Is it possible to start over on Verizon XV6800? - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I cannot get my new phone to get a signal after the following:
1. 2.4 unlocker (Hard-spl-mfg.exe)
2. Sprint Rom (RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4350H_SPCS_AM_Ship.exe)
3. DCD Rom (DCD_3.0.1_Verizon.exe)
I believe I followed all of the instructions and upgraded my XV6800 from stock to DCD 3.01. When I finally get booted up I can never get a signal acquired. I can dial *22802 and let it connect and then I get a signal, but even then I get an error about the #777 internet access, so something is wrong. I new A-Keys and made sure all of my info was written down and correct.
Is there a way to start over from stock? Can I relock and put the stock Verizon on and try again?
Help!

did you.....
When you ran in the Sprint ROM did you let the customization run ? If so then there is the problem, as it overwrites verizon parms with the sprint. That can be fixed by getting the VZW PRL and running it in with the EPST, then set your home SID/NID also in EPST, then you should have VZW signal and not roaming, then a *228 should reprovision the rest. If you did not write down your info before you flashed then you missed a step.

I was under the assumption that the Sprint customizations don't run until I tap the welcome screen which I did not. I immediately installed DCD 3.01. I'm returning it to stock to see if I can get a signal then starting over.
Where can I get the VZW PRL? I will search now.

ok then they did not run
well I guess they did not run but maybe your PRL and provisioning data got wiped, MSID, MID, SID/NID, you know that stuff. There are stock VZW ROM images out there but my methode would fix it safer and easier as I am sure that the signal issue is a missing or wrong PRL. Go into EPST (##778) and select 'view' and then look at PRL which should show 50989 or somthing close as that is the current VZW PRL, a different number would be someone elses overwritten on yours, blank is no PRL which is also badd. then look at SID/NID where the first set should be populated. If you fix just these 2 things then you should get back on VZW signal and be able to provision it. Going with a full restore is like crushing and reconstituting your car when it only needs a wash and the ash trays emptied. If you do still want to though, the stock images do exist here.

I relocked and put the Verizon stock back on and went through the setup procedures and the phone works great back at stock.
I started the update over.
Installed the Unlocker.
Installed Sprint ROM. No customizations allowed.
Installed DCD 3.01
Signal does not acquire but will after 15 minutes or so and all is fine. As soon as I soft-reset.. no signal. The PRL is the 50989 the latest. All of my MSID and other numbers match.
Maybe it's the DCD 3.01. I don't know where to find 3.0.0.
I'll keep searching. Thanks madman34 for your help!!!!

I've noticed that after waiting for the signal 15 minutes, everything works wonderfully. I've tried changing the MIP MODE over and over but that hasn't worked.
Anyone with DCD 3.01 and the new Sprint ROM Radio able to get a signal without waiting 15 minutes?
HELP!

Yep, I get signal within 3 seconds.... Not sure what the issue is with your phone....? I am currently a Verizon user....

I am a Verizon user with DCD's 3.0.1 and upon soft reset get a signal within 2-3 seconds.

Hi guys, just to let you know I'm in the same boat at the OP with a Verizon phone and No2Chem's 5055. I'll start a new thread with a more descriptive title and see if we can get some additional help.

KeithGP said:
I relocked and put the Verizon stock back on and went through the setup procedures and the phone works great back at stock.
I started the update over.
Installed the Unlocker.
Installed Sprint ROM. No customizations allowed.
Installed DCD 3.01
Signal does not acquire but will after 15 minutes or so and all is fine. As soon as I soft-reset.. no signal. The PRL is the 50989 the latest. All of my MSID and other numbers match.
Maybe it's the DCD 3.01. I don't know where to find 3.0.0.
I'll keep searching. Thanks madman34 for your help!!!!
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Did you try the *22802 and hanging up? Geckotek mentioned that as a fix to the problem.
I also found that the customizations tried to run after installing DCD 3.0.1, did you let those run?

