Problem:
use RUUWrapper.exe to Updata, final step, then Phone Screen stays in 0%, the RUU programs shows a 302 Error. when I did what it told me to, everythings happened again.
First happened when I updata my Radio from 1.51.00.00 to 1.47.00.00
and happened again when I updata the ROM (OS only)
Q:
1. How to solve this?
2. After I upgrade the Radio to 1.51.00.00 I can't hear the others clearly when pick up a phone. try to up the volume, but useless, which version will be OK?
3. any REG modify solution?
I try to modify the REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER ->
ControlPanel ->
SoundCategories ->
InCall ->
InitVol ->
DWORD Data
6 to 9
but seems no change
I had the same problem and most likely noone will help you on this board.... I read the forum, then asked for help and still no educated replies... I feel like this forum is run by HTC producers and they make you brick the phone and force you to and go buy a new one !!!
hanissusa said:
I feel like this forum is run by HTC producers and they make you brick the phone and force you to and go buy a new one !!!
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This thread was hardly 1 hour old and you make a rather rude statement. This forum is supported by volunteers, not people that sit around all day waiting for posts to come in and find a solution that drops out of no-where.
hanissusa said:
I had the same problem and most likely noone will help you on this board.... I read the forum, then asked for help and still no educated replies... I feel like this forum is run by HTC producers and they make you brick the phone and force you to and go buy a new one !!!
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You are not going to make any friends this way mate. If you want quick solutions then read all the material that's on here and search for the answer yourself.
If you don't want problems then leave your phone in its standard state.
WB
@camus_dvd: have you checked out the wiki? There may be a solution there. If not, you need to give us more info?
Have you ever successfully flashed before?
Give us Versions? Windows, ActiveSync, .NET, ROM, RUUWrapper (e.g. is it the custom or a standard shipped), etc.
Did you try removing the battery for a couple minutes?
Did you try connecting while in bootloader mode, instead of in normal state? (e.g. put phone in BL, THEN attached USB, then run updater)?
These answers will help us help you.
Oh, and about the volume issue, try using the google search link in my sig to search the forum for "hermes low volume tweak" or something like that. I had a similar problem, but cannot remember the tweak. I do not THINK It was the one you posted.
Heck - onew final edit. I got curious and did the searching. You will find a thread HERE and it references a tweak in the wiki HERE HERE . Hope this helps.
@hanissusa: sorry you did not get any "intelligent" answers. If you are unhappy, you are not a prisoner here.
If you want quick solutions then read all the material that's on here
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I spent 3 days reading the forum, trying all kinds of methods to unbrick it, however it still dead. Is it considered a quick solution ?
Anyways, I successfully flashed my device and made SUPER CID, so its fully unlocked. Thats the only flash I have done prior to upgrading the radio bootloader. I hold 2 computer science degrees and I could understand most of the stuff discussed on this forum, however it didnt solve the problem.
The reason I tried to flash my radio bootloader is because suddenly the phone started to freeze(about every 30 mins). I thought may be the operator has a new radio version so I need to upgrade in order to get the best connection and most importantly never have my phone freezed again.
Did you try removing the battery for a couple minutes?
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Tried about 20 times, still unable to flash radio rom with any of the available versions. Always freezes at 0% thru RUU, if I use SD card method freezes in the 10-15% range. I am able to flash everythin, including SPL, operating system, but not the radio rom !!!
Did you try connecting while in bootloader mode, instead of in normal state? (e.g. put phone in BL, THEN attached USB, then run updater)?
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Tried that as well. Tried using MMTY, checksum gives me radio error.
sorry you did not get any "intelligent" answers
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I got several answers of this type:
"Go read Wiki"
"Go try this method"
and I have done all of it and nothing helped the problem.
You can consider above answers very intelligent, however I did not get a single anser form POF or Olipro - people who actually created this software and know most of the tricks.
for me same problem, only that i can't use my device anymore( : I tried to install another rom, Hermes_WM6_WWE_vp3G_v3[1].61.0_ATT_Full.rar and Touch_I_interface_beta.zip and crashed. and now, i enter in bootloader, if i want to make super cid it tells me to connect the pda even if is connected. and if i try to install other roms is stuck on 0%
hanissusa said:
I spent 3 days reading the forum, trying all kinds of methods to unbrick it, however it still dead. Is it considered a quick solution ?
Anyways, I successfully flashed my device and made SUPER CID, so its fully unlocked. Thats the only flash I have done prior to upgrading the radio bootloader. I hold 2 computer science degrees and I could understand most of the stuff discussed on this forum, however it didnt solve the problem.
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I wonder what kind of institution gave you said degrees? I have a degree in Japanese and Linguistics but I suck at both.
hanissusa said:
"flashed my device and made super CID, so its fully unlocked"
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Flashed and superCID does NOT mean fully unlocked. If you can read programming and or networking text books, I don't understand what is so hard about the wiki?
