Hi folks. Been running DCD's roms for 3 months now; been very, very pleased with the customizations. Is memory usage of 85-90% common? Only 6-10 MB free?
Also, should programs like Voice Command, HTC Home-plugin, and Slingplayer Mobile be installed on device rather than storage card for better performance? Would installing on storage card free up program memory?
Thanks for your input.
Keep up the great work DCD.
My wife got a Samsung BJ2 for her job, so I moved up from my 2125 to her 3125.
Even though the 3125 is newer, I'm noticing far less workable memory. I can clear memory in Celetask on the 2125 and get 22-23mb of workable system memory. But on the 3125 with GnatGoSplat's Clean WM6, I can only clear up to about 12mb. This shows when trying to run the camera when anything else is running.
Shouldn't I be seeing better memory usage on this newer phone?
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
mr-free said:
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
ebb said:
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
vickylife007 said:
WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
I see that there are some roms now with 6.5 on 'em. What does 6.5 have that 6.1 does? Is it worth the upgrade for me to do it?
It is all personal preference. Try one and compare. I still like 6.1 better.
When I used 6.5 the only differences were that 6.5 had:
- titanium today screen (which I don't like)
- honeycomb Start Menu (which is harder to use so again, I don't like it)
- way less free RAM
- way more memory leaks
- much less stability
- lots of other bugs
It may have improved by now but since I didn't like any of the new features brought to the table (titanium and honeycomb) anyway and got less free RAM on our already RAM-limited device, I'll just stick to 6.1.
6.5 is nice, but the biggest problem for me is memory. If you want to have a functional camera (low memory mode), it's even worse. I'm feeling its time for a hardware upgrade (especially since USCC is getting the TP2 )
i tried 6.5 a while ago.. couldnt get used to it.. so back to the rom in my sig....
It puzzles me that my TG01 boasts a healthy sounding 256MB of RAM, but often all that is available when all apps are terminated is no more than 80MB free. Having a look at the background processes, these seem to account for about 40MB which would suggest there should be about 200MB free at worst! What is all the "spare" memory preoccupied with? Is there a utility that will give a breakdown of how the RAM is allocated?
Why is this a problem? Because, more often than not, I get an error using Internet Explorer that there isn't quite enough memory to run Adobe Flash.
dont use IE lol ... IE memory managment is one of the things they fixed in 6.5.3 ... when i had 4 tabs open in opera and had 35mb free , i started to panic too , but then i opened 14 tabs and i still had 20mb+ free , so its all good , its quite dynamic
A program call CleanRam will help you get more Ram spaces.
Go here for more info
http://www.htcaddicts.com/?id=110
Ram Problem
yeah i agree with you! on the htc touch hd, it had 288 mb of ram, and after a clean soft reset and touchflo 3d running, it had 199mb of ram left.
on our TG01 it has 256mb ram, an after i installed touchflo 3d 2.5, i have 58mb of ram after soft reset. there Is so little to use.
This makes no sense
There has to be something we are missing. how do we free up more of this memory? What is it being saved for that we cannot even seeit?
Guys wait for clean roms.
I am sure our chefts will cook us some awesome roms soon.
BTW I am anew proud owner of TG01 (no voice calling quality problem.)
Currently with rogers canada
even with the ability of flashing clean roms, there still seems to be big problemss with ram. perhaps toshiba sold their devices with false specs?
its fine aslong as u avoid the sense roms
and be sure to softreset every few days
souljaboy said:
its fine aslong as u avoid the sense roms
and be sure to softreset every few days
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good point but sense has good eye-candy
what is the ram on a clean 6.5 rom with titanium?
olyloh6696 said:
good point but sense has good eye-candy
what is the ram on a clean 6.5 rom with titanium?
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Memory:
Storage: In Use – 38 MB Free – 224 MB
Programe: In Use – 118 MB Free – 87 MB
Per my 6.5 'clean' ROM - link in signature below....