Does Touch Cruise E100/W100 Wired Remote Control work with Pocket Music? - Touch Cruise Accessories

Hi guys,
I really want to have this baby:
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...but from other posts in the forums I understood it works only with HTC's audio player and/or WMP (depending on the device, apparently). Pocket Music is my favorite player so I was wondering whether the E100 will work with it on Polaris. Does anyone know? 10x.
P.S. Also, is any additional driver required for Polaris?

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no.it,s only working with the default WMP.
maybe if someone knows how we can change some registry values to give pocketmusic path.

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mastelos said:
no.it,s only working with the default WMP.
maybe if someone knows how we can change some registry values to give pocketmusic path.
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So when it is plugged its buttons are not recognized as hardware buttons which you can assign actions to? That would be nice...

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ingenious (or any one else). I had a look at these and I think they look really good but have you looked at the W100? Are you 100% sure it's the E100 you want?
As far as I can see from comparing the specs on the Expansys web site, the E100 is just a W100 bundled with some cheap headphones for £5 more (I did say cheap!).
Don't most people buy these sort of adaptors partly to be able to use higher-quality headphones of their choice? Sorry if I'm off base here regarding your personal requirements, but the W100 (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=160194) might be the one to look at and then spend just a bit more on headphones if you don't have some already.
If my understanding above of how these two products relate to each other is wrong then I'd really appreciate the correct explanation.
- Julian

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JulianL said:
ingenious (or any one else). I had a look at these and I think they look really good but have you looked at the W100? Are you 100% sure it's the E100 you want?
As far as I can see from comparing the specs on the Expansys web site, the E100 is just a W100 bundled with some cheap headphones for £5 more (I did say cheap!).
Don't most people buy these sort of adaptors partly to be able to use higher-quality headphones of their choice? Sorry if I'm off base here regarding your personal requirements, but the W100 (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=160194) might be the one to look at and then spend just a bit more on headphones if you don't have some already.
If my understanding above of how these two products relate to each other is wrong then I'd really appreciate the correct explanation.
- Julian
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Oh, you're totally right. I want the W100 - I have very nice earplugs (Creative EP-635 - amazing sound and very comfortable, so I definitely don't need other).
But the problem with the drivers remains... too bad

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ingenious said:
Oh, you're totally right. I want the W100 - I have very nice earplugs (Creative EP-635 - amazing sound and very comfortable, so I definitely don't need other).
But the problem with the drivers remains... too bad
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I just got my device (Touch Cruise) from a shop in London just now and I bought a W100 at the same time. It is much smaller than I thought from the pictures.
I'm trying to be very careful about conditioning the battery on my new toy so I won't power it on until tomorrow but then I can start installing software and playing with it and I'll post some comments on the W100.
I know you said Pocket Music is your preferred player but have you tried PocketPlayer from Conduits recently? This is what I used on my Artemis and will install on my Polaris. It has full button mapping and you can assign multiple buttons to the same action, for instance the default mapping for <Volume-Up> is to assign it to the D-Pad <Up> key (not very interesting) but also to map it to a key that is displayed in the PocketPlayer mapping setup as something like "Media Volume+". This is interesting because it implies to me that PocketPlayer may be aware of media keys and these might be what are on the W100.
Anyway, if you don't like PocketPlayer then this doesn't help but if you do then I'll report back in a day or two as to whether I did manage to map the media keys.
- Julian

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Can the remote be used as an antenna
Can I use the remote only for the antenna so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to the radio. They should have built the dam antenna inside the phone unit.