If you read everything and actually tried to understand it all, then you would know that flashing the radio is inherently dangerous and that 9/10 times the radio is not the issue.
camus_dvd said:
Problem:
use RUUWrapper.exe to Updata, final step, then Phone Screen stays in 0%, the RUU programs shows a 302 Error. when I did what it told me to, everythings happened again.
First happened when I updata my Radio from 1.51.00.00 to 1.47.00.00
and happened again when I updata the ROM (OS only)
Q:
1. How to solve this?
2. After I upgrade the Radio to 1.51.00.00 I can't hear the others clearly when pick up a phone. try to up the volume, but useless, which version will be OK?
3. any REG modify solution?
I try to modify the REG
HKEY_CURRENT_USER ->
ControlPanel ->
SoundCategories ->
InCall ->
InitVol ->
DWORD Data
6 to 9
but seems no change
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Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332565
then here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1177210&postcount=5
or from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
then read the stickies and do a search.... it's all been discussed before
does exists any way to upgrade my dead tytn from storage card? I have an Qtek S200 and a HTC P3300 (if i can use them to restore my dead tytn). please all. I don't know what to do with him
Is there a senior, experienced member on this forum from London, UK ? Please help me fix the radio, beers and drinks are on me.
ady_uaic said:
does exists any way to upgrade my dead tytn from storage card? I have an Qtek S200 and a HTC P3300 (if i can use them to restore my dead tytn). please all. I don't know what to do with him
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Is this what you are looking for?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing
@hanissusa,
Why don't you just send your device back to the repair centre, foot the bill, and put it all down to experience? You may have a hardware problem that nothing on here might solve.
You might be better off going down that route than going through the pain of trying to sort it and not getting anywhere. Also stops you p**sing people off on here. You can't claim that just because you have had a bad experience we should all stop flashing our devices.
We are all aware of the risks and if we can't fix it then its put your hand in your pocket time and send it back to be repaired.
Good luck with it; hope it all works out.
WB
thx a lot. I will try it, 'cause i'm tired to use all kind of stufs
my first SPL was 1.03 but after a try of upgrading ROM it was modifed in 2.03 and i think this is the problem. does anyone knows how to modify it?
how can i downgrade my SPL ?
pi$$ing people off ? hey chill back I am just giving experienced advice to other people, just as you do. The fact that our opinions are different does not mean that you are right and I am wrong.
Anyways, I have T-Mobile MDA, as far as I udnerstood HTC repair would not care to fix it ?
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pi$$ing people off ? hey chill back I am just giving experienced advice to other people, just as you do. The fact that our opinions are different does not mean that you are right and I am wrong.
Anyways, I have T-Mobile MDA, as far as I udnerstood HTC repair would not care to fix it ?
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Have you called the repair centre to see whether they will fix it or not? Your worse case scenario is that they say no. There again they might say yes, especially if you are willing to foot the bill, or put you in contact with another company who can sort it out for you.
I really do hope you can get it fixed; however I think you have started out on the wrong footing on this board and you may well find that people on here now just don't want to help you out (please don't shoot the messenger).
Good luck with it.
Cheers
WB
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how can i downgrade my SPL ?
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You can't without a running OS setuped on your device. If you don't have the HardSPL you should try to flash with the default flasher AND a rom matching your CID.
If there is a rom matching your CID out you may have quite good chance to get your hermes back to live. Toying without hardspl is a really bad thing
and that hardSPL how can i do it?
Have you called the repair centre to see whether they will fix it or not?
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Which centre should I call if I live in London, UK ? Maybe somebody wants to help me fix this and get paid ?
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No worries I haven't bricked my phone yet.
I bought a G4 Cingular 8125 that was advertised as unlocked. I know its sim-unlocked at least because i'm using it w/ a t-mobile sim card.
Trying to figure out if it is CID-Unlocked. How do you do this? I've ran EnableRapi and Cert_SPCS, rebooting after each and then tried to use the shell tool to even just view the current ROM info... all it shows in Comments is "This is a custom rom". Have also tried to use Wizard Service Tool to view information about my Wizard but to no avial I can't seem to get that program to run.
Any suggestions? I'm lost right now because everything I try doens't seem to get me anywhere. Only thing I haven't tried is running the Rom Updater Utility with a new Rom, as that seems my only option left to see if its unlocked or not right?
Three Key Topics - MUST READ - and a word or two
Make sure ... Is it a G3 or a G4? Soft reset if you don't know for sure, and look for the 0001 on the end of the IPL./SPL version numbers.
three zeros and a digit on the end - G4
less than 3 zeros-digit - G3.
