Battery Problems - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I think my phone might be using batter power even when i turn it off! I dont use my phone much im using a stock rom. Ok ive realized lately that if i dont use my phone for like a day and its off I was at 60% battery power when i turned it off then when i went back the next day to turn it on the power button wouldnt turn it on i had to take the battery out and put it back in then press the power button and it came out with only 10% battery power im wondering in anyone else has had this problem? O and its usually in my backpack.

It probably got turned back on in your backpack

unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.

rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
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Doesn't flight mode only turn off the radio? No, just as before the phone remains on, but at best in a low power state such as standby.
We can turn our phones off. If I hold the power button down I then get a window:
"Power will be turned off, and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?"
After powered off, then next time I power it on the phone reboots.

I've got a HTC TyTN (hermes) and i get the same problem: my battery wears off in maximum 3 hours after i fully charge it. all the connections are turned off,except for the phone function. also, while it's charging, no matter if it's charging through the usb or the AC charger, the battery gets very hot. PLEASE can anyone help
(i have the black satin normal rom, with the 1.43.00.00 radio version installed)

axion68 said:
It probably got turned back on in your backpack
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No cause i have it in its case in my back pack and shouldnt it be on then when i take it out?

rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.
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This is a ppc6800 mogul not a 6700 moguls can actually turn off it still does it even if i take the battery out and put it back in.

Sounds like you weakened your battery. Question, do you constantly have your phone plugged into the charger? Same thing happened to me, I used to have my phone plugged in 90% of the day and I noticed that the times that I didn't have it plugged in, the battery life was drastically reduced. Overcharging can weaken a rechargeable battery.

I use to charge it every night then take it off every morning and sometimes since my sis stole my charger id use a motorala on my dad has its output is 5.0v and input is 100-240v is this the right voltage for my mogul?Now i almost never charge it cause its usually off. And im not sure if this has to do anything but my water damage stickers ARE NOT TRIPPED

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[Q] Rezound Bricked?

