Htc Latest Wm6 Version - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

Just upload the htc x7500 wm6 version
CE OS 5.2.1238 (BUILD 17745.0.2.3
Radio 1.50.00.00
Rom date 07/20/07
21/08/2007
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HTC X7500
Still testing it Havent seeen that much difference do far.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52468882/Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
high Speed Uk Mirror (thanx to midget)
http://htc-devs.com/uploads/Athena/R...00.00_Ship.exe

Is it official...? No news about it on htc site...

asci said:
Is it official...? No news about it on htc site...
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yes just install it

duttythroy said:
Just upload the htc x7500 wm6 version
CE OS 5.2.1238 (BUILD 17745.0.2.3
Radio 1.50.00.00
Rom date 07/20/07
Thank you...downloading....
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http://htc-devs.com/uploads/Athena/Roms/Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
High Speed UK Mirror (yes it's official)

GPS seems a lot better for me , anyhow finally got TOM TOM working quickly again since WM5

Midget_1990 said:
http://htc-devs.com/uploads/Athena/Roms/Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
High Speed UK Mirror (yes it's official)
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Damn, It is realy fast. I supose everybody is pulling it down. I get 235 kbs while from htc is only about 8.
Got it (from XDA of course).

Can we install it from Vista?
On HTC club it is said that we can install it from Vista without any special premisions. Should I try?
Midget, what will you say?

Tadeusz said:
On HTC club it is said that we can install it from Vista without any special premisions. Should I try?
Midget, what will you say?
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i flashed mines with vista ultimate

duttythroy said:
i flashed mines with vista ultimate
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Thx, I am backing up main and charging. Uff so much to install.

duttythroy said:
i flashed mines with vista ultimate
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Do you have OneNote with Office? And what about Opera?

Tadeusz said:
Damn, It is realy fast. I supose everybody is pulling it down. I get 235 kbs while from htc is only about 8.
Got it (from XDA of course).
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Not the same here...very slow...abt 2.2 only....

Tadeusz said:
Do you have OneNote with Office? And what about Opera?
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no onenote and yes i got opera

duttythroy said:
i flashed mines with vista ultimate
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Sorry for all this questions, but you are the first with new WM6 on board, i guess.
Could you tell, if you chard your battery full before uploading new ROM or didn't bother? HTC says that the battery shoild be t lest 50% full.
If you did not charged it full, then did new rom picked up he battery level properly? In Universal and WM6 ROMs there was a problem with it.

Tadeusz said:
Sorry for all this questions, but you are the first with new WM6 on board, i guess.
Could you tell, if you chard your battery full before uploading new ROM or didn't bother? HTC says that the battery shoild be t lest 50% full.
If you did not charged it full, then did new rom picked up he battery level properly? In Universal and WM6 ROMs there was a problem with it.
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You should always flash and device with at least 50 % just in case you got a bad flash and ur device will need to be on until you can fix it

duttythroy said:
You should always flash and device with at least 50 % just in case you got a bad flash and ur device will need to be on until you can fix it
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Yes I know, but in Universal and some of WM6 roms, if uploaded a new rom with your battery, say, 70% charged, than, the new rom treated that as 100% and your battery was showing faster degradation. There was something wrong with it there. There was an advice to upload a new rom only with battery fully charged, because of that.
I wonder if here we are free of that problem.

Tadeusz said:
Yes I know, but in Universal and some of WM6 roms, if uploaded a new rom with your battery, say, 70% charged, than, the new rom treated that as 100% and your battery was showing faster degradation. There was something wrong with it there.
I wonder if here we are free of that problem.
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i flash my device twice today at 60% and flash went ok
Ensure your device is hardspl just in case

duttythroy said:
Ensure your device is hardspl just in case
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You mean CID Unlocked? Well, it is not. I use the first WM6 rom shown here. It was aimed for X7500 Advantage, and it was said it did not need CID Unlock. It works pretty good.
Now, this rom is from HTC, and again for my device, isn't it? It is for Advantage x7500 WWE European version, taken from Midgets link, so I hope it should work.

I've downloaded italian version after 5 hours...but file was corrupted. Can someone who still have it upload Advantage_HTC_ITA_2.21.408.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe on rapidshare?
THX so much!

Can someone upload Advantage_HTC_NOR_2.21.409.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe on rapidshare?