Ket Reading - How to tell - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
G4 -- it's very unlikely to be CIDunlocked - you can only do it by paying imei-check for the software and unique key .. and it's unlikely the previous owner did that without telling you about it - it's a key selling point !! But nowadays it's not so vital anyway. The ShellTool method works perfectly IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY - and will allow you to change ROMS without threatening the sanity of your bootloader ... I've done it three tinmes so far.
Key Reading Shelltool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
G3 -- just search the forum for LokiWiz and unlock it yourself ... CAREFULLY .. if its already unlocked, doing it twice won't kill it.
Key reading - the first post and the links in it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Yes I did read almost everything. I have a G4 My IPL/SPL is 2.25.0001 so yes its a G4...
I've read each item you posted about 3 times each. Even the bs responses to them I read not just the first page or so. I've also read the faria install tutorial and tried that. I've also done the shell tool tutorials and i'll explain the problem that arises.
Also EVERY time I follow the directions EXACTLY on shelltool nothing happens.
I've installed both Cert_SPCS, and EnableRapi on the phone then reset it. Once it boots back I turn on flight mode to disable the radio then open shell tools and click Get ROM info and nothing comes up. I'm assuming that the ROM info is from the phone? or is it from the nk.nbf of the rom you want to put on the phone?
Then just to see what happens extract takes about 10 seconds to complete and flash takes about 21 seconds to compete. The phone is connected to active sync so not sure whats up with it but oh well. I put on Wizard Love and it does what I was trying to accomplish. Still would like to try out a WM6 Rom to see the differences but not the big of a deal to me anymore.
Also if you read my post... I bought my phone from craigslist... advertised as unlocked. Trust me when you meet a guy you can barely understand for a phone that costs $220 you don't wanna sit around in his car and idle chit chat. Specially in the area that we met. When I asked the guy if it was fully unlocked he said yes or it should be because I paid for it. Also my phone isn't branded with cingular 8125... not sure if it makes a difference but it is branded with HTC
have a G4 My IPL/SPL is 2.25.0001 so yes its a G4...
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It's a G4 - so it's unlikely to be CID unlocked whatever the vendor told you. Proceed as though it is CID locked.
I've installed both Cert_SPCS, and EnableRapi on the phone then reset it.
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Sorry to ask a dumb question, but I assume you installed AND executed Cert_SPCS, and EnableRapi ??
Once it boots back I turn on flight mode to disable the radio then open shell tools and click Get ROM info and nothing comes up. I'm assuming that the ROM info is from the phone? or is it from the nk.nbf of the rom you want to put on the phone?
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It's from the nk.nbf rom file you put into the same dir as shelltool. If its there, you'll get the info, if it isn't - you didn't read the instructions properly ...
Then just to see what happens extract takes about 10 seconds to complete and flash takes about 21 seconds to compete. The phone is connected to active sync so not sure whats up with it but oh well. I put on Wizard Love and it does what I was trying to accomplish. Still would like to try out a WM6 Rom to see the differences but not the big of a deal to me anymore.
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I had the fast flash problem too. Turned out to be a corrupt ROM file. Get one of the ROMs from the list that's regularly posted around the forum. Alternatively I used the one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762 this thread. Don't forget to use the password when you unpack it !!
I'm afraid that's the best I can do as far as help is concerned .. good luck .. it worked for me
Please dont tell me to read the other threads on this issue. Your better off skipping this topic and moving on to the next. I preffer this to go untouched with no replies than to have smart ass comments. Ive been reading pages and pages on how to do this for weeks with no luck. Theres about a few dozen options and with all the suggestions I have no idea where to start, nor what programs to download first, understand what these terms mean, etc. Maybe this isnt my cup of tea and I shouldnt even be attempting this but thats neither here nor there cause the fact of the matter is I screwed things up. Now Im looking for some help from the community.
Its getting real expensive and I need a serious expert who has patience and is very thurough. This is my second unit and I still have the 1st one that is still bricked as well. This is the situation for both. When I go to setting>system>device info, there was no radio version, no protocol version, no IMEI, and the call duration info was zero. I was able to use both units for thier PDA functions but not the phone prtion. I was attempting to SIM unlock and SuperCid em both. Now they are both stuck in bootloader. Im not sure what went wrong but I have done 3 other 8525's with success also updated roms and reverted back and no problems. I just cant seem to get the bricking undone. Now Ive done tutorials on housing swaps, step by step and provided pics as well. You know what, people still ask how to do it. Its a fact guys. some people just need a little more direction than others. What Im trying to say is Im looking for help not criticism, Im a grown man and the last thing I need is for some young punk to flame me,or telling me to read cause Its already been done. I can easily buy another phone but Im willing to learn how to get out of this bricking crap. So its back to reading. TIA
Heres How You Do It
I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
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I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
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Really??? This seems too easy. I'll try anything at this point. So you say its not bricked,just stuck in bootloader? So there is hope? Thats def bice to hear. I'll give it a shot. Thanks
LOL. Tried and and same problem. It sounded too good to be true. Thanks for the tip though
I'm not trying to be smart (believe me, I'm not equipped to do that!) just trying to help determine the exact state so that someone may be better able to help.
