My 2 week old Mogul died.. I have a question.. - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

My brand new mogul is having issues and Sprint is replacing. However they told me they couldn't ship me a PPC 6800 for some reason but they would upgrade me to PPC 6900 for free. I thought sweet, right? Then looked it up I realized it was the touch. My question is, is this really an upgrade? Should I be upset? The touch looks cool but no keyboard....
Should I try and complain?
Also, I unlocked my phone to use the new roms. Should I relock it or shouldn't it really matter. I will just flash back to the sprint rom.
Thanks

I wouldn't accept a Touch as an "upgrade" to the Mogul. Do you have any Sprint stores around you (the Authorized resellers, not just the ones that sell Sprint stuff)? If so, take your phone in to them and see if they can swap for you. I know from experience that pretty much every store I go into gives me a slightly different story, so chances are the store would tell you something different than Sprint Customer Support on the phone.
Definitely put a stock rom back on. Relocking would probably be a good idea too, but not as big an issue.

the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch

jarmenti said:
the touch is deffinetly not an upgrade to the mogul, other than the 128mb of ram, however i'd rather have the wifi and keyboard on the mogul, than 128mb of ram and no wifi/keyboard on the touch
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im getting a touch im sick of my huge titan i dont need a keyborad or wifi i like the touch and the way it looks and the ram

The more I read about it the better it looks. If I don't like it I will complain and see what happens. I really don't care about wifi cause how often do you really use it. I do care about the GPS and it should be unlocked shortly with the next update. I really like the RAM though. My mogul always ran low on memory. But we will see. I should have it in the morning.........

I would say it's a case of personal preference, but I certainly wouldn't call it an upgrade...even with the smaller amount of RAM, I personally would take the Mogul over the Touch any day.
And DEFINITELY flash the stock ROM back on to it!

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Touch or Titan??

I'm currently using Mogul but thinking about switching to the Touch, should I? your comments please...
I used the Touch for a few weeks and felt so lost without the keyboard. The extra ram is nice, but it is not worth the lack of a real keyboard, no wi-fi, and the screen is kind of annoying to look at. I ended up trading the Touch for another Mogul and I haven't looked back since.
If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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I feel the same. But if they had a Titan with 128 mb, I would snatch it up. The touch is MUCH peppier.
The lack of Rev A and GPS on the touch (for VZW anyhow) will be remedied in short order, no doubt.
The camera flash... I dont know, not a big deal to me. I dont know of anyone who uses their phone as their primary camera anyhow.
Really it comes down to the keyboard. "Business users" such as myself probably need it. Everyone else can get away without having it much easier.
I run Intellisync to communicate to our email system at work. I do a lot of email from the phone. Therefore, anything without the keyboard loses a lot of functionality for me. Frankly, I think the Titan is one of the better CDMA phones with a keyboard. GSM may be a different story, but our GSM signal really sucks in our town (and it's not 3G yet either).
Thanks for the comments guys. Yet, I'm still pretty undecisive about the Touch for now. Thanks though
i carry both phones (one is personal, one is a touchpoint for alltel) and i can tell you that i love my 6800 much more than the touch. i think the community behind the 6800 is larger and has more groundbreaking work going on and i also would be lost without a keyboard. given, i have been getting better with typing on the touch, it just takes some getting used to. the speed increase is VERY noticable between the touch and the 6800. i never use wifi so that doesnt really bother me on the touch. in all actuality, if the keyboard is your point holding you back, pick up a bluetooth wireless laser keyboard for a hundred bucks. that would be the difference in price (actually it would be less than the difference for alltel) and would give you a keyboard for the touch.
but how inconvenient would it be to lug around a keyboard. *let me text somebody back and lug out my keyboard*
I have heard a lot of people comment that they now type faster with the touch than with the keyboard on the titan - as long as they install a 3rd party full screen dialer -
The extra ram and smaller size are really tempting to me and I think I am just about ready to swap to a vogue. The memory issues on the titan are really starting to annoy me.
This thread should be moved to the general titan forum.
1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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that is exactly what i was thinking of. its no bigger than a cigarette box, it would easily fit in a purse or your pocket. heard mixed results about the performance, but i actually think ill be picking one up for my touch pretty soon.
I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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this isnt a classified forum. in fact this thread was designed to help make the decision between the two so how about you chime in and clarify why you dont want the touch anymore and would prefer a titan. i think the readers of this thread would appreciate that.
also, and this is just to help you, the retail value on the touch is about 100 bucks short of the titan so you might want to throw in some cash value or accessories along with the touch if you want to make a trade on a forum that allows it.
One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
old_school_dave said:
One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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Oh yes! I could no live without that. I use AE button plus and it's so convenient. the most convenient is being able to use the phone as a flastlight when it is dark.
I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
kennyidaho said:
I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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The battery, from what you have said, would be a deal breaker for me. I don't care about the keyboard and was really thinking about the vogue for the smaller form factor. But I need at least 2 days out of the thing and from the sound of it the vogue wont cut it.
I have them both, just buy you an extra battery, and all is good, i did the same thing for my mogul, 2 batterys will get you through it.
i actually have not found a problem with my touch's battery life yet. it lasts all day for me with a constant data connection and some web browsing and phone calls. using opera 9.5, btw, its the only way to browse on the touch

