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Afternoon Folks,
I guess we all want our ideals and dreams fulfilled.. so my aspirations are small really...
My TyTN pleasure would be boundless if I could get some bluetooth headphones/handsfree with an FM radio built in that either had, or I could attach some decent sony earbud ear phones (gotta blank out the incessant crap-chat on the train to work in the mornings ) rather than the pad ones that just fall out every other step..
So I'm thinking my only (currently available) option would be to get a Nokia HS-12W headset and pay a grown up to change the earphones over...
My questions are...
1. Anyone tried a HS-12W with a TyTN?
2. Anyone know of a person/company in the UK who would do the electronics sorcery?
3. Anyone think of a better way to achieve my modest dreams?
Thanks,
Andy
I have some Nokia HS-12W bluetooth headphones and to be honest I am disappointed with the results which I suspect has more to do with the phone than the headset.
I find that if I am more than about a metre away from the phone or the phone's memory is in anyway dealing with any other task, that I get constant skipping. I have come to the conclusion that this is because the phone memory can't keep up with the streaming but that is just a guess.
Also, I have found that the radio reception is a bit poor so quite often I get a lot of static noise, even on the strong stations. Sometimes it's okay though.
It is possible that either my headset or my phone are in some way faulty because I have read other peoples posts regarding the HS-12W and they have had some good results. Perhaps I am just unlucky
I have resorted to going back to using the standard headphones and using streaming radio instead (I am on T-Mobile so doesn't cost silly amounts of money for the data use).
Thanks for your reply Nicky...
I'll have a search myself for feedback on the HS-12W... I tried earlier and couldn't find anything directly tried with a TyTN but I'm crap at searching..
The closest "off the shelf" option seems to be one of itech's old PowBox's... LINK HERE it fulfills everything I want apart from it's not stereo bluetooth... it's mono... but at the moment I'm kinda thinking that may be a better option than trying to find someone to change the earphones on the Nokia, and then it perhaps not work afterwards...
From what others have written here the itech prodcuts in general seem to work ok with the TyTN so maybe an older itech product will work seamlessly! Yeah right!
Yep... my one beef with the HS-12W is the range (2-3 meters or so). I think its fidelity when in range is awsome though and it plays skip free too.
I've never tried the FM radio on it to be honest...
Thanks Sleuth
Do all the buttons on the Nokia work with the TyTN?
I was put off the itech R35 when a few people on here said some of the buttons aren't compatible...
Thanks,
Andy
Just out of interest, does anyone know what the difference is between the Itech S35, S38 and R35.
I was thinking of trying one of these to see if the range/skipping was any better than the HS-12W but also, I have some fontopia headphones which I would quite like to use and this would be quite a good solution for that too.
I have looked on the Itech website but am still struggling to see any comparitive difference.
@sts_missle: From an AVRCP standpoint, all the buttons work just fine with WMP. I can skip tracks, pause and control the volume without issues.
There's no AVRCP support at all for TCPMP/CorePlayer 1.0 yet however. This is a problem with those apps, not the HS-12W though. I believe CorePlayer AVRCP support is in the very near future though since it seems that the Technology Preview had it.
Thanks again Sleuth.
I've just found out the itech PowBox can't stream audio from a device, only from itself, (256mb memory or the radio) and it's a big ol' thing too, so the Nokia it is then..
Now I've just got to find someone who'll swap the earphones over for me...
looking for a stereo receiver to connect to my hifi at home....
something like :
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/acc-bluetooth-stereo-adapters/hws-bta2w
or
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2//sfID3//productID/537
bells and whistles are not importsnt only the quality of sound.
anybody used these devices? or that can recomend a better receiver?
I've used both, and Sony is unthinkably better. Its not perfect as it doesn't support really high bandwith A2DP without clipping, but nothing really does... (in fact of all the a2dp accesories that I've tried, only one set of headphones have, Logitech Freepulse 2). The Scosche adapter is complete garbage. I tried two of them thinking that I just got a defective one, boy was I wrong. It outputs poor quality, and after maybe 20 min (if you're lucky) all you get is static, and then you have to turn the unit off and turn it back on. After that you'll maybe get 5 min until the static kicks in. If you want to use it for longer than 5min, you have to let it sit until it cools down. I bought my first one on eBay, and tried out the second unit from Best Buy. At the end of the day, I returned the Best Buy one, and just threw out the eBay one. I couldn't risk my ebay seller reputation (re)selling garbage like that.
