6.0 compared to 6.1? - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

Ok so I install the latest Sprint rom on my Mogul. It works perfectly. I dont use HTC today plugs so I have no memory leaks. After 11 hours I still have 20mb of memory left. The phone runs stable. No freezes. I use Spb mods for all my other needs and sirius radio, tcmp, flash bundle, opera mini for all my apps and needs. I run Slingbox and Orb to connect to my home PC media. I have zero problems with the phone so far.
The reason for my post is I was wondering what the benifit to using 6.1 would be. I dont have memory problems. All of the menues work the way I need them ect.. As far as I can tell 6.1 boasts better memory management? I realy cant find any claims to fame on the MS sites for it.
Any info is a big help ty much!

If you use SMS a lot, the new threaded SMS client is MUCH better in 6.1

Question about the threaded SMS. If I backup my sms and load it back in after loading DCD's rom, will it still be there with the new SMS program? Basically, I want to keep my SMSs just like I keep my emails. Does the SMS program use the same database to store them? Will I be able to view the old ones in threaded style? Also, does it distiguish between conversations or does it just thread all the sms between you and said individual?

Also, here's one thing I found talking about 6.1 advantages.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Hands-on-with-Windows-Mobile-6.1-Professional-article-a_2477.html

The only negative I've found is that WM 6.1's PIE seems to take quite a bit longer to "render" webpages.

Poke_N_PDA said:
Also, here's one thing I found talking about 6.1 advantages.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Hands-on-with-Windows-Mobile-6.1-Professional-article-a_2477.html
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After reading those ppl's comments, I clearly realize that most people are oblivious of the capabilities of WM phones. Also, the 2nd guy says he wishes he could get WM 6.1 on his XV6800. I want to tell him that he can, but that would make me more of a dork.

hahah!! i thought the same thing about that guy and his 6800! hahahaha

Question about the threaded SMS. If I backup my sms and load it back in after loading DCD's rom, will it still be there with the new SMS program? Basically, I want to keep my SMSs just like I keep my emails. Does the SMS program use the same database to store them? Will I be able to view the old ones in threaded style? Also, does it distiguish between conversations or does it just thread all the sms between you and said individual?
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Yes, if you use PIM Backup to backup your SMS, when restored with WM6.1, it will restore it as threaded. It distinguishes the conversations. It will restore email like normal.

gcincotta said:
Yes, if you use PIM Backup to backup your SMS, when restored with WM6.1, it will restore it as threaded. It distinguishes the conversations. It will restore email like normal.
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It does not distinguish the conversations in the way that Poke_N_PDA asked. Every interaction between me and my brother, for example, gets put into the same thread. We might not send messages for a week, but then once we do, it creates the messages in the same thread as our previous messages. You end up having a single thread for each contact you correspond with by text message.

drew826 said:
It does not distinguish the conversations in the way that Poke_N_PDA asked. Every interaction between me and my brother, for example, gets put into the same thread. We might not send messages for a week, but then once we do, it creates the messages in the same thread as our previous messages. You end up having a single thread for each contact you correspond with by text message.
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I don't think I have a problem with that. It would be nice to be able to divide it yourself and start new conversations, but I can live without it.
Also, can you still view and look through messages individually like you could in 6.0? It would be really nice if they just set it up as a view option to where you could select different styles.

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Recommended threaded SMS replacement for Mogul?