Touch Pro for Alltel on Nov 22... what ROM to get?

hey guys, im getting my touch pro the moment it releases for alltel on the 22nd and i was wondering what ROM i can use that will make the phone run as fast as possible... im even ok with an os that gets rid of the touch flo 3d stuff... (i sort of prefer my htc 6800's os anyways).
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hey guys, im getting my touch pro the moment it releases for alltel on the 22nd and i was wondering what ROM i can use that will make the phone run as fast as possible... im even ok with an os that gets rid of the touch flo 3d stuff... (i sort of prefer my htc 6800's os anyways).
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how do you know its the 22nd for alltel? i havent kept too up to date on it recently, but i was still under the impression there was no release date...
anyways, touchflo3d is basically just big a today plugin. so if you dont want it all you do is disable it. the OS is the same as you have on your 6800, just maybe a different build number. touchflo3d does not make your OS any different though, its just an interface.
Well first of all, 3 days ago every single alltel store in the us received boxes of Touch Pro accessories, go look on the walls and see for yourself. =P. Also thats what the tech at the store told me.
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44109&page=6
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44109&page=6
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THANKS! good ol mfg warranty may save me $599...this second replacement phone wants to get all buggy, i know it.
I am holding the alltel touch pro in my hand. Here is a list of programs on there. if anyone wnat to know anything let me know.
alltel version - no wifi, can it be enabled?
on the alltel touch pro, anyone know if it is wi-fi radio is still on the phone, is the wifi completely removed from the phone.
Can it be turned on?
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on the alltel touch pro, anyone know if it is wi-fi radio is still on the phone, is the wifi completely removed from the phone.
Can it be turned on?
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wifi is still on the phone and it can be turned on using Comm Mgr
alltel version of touch - wifi removed?
ok, now i am confused, can someone else confirm this? I spoke to alltel customer service lady, who said wi-fi was not on the alltel touch pro.
I know it is on the sprint version.
thanks
I got my TouchPro from Alltel yesterday. I can confirm that Wi-Fi is on the device and is accessible through comm manager.
I enabled it and hooked up to my work network, which is WPA protected, with no problems at all.
alltel touch pro - wifi enabled
LCJ_Eric said:
I got my TouchPro from Alltel yesterday. I can confirm that Wi-Fi is on the device and is accessible through comm manager.
I enabled it and hooked up to my work network, which is WPA protected, with no problems at all.
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Well, since your positive it is on the phone, i will go ahead and order it. Thanks for your help.
So . . . . getting back to the original question - what ROM should we Alltel folks be using? Thanks all.
guys can you confirm your RAM/ROM on your Alltel device.
i know the Verizon Pro got shorted quite a bit on memory and wanted to know what was installed. Alltel's site, as normal, includes no detailed specs.
Overall...do you like the device..would you recommend. I'm probably ordering mine tomorrow.
thanks
Jason
My Alltel TP shows:
Storage: 330.76 MB
Program: 203.24 MB
My only gripe is battery life. Of course, my 6800 sucked juice like crazy when I first got it too. Hopefully between tweaks & ROM & Radio updates it will start lasting longer.
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My Alltel TP shows:
Storage: 330.76 MB
Program: 203.24 MB
My only gripe is battery life. Of course, my 6800 sucked juice like crazy when I first got it too. Hopefully between tweaks & ROM & Radio updates it will start lasting longer.
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thanks Bill. sounds like it has the normal 288 available.
i have an acquaintance who is an Alltel engineer and he acted like he didnt like it much. said it was really gimmicky. didnt like the touch flo at all.
anyways..i guess im ordering tomorrow. im sure it will be Alltel's Flagship device for at least a year.
thanks
Will the cooked Verizon ROMs work with the Alltel Touch Pro? Thanks.