You say the phone's are stuck in bootloader, but that you're able to look at the device info on them, and use them for their PDA side. I always thought stuck in bootloader meant that when you switched it on, it came up with the multi-coloured bars but got no further (as if you'd reset it while holding the power and side OK button). Do you mean that the phone's work as normal but have no PHONE side of things, or can you get no further than the bootloader screen when trying to start them up?
Like I said, not trying to split hais just trying to get the exact symptoms for someone cleverer than me to help.
OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
1. Which is your SPL version?
Put your hermes in bootloader mode (side ok + power button + softreset), the SPL version appears in yellow letters on the upper side
2. Which is your radio bootloader (HTC_BOOT) version?
If your radio version is <=1.27 your HTC_BOOT is 0106 or 0107, the only exception is Softbank X01HT 1.14 radio which has HTC_BOOT 0108
If your radio version is >= 1.30 your HTC_BOOT is 0108
If you don't know which is HTC_BOOT, but you have bootloader 1.01 MFG, 1.10.Oli or 1.04 you can access to the radio bootloader using the command 'rtask a', then type 'rversion' and hit enter (you won't see anything in the screen when you type rversion, because the radio bootloader has no echo, this is normal).
3. Is your device able to boot Windows Mobile OS?
This one is easy: If can you see your today screen and use your phone as a PDA means you can boot OS. If you only see the splash screen, bootloader screen (tri-color) or windows mobile splash screen you can't boot OS.
4. Do you see "No GSM" message in red letters on the first splash screen?
Reset your hermes, you will see some numbers and letters appear in red and disappear after a few seconds... your radio version is there, but if your radio is corrupted for some reason, you will see 'No GSM'.
5. Does your OS rom have KITL enabled?
Hold COMM MANAGER and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus, if you see the message "Select KITL Transport" your OS rom has KITL enabled, otherwise not.
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Please post the answers back here when you are done.
Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Yeah, but, if you used V3a to unlock it, you actually got Oli's BL as part of the deal--hence why you can unbrick it easily!
WELP no smartass comments HUH? Well if you ****ed up 2 phones like this you really must be doing something wrong there buddy. your phone is not stuck in bootloader if you can see the device info thats for damn sure. first thing load SPLV7 on your phone then flash a a complete ROM including radio and OS and then you should be all fixed and if that dont work there is a WHOLE thread just for BRICKED phones so go read like you said you whrere doing.... To me its sounds like you dont have a clue what your doing since you have done this to 2 phones and if you did have a clue your first thing would have been to load SPLv7
so go enjoy your not really bricked bricks
and if i remember right your one of the fools that was making fun af elf because he charge people like you to fix phones over at hofo... so take your problem over there or call elf for some one on one and eat some ****....
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I gotta give you a lot of credit for that post. Me and a few other members had a bet that it would take less than an hour before the first idiot would surface, Thanks LOL. Who the hell is elf, and I would like to see the post that I had made making fun of anybody. If your gonna try to put someone on blast, back it up. Its assholes like you that a community can do without. Your a true idiot man. No1 needs you around here with that type of attitude. I dont blame you though, I blame your parents for having you. Your mom should have flushed the toilet when she had you then we wouldnt have a piece of **** like you in this world, shame on her. They should be ashamed of themselves for they way you have turned out.
I was able to do all the PDA functions prior to gettting my phones stuck in bootloader. That is were I am now. I got myself stuck in bootloader while trying to load HardSPLv7. I had not done any type of mods or upgrades prior to doing this.
Elf, I want you and that moron to post topics if me bashing you, I cant imagine me doing that. I am 30+ years of age, 3 children and a beautiful wife. I dont have a lot of time, nor do I have the time or care to flame other on these forums. I know that I look to people here and other forums more than they will need me. So please back up that what you are saying and I make sure that I make it an effort to put in my sig that I am an idiot and that you are god. If this it was gets you thru the day, so be it. Just back them comments up. Its a bad tag to put on someone.
My phone reads on tri color screen
Herm100
IPL-1.01
HERM1
SPL-1.40. Olipro
I can do anything other than see this bootloader screen.
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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When I recieved the phone there was no radio version displayed nor was there a protocol version. I also noticed that there was no IMEI that was displyed under the device info. While I was attempting to load the HardSPLv7, that is when I got stuck.