Thanks Sonus,
i will mainly be plugging this into a motorbike intercom so although i want as high quality as possible its by no means audiophile grade
stated home use as i want the ability to power externaly
the alternative is the unit made by the intercom manufacturer and thats £75 and mono!
so before i go and grab one of the Sony's from Fleabay.... any other suggestions?
the Motorola DC800 is another that i have been looking at
As far as recievers, no other suggestions. I haven't used the Moto DC800, so I can't comment. Just be aware that the Sony only does A2DP, no HSF or HSP at all. So if you need those features...
I too was planning to use the Sony both in my car and at home. In the end, I ended up only using it at home. And it works really well there! My phone calls don't get picked up on my home stereo system, which is a plus to me. And the Sony can do both input and output over A2DP, so I sometimes use it to stream from either my phone or laptop, and at other times, I use it to stream the TV or radio to my A2DP headphones. As for car usage, the Sony has no internal battery, and the car charger must be ordered from Sony. Besides that, a dedicated car piece has the advantage of having a remote control. In my car, I installed the iO Play adapter.
thats actually great news
i want the phone going to the other reciever so this one will be for audio only so the lack of HSP HFP is great, should make configuration easier.
does the Sony come on automaticly when you plug it in? or do you have to press the button... i hope it will come on itself as it will be tucked under the seat (not impossible to get at and switch on but it would be a bonus if i didnt have to)
iO Play adaptor?? any more info?
Unfortunately, the Sony doesn't turn on automatically when you plug into a power source.
I posted some pics of my io play setup over here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408977. But that won't work for your motorcycle as it requires some serious re-wiring to be able to work w/o a car stereo attached to it.
I just googled these, would they be helpful to you? http://www.a2dp.info/Newsflash/Bluetooth-Headsets-for-Motorcycle-Enthusiasts.html or this
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/blu-virtu/
sonus said:
I just googled these, would they be helpful to you? http://www.a2dp.info/Newsflash/Bluetooth-Headsets-for-Motorcycle-Enthusiasts.html or this
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/blu-virtu/
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- not really as i already have the intercom and its great in itself (and expensive!) just trying to avoid a cable from the Polaris
that IO Play looks nice!
Folks,
does anyone know a cradle or docking station with built-in speaker that can be used with the Touch HD?
I really like my Touch HD, but I'm green with envy any time I see the plenty and great audio accessories for the iPhone. Things could be so easy - plug the device in and enjoy your music. But alas, the market for audio accessories seems to have waned since the times of the older devices (1, 2 etc.).
I've seen some all-round portable speakers, but most of them are crappy both in build and audio quality. What I'm looking for is a proper speaker system to enjoy music in the living room or kitchen, ideally tailor-made for the HD. Hardware audio controls would be ideal, but with the simple 3.5mm plug, that is not to be ...
Ideas, anyone?
Ta,
N.
i've also searched for something like that... and i coulden't find anything...
at the end i got the following bluetooth speaker
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbs-100?lc=en&cc=gb
and i can say i'm loving it...the sound is great for such a small speaker and it can go for about 8 hours without being charged...
my only wish now is that a buy a never model that features 2 speakers
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbs-400?lc=en&cc=gb#a
hope it help..
if you find some docking-speaker system for the HD, please post it...
qtype,
thanks for the suggestions!
It's some consolation that I'm not the only one missing an accessory like that. I'm specifically looking for a docking station/cradle with speaker because I'd like to use it on my nightstand - alarm clock, music player and charger all-in-one. So no luck yet ...
As for bluetooth speakers, I've used the good old Saitek A-250 and recently the Parrot Party, and the sound is quite okay with both - possibly even a bit better with the Saitek, but that's not so portable and robust. So the Saitek is good for the kitchen or the bedroom, while you can take the Parrot with you. With a bit more bulk than your SE.
Anyway - maybe something will come up.
Cheers,
N.
I was searching for cradle to chg phone & extra battery, found 1 on ebay, but I did run across what your looking for. don't remember where but it was there. Quig
qtype said:
i've also searched for something like that... and i coulden't find anything...
at the end i got the following bluetooth speaker
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbs-100?lc=en&cc=gb
and i can say i'm loving it...the sound is great for such a small speaker and it can go for about 8 hours without being charged...
my only wish now is that a buy a never model that features 2 speakers
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mbs-400?lc=en&cc=gb#a
hope it help..
if you find some docking-speaker system for the HD, please post it...