Thinking about getting a Touch Pro(Currently Have a Storm)

Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
I don't hate verizion... they just suck.
If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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If I were you I wouldn't get the touch pro through verizion. They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard. So even if you flashed the bejesus out of it, it would still have three strikes against it in my book. That and the fact that you pay the same price as the one at sprint and you don't get the memory card, headset, and if memory serves the screen protecters. Verizions touch pro is at approx. 70% memory usage just because it has the touch flow interface on, while sprints remain at about 32% under the same conditions.
*I think there was some lawsuit about the GPS bit, but i don't remember the outcome of that.
Sorry that i can't answer any of your other questions but i felt that you needed to know. So... Yeah, don't get the touch pro through verizion.
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Exactly. If you're gung-ho (or on contract) about VZW, I'd wait on their version of the TP2. I believe it's a world phone, which the original TP is not, and not only is it uncrippled I believe, it also offers a 3.5mm headphone jack which other versions may still be using the extUSB connection only.
Big Dawg 23 said:
Currently I have a Storm that has a defective screen. Verizon has sent me the trifecta of consecutive defective phones. They now asked me to find another phone. I was told any phone but the Blackberry Tour. Prior to the Storm I had a 6800 with VZW. However, after multiple issues I had to give it up.
Things I miss now on the Storm is App selection, physical keyboard and WIFI at Times. I guess most important is customization. I flashed many roms on my 6800 to open the GPS, speed it up and allow for tethering. Here are my questions I have and feel free to offer your thoughts.
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
4. How is battery life?
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
6. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the input.
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I will answer your questions one by one...
1. Is the Touch Pro just as easy to flash?
Ans: I do not know about the 6800, but the process is rather simple.
2. Does the TP gain functionality like open GPS when flash?
Ans: I do not see why it shouldn't. If the GPS is there and it only has a software lock, then erasing all of the software should take care of the problem.
3. Does flashing allow for undetectable tethering?(I have a itouch that I want to use with it via wmwifirouter.
Ans: They will always see the data usage on your plan. So, if they see large amounts of data being used by your account, they might end up assuming that you are tethering. Other than that, I don't think they can detect it (I could be dead wrong though).
4. How is battery life?
Ans: If it is anything like Sprint's TP, it sucks badly. Having said that, different roms use resources in different ways (normally far more efficiently than stock roms), so depending on the rom that you decide to flash, it is bound to get better.
5. How good is the quality of the phone?
Ans: It really depends on the network. The In-Call volume can be (and should be) tweaked by a small fix called "Audio Boost". If you do not use this, I can guarantee you that you will not be able to hear the person on the other side. Call quality in general is not too bad though...
6. Your thoughts?
Ans: I have not seen it in Verizon TP, but the Sprint TP develops something called "Newton Rings" on the screen. Basically, this is a rainbow looking rectangle in the middle of your screen (think of an oil slick). This is an issue that can render the touchscreen useless. This happens simply because the phone gets so damned hot when you use it for anything (GPS, Internet, calls, etc) that the screen gets warped and starts coming out of the phone. Your provider (and even HTC) will say that this happens due to applying too much pressure on the screen, which is BS. If you look this up in PPCGeeks you will see a rather long thread about this same exact issue.