I am ok with the threaded SMS included in dcd's unofficial roms but I have read that many people prefer the Treo SMS application or some other... what are the best SMS applications available for the Mogul, free or paid for?
djlenoir said:
I am ok with the threaded SMS included in dcd's unofficial roms but I have read that many people prefer the Treo SMS application or some other... what are the best SMS applications available for the Mogul, free or paid for?
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I loaded the official ROM that was released and it did not included threaded SMS.. Is there a CAB I can install?
RFinger said:
I loaded the official ROM that was released and it did not included threaded SMS.. Is there a CAB I can install?
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Although you won't find a CAB file on here for the Treo threaded SMS application (it was ripped from a Treo 750), you can find it by searching google for it. There are other threaded SMS programs that are available though that you can get a CAB for, such as this one:
PocketCM Contacts & Keyboard
Def can't deal with PocketCM is pissed me off..
Check the 6800 section of the wmexperts.com forums.
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Check the 6800 section of the wmexperts.com forums.
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Sweet thanks. I installed that cab
One thing I'm concerned about is keeping my old SMSs. I loaded one threaded SMS program and it used a different database to store SMS, so I couldn't see my old ones. However, they were still there and once I uninstalled it I could see them again. Does anyone know if any of these use the same database as the default app?
I would like to get P-SMS running in 6.1... I loved it... The one over at WMExperts.com is pretty good though.
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Nevermind... just got it going...
which one out of the two in the zip file is recommended? I don't want to reassign my email button, but where is there an sms button?
okay, i installed hte sms softkey application, however, wehn I try to send a msg i get the "you're not provisioned to send multimedia messages, message not sent".
any ideas
sending double text
I have Cody threaded sms and people are telling me that I'm sending a message 2-4 times. Does anybody else have this problem?
I uninstalled, soft reset, and reinstalled. But I don't think that fixed the problem
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I have Cody threaded sms and people are telling me that I'm sending a message 2-4 times. Does anybody else have this problem?
I uninstalled, soft reset, and reinstalled. But I don't think that fixed the problem
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ya i would also like to know.
Threaded text. Not sure if works on TITAN... worked on friends KASIER and found on the hermes forum so I would think it would work...And its a cab so no flashing
http://rapidshare.com/files/45496605/shogunmark_wm6_threaded.cab
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Sorry Fixed link
i just installed the shogun threaded hopefulkly its better than the cody threaded, but i had one question is there any way to make the calander button on the today screen to make it the smsm button like the cody threaded?
"i just installed the shogun threaded hopefulkly its better than the cody threaded, but i had one question is there any way to make the calander button on the today screen to make it the smsm button like the cody threaded? "
I believe you may be able to use a cab I have... I would attach but doesnt seem to be working right now. PM me and I can email it or sumin....Cab us called Softkey Changer... works great. Props to whoever made it.
Is the shogun threaded better??
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Is the shogun threaded better??
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Its still doubling but i think its because when i uninstalled the cody threaded sms there waqs still some files left in my phone. Because when installed the shogun all my old sms from cody was there.

Best Backup utility for SMS, Call history only

Hello,
I've done some digging both through XDA Developers and the Internet in General.
I can't seem to find a decent program (or combination) that may effectively backup up only my sms and call history--the only 2 things I keep losing every time I flash. I went on a blitz last week and tried about 4 apps, but non really worked when I tested. Once again, I only care about sms and call history. I pull everything else back in with activesync.
JTG
JerrytheGreat said:
Hello,
I've done some digging both through XDA Developers and the Internet in General.
I can't seem to find a decent program (or combination) that may effectively backup up only my sms and call history--the only 2 things I keep losing every time I flash. I went on a blitz last week and tried about 4 apps, but non really worked when I tested. Once again, I only care about sms and call history. I pull everything else back in with activesync.
JTG
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Have you tried PPCPimBackup? It works great, and you can specify what you want backed up.
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Have it and love it!
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It's the only program I use for backing up and restoring my stuff when flashing.
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/PIM-Backup-Download-35107.html
I've been using Dashwire.com. I am not saying that it is better than other PIM backup software. I just like the fact that I can access my info from work and from home. I haven't tried it yet but I am hoping that I am able to restore info from one phone to another.
It backs up contacts, pictures, videos, calls, history, contacts, messages, sms, speed dials, ringtones, bookmarks, and voicemail. And is user configurable to backup only the items that you want.
It is in beta right now and it looks like it may want to be a social networking site. It let's you update your status to Twitter and Facebook simultaneously. I'm not into that so much. But the backup and restore process was painless.
After upgrading my ROM, it was a simple download and install of the Dashwire cab, log into my account, and it was as if my phone was never wiped clean. So far that's the program that I am using. I also backed up using SPBbackup and activesync to Outlook. But those were just to cover my bases.
p.s. did I mention free?
Boomstick's right on the money. Using Dashwire you can currently transfer from phone to phone your contacts, web favorites, and speed dials (with plans to include much more). All of your photos, videos, calls, and text messages remain backed up and available in your secure web-based account. If you switch phones, all of your content continues to sync and is backed-up (as long as Dashwire is installed). We make it really easy to search through all of your content too.
Check it out: www.dashwire.com
i use PPCPIMBackup just for my sms and call history, and have gone thru several DCD rom updates with my call and sms history intact.
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I went on a blitz last week and tried about 4 apps, but non really worked when I tested.
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You should tell us which crappy ones you already tried.
Thanks all--that PIM Backup is PERFECT!!!
And sorry, I don't even remember all the apps I tried--I blew up my PC last week, and had to restore the HD to 3 months ago, so I don't have it.
jtg

