Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
I quick reply to one part of your question is that I tried running igo 2006 on my athena with 96dpi and it didnt run right. The buttons where all messed up and I couldn't even get through the first menu. TomTom works great with 96dpi though. Miomap might be a little different than iGo. I know they aren't exactly the same just similar. I'm not sure about reliability in the UK though since I am in the US. Miomaps has always work the best for me. The UI and maps load quicker with iGo. TomTom has the traffic support which iGo does not. TomTom also has a pretty nice software package that you install on your computer called TomTom home. This will update your software whenever there is an update and you can get extras through there (ie. POI, Speed Cameras).
TwoPlus1 said:
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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Igo only works in 192dpi. TomTom routing is nowhere near as good but it does traffic (Igo doesn't except via TMC). Copilot 7 isn't out yet AFAIK.
Mount - use the Brodit. BT - use Parrot if necessary.
CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
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CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
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Where is that available?
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Where is that available?
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Sorry, still in Beta.
TwoPlus1 said:
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
I've used copilot 5 for about two years, iGO my way 2006 for about two months and Tom Tom for about a month. Of these, iGo is clearly the best IMHO. It's route calculation is the least illogical. It is the prettiest and most user friendly, fastest in getting a GPS fix, and is the only one that warns (audio warning) me when I exceed legal speed limit. Tom Tom only display the speeding visually, but who could keep an eye on the device to know that while driving?
The real downside is that iGO can't run in 96 or 128 dpi mode whereas TT can. Of these, I personally think TT's route calculatin is the least sensible. I often have two of them running side by side (on two devices of course) to see the difference.
Now, i've decided to stick with iGO despite the display problem. I'm love 128 dpi, but whenever I use iGO, I just switch back to 192. Not a real problem if you do it while walking to your car. By the time I start the engine, it is reset back to 192 and gps ready to go.
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
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For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Re Brodit - IMHO they are the best mounts. They mount in different places in different cars - see their website (Brodit.se). I'm not sure I'd mount an Ameo on the windscreen - I would be worried it wasn't secure enough on a suction mount.
I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
Hope this helps
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
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I know about thge TMC functions but (a) they're not widely available (b) you would need an external TMC receiver (the Ameo can't deal with this) and (c) they're not as good as the trafficmaster (and similar) data systems we have here. TomTom's (data) traffic system was quite good. Shame!
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
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could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
beginner said:
could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
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I have come across a few reports that say Athena has an inbuilt FM receiver and had always assumed that once the TMC service provider is ready I would start using the traffic management feature of my device. But now that you raised the question, I had became curious myself as to whether these reports were accurate. I wish I would locate those webpages, but I don't seem to be able to locate them now.
So, I went and read the service manual to see if anything is mentioned there. Unfortunately, I have to say that the answer is no. The service manual has made no mentioned of FM receiver at all.
With this, I now have to correct my earlier impression and would now assume that these reports were inaccurate. I'm not sure if the service manual is for 7500 only or for both 7500 and 7501. I'm also come across some debate on whether 7501 has an FM radio receiver. I'm pretty sure having come across some debate pointing both ways. However, since I do not have the 7501 manual, I would not raise my hope there.
It would be so nice, so necessary to have FM built in so that we could use the TMC functions. Oh well....
Maps for IGO / MIO
in case that you were not updated with the maps here are the maps for IGO 2006 and MIO
http://www.filefactory.com/f/9eeb0f75e820535d/
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i need a map program for my BA. i am quite a noob with this stuff since this is my first ppc. so i am looking for something user friendly but does not skimp too much on the usefulness of the program. i hear about tom tom a bit dunno if it is great but what about pocket streets' by ms or any of the others out there. i just want a mapping program no gps unit yet.
I am using pocket map navigator and love it. with our without gps it works great
Eddie
I use Pharos Ostia
I've been using for several years... usually very reliable
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I am using pocket map navigator and love it. with our without gps it works great
Eddie
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I have the wallaby(3.04v), himalaya(wm2k5 v 150i.64), BA(V140) and Magician v.112.
I am keen to use any one of my above htc device for satellite gps navigation.
I am new and have never use gps satellite navigation on any of my htc products before.
can someone please advise which hardware n software should I purchase to have the gps navigation which has VOICE ACTIVATED PROMPT in directions.
thanks in advance
Tomtom would probably be your best bet, a cheap wired gps will work just fine and keep both the pda and the gps powered in car. If you want to use it outside the vehicle then the tomtom bluetooth gps is a good bet.
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Tomtom would probably be your best bet, a cheap wired gps will work just fine and keep both the pda and the gps powered in car. If you want to use it outside the vehicle then the tomtom bluetooth gps is a good bet.
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Thank u.
It may sound funny as I am a novice in gps.
Is the tom tom hardware plus software?
