ATT 8525 New Tweaker - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Been cruzing around the site without posting for a couple of days reading wiki, posts..... BUT still confused about a couple of things
1. Do we have a latest & greatest Windows Mobile 6? There are sooooo many links and threads it is way to confusing. I just want to install it.
2. I have the ATT 8525 & cannot reprogram my buttons (PTT especially). I would like to reprogram a button to be a voice recorder. My old Siemens SX66 had a reocrder button & I used it quite often
3. Idea/Suggestion for those code writers out there: I have been using the built iin camera flash/led as a flashlight. Comes in real handy and is actually quite bright. Anyone know how or want to creat an app to turn the 8525 into a flashlight??
4. Why is there no pre installed back up/restore program to back up my device?? Can anyone recommend a good one?

Hold on let me put on my flame retardant suit, something tells me it's about to get hot in here.
Ok...All the things you mention have been done, the process is not complicated but it does take a bit of reading. What I would recommend is that you load schapps 3.60a rom you can get it here (this is a very good version of WM6)
http://rapidshare.com/files/50727307/Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.60a-0823_Full.exe.html
It is a good stable and feature full Rom that will do all the things your are asking about.
Go to the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes\
Read up about the hermes, particularly
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners
And don't take it personally when a bunch of people reply after me, with a bunch of sarcastic comments.
Good luck!

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WM2005 etc. Newbie Questions

Hi,
I'm the proud owner of a T-Mobile MDA II with vga camera. Half an hour ago I happend to find this interesting forum.
What is this Windows Mobile 2005? I've never heard of it. I searched the Microsoft website, but I didn't find anything.
I have no idea which OS is installed on my MDA... the ROM version is 1.72.01GER (in case that helps).
So... in case I want to upgrade my MDA.... what do I have to do, where do I get the files from etc. And, what is this upgrade all about? Is it a totally new OS, or what is it? I have no idea
Thanks for your help
Bye
*push*
Hi Bauer,
I too am a newbee. Just joined this forum about a month ago. If I may give you a clue ( though I'm not an expert in it), the Windows Mobile 2005 is supposed to be the next mobile phone OS from Microsoft. It is said to have many more user-friendly features than the one you are currently using. However it has not yet been officialy released in the market (I even doubt if its ready yet). But thanks to our great Buzz Lightyear (http://buzzdev.net) we are fortunate to get the taste of the new promised features. Buzz had managed to create his own version of the said OS and named it the Magneto. Why don't you try to drill further into other area of this forum or go to http://buzzdev.net. I'm sure you'll get the idea, and as it happened to me I'm sure you'll like it too. Good Luck.
Hi again Bauer,
Regarding the question as to where to get ROM upgrade, you can try this link http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=124&Itemid=32 to get the copy of the new ROM upgrade. However you are supposed to register yourself first to be able to access the link. There (and in this forum too) you will get a clear description & instruction for the ROM upgrade.
I would also like to get this opportunity to apologize to the forum (especially to Buzz and the development team) for not being polite enough to say 'thank you' for all the work you've done. I've had no significant problem with either the upgrading process or the tweaking around with both hardware and software (incl. 3rd parties). Everything works fine with my machine since day one I did the upgrade. I love the work. Thank you all, and have a nice day.
Hi Bauer,
Spend time reading the wiki site too which will provide you with a lot of background about your new toy and the sort of things you can tweak/ develop or pick up that others have done.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Also learn to use the search function of this website as you can find most of the answers for yourself without relying upon good folk to give the same advice to the next newbee in the queue asking the same questions ('nuff said, we've all been newbees at sometime).
Once you've read relevant parts of the wiki and are comfortable that you want to risk changing your ROM (there are numerous pitfalls you risk (e.g. warrantee invalidation) and ultimately totally killing your machine if you have two left feet/ power surge/ massive bad luck etc) search these forums will educate you to the experiences of others developing/ beta testing/ exploring. Buzz's versions of WM5 are narrated a:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23151&highlight=
Remember to pay due homage to all his hard work.
Beyond that enjoy.
Viel Glück - Mallow1

I don't have the Hermes yet, but I'm already so lost on this forum...