Osteo said:
Hi guys, just to let you know I'm in the same boat at the OP with a Verizon phone and No2Chem's 5055. I'll start a new thread with a more descriptive title and see if we can get some additional help.
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What city do you have service in?

I did try the *28802 and it didn't fix it for the N2C rom. Man, I'm getting depressed over this.... I'm in middle Tennessee (Cookeville), great cell coverage for both Sprint and Verizon.

Osteo said:
I did try the *28802 and it didn't fix it for the N2C rom. Man, I'm getting depressed over this.... I'm in middle Tennessee (Cookeville), great cell coverage for both Sprint and Verizon.
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is your PRL 50989?
http://www.corolada.com/prl/

lllboredlll said:
is your PRL 50989?
http://www.corolada.com/prl/
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I've gone back to stock so that's what it says now. During my 1st call to tech support they had me go over many of the EPST settings and I think that's what it said but I was so perturbed I don't recall. I'll try again (was thinking of trying DCD's most recent as he has carrier specific ROM's) and if I loose the radio, I'll check again. Thanks for the input....

Is the fundamental issue here that your installing a SPRINT rom on a VERIZON VX6800?
Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?

spreeway said:
Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?
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If I wait for VZ to release a WM6.1 ROM with GPS I could be old and gray... I'll try DCD's most recent with VZ ROM and Sprint Radio tomorrow...

spreeway said:
Is the fundamental issue here that your installing a SPRINT rom on a VERIZON VX6800?
Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?
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Spreeway, there is no such creature that enables RevA and GPS. These are enable by using the new sprint ROM (to upgrade the radio) and then a custom rom (DCD!) for verizon.

Quick update. Resolved. It was a prl issue, rolled back to an older prl and all is well. I guess I'll have to wait for an official rom from VZW to get the latest prl but all is working now.... How odd.

I am using 50989 with 3.0.1. Now that you're back to an older prl, dial *228 NOT *22802 and then press 2 at the prompt. Update the prl OTA and see if it works this time.

Tried and failed... Yesterday, once I figured out about the older PRL, I upgraded and called for a new A key. Tech support updated the A key on their side and he had me run *228 option one and when it rebooted I had no signal. I checked the PRL and it was 51020! They must have just released a new one... Rolled back with the tech on the line, didn't need a new A key and all is well since.
I still can't figure out why any of the Nationwide PRL's drop my signal but as my plan has coast to coast no roaming, I think if I get outside of my home zone it should still pick up towers (I hope but I dont travel much).
Also, I can't figure out why I can't change the roaming options in the phone options. It currently has no check infront of 'Sprint only' or 'roam only' and if I check either I loose the cell radio. Very odd!

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No More Roaming on Verizon With Sprint Mogul After 3.16 rom / 3.27 radio Upgrade