My Rezound is broken
I unlocked and de-sensed it, but that was when the unlock first came out and it's been working fine since, so I don't thing that's the problem.
The phone won't come on, and when I plug it in the charge light doesn't even come on. If I leave it plugged in, then take the battery out and put it back in the charge light comes on for a few seconds, then turns off.
I was at a new years party the night before and I may have laid down on top of it while it was in my pocket, but the water sensors are fine, and I don't remember it ever getting wet.
I notice there are a lot of connections between the phone and the back cover. Is it possible that something could be bent and these connections aren't being made, so the phone refuses to do anything? I tried putting wires across them where they would normally be connected, but it didn't seem to help.
So what do you guys think? Is there something else I can try? I guess if it's totally broken then they can't tell that it's unlocked, so I could try getting a replacement :/
First off, I wouldn't have put any wire across any of the antenna leads like that. Second, if the phone is not coming on with the cover off then you may have another problem. The phone should turn on without the cover. You just wouldn't have signal.
My opinion, try another batter if you know anyone who has one. Or maybe go to your VZW store and see if they will let you use one of theirs. If the battery/phone is too hot the LED will blink orange, once it is cool enough, or full enough to turn on/charge again it will become solid. The fact you get an indication when there is no battery leads me to believe there may be a problem with the battery itself.
with the phone off, pull the battery for several minutes. Then put it back in and plug it in to the charger. Do not try and turn the phone on. If the charge light comes on and stays on, just let it charge for a few hours until it turns green.
I've read of rezounds dying from the battery going completely out. Screws it up somehow. Verizon also has thunderbolt external chargers for 5 bucks. You could use that to charge the battery (it fits), then try and turn it on. If it still won't turn on after charging, put the battery in and try and boot into the bootloader menu (power on and vol down at the same time), from there you can restore your nandroid or flash another ROM if it will boot to it.
I tried leaving the battery out for a few minutes, and then for the rest of the day. No dice in either case. I'll try to get an external charger tomorrow :/
Thanks for the ideas, I'll let you know how it goes.
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
ministroni said:
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
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After getting the new battery, does the orange LED come on while charging the phone when powered off? I replaced my battery after having the same problem and now the orange light does not stay on while the phone is charging when it is powered off. I guess it's no big deal, but it bothers me.
flie4wtguy said:
After getting the new battery, does the orange LED come on while charging the phone when powered off? I replaced my battery after having the same problem and now the orange light does not stay on while the phone is charging when it is powered off. I guess it's no big deal, but it bothers me.
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Yeah, it still works just fine. I turned it off just now and then plugged it in to check and the charging light came on immediately.
Maybe the battery is faulty or you got a thunderbolt battery by mistake and the phone is confused? Otherwise I have no clue why that would happen :/
I have them same problem. My phone is completely dead, won't turn on and a orange light comes on for 3 seconds and goes away and nothing happens. What do I need to do?
Sounds like your battery died. Pull the battery and let it sit for a few, then try to boot it back up and plug it in immediately.
I was reading a thread about this last night on RootzWiki. Dude did a lot of testing, came to find out it was ClockWorkMOD keeping a completely dead battery from charging at all. Is that the recovery you have? If so, I would put AmonRa on, try that.
Agreed, almost definitely a dead battery. You can try this:
1) Take out the battery and put it back in
2) Hold down power and volume down to enter the bootloader
3) Immediately plug the phone in and leave it there for 10 minutes or so
4) Reboot the phone now that you have enough power to make it through booting
This should work as long as your battery is completely dead.
My suggestion for the future though is to buy an external charger and a second battery. That's what I did, and now any time I accidentally let my battery die I just swap it out and I'm good to go at 100% while the other one recharges. Also an external charger is the easiest way to fix this if your battery is too dead for the above method.
ministroni said:
Went to Verizon today. I bought another battery and ordered an external charger. Swapped in the new battery and the phone started right up
Now I just hope I didn't screw anything up messing with the antenna contacts :/
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Also, remember that if you are using Clockwork Recovery for some reason that makes the phone not charge when its powered down. I had the similar issue where i couldnt get it to charge or come on at all, i put in a battery from my TBolt and it turned right on, switched Recovery to Amon Ra (Blue one, not the Red one) and from there it charged no problem!
worked...
slim6596 said:
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
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this worked for me! thank you!! also to come to think of it, the problem happened after installing clockworkmod recovery. so there certainly seems to be a connection
slim6596 said:
Mine died overnight. Same symptoms, charging light for a few seconds then nothing. I plugged it in, let it sit for a while (didn't time it, but not more than 15 minutes). Unplugged it, then: held power, volume up and volume down all at the same time. It booted up, as soon as the screen came on, I plugged it back into the charger. Running fine now. Hope this helps someone else.
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This absolutely helped me! I'm really liking this Rezound I picked up but the damn thing is also just very temperamental in general. Still a fantastic underrated device overall though.
My wifes d2g did that once. I ended up taking an old charger, stripping the ends off and taping it to the contacts on the battery for 30 minutes. It charged it up and after that it would charge thru the phone again. A lot cheaper than a new battery.
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Bad Batter?

