Pioneer DEH-P9800BT CD Receiver with Bluetooth - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Accessories

I have the thing basically working. I am also getting a Vox 710s to try as well.
My primary concern at this point is auto connect. I am a consultant and get in an out of the car a lot. So it is pointless if I have to click the stereo 6 times each time I get in. I need the thing to just work. I may return the deck if I can't get it too work.
So I need to find out where the failure is. Then I can pursue it with the manufacturer. Why can't this stuff just work?
So if I find a bluetooth headset that does auto connect to the phone do you think that is enough I can't got to pioneer and say the problem is your deck?
If the head set doesn't auto connect which I find hard to believe then I can work with jetware or cingular to see what is up. I am guessing it is the deck.
Thoughts

opps
phone is a cingular 8125 up to date roms running the latest Jetware.

another poster on crutchfeild says tmobile dash does autoconnect
does this narrow down the cause?

I spent over a month working with Pioneer and Jetware with an AVIC Z2 GPS unit with Pioneer's ND-BT1 adapter. In the end, I had to pull the Z2 and installed a Kenwood. Pioneer tech Support finally admitted that they suffer problems with nearly all PDA type phones, especially when they 'sleep'. Seems the connection is dropped nearly as fast as it is made and the devices won't stay connected. Mine dropped EVERY call when the backlight went out after 60 seconds of non-pda use. If i set time timer up to 5 minutes, it dropped the call when the PDA went to sleep. Leaving the PDA on all of the time of course drained the battery.
My wife now has the HTC Touch in her car with the AVIC Z2 and the ND-BT1, however, the problem isn't there. Pioneer has come out with a 'Service' upgrade program for the Z2 and the Touch uses a newer WM6 version. The two seem to be compatible.

thanks for the insight
Having just read the mk6000 review I don't feel so bad. I was wondering how well as system between your speakers and you deck would work.
That said I ordered an unlocked 710 (vox) to test out with wm6 and bt 2.
I am hoping this will work. Do you think I will still need Jetware?

xophere said:
Having just read the mk6000 review I don't feel so bad. I was wondering how well as system between your speakers and you deck would work.
That said I ordered an unlocked 710 (vox) to test out with wm6 and bt 2.
I am hoping this will work. Do you think I will still need Jetware?
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Try it first without Jetware. It is now with at 30 day free trial and limited features but good enough to test once you get your new unit. If you find out that you need it, then register it.

I have had a Pioneer DEH-P9800BT for many months now, and I am getting sick of having to click 6 times to connect the phone. You would think that the stupid thing could perform the same thing when you turned on the car/stereo. I wish I could get a firmware update or something to fix it.

Replace your Pioneer with the one of the Sonys (MEX-5000BT if you need preouts, MEX-2500BT if you don't). I've been using the 5000 since January -- once I did the initial pairing, it connects every time both in handsfree & A2DP.

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Pairing problem with Motorola H700

Hi All,
I've been combing the forums for a number of days to see if I could find some help to a bluetooth pairing prob, but have yet to find what I'm looking for.
I have a new t-mobile mda that has been flashed to the latest 2.24 ROM (yes, i know it's a beta rom). I also have a Motorola H700. I can get the phone to see my laptop just fine, but it won't even detect the headset. I've looked around motorola's website, but it's less than helpful. I'm really hoping my new headset isn't DOA. It charges fine, but never enters pairing mode. I don't have another bluetooth enabled phone to test it with. I'm really hoping someone can offer some suggestions.
Thank so much!
im using an h700 i got from ebay for 35 bucks on my tmobile mda (2.17 qtek rom) and it pairs just fine. does your led stay in constant purple? that means it should be pairing. i dont see any reason why the phone can't detect the headset. are you sure the headset is entering pairing mode correctly? remember that after awhile itll exit pairing mode on its own. just a thought.
No, i have yet to get the thing into pairing mode (as i mentioned earlier ). Is there some way to force the headset to do so? Thanks!
Problem fixed. A little reg tweaking and the proper application of buttons & viola!, headest works fine.
care to share how u did that? cuz i have the same headset and i cant get it working either!

