for having the Extended Rom? With older devices you were able to unlock the extended rom and use it like an internal memory card but afaik there is no way to unlock the extended rom, right?
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With No2Chems nueEXTROM you can unlock and write to the Titan extended ROM. Just like the 6700.
http://www.weienterprises.com/nue/
How much space is in the ExtRom?
Slightly less than 10MB
thanks dude...i've been working on a custom rom for myself and no i can include this....whooottttttt
so is this like another 10mb to put things onto, or 10mb for programs to use?
Is the extrom cleared with a hard reset? If not, it could be cool to store CABs in there to reinstall your programs after flashing. Isn't this what happens when the Sprint customization runs?
Shiva1 said:
Is the extrom cleared with a hard reset? If not, it could be cool to store CABs in there to reinstall your programs after flashing. Isn't this what happens when the Sprint customization runs?
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its like having a 10mb sd card inyour phone, it doesnt get cleared unless you run a stock rom ruu or delete files from it. nice to have in case you have to hard reset out on the road, you can get all your cabs installed without an sd card
The EXTRom is copied from ROM during a hard reset. So anything you put in there will get erased and copied over from the ROM. There should be a way to create a .nb for the ExtROM and flash your device with it to pre-populate the cab's you want in there tho.
jrebeiro said:
The EXTRom is copied from ROM during a hard reset. So anything you put in there will get erased and copied over from the ROM. There should be a way to create a .nb for the ExtROM and flash your device with it to pre-populate the cab's you want in there tho.
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hmm. thats not how it worked on the apache. a hard reset just touches the os rom, not the extended rom. otherwise it would erase the carrier info and programs on a hard reset... that would defeat the purpose of it.
hello, I followed the guide exactly and was successfully able to unlock the extrom and erase /write to it, but i now have Extrom and Extrom2 in the file explorer. they are both the same 9mb memory allocation ( i wrote files to both,, different files, and soft reset. Both drives ended up showing the 2nd file i wrote to whichever extrom, so they are the same drive. anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
fallingup said:
hmm. thats not how it worked on the apache. a hard reset just touches the os rom, not the extended rom. otherwise it would erase the carrier info and programs on a hard reset... that would defeat the purpose of it.
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Ummm... no it restores the OS and Extended Partitions. Your carrier info is not located in the Ext ROM it's located in .provxml files in the OS. Customization programs are located in Ext ROM and during a hard reset are restored.
You also basically just retyped what I explained in my post. The Carrier provided files in the Ext ROM are restored during a hard reset. But anything you have put in there by unlocking the Ext ROM and making it read/write will be gone after a hard reset.
Feel free to try it yourself.
fallingup said:
its like having a 10mb sd card inyour phone, it doesnt get cleared unless you run a stock rom ruu or delete files from it. nice to have in case you have to hard reset out on the road, you can get all your cabs installed without an sd card
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After reading some of these posts I wanted to clear a few things up but then I noticed Fallingup had it exactly correct!!!!
Only two ways to wipe your extended rom...
1. unlock it and erase it yourself OR
2. Install a custom .nbh file specifically designed to over right the extended rom.
If you uncompress an OEM rom.exe file you will probably find thee .nbh files.
1. is for the rom itself (like what DCD and No2chem put together)
2. is the Radio!
3. Contents of the extended rom.
Since we our content directly to the rom through OEM packages it is unnecessary to have cabs there for a custom rom install. Therefore, no one wastes there time building custom .nbh files to write to the extended rom. ALSO, if you have it unlocked, when you build your custom OEM packages, you can specifically target the extended rom just like you target the windows directory. NOTE: this last bit is for completeness all that is really needed is an emphatic statement... The Extended rom DOES survive a hard reset AND it survives a CUSTOM rom install as well. (unless you build a custom .nbh file to write to it)
atomclock said:
After reading some of these posts I wanted to clear a few things up but then I noticed Fallingup had it exactly correct!!!!
Only two ways to wipe your extended rom...
1. unlock it and erase it yourself OR
2. Install a custom .nbh file specifically designed to over right the extended rom.
If you uncompress an OEM rom.exe file you will probably find thee .nbh files.
1. is for the rom itself (like what DCD and No2chem put together)
2. is the Radio!
3. Contents of the extended rom.
Since we our content directly to the rom through OEM packages it is unnecessary to have cabs there for a custom rom install. Therefore, no one wastes there time building custom .nbh files to write to the extended rom. ALSO, if you have it unlocked, when you build your custom OEM packages, you can specifically target the extended rom just like you target the windows directory. NOTE: this last bit is for completeness all that is really needed is an emphatic statement... The Extended rom DOES survive a hard reset AND it survives a CUSTOM rom install as well. (unless you build a custom .nbh file to write to it)
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theres actually a third way, which is when the xip specifies to format the extended_rom partition, which would cause your extended rom to be empty on boot, even if you wrote to it during a flash.
also, you don't need to download the entire basekit, i posted the necessary files to insert to oem on my website. also, stroths has developed a cab so you don't have to install it to rom.
jarmenti said:
hello, I followed the guide exactly and was successfully able to unlock the extrom and erase /write to it, but i now have Extrom and Extrom2 in the file explorer. they are both the same 9mb memory allocation ( i wrote files to both,, different files, and soft reset. Both drives ended up showing the 2nd file i wrote to whichever extrom, so they are the same drive. anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
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I am getting the same results here. Something is duplicating.
no2chem said:
theres actually a third way, which is when the xip specifies to format the extended_rom partition, which would cause your extended rom to be empty on boot, even if you wrote to it during a flash.
also, you don't need to download the entire basekit, i posted the necessary files to insert to oem on my website. also, stroths has developed a cab so you don't have to install it to rom.
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Do we still need to modify the file in XIP. Because I tried your files (not from basekit) and I added the code from 1st post. I ended up with 2 ExtRoms. both duplicates.
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