Does it come with VOICE PROMPT for directions?
regards.
Yes you can buy a complete package or just the hardware/software, voice prompts included. There are many addons such as post code search, speed camera alerts, online traffic info etc. Also many overlays of points of interest, navigate from contacts/address book.
Just a thought, what country will you be driving in??
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Yes you can buy a complete package or just the hardware/software, voice prompts included. There are many addons such as post code search, speed camera alerts, online traffic info etc. Also many overlays of points of interest, navigate from contacts/address book.
Just a thought, what country will you be driving in??
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does the hardware come with software? Or we can buy it separately just like the add ons. Where can I buy it?
I would be using it in Malaysia
thanks n regards.
i'd recommend the following bluetooth GPS receiver, it can operate from the glovebox and has a very good battery life.
Globalsat BT-338 Sirf Star III 20 Channel Bluetooth GPS receiver
i myself have the tomtom receiver but my friend bought this one and i'd buy it if purchasing again.
it will work with any mapping software that requires a gps receiver and i recommend tomtom sofwtware for ease of use, can be used on 2d or 3d mode.
I've been pretty happy with DeLorme's Pocket Street Atlas -- it's about half the price of TomTom.
Hello everyone, I need some hel.
I am about to get GPS for the wizard.
I'm very set on a small bluetooth gps device, but I need to know what program to use, I'd likw to make sure that the program has an alternate direction feature and auto adjusts directions for wich way I go.
If any of you could help, that'd be great.
Thanks
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Hello everyone, I need some hel.
I am about to get GPS for the wizard.
I'm very set on a small bluetooth gps device, but I need to know what program to use, I'd likw to make sure that the program has an alternate direction feature and auto adjusts directions for wich way I go.
If any of you could help, that'd be great.
Thanks
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im in the market or one too and i don't know squat about them. i'm still learning. but what i do know is, everyone loves tomtom software for gps devices. i think i'm going to go that route.
Head over to semsons.com or buygpsnow.com -- they offer bundles of GPS software & hardware. WRT hardware, pretty much any unit using the Sirf III chipset will work well. I use the Globalsat BT338 -- it has a long battery life, and I can get a decent signal indoors.
I agree with 3waygeek, The two aforementioned websites have nice offerings. I use a Holux GPSlim 236 with my Wizard. No issues, decent battery life good signal strength
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I agree with 3waygeek, The two aforementioned websites have nice offerings. I use a Holux GPSlim 236 with my Wizard. No issues, decent battery life good signal strength
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What application do you track yourself with?
Like garmin, Tomtom, Streets and Trips...
Cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS
I recently purchased the Cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS (view product website) to use with my MDA. I got it at geeks.com for $35. It works quite well. I tried alot of freebie GPS apps, and I stuck with Google mobile maps (view details) program.
The device tracks up to 12 satellites at once, and I've seen it go that high. There is no need for an additional antenna, although it does come with the option to plug one in.
The only downside with Google mobile maps is that the maps are downloaded on-the-fly over the GPRS connection. It can lag sometimes, and won't work if you have no signal. But it is a plus that it doesn't take up a ton of strorage space with image maps.
I have everything all working fine...
I have successfully used four different bluetooth GPS units, so really don't worry about which on eyou get... Currently I'm using A Holox BT321 bought on Ebay for 30GBP - turns itself off when not in use, and useds the same mini-usb charger as the wizard too.
As for software, TomTom does everything you need. I've had it both versions 5 and 6 working on both WM5 and all flavours of WM6 around.
My version of tomtom was 'located' -try Googling for a torrent (or contact me direct)!
I've also tried destinator, but that was garbage, and although CoPilot has been recommended, I can't justify the expense when TomTom works fine.
Tip: To make TomTom work with your GPS...
Pair up the GPS, then in the bluetooth settings, add a port, outbound, as COM6 unsecured. Then in TomTom GPS settings, just select 'Other Bluetooth Reciever' and port COM6.... simple.
GPS and Navigation Program
Sorry if this is too late, however I have only just joined the website.
I too have used a Holux GPSlim 236 with my imate K-Jam (Wizard) as per 'anothersmith' and when I dropped that I went for the i-Blue 737 which has a wonderful feature of going into a standby mode if you walk away without turing it off until a device that is synced with it comes back into range. Not just any bluetooth device. I also found the i-Blue to be a little more accurate with Navigation compared with Magellan and Garmin designated GPS units.
Paired with this I also use TTN6 which I find to be probably the most accurate maps for my area (Nth Qld, Australia) and I am very happy with the program after using Destinator PN and having seen Co-Pilot. It also one of the best supported products I have found when searching the net. TTN6 does take a littel time to start with the 200MHz processor, however it is worth the wait.
I have had other mates join my thinking after seeing my set-up. I hope this little insight gives anybody else ideas if you are looking at using your device to assit make your life easier.