Has anyone ever ran the battery so low it wont even charge? my battery was dying on me so i plugged it in the charger at 5% life left. i forgot i had my settings at "never sleep while charging" so the screen was on the whole time. last i saw, it was at 1% and then it shut off. its been plugged in for about 20 minutes and i still cant power it on, it does nothing. funny thing is i can get it into DL mode but not recovery or anything. i put my wifes battery in and it powers up though. so what gives?
Have you tried your charger in your wife's phone to make sure that the charger hasn't stopped working?
However, I would imagine there is the chance that your battery is dead.
yea i just did that. turns out my phone's port is bad again! for the 4th time
It might be easier and cheaper to just get a second battery and an external charger if it keeps going out on you. They're fairly cheap on ebay.
A healthy battery should not allow you to get to the state it won't charge. Even if you run your phone down to 0%, it would just turn itself off and let you charge it. I think you battery is defective.
kxlling said:
It might be easier and cheaper to just get a second battery and an external charger if it keeps going out on you. They're fairly cheap on ebay.
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at this point it is true. but i just dont feel like walking with another battery. it is working for now, as i took it apart and stuck something behind the board by the port. it was very coroded at the connection and atleast 1 broken away. i am going to get it fixed 1 more time ,$35 at Dr phone fix.
mryounghc said:
at this point it is true. but i just dont feel like walking with another battery. it is working for now, as i took it apart and stuck something behind the board by the port. it was very coroded at the connection and atleast 1 broken away. i am going to get it fixed 1 more time ,$35 at Dr phone fix.
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I suggest you try a different place if this is the 4th time it happens.
mryounghc said:
Has anyone ever ran the battery so low it wont even charge? my battery was dying on me so i plugged it in the charger at 5% life left. i forgot i had my settings at "never sleep while charging" so the screen was on the whole time. last i saw, it was at 1% and then it shut off. its been plugged in for about 20 minutes and i still cant power it on, it does nothing. funny thing is i can get it into DL mode but not recovery or anything. i put my wifes battery in and it powers up though. so what gives?
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yes, I have studied android battery, have to find some reason.

My Phone Won't Charge or Turn On

I have a HTC Evo 3D, which has a 1730 MAh Lithium-ion battery. I got it on 12/26/11. I've never had a problem like this persist for more than a minute. I was on Twitter doing regular stuff when my screen shuts off. I went to see if it was a screen timeout but it shut the phone down (which was weird because it had a regular battery charge). So the phone turned on and off again (because I thought it was a screen timeout). So I didn't really care at the time so I went on my computer. I just went to turn it on, forgetting the battery was drained, and it started and turned off again. So I went to charge it 5 minutes later, and the red light didn't come up. I pressed the power button and it didn't turn on. I tried with the volume button down, I took the battery out and put it back in, but nothing seemed to work. This sucks. It's not rooted. I will say it's usual problems, in the case someone out there can connect the problems.
It overheats constantly: in my pocket and it gets stuck between my mattress and a pillow or blanket sometimes at night; and it flashes red and green lights and it feels like the core is hot enough to melt.
Each day the battery life gets worse.
Sometimes it will shut off like it did with 40% battery; but I usually plug it in and it will return to 40% when I turn it on.
Sometimes it doesn't charge at first but I'll try it later and it works (tried it this time).
Sometimes the phone won't charge while it's on because the phone gets a pop-up saying it's using too much power versus what it's taking in.
It can be utterly retarded. It seems like it doesn't even know how much the battery is charged.
I've gotten pop-ups online saying my "Android's battery is drained" "Android system is corrupted" "Android battery/system is damaged". WT*?
I love my phone: it has problems but I love the 3D, the photos it takes, and how fast it is. I hate the screen because it doesn't work in spots. And sometimes if you press in certain spots red or blue will show up instead of the screen's current picture. Overall; a replacement would make the phone astounding again. But, it's been two years, and that means it has no warranty and I have my upgrade (the phone was $300, [got it on a sale for $100]), so it would probably knock off quite a bit of cost on my next phone. It would be a WASTE to get the same phone. I refuse to get iPhone. I want Android. I like my Android. I don't want new Android. I don't want to waste money. Situation complex: advice needed.
sorry to say but it is indeed a hardware problem.. you need to physically repair it!
NoviceXDAer said:
sorry to say but it is indeed a hardware problem.. you need to physically repair it!
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Is it my battery? Or is something else?