lock ups and BT problem

Hi all,
I have bought 3 x HTC S740 for my company. They are SIM free versions running on Vodafone UK. CE OS 5.2.20279 (Build 20279.1.3.4) - Radio 12.23.30.06H_0.24.30.24 - Ril Version 2.002.
The phones keep locking up (at least once a day). Nothing happens if I press any buttons. If I wait 3/4 minutes the phone will come back to life (and it'll actually start doing the commands I send with the previous button presses). It looks like it's a CPU problem.
Also, the bluetooth keeps disconnecting in the car. It shows as turned off on the phone and you have to restart the phone to be able turn BT back on.
Of course, HTC is no help. Is it worth trying a different ROM?
Thanks
gezzaroy said:
Is it worth trying a different ROM?
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I would say yes. I have non of the problems you mentioned, so they could be Vodafone ROM's bugs.
It's not running the Vodafone ROM; it's running the HTC one (SIM free). I was actually thinking of trying the Vodafone ROM. What ROM are you running?
Oh, I misread your post. Mine runs:
Rom version: 1.14.401.1
Rom date: 10/06/08
Radio version: 0.24.30.24
No significant problems with it so far.
My ROM version is 1.14.405.1 dated 27/10/08. Any chance you could extract your ROM and post it?
See my post about the bluetooth. Yes I tend to notice it when I have been using it in the car (you don't drive a BMW do you) but not always.
I am not getting any lock ups though.
Yes I saw your post. I drive a push bike The guy who uses the phone drives a Saab 93. His HTC S730 worked perfectly in that car. HTC said we should have checked the phone was compatible. Duck & dive!!
gezzaroy said:
Yes I saw your post. I drive a push bike The guy who uses the phone drives a Saab 93. His HTC S730 worked perfectly in that car. HTC said we should have checked the phone was compatible. Duck & dive!!
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I am not sure this is a car kit related issue because my phone does work fine with the car it's just that every now any then, I notice that the bluetooth has switched off.
it does not do this whilst it is connected to the car. It's just that I come to make a call and realize that the phone has not connected because the BT has turned itself off at sometime before I got into the car.
I've not been able to recreate the problem. The Saab belongs to a Sales guy, so he's always running around and I can't keep up on my push bike but what he says is that Bluetooth switches off whilst connected in the car and then he can't turn it back on unless he restarts the phone.
Same Proble
I hve the same Problem with a Opel Astra. And thers no help from HTC.
I recently installed the Bluetooth update from the HTC website.
Since then the disconnecting from the car problem seems to have got an awful lot better. It now only seems to happen if I have previously disconnected a BT headset and then walked out the door and got straight in the car.
anyone solve it?
I have soled it using this...
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=163&cat=0&dl_id=609
To be honest I think that it worked for me...Im not 100% shure