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Try this
https://www.t-mobile-accessories.co.uk/P2_Touch-HD_ALTIM500_Portable+IPOD+Speaker.html
im trying to play my music on my g1 through the audio in my car. i have a 2006 corrolla, and it doesnt have any mp3 port or whatever. doesnt have anything actually its very basic, just has the radio and the cd player.
from what i know, theres only one way to do this, and thats to use those fm transmitter things to play it over the radio. but ive heard these things suck and the quality is bad and sometimes you cant even find a good frequency so it doesnt work. but i said eh ill try it myself, so...
i'd like some advice and opinions and what you guys think is the best, most reliable, and best quality fm transmitter.
more than anything i'd like it from people that actually have these things or have used them. thanks!
I got one from ebay and it works, but adding weight to the lower usb connection does tend to cause problems. First I had to take the rubber nub off to make it easier to take in and out. But even still the connection was loose enough to unplug while driving, over bumps etc. End of story, it works, but just enough (if you find a decent station).
Pull out the the player and look at the back. If you have a mode control or aux key on the front of the unit then you will usually have a way to connect it the real way. They will have a left and right channel (white and red plugs), then buy an adapter l/r -> 3.5mm, and use the stock adapter or buy the htc breakout box which is what I have to charge and play.
can you please provide me with some links or pictures of what you just explained? cause i had already done lots of research, but none of it made it look as simple as you just did lol
btw, do you have the same car?
oh yeah and pm me please cause i cant always be checking the forums i get too busy. thanks!!
i have the motorola t505 on mi car and it works fine its not perfect but close if u wanna give it a try
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875982146
Go buy a bluetooth enabled car stereo, that's what I did.
I've been using an FM transmitter for a couple of years now as I have the same issue with my car (Stock headunit which I can't be bothered to replace). I'm using a Kensington FM transmitter (Looks like this one http://www.anttiussa.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/kensington.jpg) and it works very well, I just have the three buttons assigned to frequencies that are mostly unused, if my signal starts to drop I just switch to another frequency on it and the radio. It's not perfect, hence why it's necessary to switch frequency when travelling through areas with stations active.
To be honest, I find local driving fine using only one frequency. Cheaper than replacing a headunit . I've used about 3 in total, some have been utter crap (High pitch squeals when plugged into the car) but this ones done me well .
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Go buy a bluetooth enabled car stereo, that's what I did.
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please list your model along with any pros / cons you have for it
If you go with a FM transmitter and have problems finding a clear frequency, try removing your antenna if it is easy to do. On my car - a 2001 prius - the ant just screws in. I remove it if I want to listen to my mp3s and screw it back on for radio listening. Very strong or very close stations can still be a problem, tho - And don't play with the antenna while driving, of course *S*
Forget FM transmitters - the quality will suck, it will add bulk to the phone and you won't be able to charge your phone while you're driving (which you will need to do if you are listening to music for over an hour!).
Bluetooth car stereos are really quite cheap. I have a Mutant MT2200BT, and you can now get the MT2300BT for less than £80. Its well worth it - I use it with spotify on my way to work every day... I basically have access to unlimited music in my car - hassle free! Make sure the ROM you are using has BT working (i.e. Dwang).
Sherloq said:
Forget FM transmitters - the quality will suck, it will add bulk to the phone and you won't be able to charge your phone while you're driving (which you will need to do if you are listening to music for over an hour!).
Bluetooth car stereos are really quite cheap. I have a Mutant MT2200BT, and you can now get the MT2300BT for less than £80. Its well worth it - I use it with spotify on my way to work every day... I basically have access to unlimited music in my car - hassle free! Make sure the ROM you are using has BT working (i.e. Dwang).
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If you're concern is sound quality Bluetooth is going to stomp on your dynamic range as well. Wired is the only way to get the best sound quality your phone can produce.
benmyers2941 said:
If you're concern is sound quality Bluetooth is going to stomp on your dynamic range as well. Wired is the only way to get the best sound quality your phone can produce.
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I agree... but you will nonetheless be pleasantly surprised by the quality you can get through A2DP (BT Stereo). And it is really straightfroward to setup and use!
I'm thinking of the same thing. There are several ways.
