Original HTC Case - Touch Cruise Accessories

Hallo,
I lost my case that was originally shipped with my Polaris. I loved that case. Does anyone know where I can buy this?
Thanks

Any ideas? I see more than 300 clicks.....

Try HTC online shop.
Their online shop has all the original accessories that you might want. only buy original.

I already tried that, nope no original case for the TC

schabba said:
I already tried that, nope no original case for the TC
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My O2 orbit2 did not come with a case of any sort. But Ibought a pouch case from HTC for Htc Touch Cruise and I am pretty happy with it at £10.00 ;-)

Maybe you can relace it with something like this:
http://www.beyzacases.com/cat-htc-touch-cruise--slimline-leather-cases.cfm
It's very similar to the original and has excellent quality.

these are beautiful
Corinna said:
Maybe you can relace it with something like this:
http://www.beyzacases.com/cat-htc-touch-cruise--slimline-leather-cases.cfm
It's very similar to the original and has excellent quality.
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and they look the business too. Might get one ;-)

redjupiter said:
and they look the business too. Might get one ;-)
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I completely agree. If I was going to replace my Touch Cruise case, that would be the ONLY way to go.
Many on this board (not this thread) seem to have the wrong idea, and are going for either cases that are way too thick/bulky, ugly, or cheap looking.

@Sonus,
when you replace your original case, will you sell it ;-)
But I had also a look to the site and they look great.

I have one of the Beyza cases - the black croc skin-style one.
Here's a 20% discount code: CAD9WINDOWSMOBILE247

Thanks for the discount code, but unfortunalty I already ordered one without that code

redjupiter said:
My O2 orbit2 did not come with a case of any sort. But Ibought a pouch case from HTC for Htc Touch Cruise and I am pretty happy with it at £10.00 ;-)
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I bought it 19€ in Munich Airport..
It's very well

redjupiter said:
Their online shop has all the original accessories that you might want. only buy original.
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redjupiter:
Could you give me a user opinion on the Orbit 2, I've had a Mini-S and currently using the 02 Xda Orbit, with 4.01 ROM, but I'm due my U-Grade soon and want a current user opinion who has had the same phone I have.
Your opinion will be much help, as I'm also thinking of leaving 02 and getting the Touch Dual from T-Mobile.
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Xda Orbit - ARTEMIS TOUCH 4.01 WWE - FULL WITH CUBE Meschle
Xda Mini-s - WM 5

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Where to Buy Faceplates / Housings

Hi all,
I think I've searched all sites I know of but am still unable any that offer faceplates or complete housings for our Touch HD (yes, I'm one of those who have the issue with the coating of the faceplate)
Does anyone have a good reliable source which could have them yet?
Thanks in advance.
www.pda-parts.nl
Thanks, but that's one of the sources I know. They don't seem to have what I need.
Or maybe my Dutch is so bad that I cannot search efficiently?
for anyone reading this.. i think he means.. replacement housing for the phone.. the actual pieces from the phone.. NOT extra phone cases or covers..
Of course, I need a replacement faceplate. I thought it was clear enough
i know its .....
probably not what you'll want to hear, but your probably not going to find anywhere other than htc for replacement housing, they'll keep those moulds well under raps.
then your faced with the warranty validity if you manage to source some parts. who's ur service provider, and i'm sure you'll get a warranty replacement due to your devices freezing up / locking all the time. contact them and moan!
i'm sure someone, somewhere will be able to replace due to its software faults!
Full housing+Digitizer on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-HD-T8...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
gastko1 said:
Full housing+Digitizer on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-HD-T8...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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E-bay is a good source for replacement parts.
Sometimes you can get real good bargains.
gastko1 said:
Full housing+Digitizer on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-HD-T8...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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that is very pricey !!
gjpax said:
that is very pricey !!
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Much cheaper than the iPhone digitizer though. That is truly outrageous.
http://cgi.ebay.com/full-housing-fa...|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:34|294:50
2 times heaper, damn them all.
Here's another one for $100.00 including the Screen. (Complete set)
http://ishop-express.com/info.php?itno=413
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/18535.htm
UK - in stock
Replacement housing without digitizer http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03867
what about here, I bought a HD desktop cradle from them then they sent me their online store link.
http://www.ishop-express.com/info.php?itno=413
I found they even have the 2500mAh battery for HD avaiable.
http://www.ishop-express.com/info.php?itno=427
how easy is it to replace just the case? I dropped mine and it scrathced really badly...
how easy is it to replace just the case? I dropped mine and it scrathced really badly...
ekerbuddyeker said:
how easy is it to replace just the case? I dropped mine and it scrathced really badly...
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I got my new case from Shenzhen (free of charge, but my Chinese partners had to pay for it here: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/218220985/housing_for_HTC_touch_HD.html ), but I still haven't had time to visit a service center