Related

Pdaviet Wm6

There is a release coming from Vietnam (thnks John-Wu!)
It is said to be stable and fast.
Gets everything working and consuption is moderated. It is a clean version.
If you want to try it, just get it from HERE
Don't forget to post your opinions about it.
A fine release adviced in http://todopocketpc.com by tiggerbcn
Respect!
PASSWORD is PDAVIET
cesardeluxe said:
There is a release coming from Thailand
It is said to be stable and fast.
Gets everything working and consuption is moderated. It is a clean version.
If you want to try it, just get it from HERE
Don't forget to post your opinions about it.
A fine release adviced in http://todopocketpc.com by tiggerbcn
Respect!
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Password? Must wait again?
Thanks, Eladio
password??!
password plz?
Yeah sorry i am waiting too for the password. I 'll post it ASAP
cesardeluxe said:
There is a release coming from Thailand
It is said to be stable and fast.
Gets everything working and consuption is moderated. It is a clean version.
If you want to try it, just get it from HERE
Don't forget to post your opinions about it.
A fine release adviced in http://todopocketpc.com by tiggerbcn
Respect!
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sorry but this release is not from Thailand. As you can see in the word "PDAViet", it comes from Vietnam
The password is PDAVIET
but there ist an better release which called: PDAVIET 1.0. With this Rom, you can cook your own EXTROM
Download at: http://rapidshare.com/files/32493040/WM6_Prophet_PDAViet_v1.0.zip
version 1.1:
http://rapidshare.com/files/32493762/WM6_Prophet_PDAViet_v1.1.zip
version 4.0.0.0.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/32714434/WM6_Prophet_PDAViet_v4.0.0.1.zip
password is the same.
all ROMs:
- over 31MB free memory
- fast
- stable
- Wifi, IR, BT works
V.1.1:
- PIM Backup 1.9
- MIDlet Manager 11.1.7.1023
- BatteryStatus 4.02 build 203
- CommManager 1.6 (9 icons + skin CrossBow)
- Macromedia Flash ActiveX 6
- remove Voice Command
- remove Market Place and Windows Update
--> but as far as i can see: the best ROMs at the moment (date 22.05.07)
have fun with it!
John
John-Wu said:
sorry but this release is not from Thailand. As you can see in the word "PDAViet", it comes from Vietnam
The pass is PDAVIET
but there ist an better release which called: PDAVIET 1.0. With this Rom, you can cook your own EXTROM
Download at: http://tom-love.net/Rom/Rom_Team/Prophet_PV_1.0.zip
pass is the same
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the 2nd one is great
G3 or G4
Hi, can you said me if this version is form G3 or G4? after burn into my S200, it's stay on the first splash screen.
thanks.
Will give a try and let you guys posted..
Regards,
Carty..
elDoctor said:
Hi, can you said me if this version is form G3 or G4? after burn into my S200, it's stay on the first splash screen.
thanks.
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Both. HAve you made a hard reset after flashing? HAve you flashed from a no vendor WM5?
CIao
I updated from TrueNeytral 1.3, probably i have to downgrade to WM5 before?
thanks
I just installed this ROM (only worked at the 2nd time) and these are my first impressions about it:
- The splash screen is blue and the logo looks blurry. Looks like it was edited.
- Extended ROM customization started automatically.
- COMM Manager looks like the old WM5 one (is it?)
- WiFi seems to work flawlessly
- Charges from USB (over 260mA)
I'll explore it some more and let you know
EDIT: I am upgrading to WM6 from this WM5 ROM:
JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship (after the upgrade i update the radio to 2.69.21).
Thank you John-Wu for the link, a rom with very good face:
- And a lot of free memory, Many free ram. I like
- Wi-fi work rapidly and very well, I like.
- BT working good, I like.
- Rapid and stable, I like.
- Battery, consumes very much 1 % in 40 minutes (In stand_by and the screen off), I do'nt like.
it does not charge in the cigaret lighter of the car, I do'nt like
Greetings
It's fast n smooth as I had read before about this PDAVIET ROM.
Everyone should give a damn try on this one. You can count on me
clustered said:
It's fast n smooth as I had read before about this PDAVIET ROM.
Everyone should give a damn try on this one. You can count on me
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YEAH! everything going okay. It has a build already used before by other roms i had. So the feeling is quite good in general. Now i am waiting as tiggerbcn does to see this whole night consumption. With trueneytral 1.2clean 8 hours was -3%. We'll see with this Vietnamese what happens.
I am pretty happy that we still continue checking with all these developments. Anyway this roms have a similar behavior as they are build 17217. I am waiting for TRUENEYTRAL's 1.3 fixed which is build 17913. So we may test something really new
some pictures from this Rom:
http://www.pdaviet.com/showthread.php?t=6801&page=64
This packet, 'Prophet_PV_1.0.zip' is the same as this, 'PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar' ???
tiggerbcn said:
- Battery, consumes very much 1 % in 40 minutes (In stand_by and the screen off), I do'nt like.
Greetings
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Turn the IR off to save battery !!!
Cloudyfa said:
Turn the IR off to save battery !!!
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welcome Cloudyfa, the maker of this ROM
P4k1t0 said:
This packet, 'Prophet_PV_1.0.zip' is the same as this, 'PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar' ???
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Same in some features but in fact they were built by another, you can try one by one
In my opinion, I prefer Prophet_PV_V.1.0 although there some shortcomings, e.g: WM6 welcome screen, interface of Comm Manager,....
Hi Cloudyfa! Nice to meet you here
Back to fantastic...
Hi, my iGO My way 2006 Plus not working with this ROM...
Anyway thanks for work.
Still waiting for RTM..