Is it just me or is anyone else unable to roam on verizon towers after the new rom/radio upgrade (3.16/3.27)? I get a recording while roaming "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, We're sorry, we're currently unable to authenticate your phone, Please try your call again. If you continue to experience problems please hang up and dial #8899 from your wireless phone"
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
What PRL do you have?
I never tried making calls but I don't roam on their towers anymore when it comes to data. I just get the triangle and 1x and no web browsers will let me connect to any sites. I kinda just gave up on it since I only needed it in the DC Metro.
I can roam with the new rom. im using prl 60610 and data roaming works as well.
kind of ironic because it didn't work before for me
1X roaming works on Alltel and VZW with 60610 and 3.x ROM here, but EvDO roaming is a no go on Alltel, even though it works fine with 60610 and 2.x ROM.
I guess you are not the only one having the problem. it's a no for me for both prl 60610/60611.
However I am only having the problme at home. I can roam onto vzw at different locations (voice and 1x data) $%^%^&#!$#@!$
People say it may have something to do w/ a-key which is blank on my phone ...
TopGun2000 said:
I guess you are not the only one having the problem. it's a no for me for both prl 60610/60611.
However I am only having the problme at home. I can roam onto vzw at different locations (voice and 1x data) $%^%^&#!$#@!$
People say it may have something to do w/ a-key which is blank on my phone ...
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Using PRL 60610. I downgraded my phone back to radio 1.40 and it worked fine but it will not work with the new one. I guess roaming had to be given up for GPS.
Problem Solved. Seems like Sprint's System wanted to do the PRL update themselves for record purposes because after I got the rep to shoot a new prl (60611) roaming worked. I then downgraded to 60610 (best one for me) and viola it stuck. everything is working now.
keeepinitgansta said:
Problem Solved. Seems like Sprint's System wanted to do the PRL update themselves for record purposes because after I got the rep to shoot a new prl (60611) roaming worked. I then downgraded to 60610 (best one for me) and viola it stuck. everything is working now.
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Ok, so how did you fix this again? Can you give me the current setup of your phone or the steps you took to get to where you are?
Here is what I have done so far:
- Flashed from 2.17/1.47.1 to 3.16/3.27 and got the no Verizon roaming issue you described.
- Figured it was an issue with the new ROM, so I then downgraded back to the stock 2.17/1.47.1 ROM from the HTCAmerica website. (The downgrade wiped all my settings for MDN and MSID) However, the issue persisted.
- I updated the PRL to 60611. Still no luck.
- Called Sprint, who initiated an over the air PRL update of their own to 60611. Still no Verizon roaming. Sprint says they are "investigating" and will get back to me, whatever that means...
The only other thing I can think to do is to downgrade again back to 2.09/1.40.
Also another question, when you view ##778#, does your phone show anything on the "A-Key" page under the "Authentication Key" setting now that you have roaming working? Mine is currently blank, and I have read a couple threads talking about needing to figure it out, but those users all seemed to be Verizon customers. I would be interested to find out if Sprint customers have that setting or not.
This issue is driving me nuts, and any help is greatly appreciated.
Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
aatreya said:
Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
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Wow. Genius! Got Sprint technical support on the phone and asked for the "HLR Reload." The guy knew exactly what I was talking about and was able to do it right away. I am now able make calls and get data while roaming (currently using 2.17/1.47.1).
Thanks again!
glad to know it worked
rfrankli said:
Wow. Genius! Got Sprint technical support on the phone and asked for the "HLR Reload." The guy knew exactly what I was talking about and was able to do it right away. I am now able make calls and get data while roaming (currently using 2.17/1.47.1).
Thanks again!
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wow, now i know what i need to do w/ my 3.16 rom
edit: got a call from spint. the tech guy said that he found an authentication failure on my account and reset it. will test the roaming again when i get home. he also had no clew what the "HLR reload" is...
edit2: whatever reset sprint did at their end seems to work. voice/1x roaming is working now, still no evdo though.
Still wont work for me *sigh*
aatreya said:
Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
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I called and had them do this, but i had no luck. Still no EVDO roaming in places where there should be. I can make and recieve roaming call and data roam in 1X but evdo is gone. This is on both the 60610 and 60611 PRL. EVDO roaming worked on both PRL's with the 1.47 radio and 2.17 rom.
Any more ideas?
well I thought I didn't have these problems, but now I'm not certain. I don't think I've ever been able to EVDO roam on verizon, at least not sice I started paying attention which was already after moving to a 2.17 with 1.40 radio and orginal PRL. I know verzion has evdo in this area, but sprint doesn't. Maybe there is no agreement here for evdo becuase of that? I guess it couldn't hurt to try this trick and see if I get it.
I found more problems using 3.16. I did encounter the roaming authentication error. So I called, got the HLR reload. That made things MUCH worse. Now nothing works. My MSID and whatnot are all correct and I see signals, but can't make calls or data connections. Sprint tried some things but nothing worked. I'm going to do a hard reset and see what happens.
Sprint was surpisingly willing to work with me knowing that I am using the test rom though... but in the end still suggested I revert to an official rom when nothing worked out.
Anyway, not sure I'd reccomend the HLR reload on the 3.16... try at your own risk.
holy crap
sorry to hear that
if you get it figured out, lemme know what fixed it.
I suspect sprint just hit the wrong button. I hard rest... still no dice, but I noticed that dialing *2 does work.. normal numbers and network don't. Seems like an authentication issue. I doubt seriously it has anything to do with the rom, but I just flash 2.17, casue otherwise I don't hink I'll get far with sprint.
Now when I try to make it call it tells me the phone has not been activated. (with 3.16 I just got the call end dings imeediately)
SO when I fix this and flash back to 3.16, will I dare to try this again after roaming gets broken again?... tough call.
Edit... still need to fix MDN and MSID in the 2.17 .. more soon.
Edit: fixed MDN and MSID in 2.17... now having the same problem as in 3.16... ding ding ding... no call. Looks like I have to call sprint again.
ON the phone with sprint now. Have rebooted for them a couple of times. This guy is still stumped and he doesn't seem generically ignorant.
I started a new thread for my issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1881522#post1881522
You might want to read it before doing any HLR updates in 3.16 though. I'm on my third rom today and a few hours with sprint tech and I still can't make calls.
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SOLVED... see above thread. It seems they messed me up badly when they did the HRL reload... however.. it doesn't have to be done badly... at least now we know the fix if it happens to someone else.. so don't let my experience stress you too much. Now to upgrade roms again.
and voice roaming works now..
Roaming not working
ahhh!!! after the upgrade, i cannot roam on vzw...
Called and spoke to several reps... no one knows what HLR Reload is... according to them turning the phone off and taking out the battery for a few minutes will force the HLR reload....
I don't know what to do.... These reps are impossible to deal with.. Anyone have any suggestions?