Bro I need serious step by step instructions on this. I've taken all that had been posted about this stuff and a have a pile of info about it. Theres not a whole lot I can do in the boot mode si Im trying to make sure Im doing the steps properly. The info I have given is based on the 8525, I'll work on the TYTN after. Thanks
My appologies.. I just checked HoFo.. You were not one of the idiots on there, as far as I can tell..
Sorry.
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Appology accepted. Im not worried about man. I got other things to worry about.
Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
FLiPinoy9oNe6 said:
1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
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OK, right you need to flash ANY ROm that contains an OS only, DO NOT try flashing a ROM which has a radio or SPL etc...
Follow my WM5 Downgrade Guide, this will take you through the steps necessary, select the relevant ROMs by HTC and Cingular (found in the wiki).
If that works as desired then update to HArdSPL v7 for both devices then flash a new radio.
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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wont lock the thread since the guy needs help... but instead i will play janitor and clean it up... since some people will never learn to play nice...
More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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No sir, Ive got two computers working on this right now. One to look at replies and the other to do the update. I had to get a bite to eat so Im back at it. Im trying to connect to sync but not working. Im reading up again on this Sd card deal and mtty so Im trying.
Yes ofcourse i forgot, once you have rebuilt the nbh to make an OS only update (OS,Ext ROM and the 2 splashes) you cant update as normal because there is no activesync connection...the sd card technique is what you need to do. After the device can get into OS and connect over activesync you can do the rest (HardSPL and Radio).
ok mrvanx, after using device monitor I fianlly got a connection and tried downloading a rom. Process goes thru and at 12% it stops and gives me the 262 error message. I do wat it suggest when getting the message with sof reset and try again, still same error.
flash from a damn SDcard and be done with this **** man... your wasting time half assing around... flash an OS.nb from your card and then do all that was told to you from above... this is the only way you will get your hermes working again
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OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
Please post the answers back here when you are done.
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Sir please help me
1 HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.40.Olipro
2 - rite now dont show while OS is on
3 yes OS loads ok
4 (yes) No GSM shows while boot
m 05
s 04 No GSM
B 06 D 3.57
5 I can't find as comm manager button confused
Hi,
i have one bricked Hermes,and I've tried all the methods that i read ever and i explained completely here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1571302&postcount=1548 but no result.
yesterday i tried SD method with wm6 ROM that i downloaded from htc sit ,but i had this on my screen:
HERMIMG.nbh-
IPL - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
SPLASH2 - OK
EXTROM - OK
GSM -
OS -
Update In Progress...
it freezes at GSM!!i waited 45min,but nothing changed,then i take out the battery.
do you know why?and what can i do?
sorry for my bad English.
hamed_ppc said:
Hi,
i have one bricked Hermes,and I've tried all the methods that i read ever and i explained completely here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1571302&postcount=1548 but no result.
yesterday i tried SD method with wm6 ROM that i downloaded from htc sit ,but i had this on my screen:
HERMIMG.nbh-
IPL - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
SPLASH2 - OK
EXTROM - OK
GSM -
OS -
Update In Progress...
it freezes at GSM!!i waited 45min,but nothing changed,then i take out the battery.
do you know why?and what can i do?
sorry for my bad English.
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Hi I have the same problem, radio refuse to flash, something wrong with my radio chip, I have a OS but no gsm. "Welcome to the club" But, I don't know how to solve that problem.
eraserbabyboy said:
Hi I have the same problem, radio refuse to flash, something wrong with my radio chip, I have a OS but no gsm. "Welcome to the club" But, I don't know how to solve that problem.
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ok,we can continue this thread to find the solution,is there anybody knows how we can fix this problem??
is it a hardware problem??i wish it isn't.
hamed_ppc said:
ok,we can continue this thread to find the solution,is there anybody knows how we can fix this problem??
is it a hardware problem??i wish it isn't.
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I think that is hardware problem. I flash only OS, without radio and now my hermes work only as PDA, wi-fi and BT also work, but still no gsm.
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I think that is hardware problem. I flash only OS, without radio and now my hermes work only as PDA, wi-fi and BT also work, but still no gsm.
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ok,but how we can fix it?Should we replace something in our pda??
i want to know is it fixable or not??
hamed_ppc said:
ok,but how we can fix it?Should we replace something in our pda??
i want to know is it fixable or not??
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I don't know. In my country I have a htc services and they say to me that my motherboard must be replaced because is to hard to change only radio chip and they only change all motherboard. For 350 Eur(+some Eur) I can by new Tytn. Now I use my pda in my home (in toalet) via wireles to look internet. Work's fine, but sometimes freeze OS and I must do soft reset.
ok guys , i might found a temp solution or maybe it will work permenantely with some one , but i need some one who have spare time and steel nerves coz i'm sick and tired of trying many files and roms and radios .
so any one is willing to start this experiment with his hermes and his spare-time lets begin .
first of all i want to declare that this method revived my radio and i used my device for one day just fine receiving and making calls . then the next day i decided to make a hard reset to see if the radio will stay working , and the result was the radio was dead .
here we go .
