Cannot use AUTODETECT when upgrade - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Actually I have already flashed Hard SPL v7 in my device. I have done couple times upgrade (from WM5 to WM6 and changed differenet version of Radio)
But everytime when I run the RUUWrapper.exe, I can't use "autodetect" option, the "next" button doesn't show up and "error" message comes, and ask me to use "force SSPL" instead of "autodetect".
I do click "yes" during the process, when it ask me to allow a file to run on my device.(during click on the "autodetect")
Anyway, using force SSPL method works for me, but I just wondering I fully follow all steps from mrvanx guide already, so what is the problem?
And could anyone tell me what's the difference between follow 3 options:
1. SPL 2.02/2.1 new bootloader
2. Force using SSPL
3. Autodetect
during upgrade process?
Sorry that I post this question, Coz' even I have searched this forum, but still a bit confused abt them.
Appreciated.

with that version of spl auto detect does not work....it is a feature.
check the hard spl forum to find more about it.

faria said:
with that version of spl auto detect does not work....it is a feature.
check the hard spl forum to find more about it.
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Do u mean if we have flashed hardspl v7 already ,the auto detect will not work?
And must use force SSPL?
Thanks again!

kinghung said:
Do u mean if we have flashed hardspl v7 already ,the auto detect will not work?
And must use force SSPL?
Thanks again!
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No need,
you could always choose "SPL 2.02/2.1 new bootloader" and check "Is it Hard-SPL?" when you flash a new ROM.

AikonCN said:
No need,
you could always choose "SPL 2.02/2.1 new bootloader" and check "Is it Hard-SPL?" when you flash a new ROM.
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Thanks, by the way, what is SSPL?
and what if I choose Force SSPL?
Since I have done couple times of upgrades, everytime I choose force using SSPL and this method works.
So I would like to clarify what the difference between them!

kinghung said:
Thanks, by the way, what is SSPL?
and what if I choose Force SSPL?
Since I have done couple times of upgrades, everytime I choose force using SSPL and this method works.
So I would like to clarify what the difference between them!
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You have to use SSPL When you update a new version Hard-SPL,
Because Hard-SPL can only update by SSPL,
If your new ROM include a SPL but you don't know and you check "Force SSPL" and then your Hard-SPL will be covered with the SPL which include in your new ROM,
It's dangerous for your Hermes to lose Hard-SPL,
That's all.

AikonCN said:
You have to use SSPL When you update a new version Hard-SPL,
Because Hard-SPL can only update by SSPL,
If your new ROM include a SPL but you don't know and you check "Force SSPL" and then your Hard-SPL will be covered with the SPL which include in your new ROM,
It's dangerous for your Hermes to lose Hard-SPL,
That's all.
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Thanks very much Aikon!
After your explaination and reading lots of articles from web.
I have figured out couple of points, I hope it helps people who are also confused or do not understand what they are doing when flashing radio or ROM.
1. HardSPL v7 could be overwrite when Force using SSPL only. So Force using SSPL only use when u want to flash SPL or new version of HardSPL released. Otherwise, do not use this option
2. Although force using SSPL overwrites IPL/SPL, we do not have IPL/SPL in radio ROM or OS (because we have repackaged the OS). That's why nothing happened even using force using SSPL option
3. Therefore basically after we have HardSPL v7 in our device, we should use "SPL2.02/2.1 new bootloader" and check the "is it hard spl " box everytime when we use RUUWrapper to flash radio or OS ROM
4. That's why using SSPL_HERM.exe method could overwrite SPL, and those people needed to reflash again HardSPL after OS upgrade.
Pls correct me if anything I mislead or wrong.
BTW, I still don't understand why I can't use "Autodetect" option. Since I follow all step from mrvanx guide already.
What I thought is after we have hardspl and using the latest RUUWrapper.exe , everything should be exactly same as what mrvanx guide tells. We should be able to use AUTODETECT instead of "using force SSPL"or "SPL2.02/2.1"
Pls help if anyone knows why!?