Ran the Sprint ROM on my XV6800, now a mess

It left all kinds of Sprint stuff in the EPST, not sure how to clean that up, or if I'm screwed.
Anyone know of a way to get it all restored back to Verizon acceptable?
I have the 2.4 SPD, Radio 3.27, and DCD 2.2.6 and expect for no phone service, love it.
I've called Verizon, they have not been helpful, I did check my a-key both before and after and it was blank both times.
Help?
Fred Rat said:
It left all kinds of Sprint stuff in the EPST, not sure how to clean that up, or if I'm screwed.
Anyone know of a way to get it all restored back to Verizon acceptable?
I have the 2.4 SPD, Radio 3.27, and DCD 2.2.6 and expect for no phone service, love it.
I've called Verizon, they have not been helpful, I did check my a-key both before and after and it was blank both times.
Help?
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I don't know if it will work, but try going into the phone app and dialing ##786 Talk
This is supposed to completely reset the device, including the EPST settings, to factory clean. You will need to restore the MSID and MDN, so make sure you know what they are. I do not know if you will need to obtain an a-key from VZW. After that you will probably need to do the *228 setup.
If that does not work, maybe reflashing the radio and Verizon ROM will help.
I've got it fixed
Thanks for the tip; while I was waiting for that I tried a number of things, one of which worked.
What I did was to reflash the stock verizon rom from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359659&page=2
Using the complete version.
This put back the original radio and rom.
When I rebooted after that, it ran some cabs on first boot. One of them was called something like ResetRadio. Anyway after that I was able to call *228 and could do both options 1 and 2. Which I could not do successfully before.
I was still getting unauthenticated messages when I tried to call anyone, and could not take incoming calls.
I then called VZW and got a new A-Key, that fixed the phone so I could call in/out, but internet access was still broken.
They had me take my battery out, while they did something on their end; after that we redid the *228 and internet access is now working. We did a test text message and that worked as well.
I think the key in all of this, is to NOT flash the Sprint ROM into a Verizon phone, but if you do, you can reflash the Verizon version to put things back in order from the link I mentioned above.
I am using a DCD rom 2.2.6, and while I am a noob on some of this, I seem to recall him mentioning that he no longer includes the extended ROM; if that includes the part that resets the radio on a hard reset, I think it's actually required for people to keep their sanity.
Hope this helps, and for those that are worried that they will screw up their phones and have no way back from the far side of disaster, I can say that I've been there and made my way back.
Best of luck to you all.
DCD 2.2.6, GPS, and yes I can even make phone calls!