Changed the battery in my Nook Tablet

Piece of cake. Although the replacement is a bit lower MhA it's a lot better than the old battery
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Piece of cake.
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That's nice to know. Is there a step-by-step guide for it?
Although the replacement is a bit lower MhA it's a lot better than the old battery
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Which replacement battery did you get?
http://www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlos.cgi/batteryship/catalog.html
You even get free tools and they are not junk
How to that I used ... Hard to get pass the women robot talking LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0glSyvj2s
At first I wondered about this being a smaller battery if it would run down fast. It doesn't !!! Works very well !!!
I changed out my battery with one from the above site, but now every time I plug a USB cable in it to charge it immediately shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this? Wonder if I got a bad battery..
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I changed out my battery with one from the above site, but now every time I plug a USB cable in it to charge it immediately shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this? Wonder if I got a bad battery..
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That could be a bad/shorted battery. Mine is still going strong! I would try and reverse everything and start over. When I did mine my vol controls didn't work. Didn't have the connector snapped down good enough
I was looking at this one (still am actually although the one you got is cheaper):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0glSyvj2s
http://www.newpower99.com/Barnes_No...cement_Kit_p/barnes and noble nook tablet.htm
I am still trying to see if there is a setting that somehow caused my NT to freak out when the battery reaches 23%
But I have this bad feeling I will need to purchase a new battery. By the way, if the nook just shuts off watch the screen closely it usually says "battery too low" for a second before switching off. And if that is the case after plugging it in, you likely have a bad one and I would call the company to get a replacement.
I have been looking around and the only new replacement batteries I find are the two mentioned and both are 3200mh rather than 4000 of the original. How is your battery life since you changed it? Seems like it should be 1/4th what we had when new (or close to it). Or don't you really notice at this point? I have thought about ebay but then they are used batteries and you have no idea how many cycles are left, and likely hold 1/4th less anyway due to their age. *shurgs* not sure which way to go. As of now I am still having a "freak out" situation at about 23% (roughly). If it doesn't get any worse I can live with that, but from what I have read it will only get worse. :/
Anyone know of a battery app I could use to "adjust" the shut down threashold? I have one that will alert me to whatever I set so if I am not watching it will warn me so that will work if I don't have one that will actually shut it down. I know the "calibrating" apps don't do anything except delete the one file that is only usage stats from the last time it was plugged in, so I don't think there is a real way to calibrate it.
Update:
And on another note with the "spare parts" app the 'battery history' option errors with "the application spare parts ) process.com.andriod.spare_parts_ has topped unexpectedly, please try again." Is this normal? It is version 2.3.7. NT Hidden Settings app application settings/battery use works fine and shows the amount of everything that has used the battery since it was last plugged in/charged. Could this error be a sign of the problem with the phantom touches and inaccurate battery display? And if it is a sign of something broken, what and how do I fix it?
I received a replacement battery and it is doing the same thing, so somehow during the battery switch something got wonkey with my nook. It charges OK just powers off to do it. Since it's used by my kids now it's not essential to be on while charging, but I'd still like to figure this out.
mpry1 said:
I received a replacement battery and it is doing the same thing, so somehow during the battery switch something got wonkey with my nook. It charges OK just powers off to do it. Since it's used by my kids now it's not essential to be on while charging, but I'd still like to figure this out.
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Which battery did you get? And very strange it shuts off when you plug it in. Never seen or heard of that before. It should boot up if off. Or do you mean the screen goes off/goes to sleep but not full shut down when you plug it in? If it is going to sleep, that is likely a app or setting that is doing it. Not sure which but you might want to check any battery apps you have or your settings. It would also depend on which ROM you are running, stock (which I am running) or something else.
Both batteries were the one mentioned in the original post. It doesn't go to sleep when I plug it in, it completely shuts off like no power at all. It will not boot up until I unplug the USB from a power source, although it will fully charge while it is plugged in. I've never seen anything like this and I've been messing with android since my original moto droid 1.
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Both batteries were the one mentioned in the original post. It doesn't go to sleep when I plug it in, it completely shuts off like no power at all. It will not boot up until I unplug the USB from a power source, although it will fully charge while it is plugged in. I've never seen anything like this and I've been messing with android since my original moto droid 1.
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Very strange indeed. The only thing I would say to do is turn the USB debugging on and off a few times, to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't but if you tried two different brands of battery, sounds like it is the hardware on the nook. But that is one really weird bug.
Something interesting I discovered. While I did get a new battery, I decided to do some experimenting. Researching this issue a lot of people said you need to delete the "battery file". There even use to be a option in CWM to remove this file. The thing is the file is deleted every time you plug in the device. So that is not going to help.
Further digging found that some devices you need to plug them in and let them charge. Or run them down for say 20-30 minutes without sleeping then plug in and let it charge fully. For some devices this "resets" the battery management system.
What I found in my tests is the battery gets harder to charge with age. While the little n light might show green, it is likely only 80% charge sometimes 90%. And it takes awhile for it to really get to 100%. What I did was let it charge up to that full 100% which may take hours. I got a nice battery app that alerts me when it gets below 25% after that things can get crazy with phantom touches. I also have it set to give a audio alert when it reaches 100%, this way I know when it is fully charged.
I know the charge it fully (when it actually says 100% and I get a audio alert when this happens) before 50% or so has helped a lot. At one point the phantom touches started to happen at higher than 25% reaching almost 35%, last time I did a test to see when phantom touches started was 17% so it is much better. Not to the level when I bought the device, but still very useable.
I will put in the new battery sometime I am sure as it is taking longer and longer to reach the full 100% (but that is normal for lithium ion batteries.) it is certainly useable in this state and the phantom touch issue is not getting worse. I think the biggest issue was charging it until the n light went green and as the battery ages, the battery manger gets thrown off for some reason and charging to the true 100% helps recalibrate it.
Therefore I would run it for 20 minutes without letting it go to sleep, then charge until it is really full (usually leave it plugged in overnight and that should do it). Do this a few times and see if the battery is better.
Oh another thing I did. Power it off fully (hold down power button then tap shutoff) then plug it in to charge. Let the charger wake, reboot, and charge the device. This I also think helps recalibrate the system. Although I never did it when I ran it for 20 minutes then charged to full. But I am sure powering off then plugging in to charge at times made a difference as well.
I've just bought one of these batteries, hoping it'll be better than my old one.
It should be. It won't be quite as it was when it was new, as these new batteries don't have the capacity compared to the originals that B&N installed (perhaps a hour or two less runtime compared to the originals). But it will be better than a well used Nook Tablet battery that is fading fast.
I don't know if I need a new battery just yet, but I am experiencing the issue of the power being killed when plugging the Nook into the wall or USB (which means transfers over an SD card, which is a pain). I only spent $5 to get it and I can see why someone might have thought it was broken, since they probably plugged it in to charge it but it wouldn't turn on while plugged in. It does charge while off, however.
What I've noticed in my experience is that if I turn it on, I can plug it in while the Nook is on the N screen, and then it'll go to the Cynoboot screen still plugged in, but the second it goes to boot the OS it turns off.
Anyone have any ideas on why it would allow itself to be on until it tries to boot to the OS?