Parrot MK6000 problems

Anyone else with a Parrot MK6000 having problems making and receiving a call while connected to the kit? Mine works great on stereo A2DP but when trying to make a call the voice cuts out after a second or two and then a few seconds later disconnects, probably because the person on the other end can't hear me and hangs up. At first I thought it was the phone and got a replacement but no joy. A similar thing happened with my Omnia last year and I got rid of the phone because of it thinking the phone was at fault but now I don't think so. Kit works fine with other phones but not Windows Mobile even though the phones I am having problems with are listed as completely compatible and tested on Parrots website. My software version on the kit is 1.03a which is their newest. Any ideas? Still waiting on a reply two days later from Parrot. Seems kind of screwy to have to worry whether and accessory like this will even work with your expensive phone. I thought that was why they came up with standards. These things aren't cheap or easy to install.
Try a Firmware update to the Parrot MK6000. Also ask them a way of configuring your HTC to work correctly. If they say that is full compatible, that's because they tested, and if they tested they know the definitions inputed in the phone.
I've a MK6100 and it works fine, not exactly the same... but yeah try the firmware upgrade
None to try
I've already got the most recent firmware. Parrots testing is crap. When I first got the thing within a day, I knew that I needed a firmware update on their upgradeable "ahem" unit. Software upgradeable was even plastered all over the box. The unit that came in that box had the 1.0 software and guess what. Faulty testing. They had to replace it with a unit that had the current software because they made a mistake in testing and updating would not work on the 1.0 units. That was over a year ago and there is still no firmware updates. They knew they had a problem with WinMo phones even then and now they are saying compatible? Onl good thing that happened then was I was in Detroit and drove my big truck right up to the door of their headquarters. One of their lab guys was forced to reinstall the unit that had been installed just two days earlier. You would think they would never want to have to do something like that again. So anyways, I have a call and and email into them to let them know I have a problem and no response. Hopefully someone else who thinking of buying one of these units see's this post and takes the warning stay away, at least if you have a smart phone because these people aren't going to support you. (At least not unless you embarrass them by pullling up to their front door in a 75 foot truck )
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(...)(At least not unless you embarrass them by pullling up to their front door in a 75 foot truck )
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Yeap, that's also a good way of making them do what they promise... And to claim warranties...
Stay away from Parrot bluetooth
I have two parrot handsfree units, CK3200LS in my car, CK3100 in my wifes.
They have caused nothing but trouble for my WM phones (Tilt and now TP2)
I can't get the TP2 to pair with the CK3100. I'm waiting for parrot to respond to my help request. Their support info is worthless. The instructions refer to settings which don't exist and password format which is unusable (/"1234/" ?).
When the WM phones successfully pair, there is a re-occuring problem in both Parrot units where there appears to be an incoming call (it doesn't show a caller ID - just 'CALL') but the call cannot be answered. If you press the green button to answer, the unit locks up. You can't "disconnect" with the red button. The only thing you can do, is turn the car off, wait for the unit to turn off, and then turn the car back on to reset. Sometimes my Tilt would get locked up from the call and need to be soft-reset as well.
I had the unit working successfully with non-WM phones for some time, so it was no longer under warranty. When it started with the WM phones I took it to the installer. He was aware of the problem, but had no idea how to deal with it as the problem is so transient.
Bottom line - stay away from Parrot if you have a WM phone.
sblevine
have you try Jetware? I think it may solve alot of your problems
Used Jetware in the past and it caused more problems than it solved. After paying and exhorbitant amount of money for a setup, should not be needing to spend another $15 bucks and installing new software on the phone anyways. The answer I received from Parrot is that even though their website specifically says that the TP2 is a supported phone they are not aware of that and it is not. Real organization there. They also said they will no longer be supporting the MK6000 with software updates not that they supported it much to begin with. They are more than happy to try and find a workaround which I will try but not holding my breath. This will be the last Parrot product I will purchase. The MK6000 is less than 2 years old and is a hard install. It is unimaginable that a company should stop supporting such a product in such a short period of time. The vehicle you need to rip apart to install this thing will more than likely be in financing three times as long. Thoroughly unacceptable.
I had some issues with the TP2 on my carkit too. I discovered that issue was with the ROM on my TP2. Because the carkit downloads the contacts, TP2 just blocks somehow, The response of the phone was slow, I could not accept calls... Then I have installed 6.5 beta version of rom for TP2 and it has sloved the issue. Maybe you could just try installing "official ROM" 6.5.
I am glad you have written this all down. I have an MK6000 in my car now, and while I have some issues between it and my (soon to be old) Tilt, I can make calls, have full conversations and listen to music. I just have to put up with weirdness after I hang up the call and check to ensure my phone isn't suddenly in silent mode when I turn the car off.
I would like to know, what else is out there as far as installed hands-free kits that will work with WM phones? I've got a Tilt 2 coming to me this week (yay!) so I really don't want more problems!!
-Chuck
so is the parrot mk6000 worth it, i need a bluetooth car kit and it has the basic functions i need
also is this a good price or is it available cheaper from another place , the site i saw it at i think was mynewgps.co.uk
Many thanks