[Q] Disable sms conversation

Does anybody know how to turn off SMS threated mode (conversation) and make it normal like in outlook (just classic view - sorting according to date)? I had android 1.5, than tried 2.2 and 2.1 but i didnt found any option for this. Thanks for help...
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Why would you want to go back to the old way? It was clearly worse. One of the greatest change I had from upgrading to a Hero was the conversation mode - just incredible. Why would you want to go back to a situation where you can't see the message you're replying to?
On topic - have you tried Handcent SMS and checked the options? That app is amazing.
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Why would you want to go back to the old way? It was clearly worse. One of the greatest change I had from upgrading to a Hero was the conversation mode - just incredible. Why would you want to go back to a situation where you can't see the message you're replying to?
On topic - have you tried Handcent SMS and checked the options? That app is amazing.
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thats because its sorted according to date like in Outlook. icould never use outlook with conversation mode in my work becouse it seems to me very chaotic. You only see name and number of sms, so you have to click on contact. Dont know why developers dont give us at least possibility to turn it off. i think its just a matter of small tweak or st....
The individual threads are still sorted by date though. So you still know the latest texts over the older ones, i.e. higher the contacts name the newer the text. You don't have to even look at the older texts as they're hidden in the conversation lists but available if necessary.
As I said Handcent is the most likely program to have this feature.
It's unlikely to be a "small" tweak as it requires splitting your conversations into Inbox & Outbox as well as then having multiple messages for each contact. This is a complete overhaul of the way in which it currently sorts, sends and receives messages.
btdag said:
The individual threads are still sorted by date though. So you still know the latest texts over the older ones, i.e. higher the contacts name the newer the text. You don't have to even look at the older texts as they're hidden in the conversation lists but available if necessary.
As I said Handcent is the most likely program to have this feature.
It's unlikely to be a "small" tweak as it requires splitting your conversations into Inbox & Outbox as well as then having multiple messages for each contact. This is a complete overhaul of the way in which it currently sorts, sends and receives messages.
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i dont know if you have experince with windows mobile but for disabling sms conversation i need only 50kb tweak....

Can I save my messages to...

my sd card instead off it automatically saving it to the handset memory and taking forever before I can send a text if there are a lot messages threaded together?
nope. you can either delete all your messages to help with the freezing, though it'll come back when you get a lot more messages, or disable HTC Messaging & go back to the older/better WM messaging.
A few people have been saying that the leaked 3.14 ROM doesn't lag/freeze with texts so you may want to look in to that.
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nope. you can either delete all your messages to help with the freezing, though it'll come back when you get a lot more messages, or disable HTC Messaging & go back to the older/better WM messaging.
A few people have been saying that the leaked 3.14 ROM doesn't lag/freeze with texts so you may want to look in to that.
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I can confirm this statement. The 3.14 ROM has a lot of the original bugs fixed (including slow loading when you have a lot of messages) but still if you have 300+ messages from someone it can start to get a little lag. If you don't want any at all I would recommend switching back to Windows Mobile messaging.
edit: If you use Microsoft My Phone it will back up all your messages and you can archive them online. This will allow you to delete them from your phone to solve the lagging problem without losing them permanently. If you would rather have a hard copy on your phone I'd suggest Resco Backup, it is a fabulous program. Link to both backup solutions below.
Microsoft My Phone
Resco Backup
Jeyo Mobile Companion is also a great way to backup messages. It backs them up to MS Outlook
Cheers guys, will start backing up my messages.
You can give a try to PimBackup to save your messages, too.

Can somebody please recommend a non-threaded/inbox SMS app that works on Marshmallow?

I have been using an old GO SMS version up to now, being very careful not to update it since they have removed the one feature I kept it for, the inbox. I sincerely hate the threaded stuff, I have hated it since it first came in Windows Mobile, and then on the HD2 and up. Pansi was great, but didn't work anymore because updating stopped. I have no interest at all browsing a box where I see the messages I have sendt, I want it to be like a mail program, not a social media thing (I don't even have Facebook or other social media...). So is there a non-threaded/unthreaded/inbox style SMS app out there? I have spent an hour on Play to find it, but failed.
I've used about every SMS app that's out there and I don't recall this being an option. Lemme just clarify though as it seems like an odd request to me (no offense - not odd bad, just odd different). You want an SMS app that only shows their messages to you, but not yours to them? If that's so, the only half assed work around I could think of would be one that has the ability to theme all components of the message and make the out going messages blend in to the background.
So you haven't been around very long, then? That was the only way until around 2008 for smartphones, when Windows Mobile 6 came with threaded messages. Until now there's always been apps that supports it. Basically I want an SMS app that doesn't use threaded messaging, so I can go into an inbox and see the messages I have received, not the one I have sendt, yes. But blending in doesn't help, the main thing isn't the separate "conversations", it's the separate inbox where I only see the text of messages I have received, nothing else. So just like the inbox of MS Office Outlook, if that helps. Or like K9 mail for Android, if that tells you more. I just don't see why what's widely considered the efficient way to do things in mail is so different in SMS. Almost all mail programs has one inbox and one sendt box.

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