Instant GPS FIX - Sprint Users Only

I decided to create a new thread because I don't think many people read the GPS sticky.
FOR SPRINT USERS:
1. Update to latest rom/radio. (Sprint carrier cab still REQUIRED)
2. Install signed_080516_7500_SPCS_2.04.sa.cab
3. Navigate to \Windows and run PPST.exe. Proceed with the update and let the phone reset.
4. To check if it was successful, go to Settings and under Device Information make sure PRI version is 2.04_003.
You should all get GPS locks within seconds with any software.
THIS IS FOR SPRINT ONLY. DO NOT RUN THIS UPDATE ON ANY OTHER CARRIER OR IT WILL SCREW IT UP.
I am not responsible for anything you do to your device.
Very cool going to try this soon.
wasn't there a reason why we weren't supposed to have a PRI above 1.x? otherwise i'm trying it now, i reflashed to have a clean start.
ill post results in a moment.
it did nothing, just downgraded my PRL to 05xxx, which ended up making me go into digital roaming.
Are you sure you aren't missing something else?
ranmasaotome510 said:
it did nothing, just downgraded my PRL to 05xxx, which ended up making me go into digital roaming.
Are you sure you aren't missing something else?
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weird, that cab does have an old PRL inside.
try this one. and dont forget to run \windows\ppst.exe afterwards.
Thx DCD...your file did worked.
weird, that cab does have an old PRL inside.
try this one. and dont forget to run \windows\ppst.exe afterwards.
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Not sure why, that cab is straight from the sprint customizations. Either way, updated first post.
thanks this worked, good work guys.
GPS is awesome now
Friendly Advisor Notice
People who haven't done this yet, should do so NOW. i get a lock on an average of 15 seconds from cold start, yes... COLD START!
And i get a lock on 9 Satellites INSIDE MY HOUSE. I can only imagine how much faster it would be outside! Cant wait for my 4GB MicroSD Card, so i can load up that TomTom software!
Before, i would get locks in around 2-4 minutes, and i would only lock to as many as 3-4 satellites.
NEW Also this well make your PRL version go to 60612, while this may be recommended, it didn't really help me much in my area, it wouldn't give me optimum EVDO coverage at all.
So be sure to check which PRL works for you, in my case 60711 was a great help.
http://corolada.com/prl/ Here is the site with the PRL's.
To update your PRL, dial ##775#. Enter your MSL Code... then update your PRL by browsing the downloaded PRL File, provided by the site i gave you. Goodluck!
Haha I'm glad you're happy since updating. I don't understand why Sprint users who complain about slow GPS and have read this post haven't done it yet.
Thx gc14... gps now works perfect. What dif between 60612 and 60711 prl?
Thx gc14... gps now works perfect. What dif between 60612 and 60711 prl?
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Always go with the latest available PRL as it updates your roaming capabilities. The only reason this update installs the older PRL is because at the time this PRI update was made available, 60612 was the latest PRL. I'm going to update the first post and include the latest PRL.
I was just reading on ppcgeeks bout PRL's
60612 - latest evdo phone prl
60711 - latest data card prl
Any truth to this?
I was just reading on ppcgeeks bout PRL's
60612 - latest evdo phone prl
60711 - latest data card prl
Any truth to this?
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Yes and no. Data cards get updated to 60711, but it is also compatible with phones.
gc14 said:
I decided to create a new thread because I don't think many people read the GPS sticky.
FOR SPRINT USERS:
1. Update to rom 3.1.2 and radio 3.39.10. (Sprint carrier cab still REQUIRED)
2. Install signed_080407_7500_SPCS_2.03.sa.cab.
3. Navigate to \Windows and run PPST.exe. Proceed with the update and let the phone reset.
4. To check if it was successful, go to Settings and under Device Information make sure PRI version is 2.03_003.
5. This PRI update installs the PRL that was the latest at the time. Dial ##775# and enter your MSL (which can be generated from your hex ESN using GetSPC) and update your PRL to the one I've attached.
You should all get GPS locks within seconds with any software. (Keep GPSMode set to 2, NOT 4 in the registry)
THIS IS FOR SPRINT ONLY. DO NOT RUN THIS UPDATE ON ANY OTHER CARRIER OR IT WILL SCREW IT UP.
I am not responsible for anything you do to your device.
A fix for other carriers is being worked on and tested. Once it's validated, a WIKI page will be published with step by step instructions.
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would i be able to use this on my wife's Touch?
i am on cricket, i have an alltel 6800 though, so I am not using either, would it be bad to use this or even beneficial? I can go back and load the cricket PRL
i just want to check back in and say that this works really well. my mogul gets a fix in no time. i dont know why this thread isn't 10 pages long with all the trouble we've had with GPS in the past. what does this do specificly that makes my mogul get 6 satellites WHILE INSIDE. is it new drivers, reg tweeks, something else? i'd love to know. i'd also would love to know if this would work on my wife's sprint touch. i might just test it out on her phone anyway if i don't get an answer here. thanks again for this fix.
here is a bump for this thread!
this worked like a charm on my mogul....i now can see lots more sats than before...i'm currently running no2chem's 3.49 kitchen
this should be stickied for the sprint users
Iphone dialer
I'm on the iphone dialer and ##775 doesnt do anything (neitehr does ##775#).
Is there another way into the PRL updater?
Sorry I've been away for a bit...
I was just a little busy watching the Celtics DOMINATE their way to an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!
Detroit may be Hockeytown...but Boston is EVERYTHINGELSETOWN!!!!
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verizon question