TACK
Does anyone have any suggestions from first hand experience? I have a GlobalSat BT-359 from my soon to be departed Nokia e61.
I've tried a few shareware apps for 'off road' stuff, hilwalking, etc. Useful for limited applications.
For road navigation.. Tomtom all the way for me Now using Navigator 6 with the Tomtom BT GPS. Its not the cheapest, but there are good deals out there and it works well.
I currently use tomtom6 but have used destinator in the past and its my prefered. This is in australia and the tomtom maps are not as detailed but they are more customizable with different voices and point of intererst etc. i believe the maps are done from local providers so tomtom for the states might be better.
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
I'm going to try Wayfinder on a 5 day free trial for a project I have. I'll post results next week.
iNav iGuidance in my opinion
I've tried TomTom, iGuidance and iGo and my favorite by far is iGo.
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
I use TomTom for road navigatoin and Anquet for off road (walking, and cycling)
Anquet is pricy! but it has OS mapping available for the entire UK, (and i believe its this OS map data thats has enforced the high price. most of the the UK is at 1/25k Which is idea for walking, (you can see trees marked and field boundrys.
The mapping app for the PPC in the early version was poor but the newer stuff is pretty good.
That said i have recently installed Gmaps. Google Maps free PPC app, if your in a 3G area its really quite fast to load, and being able to see satalite images (if the res is good enough where you are) is pretty cool. Driving in my car with it drawing Satalite photos clear enough to see cars on makes you feel like Jack Bower!
Gmaps will do point to point navigation too, and in the US it can pick up traffic infomation.
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
5: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
6: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
7: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
Finally, I worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product.
The bottom line is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I go back to Rt66? Maybe but I need to check out the other map on0board applications first.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
RemE said:
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
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I am running iGo on WM6 and it's flawless.
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I have had start-up freezes with Tomtom, but seems fine at the moment. I am using Black 3.0 ROM.
kwan said:
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I had the same problem with TomTom 5 and Windows Mobile 5. When I upgraded the phone to Windows Mobile 6 TomTom ran super fast.
FYI TomTom 6 is even faster!~~
I tried TomTom6 for my trip down to New york, and Atlantic City all I can say its the best GPS software I've used period
it was paired it with i.Trek M5 GPS receiver
I use tomtom 6.03 on LVSW's WM6 ROM. in a word, WOW! awesome program, fast, and optimised for PDA use while driving.
yvrRome said:
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
When it's about car navigation, I can recommend Tom Tom 6. I've tried Destinator, which I found more flexible, but the actual location dragged about 200meters so after I had driven past my exit did the arrow come to the spot.
Missed so many turns I ditched that POS.
I have used Route 66 on P910i, which is better than Destinator but doesn't give as much coverage of Finland as Tom tom 6.
stewcp said:
Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
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Look at here
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Buy+NavNGo&meta=
and the review of the iGO is here :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/iGo2006.php
and also take a look at theirs forum for usable tips how to configure voice commands for your satisfaction :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modul...opic&t=41654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Igo is def the best however it doesn't seem to work with wm6, goes really slow and eats up memory till you need to reset. Unfortunately I can't test it on my hermes as they don't do a microsd version.
I spoke to the tech guys there, who said that it worked, however I am not convinced as it still isn't on their list of compatible OS's.
So will adopt the wait and see.
Plus its locked to the card so sucks if you have more than one device, like I do.
Wayfinder offers a free 5 day trial so I decided to give it a test run. Here is my experience:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up. Pairing it with a GlobalSat BT-359 took a few atempts also before Wayfinder saw it.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. It took over 10 minutes to download the data. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application. This actually happened to me about 1/2 mile from my home which is a dead zone. Glad I know how to get there on my own...
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 is not perfect and had some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I buy Rt66? Maybe but I think I need to check out the other map on-board applications first. GPS software may be the most expensive mobile application out there. It would be nice if someone got it right but maybe this type of product is just too complex.
Lyle
Problem is that you can't preload maps onto a Windows Mobile unit, like you can with other units. So if datatraffic fails you are screwed. I used it on an UIQ device and there it is possible to store maps on a storagecard.
Also their new Version 7 is out for many devices but not Windows Mobile...
Hmmmmm...
Rt66 loads maps onto the card and they offer a WM version. I also believe that TomTom5 & 6 do the same.
Lyle
Wayfinder was a good choice for my Sony Ericsson P900 as it gave me full UK GPS which I wouldn't of otherwise got as the memory cards it supported where too small to store national maps. Wayfinder is designed to constantly download tiny bits of maps as it needs.
I did find that the amount of download was very small, but it still cost money in GPRS every time you used it and there was a yearly subscription fee for the maps on top of the software cost.