1.flash you device with GM360 gold edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329282 don't ask why just try it .
2.after the phone is flashed with gm360 and working ok with no radio or "no gsm" messege now you should flash your phone with your device manufacturer WM5 ROM .
3. to flash WM5 rom you need to follow mr.vanx guide for safe WM5 downgrade . http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=26 here it is .
4. now after you've flashed WM5 successfully and your device is also working fine with it but still no radio or "no gsm" . you need to flash only radio to your device . no OS only the radio .
5. download this radio . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697 and unrar it on some folder . and don't flash it yet to your device .
6 download Olipro RUUwraper 5.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737 there u go.
7. now the files from step "5" which they are the radio 1.54 put the file ruuwrapper from step "6" in the same folder with them to start the radio upgrade using "RUUWrapper.exe" not "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" . when u run it you will have multiple choices , choose "Force Unsafe SSPL (not recommended)" . .
now the radio upgrade should go smoothly as it went for me the first time . after the radio upgrade is done u should be able to use ur radio fine .
now can some one take half the effort of me writing this long method and try it ? thanx for the feedback also .
good luck for all .
feedback
Just now I finished all, by your instruction, step by step. When do the last step, flashing radio rom it's stuck on 0%. Many thank's for help, but it does not work for me.
a-h-t1,
thx for your discription,I'll try your method as soon as i can(because ADSL isn't much available!!)
eraserbabyboy,
can you tell me when did this problem happen to you(i mean loosing GSM)??did it happen when you was flashing WM6 ROM??
I really want to know why this problem happen to me while i didn't have it before flashing??is flashing cause to a hardware problem???
eraserbabyboy,
can you tell me when did this problem happen to you(i mean loosing GSM)??did it happen when you was flashing WM6 ROM??
I really want to know why this problem happen to me while i didn't have it before flashing??is flashing cause to a hardware problem???[/QUOTE]
Hamed I dont know what's happened with my hermes, because I get him with the no gsm error. I have a bootloader 1.09 with enable kitl mode. In PB I lose many, many night to boot os but without sucess. And post many question here, but without answer, a-h-t1 is the first men who try to help and meny 10x for that.
So, before 2 week I send my hermes to Imei-check and before few days I get it back with bootloader 1.01 mfg and instruction from imei teamroblem_Description: The radio chip is faulty 100%. Now the handset is usable as PDA only (wifi + bluetooth working too), but not as a phone (the GSM module refuse to answer/flash).
DO NOT attempt to upgrade the firmware in the phone with a firmware which has RADIO upgrade, as it will put the handset back to the brick mode!!!
Model is SVP3100.[/COLOR][/COLOR]
After that I put the SPL 2.30 Olipro to prevent any future damage, and continuing to "play" and experiment, because I don't have more than, to loose. I have P3300 who work's very nice....
It's possible to boot any OS without radio. (I use nbh tool 1.01 to extract nbh file to nb and after make Ruu_signed but without radio).Also try metod via SD card and same to you, stop when try to flash radio. Also it's happened on 12-13%(independed of the rom version) when start full RUU upgrade. And when try to flashing only radio they stop on 0%. On 12-13% ruu upgrade try to flash radio in this moment, and this is the end. I am not sure is this hardware problems, but imei (I dont belived too much) said YES. In win OS I don't have a imei identification (in device info/identity) and of course radio version is blank. Sometimes happened that os blocked(freeze) or device just totaly go to power off mode and I must to do soft reset. Is any way to totaly disabled phone function in registry? I mean that freeze when phone try to find network or sim, but I am not shure. Last night I open my devices, and get out motherboard, just to see this famously radio chip. It's not possible in "home made" to change yourself this chip. Only if I have a more lucky and found some broken hermes with ok motherboard for 100-150 eur...
I hope that my info just little help to you to know "mystery" about our problems.
And one more time 10x to a-h-t1!
eraserbabyboy said:
Just now I finished all, by your instruction, step by step. When do the last step, flashing radio rom it's stuck on 0%. Many thank's for help, but it does not work for me.
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I just tried it and same result like you
but many thx for a-h-t1 and eraserbabyboy's help.now I want to try fix it in hardware way!!
but if anyone has idea about our problem please say here.i think it's going to be common problem,because i see many people in xda who has the same problem.