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Eroc162 said:
Can I use the remote only for the antenna so I can use my bluetooth headset to listen to the radio. They should have built the dam antenna inside the phone unit.
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You can do it with any headset adapter. I have used the regular 3.5mm converter with many formats of headset and all give god fm radio performance, even the short earbud sections. Then you can listen with your stereo bt headset wirelessly

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JulianL said:
I know you said Pocket Music is your preferred player but have you tried PocketPlayer from Conduits recently? This is what I used on my Artemis and will install on my Polaris. It has full button mapping and you can assign multiple buttons to the same action, for instance the default mapping for <Volume-Up> is to assign it to the D-Pad <Up> key (not very interesting) but also to map it to a key that is displayed in the PocketPlayer mapping setup as something like "Media Volume+". This is interesting because it implies to me that PocketPlayer may be aware of media keys and these might be what are on the W100.
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Never heard of it, frankly. But I checked it out and it seems to be a good player. It even has support for scroll wheels! I strongly hope you can assign the W100's buttons - it looks really cool and functional. Can you actually please post some pictures of the W100? 10x very much!
EDIT: Unfortunately, I found this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313155

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ingenious said:
Never heard of it, frankly. But I checked it out and it seems to be a good player. It even has support for scroll wheels! I strongly hope you can assign the W100's buttons - it looks really cool and functional. Can you actually please post some pictures of the W100? 10x very much!
EDIT: Unfortunately, I found this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313155
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Thanks for that link. PocketPlayer is a great player, the media library is just fantastic, but as in the thread you discovered, I have tried the W100 with it and whenever I press a key on the W100 then the built in HTC Audio Player seems to catch the keypress and start up.
The good news is that the above demonstrates that it doesn't just work with WMP, it is possible for another media player (in this case the HTC one) to intercept and act on the keys. The bad news is that the HTC Audio Player is now our enemy and we need to find a way to wrestle control of the media keys away from it.
SInce I am a PocketPlayer user I am focussing on a solution to work with this. I have initially posted a request on the Conduits PocketPlayer forum and if I don't get a solution in the next few days then I will file a support request with Conduits and let you know how I get on.
Re pictures, I'm just trying to sort some other stuff out at the moment so I'll try and do that in the next few days.
- Julian

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JulianL said:
The good news is that the above demonstrates that it doesn't just work with WMP, it is possible for another media player (in this case the HTC one) to intercept and act on the keys. The bad news is that the HTC Audio Player is now our enemy and we need to find a way to wrestle control of the media keys away from it.
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Yes!
JulianL said:
SInce I am a PocketPlayer user I am focussing on a solution to work with this. I have initially posted a request on the Conduits PocketPlayer forum and if I don't get a solution in the next few days then I will file a support request with Conduits and let you know how I get on.
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Thank you very much for this! Please report when you have news!
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Re pictures, I'm just trying to sort some other stuff out at the moment so I'll try and do that in the next few days.
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Don't worry - no need for that. I found some pictures. Actually I'm ready to hit the "Buy now" button. Just want to be sure it works with some decent player.

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JulianL said:
Thanks for that link. PocketPlayer is a great player, the media library is just fantastic, but as in the thread you discovered, I have tried the W100 with it and whenever I press a key on the W100 then the built in HTC Audio Player seems to catch the keypress and start up.
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- Julian
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Thanks for the info Julian. I think a lot of people are very interested in this device. Could you confirm other reports that pressing a button on the controller causes the screen to come on. This seems particularly pointless with a remote controller!
How about the FM radio functions?
Cheers,
Paul

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pmeekin said:
Thanks for the info Julian. I think a lot of people are very interested in this device. Could you confirm other reports that pressing a button on the controller causes the screen to come on. This seems particularly pointless with a remote controller!
How about the FM radio functions?
Cheers,
Paul
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You're welcome!
Re buttons, I just tried this and yes, the screen comes on (this was a bit of a suprise to me too). Press the red hang-up button and the TC wakes up and goes to the Today screen. Press the green answer button and the TC wakes and goes to the Phone app. Press any of the media buttons, including vol up/down, and the TC wakes and starts the HTC Audio Player.
Re FM radio functions, it all works pretty much as expected. Vol up/down works the volume (the FM Radio volume not the system-wide volume settings). The Play/Pause button does volume mute/unmute when in the FM radio app. The fwd/back buttons do the seek functions. The red end-call button switches to the Today screen and leaves the radio playing in the background; if you want to get back to the FM app then hit the play/pause button and it mutes the FM but also takes you back into the app so you can just press it again to be back listening but now with the FM app displaying on the screen. Finally the green answer button will take you to the phone app with the FM still playing in the background and again you can use the play/pause mute/unmute trick to get back to the FM display screen.
Edit (for completeness): There is also a mute button on the side of the W100. This has been mentioned in some other places but in case you haven't seen this .... the mute button has confused some people because they assume it mutes the playback and are confused when it doesn't work. I haven't tested this myself yet but apparently the mute button on the side is to mute the microphone not the speakers, i.e. to stop your caller from hearing you, so it is only for use during a phone call (I guess to mute the other party you can just hang up ).
- Julian