Wm6 10.0.15342.0 ?

Greets.
Is anyone cooking Wizard's "WM6 Official Release MS 10.0.15342.0" rom for Prophet?
It seems to be the fastest and more stable ROM available so far. And given that it has new WIFI drivers, maybe it fixes the bug that WIFI only turns on sometimes.
There are also reports that this rom gives alot more battery time then the former ones.
Regards.
Oooo.. I'd like to find out the compatibility of this with Prophet too.. this sounds yummy. let's get cooking!
mr_yellow said:
Oooo.. I'd like to find out the compatibility of this with Prophet too.. this sounds yummy. let's get cooking!
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I am happy that this never ending story stills like that
As soon as i can i will try to introduce myself in this discipline (cooking) after being an exigent gourmet!
What about "PDAVIET 10.0.15342.0".
That would be nice.
rjtd said:
What about "PDAVIET 10.0.15342.0".
That would be nice.
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I like the sound of that to. Pdaviet rocks!
cesardeluxe said:
I am happy that this never ending story stills like that
As soon as i can i will try to introduce myself in this discipline (cooking) after being an exigent gourmet!
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Junkie! Junkie! Junkie!
Did you notice that all major roms for wizard are now based on 15342?
rjtd said:
Did you notice that all major roms for wizard are now based on 15342?
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YEah, it is just a matter of time. The most difficult part in my opinion will be to find the correct registry changes to make it fly. we don't want our prophet walk like the hunchedback of Notredâme! Is it a matter of coping things from a working OS in prophet, or is it about fail - success? sorry for my ignorance, just want to evaluate my possibilities
v10.2.0.8.5
http://www.pdaviet-media.info/PhamQuang/ROM/PROPHET/WM6.0/PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar
Rooks said:
v10.2.0.8.5
http://www.pdaviet-media.info/PhamQuang/ROM/PROPHET/WM6.0/PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar
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What is it?
Rooks said:
v10.2.0.8.5
http://www.pdaviet-media.info/PhamQuang/ROM/PROPHET/WM6.0/PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar
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Uhmm..
What is the date of that ROM?
Even thus it is more recent, it seems that 10.0.15342.0 is the best version for Wizards
Does anyone know where to start for porting 10.0.15342.0 to Prophet?
What will happen if I flash Wizard to my Prophet?
How to do a Prophet kitchen based on 10.0.15342.0?
Come on guys. This is the best ROM, and the fatest one. I think it is kindof sad that nobody is porting this, so, if someone can help me on where to start, maybe I can try to port it.
Rooks said:
v10.2.0.8.5
http://www.pdaviet-media.info/PhamQuang/ROM/PROPHET/WM6.0/PROPHET_WWE_v10.2.0.8.5PV.rar
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I have downloaded the file and noted the file name, it appears to be a ROM for the Prophet, but Rooks, do tell us what it is, before I venture my machine into this rom as a guinea pig please.
What exactly is it??
I have also downloaded the file, and it seems to me that it's an old rom, but not 10.0.15342.0 .
Junkie can't resist
Just wish me luck, I am downloading it and going to flash it with my Prophet. Since Rook is keeping his mouth shut.
I will tell everyone whether it is poison or what?
Busy flashing will report back
ROM date is 3/17/2007
The ROM date is 3/17/2007, that put us back to the PDAViet 1.0 time.
Os 5.2.968 (build 17217.0.0.0.0)
I think ist an old version,
- Today screen does not get updated
- Active sync over BT stays goods after reset
-Sip look nice and is pretty fast
rest, nothing special to report, those willing can try for themselves.
helgo said:
Os 5.2.968 (build 17217.0.0.0.0)
I think ist an old version,
- Today screen does not get updated
- Active sync over BT stays goods after reset
-Sip look nice and is pretty fast
rest, nothing special to report, those willing can try for themselves.
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Can you keep running this version and see?
There are a few things that we want in these beta ROMs.
Priority:
1. Stability: No frequent hangs, no missing calls, not to drain battery.
2. Usability: Basic WiFi, BT, Windows Live, IR ....
3. Speed
4. Good look and features
4. Good looks
Sorry reverted back to 4.0.0.3a