I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...

a couple of stupid questions and hopefully a few good ones...

hi all,
i'm new to the whole WM world....i just got my mogul before new years and i have to say i love it...i have been envisioning the days when computers would be carried in our pockets ever since i got a beeper in high school...now that day is here...
before i ask my questions, i want you guys to know that i am no dummy when it comes to computers...i am a software engineer and have completed and am currently working on multiple government contracts. if i had to declare specialization, i guess i would be considered a J2EE guy....but i'm very sound in theory and can/have adapted to numerous langs and platforms. hopefully, if i get a lull sometime soon, i can contribute to this community.
ok, here we go.
1. what is prl?
2. i remember reading somewhere that something(i want to say it was relocking after flashing a custom ROM) was either not possible or very hard to do with windows vista.....my only windows box is running vista....am i going to run into trouble down the line if i move to DCD's clean wm6.1 rom and want to , say, flash the official sprint release when it drops next month?
3. what is the pagepool? WM version of swapspace?
4. i've read a lot about kitchens and cooking roms, but i'm still missing something....i understand cooking a rom is essentially building an image...but i'm still a little hazy on what the OEMizer is...if i had to guess, it takes normal installs(CABs) and groups them for a post flash install in batch...like the "Sprint Customization" that executes after flashing an official sprint rom....correct?
5. for all you devs and hackers that are putting together custom roms, do you have an emulator/vm for our phones that you test you roms in before flashing?....am i just missing the fact that that is part of a "kitchen"?
i'm sure i'll have more questions in the future, but this is a good starting point...please only answer the questions you KNOW the answers to. no information is better then false information. thanks in advance.
yerp
no takers yet?....
1. A google search for PRL turned up this.
2. I'm running Vista and have no problems. You might need to uncheck the enhanced services bos in USB to PC to be able to sync but other then that I do everything from my Vista box.
3. Another Google search for pagepool turned up this.
4. No. It creates files that able to be used when making a kitchen. This way your programs are in ROM and dont need to be installed again when you hard reset. A search of this forum would have lead to several threads to read about this.
5. Nope. You flash your phone. If it doesn't work you try again.
Please do a little searching on the forums and a lot of reading before you start doing this. It will prevent newb questions and make your life a whole lot easier.
a couple days ago i was asking the same questions.
i have my phone working now, but i didnt bother with vista, i used my dads pc, which was running xp, worked first try without playing with any settings.
thanks for the answers blaze!
sorry for posting Qs that were seemingly so simple to find the answers too, but the disclaimer was in the title...i knew i could find them with some searching, and believe me, i've been reading about this stuff on my free time pretty much non-stop since i got this phone....unfortunately, free time is scarce right about now....
anyways, thanks again....your info/links have saved me tons of time and it is greatly appreciated!
yerp

help me help myself

hi all,
so ive been using pdas for a few years now, had a kaiser loved it learned loads ie how to flash different roms to it apps etc great stuff,
moved over to the touch pro, wow amazing device again rand some roms on it found one i loves (we miss you Romeos!)
now im deciding that i want to learn a little more about the under the hood actions in terms of cooking, the os, all the weird terms ive read in different posts which totally overwhelms me with info,
now allot of people will say "search the forums" which indeed is the way i need to go, my only problem is working out where to begin, again the wiki is a great place to start, but unsure of what to read up and understand first
could some one give me a few pointers, i come from an IT background mainly networking but have done a few different things so im pretty confident i can pick it up quite quickly (i run linux at home at managed to pick it up really quickly)
so my question is. for some one trying to learn about the operating system in terms of cooking one for them selves, where would be the best place to start?
if any one of you amazingly gifted people could point me in the right place that would be amazing,
thank you very much
mousey
Download a kitchen and start playing. I used Proven kitchen the first time. It was very easy to use. I have also used Da_G's kitchen. Again, very easy to use and both contain many packages to get you started. It's just a matter of playing with the options then.
thanks for that yeah am now looking to do that however i was looking for maybe threads discussing it i see things like aku mentioned and builds etc and dont really understand, im a reader and like to read up and understand technical info before playing however sometimes you just need to do it so will take your point
thanks
@annonymouse:
I assume you have a GSM Raphael. I would suggest starting with the following Wiki page(s):
HTC Raphael
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
I started off with the following kitchen:
Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen
I put a tutorial together for that kitchen to help other newcomers "ramp up" quickly. The tutorial includes several links to important threads that will help you get better acquainted with some of the aspects of Windows Mobile.
HTH,
hi thanks for the links ive read the wiki page earlier but am at work so mearly glossed however thats not enough so will sit at home and divulge,
will also check the link out for the kitchen
thanks allot i appreciate the help