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Thanks again Julian!
It sounds to me like this remote control isn't as well integrated with the phone as I would have expected coming from the actual manufacturer. The main reason I would want something like this would be because I don't want to look at or control it via the screen.
Am I correct in thinking that once a button is pressed and the screen switches on it is then active for touch control? So if it happens to be say, in a pocket all bets are off? What about if you use it with something like S2U2?
I'm sure you haven't been spending all your time with your new Polaris testing out the remote by the way - I'm just a bit annoyed about how this seems to work because it looked like the ideal accessory for how I anticipate using my Orbit 2 (when I get it).
Cheers,
Paul

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I'm not having much luck with this thing on my tytn II on a custom, polaris based rom. None of the buttons work.
If audio manager is running, and you press the power button, does it just turn the screen off, or does it put the device in suspend mode like it would if audio manager was not working?

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Hm... do you think there's a chance that somebody writes generic drivers for the W100 soon? Otherwise I might reconsider buying this simpler (though slick) adapter (HS U110+):

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Just a quick note. I haven't gone away, it's just that my device is new so I'm trying to be very disciplined on the first 5 or so charge/discharge cycles to try and condition my battery so that means that once I put it on charge I leave it charging uninterrupted for 18 hours and that's what it's doing right now so I can't try anything, and hence answer any questions, until tomorrow. I'll try and answer a few things tomorrow.
- Julian

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ingenious said:
Hm... do you think there's a chance that somebody writes generic drivers for the W100 soon? Otherwise I might reconsider buying this simpler (though slick) adapter (HS U110+):
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I'm probably going to get myself one of these as well as the W100 because it is smaller and I'm not sure how much I'll use the W100 buttons assuming that I can get them working with PocketPlayer.
- Julian

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Wow. if you have the device plugged in, then you unplug it, you get zero sound. you can still dial out, but no one hears you. of course this could be a problem wtih my rom, as i can't even use the buttons anyways, but arrgggg not looking good.

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I've moved forward very slightly with getting the W100 to work with Conduits' PocketPlayer. My post to their forum elicited a suggestion that I install a PocketPlayer plugin downloadable from the Conduits web site that allows PocketPlayer to load Windows Media Player plugins and has an option that can be set that tells it to intercept WMP which I assume means that PocketPlayer runs the WMP plugins before/instead of WMP.
Anyway, after a bit of playing I now have the volume up/down working perfectly. These buttons now control the PocketPlayer-specific volume setting without causing WMP or HTC Audio Player to grab them and start up, and they even do this without activating the touch screen so it is in-pocket friendly.
Unfortunately the rest of the news isn't so good. The Play/Pause, Fwd and Back buttons no longer cause HTC Audio Manager to start up and grab them, they now just do nothing at all when pressed. I suppose it's progress, I've stopped another program from grabbing them, but I haven't yet managed to get PocketPlayer to see them.
Finally the red & green phone buttons work exactly as before, i.e. they switch on the device, activate the screen, and go to Today/Phone screen respectively.
Paul - re your question "Am I correct in thinking that once a button is pressed and the screen switches on it is then active for touch control? So if it happens to be say, in a pocket all bets are off? What about if you use it with something like S2U2?". Yes, your thinking is correct. I haven't tried it with S2U2 but I would guess that this would keep the screen at least locked although it would still be on and hence using battery power. From the above however, I'm hoping that if I can complete my mission and get these other three buttons working as well with PocketPlayer as the Vol Up/Down buttons do then the screen switching on is no longer an issue
- Julian