Any Chance of a WM 6.1 21000 ROM ?

Is anyone actually working on a WM 6.1 ROM with a post-21000 Build Number for ATOM Life ?
I'd really like to be able to use the Rhodium Menu Enhancements (FingerMenu is just not the same) but I find myself unable to cook a ROM on my own.
I tried to register an account on PDAVIET where the ROM comes from i'm using right now, but to no avail as I can't read Vietnamese and Google Translator somehow can't translate it...
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
jadephyre said:
someone close this please, no one is interested in this Thread anyway... hope y'all are happy with your WM 6.5 Betas...
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Yes of course almost all of us are now on 6.5 and really happy. Latest 6.5 roms 21728 Lite and 21812 Lite are running on our device better than 6.1. More stable and faster and errorfree. Why dont you try 21812 Lite just released and experience for yourself. I am sure you wont be coming back to 6.1. By the way my device is Atom Life. But there are variations of roms for other devices too...
Dont worry for word "BETA", currently all are tested ok and working well.... Beta in these forum, does not mean they are in developement. They are only ported from latest releases and customized with software bundle. Rest OS is basic and work well for Atom Life or comet you have. See my signature down there, all listed roms are stable and fast and tested ok. Rest I have not mentioned.
No need to reply.... bye
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
jadephyre said:
WM 6.5 is a Battery-drainer... also, I would need a ROM where Manila 2D runs, as I tried Titanium... and hated it.
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wm6.5 WAS a battery drainer, but not now. i am using 21812 lite with longer battery time, say 3 days standby and 2 days with phone use. better than 6.0 or 6.1. seems you do not read the post carefully. LITE version does not have titanium and we are using M2D without any problem with moe memory free and longer battery time. Now dont comment without trying it. read my signature too..
Alright, I tried it, and went back to WM6.1 as WM6.5 was constantly taking up 80 Percent of the Phone's Resources (RAM) with Manila2D active.
It only takes around 56 Percent of it when using WM6.1.
I'm not going to make the switch to WM6.5 as it seems.
And my next Phone is going to be an Android Phone... i'm sick of resistive Touchscreens, i want capacitive ones.
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
i'm using ATOM LIFE - PDAVIET ROM WM6.1 (Core 20931) by TranMinhMan
fuligin said:
jadephyre would you mind sharing what rom you are currently using. I am trying to find a rom that doesnt wolf down my battery.
indiacam: I really dont know how you are geting very good battery life.
Im using the same rom as you yet as jadephyre said ram usage is very hard.
Interface is very nice though
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Specifically two reasons
1) My battery is XP-09 Lithium Polymer and not Li-ION and distributed with most PDAs. Its really a good battery O2 have distributed in India. Working like new since past 17 months.
2) And yes there are some additional memory setup required to be done in Registry Settings with the help of ACT. Click here for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4081622#post4081622
@indiacam
I got the same powerpack, but what is of more interest for me is how to preserve RAM...
Thanks fellas,
I got the same battery pack also!
My battery performance is really horbile even with your settings Indiacam.
As for Ram, im using about 63% on 6.5 lite by uninstalling some things like the htc album. I shall try to flash again using both