[Q] Atrix won't maintain BT Connection

My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
Sorry to hear that. I have so far no problems with connecting my phone to my built in BT system. I have a Mazda 2010. I stream music and get incoming calls too.
I used a bt headset for an hour long conference call this morning. No lost connections yet. Reboot doesn't help?
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Nope, rebooting doesn't help. BT on the Atrix works just fine with my Panasonic house phone that has BT on it.
I had the same issue today in my 2010 Dodge Ram. Captivate worked great in it, but the Atrix dropped the BT/Call after 30-45 seconds or so. I haven't noticed it dropping connection when I'm not using the phone (I have an icon on my ent/nav headunit), only saw the icon disappear when on a call.
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My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
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OK, so I messed with it some more...
If I'm super-fast, I can dial from the car's BT system-- and the name of the phone does appear on the car's Nav. That is, until the phone and/or car drops the connection.
I've asked for help on Motorola's forum, and been tracking down a Product Manager @ ATT to get the word up the chain.
I have the same issue with my 04 3-Series. I posted about this in the Problem forum.
No bt issues here. I used it yesterday with a car kit/fm transmitter to stream Slacker and nav simultaneously to my stereo for a couple of hours and it worked great.
Ziuck said:
I have the same issue with my 04 3-Series. I posted about this in the Problem forum.
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Think we've got the same BT ULF's in our car. Please let me know if you find a solution, and I'll do the same.
mgymnop said:
Sorry to hear that. I have so far no problems with connecting my phone to my built in BT system. I have a Mazda 2010. I stream music and get incoming calls too.
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Can you skip forward and back and pause?
I could with the iphone but have not been able to get it to work with android.
The weirdest bit is that I got it to work for Pandora ONCE... then never again.
I think it has something to do with the way android treats certain devices... I have motorola BT stereo headphones that the controls worked for WinMo W7 and iphone, but do not work on any android device I've tried.
I also lose connection with the in car BT occaisionally but not very often and can usually get it to reconnect without much hassle.
2010 mazda 3.
Exwoodchuck said:
My Atrix pairs up nicely with my '01 BMW's BT system, but will drop the connection after about 15sec, and then reconnect again, hold that connection for about 15sec, then drop it. Phone will show Paired but not connected, and the car will be in a similar state. Following other's suggestions, I cleaned out my Contacts-- even with no Contacts in the phone, the same thing happens.
Any idea what's going on? My iphone 3gs and 4 connected 100%, uploaded their Contacts, and never gave me a moment's problem, so I know the BT in the car is working OK.
Help!
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Just because it worked with your iPhones doesn't mean the BT module isn't faulty...it might just have trouble accepting connections from certain things. Not to say the phone's *not* at fault, but don't assume it's the phone when there's a chance it could still be the phone.
I have a kenwood bluetooth module in my receiver that worked perfectly with every phone until I got an iPhone 4 (even previous iPhones worked fine). It wouldn't connect and finally when I got it to work the sound quality was horrendous (most people couldn't understand a single word). I thought the phone was obviously bad until I contacted Kenwood and they sent me a beta driver for the bluetooth module in the receiver. Updated the driver and it worked perfectly.
I agree- the BT module *could* be fault, but given that it works with all iphones and my BB Bold, I'd have to say that it's more than likely something to do with the way the Atrix/Android handles the connection.