All in all, I would not go for it. You could do what level5music is suggesting and wait for the TP2. Who knows? It could be better or just as ****ty
Hope this helps...
I had the touch pro and switched to the storm...then i switched back to the touch pro. Trust me, the touch pro is worlds better. You will come to hate the blackberry os, as i have. I thought windows mobile was bad...then I flashed to wm 6.5 yesterday after never doing it before. Its way easier to flash with xp in my opinion as I could not get it to work on vista, it always said it disconnected, but maybe its just my machine. But yes, you should get the storm, you wont get push email, but you get a KEYBOARD!
i love windows mobile but i wouldnt trade a storm for a verizon touch pro. it blows period. verizon took a great device and criples it to no better than a vga mogul, crippled cpu (note, the touch pro has enough perfomance issues already so this is worse) no g-sensor, funky keyboard with a misplaced "m" letter key, half the ram and crippled gps. i you want a touch pro, id get a sprint one and flash to verizon, otherwise the bb storm is the better choice imo
wait for the pro 2
Verizon has gimped the touch pro as far as RAM goes. (half of what other providers sell)
The problem with custom roms is that most of them will be set for pagepool designed for more ram.
There has been a new ROM released by verizon that unlocks the built in GPS. This is a good sign. I know people here are saying wait for a touch pro 2, but since verizon wouldn't allow you to get a tour i doubt they will allow a TP2.
I used a sprint version until recently and i got my palm pre to work on verizon
I've used a curve before too. I always miss my TP, even with my palm pre (not nearly enough apps yet)
If you have no choice and need a new device, verizons current offerings are weak, Id go with the TP.
The verizon keyboard is also messed up... the put the "up" key in between n and m keys.
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They slowed down the processor, took away some of the memory, took away the ability for 3rd party GPS*, took away youtube and all streaming media capability and 3 rows of the keyboard.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
my bad.
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Wrong, how can you confuse 2 columns for 3 rows?
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i'm sorry that two words out of my entire rant were wrong. my apoligies.
Save yourself the headache - i have a TP and hate it.
Been using the TP now for about 3 months. I absolutely hate this phone. There were all kinds of bugs in the stock rom, and I still haven't been able to find a ROM where everything just works. The phone is slow, buggy, and the screen really sucks. IMO.
I am currently debating the switch to Tmobile to get an android handset or the iPhone. I have always carried WinMo phones, but I just can't take the grief this one is giving me.
It looks like I am not the only one that has given the same advice. Avoid the TP at all costs unless you can get one for free.
Verizon sucks...but still a great phone.
To be honest HTC & Microsoft are the way of the future. I have a Touch Pro and my wife has a Touch Pro. We both love them sure it has its issues but what phone doesn't?? Before we got the Touch Pro, we both had Moguls and loved those and can't wait to upgrade to the Touch Pro2. I would try to wait for the Touch Pro2 if I were you and I would definitly run and hide from any Blackberry, Palm or Apple phone.
not many people have a problem with the touch pro itself, but the you are missing out on so much if you get the verizion version.
I agree with the others.
I have the TP for Sprint (using JD's latest beta ROM) and love it!!! With saying that..... there are a few things that need to be improved..... with the battery being the main one.
All in all the device is really easy to flash and to maintain, and so far it has served me well........ but my next phone will be an Android phone....... as soon as Sprint gets Android....