Hi kinghung,
I had the same problem and I found out, that you can use "Auto-Detect" when you click first on "is it hard spl". After you activated "is it hard spl" and a click on "Autodetect" you get the right setting marked.
Don't know why it's so, but it works!?
Greets
komodor

kinghung said:
Thanks very much Aikon!
After your explaination and reading lots of articles from web.
I have figured out couple of points, I hope it helps people who are also confused or do not understand what they are doing when flashing radio or ROM.
1. HardSPL v7 could be overwrite when Force using SSPL only. So Force using SSPL only use when u want to flash SPL or new version of HardSPL released. Otherwise, do not use this option
2. Although force using SSPL overwrites IPL/SPL, we do not have IPL/SPL in radio ROM or OS (because we have repackaged the OS). That's why nothing happened even using force using SSPL option
3. Therefore basically after we have HardSPL v7 in our device, we should use "SPL2.02/2.1 new bootloader" and check the "is it hard spl " box everytime when we use RUUWrapper to flash radio or OS ROM
4. That's why using SSPL_HERM.exe method could overwrite SPL, and those people needed to reflash again HardSPL after OS upgrade.
Pls correct me if anything I mislead or wrong.
BTW, I still don't understand why I can't use "Autodetect" option. Since I follow all step from mrvanx guide already.
What I thought is after we have hardspl and using the latest RUUWrapper.exe , everything should be exactly same as what mrvanx guide tells. We should be able to use AUTODETECT instead of "using force SSPL"or "SPL2.02/2.1"
Pls help if anyone knows why!?
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Yes, your viewpoints from 1 to 4 are right,
I don't know the reason why I can't use "Auto Detect",
I always choose manually.

I have lately found the same issue.
But I checked my device and oli 2.10 was there. So I just went ahead and forced the flash. and all was OK.
Ticking off hard SPL and oli 2.10 also worked fine.
The main thing to do is to ensure that you have oli 2.10 on you device before flashing any RUU file.

komodor86 said:
Hi kinghung,
I had the same problem and I found out, that you can use "Auto-Detect" when you click first on "is it hard spl". After you activated "is it hard spl" and a click on "Autodetect" you get the right setting marked.
Don't know why it's so, but it works!?
Greets
komodor
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First of all, thanks a lot!
I have just tried your method, but it still doesn't work,the "error" message still comes out and asks me to use force using SSPL.

AikonCN said:
Yes, your viewpoints from 1 to 4 are right,
I don't know the reason why I can't use "Auto Detect",
I always choose manually.
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Hi Aikom, appreciated!
I still don't understand why the"AUTODECT" doesn't work for me and some other Hermes users.

basilrsa said:
I have lately found the same issue.
But I checked my device and oli 2.10 was there. So I just went ahead and forced the flash. and all was OK.
Ticking off hard SPL and oli 2.10 also worked fine.
The main thing to do is to ensure that you have oli 2.10 on you device before flashing any RUU file.
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From my understanding, your points are partial correct.
If there is no IPL/SPL inside the ROM u are going to flash, either using force SSPL or pick 2.02/2.1 SPL , both method work and safe!
But if unfortunately someone flashing a ROM with IPL/SPL inside, the current hardSPL would be overwrote if u using force SSPL!!
It's dangerous!

kinghung said:
From my understanding, your points are partial correct.
If there is no IPL/SPL inside the ROM u are going to flash, either using force SSPL or pick 2.02/2.1 SPL , both method work and safe!
But if unfortunately someone flashing a ROM with IPL/SPL inside, the current hardSPL would be overwrote if u using force SSPL!!
It's dangerous!
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Thanks for your explanation!! Right now I have a much clear concept about flashing!!
And I just notice why the bootloader has changed after I flashed my hermes from WM5 to WM6? Thanks again!!^^

This thread helped me a lot
I was experiencing the same error but thanks to your explanation i could install the rom!!!! Thanks a lot.

kinghung said:
From my understanding, your points are partial correct.
If there is no IPL/SPL inside the ROM u are going to flash, either using force SSPL or pick 2.02/2.1 SPL , both method work and safe!
But if unfortunately someone flashing a ROM with IPL/SPL inside, the current hardSPL would be overwrote if u using force SSPL!!
It's dangerous!
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That's make much more sense to me.
I had the same problem, chose the "Force" option, and now when I check the bootloader option it says SPL-2.Olipr, meaning it hasn't changed, even though I chose the "Force" option.