Read this, to see how I solve my problem. But I still have a hope, that it's not hardware problem and in the future I hope that someone will found software key to solve our corrupted radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338413
ok,i think it was almost three months ago that i had posted my last post!!
you know my problem and i feel it has became a common problem for poeple who have hermes,unfortunately.
last week,i found a service man who believed that my phone's problem is fixable.
so i gave my pda to him,and because he lives in another city,i returned to mine and waited for him.
yesterday i phoned him,and this is what he said to me:
"first,I tried software methods,but the result was nothing!then I disassembled the device and changed the piece of RF of your ppc.it hung first,but now it loads the windows and find the antenna too!!but immediatly after finding,it hangs."
he has used the Dopod's RF in my htc TyTN and thinks that this problem(hanging after finding the antenna) is because of not matched radiorom.
I have good feel about his say,and i'm trying to help him find the correct radio rom,because he is so busy and cant search the internet to find the radiorom.so I've mailed him the link of wiki's radio rom for hermes and I hope someday this tragedy will finish but i'm not sure.
if anyone have comment about this case please help us,specialy about the RF,because I don't know anything about the Radio Frequency.
I HAD the EXACT same problem I Hermes would get stuck at 11% EVERYtime I tried to flash the OS rom with WM6!! The upgrade process would start and then [email protected]! 11% and I would get ERROR 262 (loss of communication) No FIX anywhere, even with site full of "supposed Hermes Fanboys" Nothing NOBODY knows nothing bout this issue. BUT I think I have found a fix (I have recovered twice gonna do it 1 more time to confirm METHOD)
1a
Its called a 1a brick. Look in the sticky brick section. like 170+ pages of this issue. I believe I have the same device. No GSM/ no imei no radio. Can flash rom's all day long, as long as rom doesnt include GSM. Try to flash ANY GSM does nothing, let it sit 10hrs... Nice free PDA, till i can figure out the wiki & there must be hope for me. Till then my wiz100 keeps rocking. Like the 8525, but wanted it more as a phone then just pda.
nicknowsky said:
I HAD the EXACT same problem I Hermes would get stuck at 11% EVERYtime I tried to flash the OS rom with WM6!! The upgrade process would start and then [email protected]! 11% and I would get ERROR 262 (loss of communication) No FIX anywhere, even with site full of "supposed Hermes Fanboys" Nothing NOBODY knows nothing bout this issue. BUT I think I have found a fix (I have recovered twice gonna do it 1 more time to confirm METHOD)
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I hope you will fix your device,but when I read about your solution,I felt that guy who brought back to life your device,has just used a ROM whitout GSM,the way that we have been using since months ago.if I'm in mistake so tell us more.
The end of the Tragedy
o0o0k!!
as I've said in my post,the service man that I love! replaced the RF of my pda,but new problem was hanging after finding the antena!!
as he told me yesterday,he tried another used RF,but this time the TyTN's one and it worked) and there is no problem.so after 4 months nearly I can use my pda.
as soon as I can,I will go to get my device and test it myself.
be wait for my smooth experience!!
What is this???
replaced the RF of my pda
Andrey_ORIN said:
What is this???
replaced the RF of my pda
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its full name is RFSP=Radio Frequency Signal Processor.it's one of ICs on your Hermes mainboard.it needs a professional to replace.I'll explain more early.
but if you have same problem and have tried all of the the wiki methods then you can test my solution.
Hi to all. I solve my problem. Change myself motherboard. I buy second hand hermes with no working keyboard for 100eu (latter I solve even this problems,bad contact on flat cable)) and change the motherboard to my spv m3100. It's stupid to say that I solve this with some software, it's was hardware
faulty (or maybe not???) and I am very happy, because I can use my hermes again.
Now I have a one, my "old" motherboard (hermes) who working like pda, wi-fi and bluetooth also working, but without gsm. If any wish to do some experiment I am here, waiting for instruction. Also, I add some picture from the phase of changing motherboard.
Information for "experimental" hermes:
HERM 200
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.30.Olipro
Rom version:Schap's 4.00
Rom Date: 10/15/07
Radio version: none
Protocol version: none
ExtROM version: 3.60.20070822
No cid, no imei, can't flash radio (stuck in 0%)
Can't flash OS which contains radio (stuck in 12-13%)
Regards for all on this forum.
Hi,
how are you?
do you know is it possible to replace just radiochip to fix our hermes??
How I see, in "home made" it's not possible, because we don't have a special equipment for that operation. Even if you have, but where you can found this famously radio chip? If you wont, I can open my "experimental" Hermes and make a picture of all chip and send to you, but I think that on ftp you have all manuals and pictures with the name of each part. I use this manuals to safely open my hermes and myself change the motherboard.
If I understand you, your hermes working like PDA, without gsm. Do you have a same problem, that devices turn off yourself and until soft reset they don't wont to wake up? Also phone function working very slowly, sometimes it's not possible to activate connection manager...etc
And if you agree, please to continuing disscusion on this thread. Thank's.
eraserbabyboy said:
If I understand you, your hermes working like PDA, without gsm. Do you have a same problem, that devices turn off yourself and until soft reset they don't wont to wake up? Also phone function working very slowly, sometimes it's not possible to activate connection manager...etc
And if you agree, please to continuing disscusion on this thread. Thank's.