Sprint Official update problem

First of all, I will start by mentioning that this is my third Touch Pro from Sprint and I just want to confirm something before I take back to the store.
Is there anyone else who updated to the newest official firmware and have problems with your video playback from your albums. I had some videos stored from my old phone on a sd, and when I try to play it on this phone, it would cause a lot of jagging, freezes, audio playing while video is not. I then recorded a video with the camcorder and when I went to play back, it did the same thing. The settings I have it in is in
-CIF 352x288
-MPEG4
If its the phone, then I'm glad because I can go get myself the Touch Pro 2 at the store for free.
Things to note,
-had no problem like this on the 2nd phone
-upgraded the firmware as soon as I got home with this phone
-been like this for a while, just never cared to get an answer until now
Any feedback to a similar problem or non-exsisting problem would be greatly appreciated.
Look, if your ultimate goal is to get a free TP2, then just tell them that the phone gets unholy hot or some defect from the phone itself (battery lasting less than half a day with moderate use, etc). Believe me that the TP from Sprint has a bunch of those... If you start going by software, believe me that they will find a way to either fix it or convince you that it can be fixed with an update...
were you getting a free tp2 due to these issues?? Because im having the same issues as well including that my battery gets extremely hot and will not charge
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were you getting a free tp2 due to these issues?? Because im having the same issues as well including that my battery gets extremely hot and will not charge
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I'm curious about this myself. I was gonna get a Hero in a couple of months when my contract is up, but if I get a TP2, I might hold out for a little while.
There is a list somewhere that after a certain date, if your phone is with in the manufacture warranty of 1 year, and you have insurance of both types with sprint, you can switch out the phone to a list of 10 other phones, the TP2 and the hero being among those.
Still a sure answer on this would be great. Thanks egz on some insight. And gxt, you mean you are having problems with video playback too?
So I think I'll be going to the sprint store tomorrow, I'll let you guys know how it goes, unless I don't go that is.
Happy man said:
So I think I'll be going to the sprint store tomorrow, I'll let you guys know how it goes, unless I don't go that is.
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im guessing you didnt go...?
Happy man said:
There is a list somewhere that after a certain date, if your phone is with in the manufacture warranty of 1 year, and you have insurance of both types with sprint, you can switch out the phone to a list of 10 other phones, the TP2 and the hero being among those.
Still a sure answer on this would be great. Thanks egz on some insight. And gxt, you mean you are having problems with video playback too?
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What insurance do you have to have? Where is this list?
My 2nd tp just crapped out on me and insurance just sent me a "new" one.
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What insurance do you have to have? Where is this list?
My 2nd tp just crapped out on me and insurance just sent me a "new" one.
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to answer my own question...
http://slumz.boxden.com/f244/sprint-now-replacing-touch-pro-touch-pro-2-a-1295800/
im going to give this a shot.
Hello everybody(insert simpsons joke here), it looks like i finally went to the sprint store. After what seems like a lifetime ago, i told them the problems I had, they said they would do a hard reset, and to come back in an hour. An hour and a half later and I will be getting mnyself a touch pro 2 soon. Now the only bad part is that i need to call this store to find out when they would have any touch pro 2's in their warehouses. So at least for now, I am assed out, oh and forgive me if this comes off as bad grammer, I am typing this from my touch pro 1, the screen is too small.

[q] is htchd2 really worth it?

ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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Same here. The only time I get lockups or slow-downs are after I install certain apps.
Same here..............
Had mine since November and the only problems have been ones that Ive caused through too much tweaking.....
And a problem with T Mobiles original stock rom but that was T Mobiles fault not the HD2.......
LiL xSOULJAx said:
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
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The HD2 is a wonderful machine that gives you best performance and wonderful features.
Especially when u compares it to competitive products or the price paid.
I have HD2 , T-8585, since January and never had any freeze or self restart.
All problems I had never cased from the HD2 itself. They cased from installing soft wares which sometimes do not work properly with other soft wares. That was easily recovered with the assistance of nice guys here.
Some problems occurred from defective accessories such as croppy cheap usb-micro cable.
The HD2 is wonderful machine that can be easily converted and modified according to your needs and imagination.
Thanks for the great answers ! I think its just the T-Mobile Rom thats a complete piece of crap. Because I didnt even add anything or tweaked the first 2 phones i got and they still caused many problems within the first day no B/S. Another quick question dough, how much would it cost to buy and repair an htc hd2 LCD screen, because one of my phones screen cracked. Its not the glass outer part that broke but the inner screen.
I am agree with you all, it's a great phone fast-big screen-cool design, but....
It's worth to pay 450 euro for this phone now (AUG)?? I mean I can wait for the next generation (mabe hd3/NOV or DECEMBER) thaat will have more features like an S-AMOLED and mabe a hdmi cable, and all of that with +50 euro.
Do you know anything about new HTC phones that will be released and when, and it is worth to wait more??? Thank you!
I believe the hd2 is one of the best devices on the market. It's fast, it has wonderful features, and now it is capable of running more then one os. Even the stock winmo isn't bad if yu change the rom and don't care about downloading apps. I believe for tmo usa, the hd2 is hands down the best phone they have, other then the n1. And yes better then the samsung vibrant, which is supposed to b upgrade but doesn't even have a camera flash.my experience with samsung phones has been horrible. I don't even think froyo has been released for it. Even tho it's ported, I've been running froyo on my hd2 since late july. As for up coming phones, google htc vision aka g1 blaze. 1GHz processor, medium sized screen, slide out keyboard and android. Basically the first legit replacement for the original g1. Much better then that mediocre mytouch slide 3g. The choice is yours.personally I love my hd2, but yu might just want to wait alittle while longer.
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Btw the htc vision should b coming out before the years end. Also there is a rumored hd3 coming soon that is supposed to run wimo7. Decision, decisions lol best thing about the hd2, runs winmo 6.xx, runs linux, runs android, and most likely will run winmo7(I'm sure someone will figure out how to port it) what other phone can do that! Lol decisions decisions
*that was Sent from my HTC hd2 using XDA app*
i think its a Great phone, i love everything about it slim design customisation element big screen but unfortunately it does have its flaws eg battery life occasional freezing to name a few plus no further windows upgrade officially it looks like a dying breed imo but without the chefs on here this handset will be resurrected with android port coming through and presumably windows 7 the futures look good
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
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all that is a reset button. First it was red, then on the newer batch, it was changed to yellow.
For me, its the best windows phone I have ever used. Although if I was thinking of buying a new phone at this stage of the year, I think I would wait till around Oct-Nov or at least i'll wai for the first release of W7 and see if it is worth the wait. But the HD2's built I think is almost perfect(virtual keys at the bottom would have made it perfect for me).
Well dasz really true ! Thanksz for all da help guysz .. Ima jusz try to find the best rom out there . I wuld like sum help on dat too if u dont mind hehe This site is very supportive and useful !! Big thumbs up
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
FenderGuy said:
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
LiL xSOULJAx said:
So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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I wouldnt say that since most of the roms here seem to make it run better, but Windows mobile is crap compared to Linux.
The HD2 has the same features as my Andriod phone Google maps, You Tube, Google Browser, yet run like crap on the windows mobile phone. GPS take forever to lock on and the maps just has a differnet feel to it..Youtube runs differnet and the browser is crap
Does this phone really have a 1 ghz processor? It feels like my a phone is on 450ghz at times, again maybe window mobile requires too much?
I'm going to flash a rom on the phone since I am tired of the battery drain which is annoying
I have a Nexus One that I am in the process of selling since I like the Hd2 alot more.
The Hd2 does everything I could ever ask of a smartphone and more:
- Free turn by turn GPS directions
- Emulator gaming
- Word/Excel documents
- Bluetooth keyboard support (Android cant do this at all)
- Voice recorder
- Gorgeous 4.3' monster screen
- Tethering
I haven't had any problems with my Hd2 whatsoever. If anything Android gave me more problems than Windows Mobile. The only reason you hear about Android more is it's newer and the media want's to push it as hard as they do with Apple stuff for ratings...
I'm bored with my HD2. Because its working perfectly. I guess I need a new phone with lots of problems
I love the phone. It's design is great, the screen is amazing and the hardware is beefy. What really makes the phone though is the community and chefs here at XDA. I lose count of the amount of times I have reflashed my phone. With different ROMS, experimenting and messing around. It's a great device if you like doing that. It makes you pity the iSheep followers, really..
However, my main 2 drawbacks are this: 1) The battery life is poor.. although that is understandable with the screen and hardware it's got to supply. 2) the fact that HTC have confirmed that they will not be supporting/supplying WinMo 7 for the device. However, I hold out hope that will not be a problem for the clever guys here at XDA .

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