Wrong tread - moved

AUTODETECT doesn't work for me too. I have HERM100.
By the way - if I choose "SPL-2.02/2.10 New Bootloader" and tick "Is it Hard-SPL?", after clicking "Next", there is a red text saying that this flasher is intended solely for SPL 1.11 and I must have 1.11 Hard-SPL installed. But I have 2.10... should I ignore this? ;/

mrbabcia said:
AUTODETECT doesn't work for me too. I have HERM100.
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The same with my HERM300.

If you have correctly checked the options for Bootloader version, then yes, ignore the warning.

Related

What version SPL neede to do Radio Rom upgrade?

I just got a HERMES, with tha radio rom
1.16.00.00
32.53.7018.01H
and my spl is 1.10.Oli
I want to upgrade the radio. Some post in this forum say I should have a 1.04 spl for a safe operation.
Is that neccessary? Because I think since 1.10.Oli is based on 1.04. But I am not sure about this. Is there anyone upgrade radio using 1.10.Oli without downgrade? And how?
thanks!
Use the latest 1.40.Oli
Use always the latest version of HardSPL and upgrade the radio in NBH format using the latest CustomRUU.
I installed the 1.38.00.10 but the battery life drops!
It's still the 1.27 the best radio rom for hermes or the last 1.40 is better? TNX
pof said:
Use always the latest version of HardSPL and upgrade the radio in NBH format using the latest CustomRUU.
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Got it!
Thank you!
And also thanks to ghz.
Done!
Have upgraded the 1.40.Oli Hard SPL from 1.10.Oli, And also upgraded Radio Rom to 1.38.00.11.
But there is still some accident happened.
When I use the RUU, which is from the wiki, and I am sure I use the RUU ONLY.
But when I run it, and choose autodetect spl, I got a wrong warning.(see the pic attached)
I choose force sspl, and follow the steps, and failed. (feel lucky no bricking happened.)
Again I did not use autodetect, choose spl-1.11/1.13/1.30/1.35/1.40, it's done in less than 15 minites.
So, maybe the second time I was doing right?
Arethusas said:
Done!
Have upgraded the 1.40.Oli Hard SPL from 1.10.Oli, And also upgraded Radio Rom to 1.38.00.11.
But there is still some accident happened.
When I use the RUU, which is from the wiki, and I am sure I use the RUU ONLY.
But when I run it, and choose autodetect spl, I got a wrong warning.(see the pic attached)
I choose force sspl, and follow the steps, and failed. (feel lucky no bricking happened.)
Again I did not use autodetect, choose spl-1.11/1.13/1.30/1.35/1.40, it's done in less than 15 minites.
So, maybe the second time I was doing right?
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are you sure your phone isn't asking for comfirmation when you use autodetect? this feature uses the RAPI of the phone and polls a memory area to check the version... if the phone is rejecting the request then you're likely to get this error.
Olipro said:
are you sure your phone isn't asking for comfirmation when you use autodetect? this feature uses the RAPI of the phone and polls a memory area to check the version... if the phone is rejecting the request then you're likely to get this error.
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I did not get any infom from the phone screen. Keep my eyes open widely to watch.

error with hardsplv7

I have got an custel rom and hardspl 2.10 but when i select autodect it gives me an error and tells me to use SSPL option.
Anyone know y??
maybe you have a older RUU utility. what rea you trying to flash? download the latest RUU, put it in the same folder as the .nbh you wanna flash, and you shouldnt have to check autodetect, there will be a box for you to check 2.10.
Yes there is a box for 2.10 im using latest ruu.
But in mrvanx guide it was said u should use autodetect that is y im concerned. Anyways i have flashed the OS only with selecting SSPL option.
from my undserstanding hardSPL forces sspl so you dont have to click it. but if that works for you then great.
peezy said:
from my undserstanding hardSPL forces sspl
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That is just in the custom RUUWrapper which is shipped with HardSPL.
I believe there is far more functionality in HardSPL (including preventing flashing SPL, which is why the above)
You'll probably find your phone is asking you to confirm an action when it tries to check; it uses the RAPI interface which is a privileged function, when this happens then you'll find your phone hasn't been set to auto-allow RAPI.
Thanks Olipro,
So should i select manually "2.10" and "Is it hard spl" to flash?
Or there is a registry setting to allow "auto rapi",
I have a cab to enable rapi which mun used in his shelltool for wizard, if this helps??