[REQUEST] EnergyRom Series 2.0 21042 Build 416

Hello, becouse speed and performance is most important for me I`m looking for last EnergyRom 6.1 I think It`s EnergyROM Series 2.0 21042 - Final Rhodium Manila ** || Build 41609 but does anybody knows where I can download it, or maybe somebody can upload it.
I have it uploading on my 4shared. With my upload speed it should be ready in about an hour.
Here you go -> Link
Thank you!!!
Thank you my friend. Best regards
I want it also..for the same reason..Thank you my friend.so much...Have you also this version without manilla??I use spb mobile shell...thanks..
So you guys mean to say that old ROM is faster than my latest Phoenix2 ROM ? I find that very hard to believe...
NRGZ28 said:
So you guys mean to say that old ROM is faster than my latest Phoenix2 ROM ? I find that very hard to believe...
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My dear friend nrgz28..I have been used most of energy roms in my touch pro..Now i use the last one of wm6.5..I thing you've made top roms for touch pro..But my main problem with the wm6.5 is the battery..It end without understand it..I have everything close..Backlight to minimum and it works for 1-2 day max..On wm6.1 battery keeps at max 2-3 days with the same usage..In addition in wm6.5 i have some lags..I cant explain that because i use sktools and everything is optimized on my phone and also I never use multitasking..i still trying to find a good rom to balance battery and speed..thats why i think wm6.1 is better..
sorry for my language...thanks
mixalhsxalk said:
I want it also..for the same reason..Thank you my friend.so much...Have you also this version without manilla??I use spb mobile shell...thanks..
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Nope, I don't have that one in the archives.
NRGZ28 said:
So you guys mean to say that old ROM is faster than my latest Phoenix2 ROM ? I find that very hard to believe...
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Ouch! I don't know if this is true but lately my battery has been pretty much down the toilet but maybe we have aging batteries right?
DJGonzo said:
Ouch! I don't know if this is true but lately my battery has been pretty much down the toilet but maybe we have aging batteries right?
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I dont have an idea..Maybe the cool graphics need more power..I use titanium+spb ms 3.5.3(tweaked)..so you can imagine..

New Official ROM for HD2

HTC have just posted a new ROM v 3.14.421.2 on their website.
The version number is way higher than the 1.66.42.1 mine is currently running.
Anyone tried it out yet?
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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As your signature says: "Desire HD2-7". That combines everything, doesn´t it?
WinMo 6.5 *does* indeed still offer some advantages and software you cannot find on other platforms... but I think the interest for an HTC stock ROM is... close to zero.
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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Yup, I do.
radjanoonan said:
HTC have just posted a new ROM v 3.14.421.2 on their website.
The version number is way higher than the 1.66.42.1 mine is currently running.
Anyone tried it out yet?
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Your stock ROM "1.66.42.1" it's branded.
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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I still use Winmo while using Garmin XT. So, any suggestion for replacement of Garmin XT in WP7 or android?
I am using 3.14.405.2 and its works a lot better than 1.66. I had to upgrade as 1.66 would jam when I received multiple SMS at the same time. I tried 1.72.841.0 but did not like the propriety settings and locks that Telstra (AUS) use.
I also tried Duttys V(14) but it was buggy with Wifi and Youtube, so have gone to 3.14.405.2 and it all works fine.
Now, I am waiting for Windows Embedded Handheld 6.5 as I have custom apps that Windows Phone 7 or Android cannot run.
cheers
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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Dont mean to hi-jack but on the side,
Hows 7 going on ur HD2? Did you activate the cloud systems yet or still running on locked one?
where is this new ROM?
[EDIT] Found it in "HTC Middle East & Africa-English"
Can someone send me the direct download link from HTC.
I get the message "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device." and I can't go further with the download.
htc hd2 3.14.421.2 i need this rom help guys......
i have 1 htc hd2 in my phon france lengweg........i want cheng lenweg ....my rom varsson is very hight......
rom varson 3.14.4666
varsion menila 2.5.20181527.0
redio varsionn 2.15.50.14
spl-33.03.0000 xe
post this rom in this varsion tnx in advance...........

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