ok this is what i did....i started from stock rom and upgraded my radio and rom to the newest available from dcd ( dcd 3.2.5 and Radio ROM 3.42.50).......i ran the verizon carrier CAB and for some reason when i dial #228 or any other kind of numbers for verizon it rings and goes to the recorded sprint guy giving me an error....any body know why???
you *MIGHT* have to soft-reboot first, I'm not sure.
Actually wait - did you say Sprint guy?
scrawnyb said:
you *MIGHT* have to soft-reboot first, I'm not sure.
Actually wait - did you say Sprint guy?
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yea the spring guy, you know how they have different people for each service, like we have the lady for verizon and there is that guy for sprint?....well i am getting error messages from him
it might be a A-key issue, but i never heard of a sprint guy on a verizon network *228 phone call.. you pressed *228 and not #228 right?!?!
madjokeer said:
it might be a A-key issue, but i never heard of a sprint guy on a verizon network *228 phone call.. you pressed *228 and not #228 right?!?!
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yep im doin *228....and i just got a new a-key and everything from verizon before i upgraded....the first time i ever got on sprints network was when i accidently let the customizations run when i had to use their official rom update to upgrade my radio a few months ago and i found that i could still make phone calls and texts but had no data....and since the signal was significantly better i kept it that way when i put dcds rom on my phone.....well since this new radio releases people have been saying they get better signal so i wanted to test it and started from scratch but somehow i am on sprints network still and i havent let any kind of customizations run at all
bump...........
colton1118 said:
yep im doin *228....and i just got a new a-key and everything from verizon before i upgraded....the first time i ever got on sprints network was when i accidently let the customizations run when i had to use their official rom update to upgrade my radio a few months ago and i found that i could still make phone calls and texts but had no data....and since the signal was significantly better i kept it that way when i put dcds rom on my phone.....well since this new radio releases people have been saying they get better signal so i wanted to test it and started from scratch but somehow i am on sprints network still and i havent let any kind of customizations run at all
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you let the customizations run... thats why.
Your phone is 'stuck' on Sprint's network until you relock, flash back on the Verizon stock ROM, and get a DMU/data reset.
The first part is easy, but getting them to do a DMU reset for your data (if you even need it, which isn't clear at this point) is kind of a pain in the ass from what I've heard.
See this link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
scrawnyb said:
you let the customizations run... thats why.
Your phone is 'stuck' on Sprint's network until you relock, flash back on the Verizon stock ROM, and get a DMU/data reset.
The first part is easy, but getting them to do a DMU reset for your data (if you even need it, which isn't clear at this point) is kind of a pain in the ass from what I've heard.
See this link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
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i didnt let any customizations run
happened to me to once
Are you in an area with a weak signal? if you are go to a place where you hava good "Verizon" signal and try again. Worked for me!
colton1118 said:
but somehow i am on sprints network still and i havent let any kind of customizations run at all
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You are contradicting yourself now...
colton1118 said:
the first time i ever got on sprints network was when i accidently let the customizations run when i had to use their official rom update to upgrade my radio a few months ago and i found that i could still make phone calls and texts but had no data....
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Once you let Sprint's customizations run, they stick until you undo them by reflashing to a Verizon ROM (Stock with all the settings and stuff)
Does it say Sprint instead of Verizon Wireless wherever your phone indicator is? If so, you are on Sprint's Network...
scrawnyb said:
You are contradicting yourself now...
Once you let Sprint's customizations run, they stick until you undo them by reflashing to a Verizon ROM (Stock with all the settings and stuff)
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i am referring to when i first started using custom roms....i undid everythig and started from verizons stock rom when i started trying to install this new radio and rom......
Does it say Sprint instead of Verizon Wireless wherever your phone indicator is? If so, you are on Sprint's Network...
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it says vzw (i ran the cab when i first installed the rom and radio).....but for some reason i am getting sprint error messages when i try to dial the *228....this go around i havent let ANY customizations run....i even used the kitchen for dcd 3.2.5 and unchecked the box for UC Autorun
colton1118 said:
i am referring to when i first started using custom roms....i undid everythig and started from verizons stock rom when i started trying to install this new radio and rom......
it says vzw (i ran the cab when i first installed the rom and radio).....but for some reason i am getting sprint error messages when i try to dial the *228....this go around i havent let ANY customizations run....i even used the kitchen for dcd 3.2.5 and unchecked the box for UC Autorun
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You may still be stuck with a Sprint PRL/PRI or whatever.
Um, if I can find a way to export mine, I can upload it for you to import...
P.S. customizations on custom roms like DCD should be allowed to run, as they don't contain carrier-specific information, unless noted to have so.
scrawnyb said:
You may still be stuck with a Sprint PRL/PRI or whatever.
Um, if I can find a way to export mine, I can upload it for you to import...
P.S. customizations on custom roms like DCD should be allowed to run, as they don't contain carrier-specific information, unless noted to have so.
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k after u try to find a way to export i will redo everything and let the customizations run....thanks for the help
colton1118 said:
k after u try to find a way to export i will redo everything and let the customizations run....thanks for the help
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Yeah, if you get it working on Stock finally (like everything working again, calls and data and everything), then just follow my guide to getting updated.
I'm gonna keep looking to see what I can come up with.
scrawnyb said:
Yeah, if you get it working on Stock finally (like everything working again, calls and data and everything), then just follow my guide to getting updated.
I'm gonna keep looking to see what I can come up with.
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i have no problem getting it to work on stock
colton1118 said:
i have no problem getting it to work on stock
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So when you go back to stock, EVERYTHING works? (Calling, Data, MMS, etc...) ?
scrawnyb said:
So when you go back to stock, EVERYTHING works? (Calling, Data, MMS, etc...) ?
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yea i got it all working before my previous upgrade.....i guess i will try starting over again and follow your guide and see what happens
i had an AT&T message once when i tried doing *228 2 one time. wicked weird. i did *22899 first and let the phone reset then did *228 2 again and programmed successfully
kflipproductions said:
i had an AT&T message once when i tried doing *228 2 one time. wicked weird. i did *22899 first and let the phone reset then did *228 2 again and programmed successfully
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i cant do *22899......it says the feature code i have entered is not valid
I laugh a little every time I see someone post about *22899. *22899 does NOTHING different than dialing *228 option 1. It simply overrides the prompt and is used by Verizon during activation or troubleshooting so they can dial it and put the phone down to work on other stuff.
For some reason, people think it's like this secret magic fix and it absolutely is not.