WM 6.1 on Hermes?

Hi guys.
I was wondering if there is a way to get WM 6.1 for Hermes.
I would also pay for it.
Thx
Meow90 said:
Hi guys.
I was wondering if there is a way to get WM 6.1 for Hermes.
I would also pay for it.
Thx
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It's actually simply possible Mate. I had my Hermes guarantee left, and that's time to do lot of things.
I'm a newbie either, all You need is read as much as info about flashing, how to do it safely. I state simple steps :
- Backup Your Data
- Do HardSPL (to get flashing safely)
- Starting flashing WM6.1 ROM.
There are lots of ROM, some compulated here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408984
Thx!
Data Backup is done.
My SPL is "SPL-2.03".
When I started "CRCs Release 11.2 - Stable", it asks, which SPL I use.
Can I choose "SPL-2.02/2.10/2.30 New Bootloader"??
if you have installed hard spl then it should be 1.40 olipro, if you havent installed hardspl i would do it now
Alright.
I have installed Olipro now.
Have I got to choose SPL-1.04? (Thats what Autodetect says)
Or just force using safe SSPL?
Meow90 said:
Alright.
I have installed Olipro now.
Have I got to choose SPL-1.04? (Thats what Autodetect says)
Or just force using safe SSPL?
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MAKE SURE you have installed HardSPL dude.
Once you have use autodetect and it will choose the correct SPL, otherwise choose "SPL 2.02/2.10/2.30" and tick the "Is it HardSPL?" box.
Sorry, i forgot to say that I made sure.
I pushed Power+Cam+Reset and then i got that screen with "SPL-1.40 Olipro" or whatever. I am sure it's Olipro 1.40.
I ticked the "Is it Hard SPL Box" and it always chooses SPL 1.04.
When i try to flash with this setting, i get a connection error, even when i am synced with activesync.
After i got the Connection error, active sync also gets an error. (It's not connected)
Edit: Btw. I used this one: 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04 and unlocked - use for rtask commands.
I tried again...
and guess what?
It worked! Thanks guys
Go to the top of this forum, there is a thread called "Hard-SPL, Or How to Not Brick Your PDA Ever Again And Fix Bad Blocks". Install Hard SPL ver 7. When you go to the boot loader it should say SPL : 2.10 olipro.
Anything else you have a good chance of bricking your Hermes and NOT being able to recover.
Ver 9 is for developers and isn't needed by the layperson. It can cause confusion s it tends to throw up an error message after flashing a rom using the pc.
Please remember though, Hard SPL ISN'T A GUARANTEE, ITS A SAFETY NET.
Cheers...
Can't flash the windows mobile 6.1
For some reason everytime I try to flash my hermes with the wm6.1 rom it always says, "the update utility cannot open the requested file" I've run the hard spl flash and it says it was successful. But I still get this error message.