Others are now chiming in on the Motorola Forum about this issue- including someone who has a newer BMW BT module than I have - he's also got the same issue. There's also a Dodge owner earlier in this thread that's got the same problem.
On a whim, I copied 20 contacts to the SIM, thinking that might be the problem.
Same results.
i also had bt pairing problems with my ford sync, and it seems to be android related as it also happened with my n1.
couple things to try that should help: disable wireless and make sure you aren't using the power widget on one of your home screens. also, i used autostarts to unbind the media button pressed event, and between those three things, the bt works fine...
Tried an experiement-- copied some contacts to the SIM.
Same issue- phone connects/disconnect/connects/disconnects for good.
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I agree- the BT module *could* be fault, but given that it works with all iphones and my BB Bold, I'd have to say that it's more than likely something to do with the way the Atrix/Android handles the connection.
Others are now chiming in on the Motorola Forum about this issue- including someone who has a newer BMW BT module than I have - he's also got the same issue. There's also a Dodge owner earlier in this thread that's got the same problem.
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Apparently you read my post...but didn't understand it completely.
My previous receiver worked *PERFECTLY* with all phones but the iPhone 4. I used about 20+ phones with it without a single problem...but the iPhone 4 wouldn't connect 3/4 of the time, and when it did it didn't transfer any contacts and when I made a call the sound quality was *very* bad. I obviously assumed it was the iPhone 4 until I tried another one with it...turned out it *WAS* the receiver having an older firmware that wasn't compatible with the iPhone 4.
The reason a lot of Audis and BMWs aren't working with a few Android phones (the Atrix being one of them) isn't because Android is designed poorly...it's because the firmware in the receivers doesn't handle the Android setup well. The reason most people can connect but can't get contacts is because the way BMW/Audis poll for Contact lists doesn't work with Android. The car manufacturers haven't spent the time required to realize this and put out a correction. You should be complaining to BMW or Audi about this (whichever type you own) and trying to get them to release an updated BT Stack for your receiver (they might say it's not possible but it is).
Thanks for the clarification.
I doubt that BMW is going to release a firmware upgrade for my BT module - its out of production, and it's already 'state of the art', circa 2006 when they stopped producing them. I've read of other issues with newer BMW and other cars still having issues with the Phonebook upload, which is where I think the problem lies. It doesn't seem to be isolated to older cars either- I've read of 2010 models having the same issue I've got, and not just from European makers.
Digging around, this is a common theme with Android and BT not playing nicely-- many other phone manufactures have released patches/updates to correct similar issues, and I'm hoping that with the Atrix being the 'biggest and baddest', that Motorola sees fit to do the same. I've got a $600 fully integrated factory BT system thats now useless, and I'd sure like to have it working again.
I sometimes forget that I've got another BT-enabled car to test on -- a 2010 Audi A3.
My Atrix paired with no issue, then popped up with a message in the Notification area about allowing access to the Contacts. Ahh-hah! When paired to my BMW, I never get that message. So... the BMW appears to be unable to complete the handshake for PBAP access, and when it fails, it drops.
After syncing with my BMW I do not get the PBAP confirmation.
I did not get the confirmation with my Inspire 4G either but that phone DID work just fine. Contacts and audio would work and never had a drop out when I had the phone.
So there is a way to "fix" this issue without updating the vehicles BT.
Tested with my car bluetooth with 2 calls for ~30 mins in all today morning. Worked fine. It stayed paired on all the time.