Alltel/Verizon Question...

I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
GeLopez said:
you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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Yeah, I tried that, but since I'm already out of my home area, it doesn't work. All I get is "programming unsuccessful" or something like that.
Alltel's pda support is pretty good. Call in & get one of them on the line. They will try & make you do the *228 thing. Also check your setting for Home Only/Roam and see if that makes a difference at all.
dlundy said:
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
btonetbone said:
Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Thanks for trying to clear things up but its still a little inconclusive. You said he is an Alltel Customer, you also said that Verizon bought Alltel.. Now remember he says he has a "Alltel Branded" TITAN.
If Verizon bought Alltel that means the Carrier Alltel still exists, it wasnt a merger correct?
Ok then, if he has a Alltel TITAN, and he is an Alltel Customer, with my Alltel ROM. Why even mention that VERIZON will not take Alltel phones onto their network??? You said he is an Alltel customer, and he has a Genuine Alltel TITAN, so he would be activating the Genuine Alltel TITAN on Alltel..
I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
I think the downloaded PRL should do the trick. I used to work for Alltels data support and they cannot help unless you are on network. If you are roaming on another carriers tower then nothing can be done to manually push a new prl through to the phone. I know from experience that Orlando/Kissimmee area is a tricky area. The issue is that Alltels PRLs are very crappy. There are towers in the area which will not incur you roaming charges, but for whatever reason, the phones will not choose to connect to. I forget the SID of the towers in the area which will get you 3-4 bars of EVDO coverage. What I have done before while I am there is to keep checking your phone to see if it picks up on those towers (it will from time to time). Go and check the current SID number and then set that as your home SID and put the phone in home only mode, which will lock you into those group of towers while you are in that area. Of course, if you leave the area you will want to set your phone back to your normal home SID and take the phone out of home only mode. Hopefully the PRL update via that download link above will help you, but if it doesn't then try this method. I will warn you that if you get the wrong tech on the phone and they try and help you update your phone, then they could make matters worst for you.
so, like i said on post #2 update your prl!!! by any means.
RyanMogul6800 said:
...I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
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LOL, if my post was confusing it's because I'm pretty confused. I went to the Verizon store for several reasons.
I am out of my home area and the nearest Alltel Store is 75 miles away (Tampa,FL).
My Home Store is now a Verizon Store.
I recieved a letter telling me that I was now on the Verizon Network.
When I dial a wrong number I get a Verizon recording.
I heard that Verizon bought Alltel
When I got to the Verizon store, they told me
I was still an Alltel customer
Verizon doesn't carry a phone llike mine (PPC6800)
My phone was a pocket pc phone not a smart phone (yes that's what he said)
There was nothing he could do.
Call Alltel tech Support (he was kind enough to give me their number).
The Alltel guy, though courteous and seemingly genuine in his efforts to help, could not. He even mentioned that he had been in Orlando recently and had the same problem. His only recommendation was to take the battery out overnight so everything would clear and maybe when it reconnected it would update the PRLs.
My apologies for not being more clear.
On a positive note, I took btonetbone's advice and updated the PRL,(this is what I'd hoped the Verizon tech could do) and I am currently getting EVDO connection, at least the status indicator says so. I'm not getting a very good signal where I'm at so the speed is not great. 267 DOWN, 314 UP (oddly enough) on a Speakeasy speed test. I'll see how it works tomorrow when I can get a better signal and know more then.
Thanks to all who have responded, I understand things a little better now.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM...
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Had the Alltel ROM not worked so well in my home area that's exactly what I would have done. Well.... It's exactly what I would have done after coming here and finding out how to do it.
Thanks for your hard work...
No problem I am glad you got it sorted out, those speeds are better than nothing at all so you are getting somewhere. Also I breezed by your compliments on my work but thanks for the compliments.
Members in general are great here, very knowledgeable and persistent. This is literally the best forum around.. Too bad they dont go the "thanks button" route though that would be magnificent.

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