noob retard needs help

ban me now.
i know i know, any hi! i'm new thread deserves beatings, and whilst i'm fully aware i'm tempting the wrath of you all by doing this....... but i don't know where else to look.
i got a htc hero 24hrs ago on orange (uk). upgrade from a sony k850i so i have never had a smartphone before. i have no idea what i'm doing with it.
i've looked but not found a RTFM page yet, or i am that retarded that i can't even find it. what i can find contradicts what i've previously read so i though i'd ask you lot....
anyway - grovelling apologies aside:
1) rooting - is there one simple way to do this, so far i have found 4 processes and don't know which ones to trust.
2) ROM's - finally found out how to get software for the phone-(shouldn't there have been a disk with the phone?) and have installed active sync. i have just downloaded:
RUU_Herrange_UK_2.73.61.5_release_signed_NoDriver
is that the best/most recent ROM? if not, what is?
i guess i dont know enough about the phone to know the differences and therefore where to start. does rooting your phone allow you to get access to other apps like cydia and icy for the iphone do for example? whats the point, apart from to enable read/write access on the SD card (whats the biggest SD Card a Hero will take by the way?)
3) radios? what difference does it make if i'm listening to queen or queens of the stone age lol. seriously, whats the score here and where do i look for noob info?
help me. people with iphones are telling me i did a bad thing getting a hero. make me wise in the ways of the droid.
please and thank you.
Hi mate,
I am no expert as I have only had my Hero a week and have come from winmo. But I have rooted my phone and installed a rom and it was dead easy.
1. Follow this video - http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-root-your-htc-hero-in-one-click/ where he says to unzip or extract the cm-hero-recovery.img file all he means is find it on your pc and just copy that file to the SDCard.
I would also recommend doing a backup after rooting your phone from that video. To do this turn ur phone off, then hold the home and power button together and that will get you into the recovery area, then just select the nandroid backup option.
2. I have used the Modaco rom and have had no problems at all with it, not sure if its better than the orange one though sorry.
3. When people talk about the radio file for the Hero they are talking about a file that enables the phone to recieve the mobile phone signal, it also enables the phone to recieve a wi fi signal etc. I even think it does GPS, basically these can be tweaked to get better reception, thus you can update them. I really hope that made sense lol and hope you get what i mean.
4. Oh and if you want to put a new ROM on ur phone then follow this video - http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-hero/
If not just pm me lol.
brilliant - thank you.
is there a list of available ROM's for the hero anywhere and a list of what they do? ie benefits rather than a bunch of files names that have tweeked - they make no sence to me.
i dont know how you'd weigh one ROM up against another, to me it's like comparing chinese and japanese when you speak neither !
also is there an alternative marketplace, i know apple iphone has icy and cydia. i dont want warez just wondering if there's an alt. community as apple have out there (i'm thinking you guys are 'it' lol)
Don't think there is a list of ROM's as tbh the only good one around is the Modaco one. There is an Orange one out but I think people still rate the Modaco one as better, but I could be wrong in that. If you go for the Modaco one though you won't regret it.
As far as I know there is no other marketplace.
If you get into any problems in rooting and putting a ROM on ur Hero just pm me.

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