For the Hermes it seems a bit pointless though, as it supports memory sticks large enough to store full maps and the processing can support more advanced software.
It's a good bit of software for smartphones, it's just that's it's not really designed for Windows Mobile PDA's
I've tried Telenav - not impressed, at least not enough to pay $10 a month.
Can anyone recommend any 3rd party GPS apps that are known to work with the Radar? I've heard Navigon doesn't work because of the lack of compass, but I don't have first hand experience so that statement could be wrong.
Any feedback is appreciated!
try this....
Hi there...
Try "Turn by Turn" Navigation.
It's free/trial, as long as you don't ask for directions...
Y.
Navigon works great and well worth the price. Plus the new version lets you download only the maps you need, taking up only about ~300mb of space.
Because of gps tracking, a compass isn't really needed. The map rotates with each turn I make.
Is gmaps pro worth buying? I came from an hd2 with android to this phone and not being able to find bus directions is a pain
Does anyone know of a navigon trial version. Had copilot7 on my touch hd, stupidly assumed I could install on radar...sadly mango is not best supported os, and most devs now concentrating on iPhone and android....grrrr. Still an iPhone hater and love windows, so need a new choice. Also heard that navigon doesn't work on radar coz of lack of compass, but is shown as supported on navigon website...just want to check it out b4 I commit to buy, as UK version is staggering £72 :-/
Anyone try Garmin?
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Does anyone know of a navigon trial version. Had copilot7 on my touch hd, stupidly assumed I could install on radar...sadly mango is not best supported os, and most devs now concentrating on iPhone and android....grrrr. Still an iPhone hater and love windows, so need a new choice. Also heard that navigon doesn't work on radar coz of lack of compass, but is shown as supported on navigon website...just want to check it out b4 I commit to buy, as UK version is staggering £72 :-/
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Hmm, weird. I thought I replied to this thread already but I guess not, hah.
I can confirm that Navigon works wonderfully on the Radar, even without the digital compass. It tracks awesomely and quickly and when I turn in the car, it's able to detect via gps that I'm turning as well, and the navigation is seamless.
I also believe there is a Navigon trial, but it's only a simulation to play with routes and stuff and you can't actually use it to navigate.
guyhoang said:
Anyone try Garmin?
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Have tried and own Garmin.. in some ways wish I would have gone with Navigon, but Garmin has been doing some updates..... aside from letting me download maps while on my wifi... The app is fantastic. The new update is slick. It looks to me like Garmin is developing on WP7 and that is a huge bonus... not just a token effort then poof they are gone like Intuit.
HTC Locations is now a full GPS app
Ok guys, here's some fresh news: HTC Locations was upgraded today to a full GPS navigation software. It includes downloadable maps of all countries, offline routing, turn by turn voice navigation in any language, speed cameras, points of interest, etc. So go ahead, upgrade and give it a try!
Having used all available GPS software (navigon, nokia drive, turn by turn, garmin etc) i must say i'm impressed with this one. This is the only GPS navigation software so far that planned some known routes exactly as i would plan them. I checked it out with Data turned off and it seems to plan routes and navigate 100% offline.
The only thing that seems to be missing, at least in my language, is Text To Speech. Also, voice navigation and speed cameras are subscription-based. They will be free for the first month and then you will be required to purchase them.
Yes! It works great, but we got one bad thing - one month trial....
How do you install Navigon to HTC Radar...does it have to be sideloaded to dev unlocked phone....cos i have been reading all about that, and have to say....woah...I think having just shelled out 500 for the phone, i would have expected to at least be able to do more than sync with Zune, and be forced to use live services. Perhaps I should have researched the platform more before buying. Just assumed it would be as good as all the other winmo devices that i have had
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How do you install Navigon to HTC Radar...does it have to be sideloaded to dev unlocked phone
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You buy it from the marketplace. Anything else is stealing.
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all the other winmo devices that i have had
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Your Radar is not a "winmo device" and experiences you had with Windows Mobile should not be expected to inform Windows Phone ones.
Stealing
You miss my point.
I downloaded the navigon trial, 30 day, It says it has to be placed on memory card etc.
Downside....no memory card on Radar so, my question stands, how do you install it on HTC Radar?
I have no problem paying for decent sat nav for Radar....I had Co-Pilot on my HTC Touch Hd, and that was good. From what I have seen of Navigon, looks good also, but want to try before I spen £72 on it.
GPSOn turn by turn is fine, nice features with turn reminders flashing etc, but a 24 hour trial is hardly enough to determine whether it is worth £30.
My job requires daily driving all over the UK, and I just want to be able to put in postcode or address and forget it.
for $4 turn by is the best it also has satalite veiw
Have tried Navigon, Turn by Turn and HTC Locations.
The best one imo is HTC Locations IIRC ~29$ for life
+1 for htc locations