[UPG] CustomRUU for Raphael

Hi all, I've created HTC Raphael CustomRUU patched to perform a 'task 32' instead of a 'task 28' after flashing an .nbh, so it will not format your device if you just flash a radio or a splash screen.
How to: Drop the .nbh file of your choice in the same folder as CustomRUU and start flashing.
Everyone NOTE:
AVG and other antivirus's usually detect a virus in CustomRUU.exe, it's false error. Disable your antivirus while downloading and flashing.
If you have problem with your antivirus try the Raphael Wrapper attached, Thanks to cmonex for this
Have fun.
As part of an attempt by the moderation team to keep things organised this thread has been unstickied, members are encouraged to add the info the wiki pages.
Please refer to the "Raphael Goes Wiki" thread for more details.
udK said:
Hi all, I've created HTC Raphael CustomRUU patched to perform a 'task 32' instead of a 'task 28' after flashing an .nbh, so it will not format your device if you just flash a radio or a splash screen.
How to: Drop the .nbh file of your choice in the same folder as CustomRUU and start flashing.
Everyone NOTE:
AVG and other anitvirus's usually detect a virus in CustomRUU.exe, it's false error. Disable your antivirus while downloading and flashing.
Have fun.
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yes, all of you, turn off your virus scanners and download this stuff........
jonkie said:
yes, all of you, turn off your virus scanners and download this stuff........
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Thats a pretty impressive first post here....
Seeing the man is a cook for multiple devices, he just might know what he is talking about.
as my wife would say..
If u de wanna jab, u de be sure of proof.
RaphaelWrapper
here's another ruu that doesn't pop up antivirus warning.
I heard some people were having trouble running the first customruu. maybe this helps. (still requires .net framework of course.)
presented by raphael elite team
enjoy!
Thanks cmonex, first post updated.
Yep works fine, might be worth updating the kitchens to reflect this change.
Yup Cmonex Ruu Wrapper works great.
Since Some Guy Called l3v5y nearly bricked my Pro with a clean Rom
(stuck on Preparing your device.......... screen)
Had to Go into Bootloader mannually first, but that also works.
Let's hope the Pro version Flashes. (have to be carefull, l3v5y never sleeps, he might find out i've been bad mouthing his work and ban me)
PS: Even Flash Update Screen looks great on VGA screen, nice crisp and sharp gradient.
Hail to the wrapper
Works perfectly!!
You guys amaze me every time with your skills.
Works Great!
So to get it clear:
The wrapper also does not format the device when only flashing a splash or radio?
What is the difference between the wrapper and the custumRUU anyway?
merten3000 said:
So to get it clear:
The wrapper also does not format the device when only flashing a splash or radio?
What is the difference between the wrapper and the custumRUU anyway?
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CustomRUU and wrapper do the same job. But wrapper is modified for some antivirus giving false positives... So you can use both...
Cheers
udK said:
Hi all, I've created HTC Raphael CustomRUU patched to perform a 'task 32' instead of a 'task 28' after flashing an .nbh, so it will not format your device if you just flash a radio or a splash screen.
How to: Drop the .nbh file of your choice in the same folder as CustomRUU and start flashing.
Everyone NOTE:
AVG and other anitvirus's usually detect a virus in CustomRUU.exe, it's false error. Disable your antivirus while downloading and flashing.
If you have problem with your antivirus try the Raphael Wrapper attached, Thanks to cmonex for this
Have fun.
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Sorry but i'm learning, this means that i don't need to install HardSPL?
If i perform a hard reset, i recover the orginal factory radio?
thanks
MenosOcho said:
Sorry but i'm learning, this means that i don't need to install HardSPL?
If i perform a hard reset, i recover the orginal factory radio?
thanks
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Forget it, i found the answer (i need HardSPL) after write this.
thanks.
MenosOcho said:
Forget it, i found the answer (i need HardSPL) after write this.
thanks.
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So, please can you explain it to me
I am so confused with all these terms (hard SPL, soft SPL, RUU).
- Do I still need to run the HardSPL, to change ONLY the Radio - or Raphael wrapper.exe is enough ?
- If I need HardSPL, will my device be formatted and lose my data ?
- How I upgrade my Radio ? I have downloaded the upgrade but except from an exe file there is another with nbh extension. How I use this file ?
Can anyone help ?
Does the CustomRUU bypass the CID check so I can flash *ANY* ROM with this tool without HardSPL?
The latest AT&T ROM has a higher SPL that the latest HardSPL and we all know what issues we had with the Kaiser using old or non matching SPL's.
Thanks!
-Mc
error
When I try to use it, the progress bar holds at 0%, and a few minutes later i get an error. does anybody else had this problem and what is the solution,
Thnx
McHale said:
Does the CustomRUU bypass the CID check so I can flash *ANY* ROM with this tool without HardSPL?
The latest AT&T ROM has a higher SPL that the latest HardSPL and we all know what issues we had with the Kaiser using old or non matching SPL's.
Thanks!
-Mc
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I've got the same problem: my rom is 1.90.772.3... but my radio is 1.02.25.23 and i want .28!!!
thanks!!!
sarantos said:
So, please can you explain it to me
I am so confused with all these terms (hard SPL, soft SPL, RUU).
- Do I still need to run the HardSPL, to change ONLY the Radio - or Raphael wrapper.exe is enough ?
- If I need HardSPL, will my device be formatted and lose my data ?
- How I upgrade my Radio ? I have downloaded the upgrade but except from an exe file there is another with nbh extension. How I use this file ?
Can anyone help ?
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I'm very confused as well. I would love to do a radio update but I really don't want to do a hard reset.
I know I have to use this customRUU and I already have downloaded the radio file.
Can I start upgrading right away or do I really need to use HardSPL and loose all my data?
You need Hard SPL to use this Custom RUU. Unless you are going to flash a ROM by your carrier. Cooked ROMs, radio's etc require HardSPL.
Flashing a ROM OS will override all your data (well duh )
Flashing a radio, SPL or Splash should not override your data.
Custom RUU does not bypass the CID checks.
Ta
Dave