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yes,i have same problem(but when i downgraded it to wm5 it works better and faster!).and like you I still have hope that it's not a hardware problem and wish to find solution.next week I will send my PDA to a serviceman to know what is his idea (maybe it'll work).
hamed_ppc said:
yes,i have same problem(but when i downgraded it to wm5 it works better and faster!).and like you I still have hope that it's not a hardware problem and wish to find solution.next week I will send my PDA to a serviceman to know what is his idea (maybe it'll work).
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OK, I will waiting, and good luck.
Don't forget to inform us what's say serviceman....
Ok , i've joind the club of "no gsm" 3 months ago . and i've tried many many roms and radios and still no luck .
but in one try i've succeeded in flashing the radio to 100% and the radio worked very well and that night was 5 in the morning i danced on the desk when i saw it . i just couldn't belive it . i called my hermes 20 times from another mobile to hear the defult stupid WM5 ring tone , i missed it really
any way i couldn't believe my eyes , so i tried to do a hard reset to check if the radio will stay or go , it just vanished and again back NO GSM . i was disappointed really .
here's the way it succeeded with me and i was gonna post it for every one else as a solution but it happened with me once , and now it wont pass 0% .
here we go .
1.flash you device with GM360 gold edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329282 don't ask why just try it .
2.after the phone is flashed with gm360 and working ok with no radio or "no gsm" messege now you should flash your phone with your device manufacturer WM5 ROM .
3. to flash WM5 rom you need to follow mr.vanx guide for safe WM5 downgrade . http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?...27&Itemi d=26 here it is .
4. now after you've flashed WM5 successfully and your device is also working fine with it but still no radio or "no gsm" . you need to flash only radio to your device . no OS only the radio .
5. download this radio . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697 and unrar it on some folder . and don't flash it yet to your device .
6 download Olipro RUUwraper 5.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737 there u go.
7. now the files from step "5" which they are the radio 1.54 put the file ruuwrapper from step "6" in the same folder with them to start the radio upgrade using "RUUWrapper.exe" not "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" . when u run it you will have multiple choices , choose "Force Unsafe SSPL (not recommended)" . .
now the radio upgrade should go smoothly as it went for me the first time . after the radio upgrade is done u should be able to use ur radio fine .
now can some one take half the effort of me writing this long method and try it ? thanx for the feedback also .
good luck for all .
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i guess it was my one last lucky chance , and i blew it up with hard reset .
anyway the only solution right now for no gsm is to change motherboard unfortunatley
Nudge!!! :S
I lost my Radio today, also the IMEI is gone.
This morning it was working and this afternoon it just stopped, tried a hard reset, still nothing. Just tried to flash 1.54, but that didn't work, now trying 1.51 and i see the progress bar, but it stays at 0%
I will leave it this way at my computer and come back later, but it looks the radiorom is broken
I can flash everything except the radiopart, i really seems broken, i've tried flashing with different SPL versions including 2.60 olipro en SSPL.
Also the phone seems to be a lot slower.
But prior to this all the phone did hang often for the last few weeks, so i guess it was already starting to breakdown
i also have a almost similar experience, can anyone verify that the phone is already breaking down??
trion said:
I can flash everything except the radiopart, i really seems broken, i've tried flashing with different SPL versions including 2.60 olipro en SSPL.
Also the phone seems to be a lot slower.
But prior to this all the phone did hang often for the last few weeks, so i guess it was already starting to breakdown
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chicharon said:
i also have a almost similar experience, can anyone verify that the phone is already breaking down??
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What exactly is your problem? I've been noticing that about 70% of my calls fail or hang when I attempt to dial, when I try again they usually go through. I also have problems sending txt messages very often. Is my phone on its way out? I haven't even had this phone for a year.....pisses me off
eagercrow said:
What exactly is your problem? I've been noticing that about 70% of my calls fail or hang when I attempt to dial, when I try again they usually go through. I also have problems sending txt messages very often. Is my phone on its way out? U haven't even had this phone for a year.....pisses me off
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My phone started to hang a lot last week, just for a minute and then come back again, also losing the phone connection. First i thought it was some software i installed. New rom, problem stayed the same.
And then yesterday i totaly lost the radio part, can't flash it in any way, but the phone still seems a lot slower then normal, like it's still looking for the phone part or something
I gues it's just broken, and as it is older then a year, i gues it is really trashed.....
So i think i'm gona buy a new accu for my old phone, my abbo ends in aug 2008, so no new phone before then
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
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OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
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HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
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You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.