1.Cheap : Buy a cheap car audio with usb port and use your phone as a USB Thumb drive - make sure the audio recognizes the device before you buy it.
60-70$
2. Cheaper - go to a local car audio repair shop and ask them to add AUZ input by 3,5 mm jack - it can be done, don't listem to them lazy bastards. Buy a HTC 3,5 mm connector and you are done. Costs about 40-50$
3. Normal - buy a motorola ot jabra Bluetooth - to - FM transmitter - search for stereo bluetooth fm transmitter on the web... they are about 100$
4. Expensive = 200$ - Buy a Sony A2DP car system. Make sure it supports A2DP and test it out in the store.
or you can go the route that i did with my silverado and ipod. iSimple makes a media gateway box. it plugs directly into your factory stero with a new harness and gives you 3 options. ipod input, rca input, or 3.5mm input. all can be controlled from the stock radio controls and it charges all "i" models. i use it with my hugeeeee old ipod video for trips here and there and then i use the 3.5mm or rca input with my g1 so i can use pandora.
you can pick it up at best buy and let them install it or you can do it. put it this way, if you can root a dream, you can plug in the new harness, seriously thats all it takes. from start to finish the job took me 35 minutes...
In my bmw, I have a cable that I used to plug my iPhone in and was able to charge/play my music thru the interface. Since I switched over to SGS2 (love it btw), I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement for this cable. Is there anything like this for the SGS2, or am I out of luck?
Thanks
kash1f said:
In my bmw, I have a cable that I used to plug my iPhone in and was able to charge/play my music thru the interface. Since I switched over to SGS2 (love it btw), I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement for this cable. Is there anything like this for the SGS2, or am I out of luck?
Thanks
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I use the car dock that is made for the phone by Samsung.
Best Solution:
Get a new car. My 2010 Mazda M3 has Bluetooth in it so all I had to do is buy a new car charger and connected it to Bluetooth. That's for your best experience though.
Less than the best solution:
Buy a Samsung Car dock, hope you have an AUX port or get an FM transmitter! It's a lot of work to have this done right, clean and everything. But it works! You can find most of the parts on amazon for really cheap. But i hope your car stereo has an Aux port or Bluetooth cuz if not you are kinda gonna be screwed into buying a new one. I don't know of any that support connecting through usb on any other phone than the iPhone or a standard flash drive with just MP3s on it.
Yea, my car has an AUX port, so I will just go buy the dock. Thanks for all your help
Hopefully another item like this takes off. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/401662159/pair-with-pear-bluetooth-to-your-speakers-dock Not trying to advertise, but this looks like it's exactly what you need. Unfortunately it doesn't exist yet... Unless another company makes one that I don't know about.
I highly recommend the Bluetooth Gateway by Motorola that turns your aux-in into an A2DP stereo like these fancy new cars.
A brief guide in the beginning of a little review I wrote here.
Takes a little DIY to get it set up out of the way, but once you do, it's a fantastic, under-$50 solution to get A2DP like the new $20k cars
Bt-35 bfhak
Has anyone used either of these devices: BT-35 or BFHAK
They have them for different makes of cars. just wanting to know how well they work.
I have a Jeep with the bluetooth touchscreen. I just play mine through BT, even though the sound quality isnt the greatest.
wrs223 said:
I have a Jeep with the bluetooth touchscreen. I just play mine through BT, even though the sound quality isnt the greatest.
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I have the same, wonder why the quality suks
I just use a simple cable from my headphone jack to my aux in jack. I do wish it was able to display stuff like track info and album art, but hey, first world problems I guess. Poweramp does the job.
I think it's because bt audio only streams at 96 kbs.
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I don't know why you're having problems, but my bluetooth audio sounds heavenly using the gateway that I referenced in my earlier post.
And by the way, this 2003 spec sheet lists a top bit rate of 345 kb/s on Bluetooth 1.0. I don't know where you got your number.
BT streaming is worse than wired because you've got your phone/player transceiver encoding, and then the external receiver decoding your music. You can have all the bandwidth in the world but you'd still be limited by the quality of your transmitting and receiving hardware's digital audio capabilities.
I have one of these, it works very well. I've used FM tuners before and they all come in static-y. This one comes in perfectly, can charge your phone, has audio IN, and can be used as a hands free phone. Pretty nifty.
GOgroove FlexSMART X2 Wireless
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