Touch dual and WM 6.5

I am reading forums for few days now, i would like to install WM 6.5 on my touch dual, but i just dont get what i need to do. Is there some step by step tutorial.
Also, i am interested in android too, i tried one of them but it was poor. Is there some android for htc that actually works, and can be used normally?
Thank you
First off all, welcome.
If you just want to know how to start just read the first two stickies of this thread.
Regards,
Yes i read stickies but i dont get what i need to install, that is in what order, and which ROMs i need to use.
marijan_e said:
Yes i read stickies but i dont get what i need to install, that is in what order, and which ROMs i need to use.
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Hmm, okay first we need to know what type off phone you have, you can find that under your battery, by me it's displayed Niki100.
Second one, which is important, is your device simlocked.
Regards,
I have it too Nikki100
No it is not sim locked
Okay, sorry for the late reply, but I was at my work, and also tonight I have to leave, if you don not have a simlock the only thing you have to do can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631493 just read carefull and if you still don't know how it works just let me know and I will help you.
This is how i did it:
1. I just started at step 4, and copied the sspl 1.16 to my phone.
2. Turned the phone off.
3. Removed sim and sd-card
4. Turn on the phone and launched sspl 1.16
5. Connect on computer and usb appears.
6. Running hardspl 1.22
Thats all, I'm not sure if it is the right way but it worked for me.
Important:
Use at your own risk! I'm not responsible for any damage to your device.
Regards,
Ok so i run sspl 1.6 and i got the phone in bootloader mode, connected USB and nothing happens. What i should now try to put wm 6.5 ROM?
marijan_e said:
Ok so i run sspl 1.6 and i got the phone in bootloader mode, connected USB and nothing happens. What i should now try to put wm 6.5 ROM?
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No, before you flash a rom, you have to flash Hardspl 1.22
Greetz,
You did not mentioned hardspl above?!?!
and what about that radio ROM do i have to flash that too.
I dont get you, so i run sspl, and i get bootloader, what now, do i flash hardspl while in that bootloader or?
marijan_e said:
You did not mentioned hardspl above?!?!
and what about that radio ROM do i have to flash that too.
I dont get you, so i run sspl, and i get bootloader, what now, do i flash hardspl while in that bootloader or?
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Hi again, you only need to flash Hardspl 1.22 or 1.15 but they say that 1.22 is better, and yes you can do that in bootloader.
And why you have to do this is, because if you only use sspl you have to do that everytime you want to flash a rom with hardspl you only have to do this once and you can flash all the rom's (for the Niki) what you want, so this means if you can succesfull flash the hardspl 1.22 you are done with this and you can search for rom's you like
Hopefully I'll gave you enough information but if you want to ask something you can always ask, there is just a small thing with the radio but I explain that after you did the hardspl.
Greetz,

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