[Q] Bluetooth in car auto connect issue, major anoyance for many

I know there are a variety of posts of many flavors in regards to OEM in car bluetooth handsfree systems. Some for unbranded i9100, some for the AT&T i777
For anyone out there with the knowledge: Is there anyway to find a task automater (like a macro) to lets say automatically activate the bluetooth button for the paired device, lets say 1 second after Bluetooth turns on. In connection with Auto Bluetooth app (like the ones which turns on when motion is detected) it could be automated. I would do it, except I don't know how to write program code.
I am thinking like "if bluetooth turned on, wait 1 second, trigger paired device input" . Because in that case it would connect (automatically) in most cases I though many many people posting around here.
Anybody any idea?
I am trying to connect my Galaxy S2 with they system in my 2011 Jaguar XJ. I never had a problem with my BlackBerrys. The BlackBerry autoconnects the moment I start the car and all functions work.
Absolutely not so with my S2. It seems that differnet car manufacturers differing systems which use BLuetooth differently. Some work, some don't .
Let me clearify the problem. Phone does NOT AUTOCONNECT and it drives me nuts. Before i just got in the car and never pulled the phone out of my pocket. Now I have to pull it out and manually connect.
I am posting as I may save some of you some time. I tried everything up and down the list. About every Bluetooth apps in the market place. Free or paid. Really pretty much all of them. Nothing worked. I upgraded to the (leaked) UCKJ1 and back to the original UCKH1. I rooted and unrooted.
To no avail. All I can do is use a shortcut widget to save me a few menues to navigate.
So for the ones with the same problem; you know all the things I tried. Don't waste your time.
It takes two devices to successfuly connect. If a connection doesn't happen, you can't blame just one device. My ISGS2 auto-connects to all of my devices (AV receiver, headset, PC, car, portable speaker, G-Tab) automatically every time. I get you're upset, but you can't single the phone out alone. As for cars, in the ISGS2 forum, non-iDrive (older) BMW's were the majority of the problem.
Same here. I have no problem auto connect to my BT devices. But when it comes to BT auto connections, problems are common. Both sides of the BT connection can be the cause.
Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
HTH,
Charlie
Mine connects flawlessly in my 2010 Camaro SS.
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Hi, Thanks to all for the responses. I completely agree that it takes two devices to do it right and I am fully keeping that in mind. I have 2 more cars I can try with. So I will check if it works with my wife's Lexus and with my Clarion system in another car I have.
It just is, that my BlackBerry (which I don't miss at all) simply did the job perfect. Obviously I can't tweak anything on the car side as that is next to impossible. There is no open source code and all is so proprietary.
So the only hope I have is to figure out a way to teach my SGSII.
Again thanks for the input. I do absolutely LOVE my Galaxy S2 (i777) therefore this is a simply irritating that I have to push buttons when I get in the car.
Hearing that it works for most of you is well, good for you and not so good for me.
Blaze9 said:
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Charlie
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Well, I will experiment a bit more and I will share what I will find in case others have similar problems.
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
Entropy512 said:
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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Hello,
I have to fully agree with Entropy512. Bluetooth compatibility is a disaster. Especially after all the years around. Not sure who, what and where is deciding on BT specs, drafts and so forth.
I know that with car systems it is a hit and miss. But it doesn't have to be. We all know that. I was digging on my good old Jaguar forum. What I found confirms exactly what we are saying.
Earlier Samsung Androids barely could hold a connection on Jaguars systems. Just with later versions and Gingerbread that was resolved. And none of the Samsungs autoconnect to any Jaguar system. And that is the same for Audi, Merceds and Subaru and probably some others. According to the Jag forum Samsung knows about this and worked on it.
But here is the main problem. On my wife's Lexus and on my Clarion head unit in my van it works like a charm. Automatically connects without a hitch. I understand Samsung can fix that but than it may not work on other cars. But how come BlackBerry was able to do what the Samsung unit can't???
And yes, some features like phonebook, direct dial and so forth are totally hit and miss. How do car unit manufacturers test? With what? Just one phone from 3 years ago? Same with the phone manufacturers. Is anybody talking? Seriously, why can't car head units manufacturers and phone manufacturers not figure out how to get on the same page? Car BT is becoming a standard equipment. So do BT enabled phones, no matter smart phones or what have you. There are not that many head unit manufacturers. So they can't agree on a standard which then can be used by the devolpers for a decent BT stack for phones? Completely ridiculous. Can make phones talk to you like the Apple Siri but can't get a bluetooth connection.
OK, I got that off my chest. Now I will try to get to work. All I can do is working on the i777 side, because there is no acces to anything on the Jaguar side.
Funny thing is, my phone is always stating phonebook request when I get in the car. Eventhoug I turned phone book off in the car. So the phone "hears" the car. Just without hitting the profile for the car it won't connect.
Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Do you have problems with the Mazda taking too long to switch from "Music" mode to "Headset" mode, thus the vlingo voice prompt timing out? My mazda has that issue and it makes vlingo in the car pretty much useless.
I don't typically use voice commands but ill try. It has no issues taking and making calls then going right back to google music streaming.
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I am also experiencing sporadic problems with my SGS2 and 2011 VW Golf using BT. About 75% of the time, it auto-connects fine when I start up the car. The car lets me know it linked and I can make/receive calls through the car's BT system fine. Address book loads as well (though does require a secondary authorization on the phone the very first time you use it).
However, every once in a while it either can't "find" the phone, or goes into a continuing looping state of "paired/not-paired". Generally when I actually want to use it! When it can't find the phone, manually searching for it (on the car's system) usually rectifies it temporarily, but it may go to unpaired a few minutes later. And on occasion, it simply can't find it at all. When I reboot the phone, or disable/re-enable BT on the phone itself, this problem usually goes away. This makes me think it's more of an issue with the phone then the car.
I too came from a BlackBerry torch and never once had a single pairing problem with my car.
When paired, media streaming generally works well, but occasionally I have to stop/restart it a couple times in order for the car to 'see' the media stream and allow me to chose it as the input.
The problem that I have is that the sgs2 will not report signal level to the car, so the car always shows full signal, even if i have no signal.
And it doesn't connect to the car unless the phone is in the car when the car starts. If bluetooth is turned off, or if I leave the car and go out of range, I will have to open the settings and force a connection.
Problem Solved, Autoconnect now working
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
metalco said:
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
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I'm going to try this...
I've been having trouble with it automatically connecting to my 2011 WRX. My iPhone 4 always connected immediately, no problem. But the GS2 has yet to automatically connect, ever. It is paired fine and if I go into the Bluetooth settings, it is paired OK and I can manually tell it to connect. I've tried deleting the connection both from my head unit and the phone and recreating everything multiple times. Still no luck.
I'll try this and report back.
Bluetooth is def one of those technologies that could be enormously awesome but often has so much "fussiness" with it (due to incompatibilities or quirky behavior between varying BT devices) that it can easily become a right-royal PITA, IMO.
I've had quite a few Android phones over the years, now, and tried running both stock OS and many different ROMs on them with one of the expected primary functions of my phone to be as my main music player, including streaming music via BT/A2DP to my car stereo and this one function has ALWAYS proven to be the most frustrating experience. So yeah, I'll fully agree that whomever is "calling the shots" with setting up guidelines and specifications for BT and BT-based devices needs to get themselves an iron fist and put an end to this crap of inconsistent behavior and general flakiness.
When I got my AT&T SGS2 I was shocked to see that Samsung had done something to enable their stock music app to be able to transmit song metadata via BT. Android thus far has only supported AVRCP 1.0 (AFAIK) while you need AVRCP 1.3 (or higher) to be able to have metadata transmit over BT. At first I was ecstatic that FINALLY I could see my song info from my phone displayed on my car stereo while connected via BT. But then I found out that with the SGS2 and the stock music app my car stereo could no longer successfully send play/pause/forward/reverse commands to my phone! D'oh!!!
So then I went back to Poweramp (what I had been using for my primary music app on my previous phone; a Nexus S) and of course it wouldn't display the song metadata. But the big shocker was that it also couldn't recognize control commands issues from my car stereo! Not cool!
I did much tinkering and research and finally found that the music app PlayerPro would successfully work with my head unit (but still no metadata, of course) and so that's where I'm at.
Ridiculous, IMO. Nobody should have to endure such frustrating behavior with BT devices. I really wish somebody could straighten this kind of mess out in regards to Bluetooth and get things to "just work".
No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
ack154 said:
No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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OK, you can try one more thing;
Freeze all of those files: BluetoothPBAP, BluetoothShare and BluetoothAvrcp. If you have any other entries you can try freezing them, too. Just everything EXCEPT anything with a name like Brcm or BrcmBluetoothServices.
Just try it. And MAKE SURE to wipe cache after freezing, or better reboot. Also you want to make check they are in a "frozen" state after rebooting. I used "MyToolbox" and it worked perfect.
I haven't checked if I can still stream music, but I never use that anyways. I froze all of those and started unfreezing one by one. The experiment showed that in my case I only had to freeze the BluetoothShare. You may have to freeze the others, too.
Let me know how ot works. I am curious now.

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