Battery is Acting Really Strange

My phone is having issues charging even with three different cables. If I plug the phone in while it is off, it turns on and says it's charging. But it doesn't receive a charge. If the phone is on and I plug it in, it says it's charging on the lock screen, but the icon doesn't change to the charging symbol and it doesn't receive a charge. I have tried wiggle the cable a bit while it's plugged in, but that doesn't help. It doesn't seem like others are having this same issue either. Am I screwed? I also unlocked my phone. Does that mean I am double screw and Huawei won't help me?
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Hey all, here is a quick update. I spoke with a gentle from Huawei and was suppose to get a replacement sent out. However, I believe I was under volt charging the device and that's why I got those strange issues. It recharges every time from my car and my computer, but not from my wall. Kimtyson, Huawei said the exact same thing as you. Good call!
With the phone running, go to Phone Manager and then go to Power Saving and then Consumption Level. Is Cell Standby draining your battery? It is on mine.
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With the phone running, go to Phone Manager and then go to Power Saving and then Consumption Level. Is Cell Standby draining your battery? It is on mine.
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For me, it's only 2.94%. I have to say though, going from 4.3 to 5.1 was a huge difference in life battery. For the worse. I went from one charge every 3 to 4 days to once a day.
However, I believe the USB port might be broken. I don't know why though. I haven't been rough it or charged it at a angle that would put extra pressure on it.
It might be worth doing a factory reset and\or reinstalling. Could be a bad flash or something. Also, try returning to JB. Just make a TWRP backup or something so you can get back to where you are now. See if everything is working back in JB. If so, it's not the USB port.

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