Lost my original case

damn it, I lost the case for my touch hd. Does someone know, where to buy a new (original) one? I dont like the leather-cases, I just need a nice soft-case.
bug-i said:
damn it, I lost the case for my touch hd....
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Lucky bastard! That thing is awful.
I found this iPhone case on DealExtreme. Cost me only $1.68, shipping included. Cheap one to use in the gym. Couldn't fit any better, has fleece on the inside and feels overall hundred times better than the original one. I strongly recommend it even though it has a really ugly logo on it.
iphone? don't use such foul language in these forums
I would of given it free but it went in the bin after about a week.
i've got a new unopened one you can havw for £10 + p+p. let me know
jouh said:
Lucky bastard! That thing is awful.
I found this iPhone case on DealExtreme. Cost me only $1.68, shipping included. Cheap one to use in the gym. Couldn't fit any better, has fleece on the inside and feels overall hundred times better than the original one. I strongly recommend it even though it has a really ugly logo on it.
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thanks, for 1,68 I'll give it a try! is there always free shipping? cant imagine that they are making any profit. 1,68$ including shipping to europe. crazy!
bug-i said:
thanks, for 1,68 I'll give it a try! is there always free shipping? cant imagine that they are making any profit. 1,68$ including shipping to europe. crazy!
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Yes, always free shipping. I often buy gadgets, cables and stuff like that from them. Doesn't get any cheaper than this.
i used the original case for few days, then itz all covered by my cat hair:<
bug-i said:
damn it, I lost the case for my touch hd. Does someone know, where to buy a new (original) one? I dont like the leather-cases, I just need a nice soft-case.
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Oh! again. How many times I have told that one who care for his things cares for himself. This time I am not going to suggest good things replacement. Rather as you dont care loose this HD also and buy new one you get free case.
Dont ask me where you get only cover. Learn to care.
No! dont look at my HD case or ever imagine I am going to suggest good things now on.
May god bless your HD and you.
Just cut a sock in half.
danum said:
Just cut a sock in half.
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That'll look great on a $800 phone!
Yeah, HTC thought so.
you can have man. you just have to pay the shipping
I picked up one of THESE on ebay.
I prefer this style to the velvety black original one that came with the phone. It's also a bit thicker and the rib around it adds some drop tolerance to the phone when it's in the case.
This is a lot like the one that came with my Elf when I got that.
kg4ever said:
i used the original case for few days, then itz all covered by my cat hair:<
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I rather like the case provided. It just works. My only gripe is that it does attract fluff and stuff.
Having said that, I am awaiting HTC's silicon case. I'll be comparing the two, then making my mind up which to stick with.
Arrr, lost mine too. Actually quite liked it. Does anyone want to sell me theirs cheaply? Not £10 though, I'll get HTCs official case for that.
£5 inc p&p for an as new condition?
foaf said:
Arrr, lost mine too. Actually quite liked it. Does anyone want to sell me theirs cheaply? Not £10 though, I'll get HTCs official case for that.
£5 inc p&p for an as new condition?
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Hi,
I have a spare original if you still need one.
Pm Me if interested.
Nogs
pay for the postage and buy me a pint and ill send you mine
although i cant imagine why anyone would want the damn awful thing, offers no protection, looks cheap and the stylus falls out everytime you remove the HD from it
but mines sat here on the shelf if you want it.
first to reply in here gets it as i dont want shed loads of pm's saying "is it still available"!!!! lol
I use the original case to take the fingerprints off the screen!!!! it works perfect!!!!
Does anyone still have one of these? Willing to pay pp and a bit extra.

Got my case for my Tmobile TP2 from PDair...doesnt fit...

Lesson learned, it looks like it was for the HTC Touch Pro 2. Dangit....Just wanted to share with you guys to make sure you get one that fits your particular model.
There seems to be a problem with vendors understanding the T-Mo TP2 has a different form factor than the Euro version. I am returning my cradle for the same reason. Be careful when buying an accessory that it will fit your US model. First time I have seen this problem with phones. Your TP2 is a special device ... I like mine very much. Pity that we have to be the ones to tell them their products don't fit our phones...
cavenger said:
Lesson learned, it looks like it was for the HTC Touch Pro 2. Dangit....Just wanted to share with you guys to make sure you get one that fits your particular model.
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cavenger said:
Lesson learned, it looks like it was for the HTC Touch Pro 2. Dangit....Just wanted to share with you guys to make sure you get one that fits your particular model.
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Where did you get it?
same here, got one from a seller in HK for 6 bucks shipped to US
doesn't fit.
anyone wants the TP2 case made for non tmobile tp2 can send me a PM, pay for shipping and it is yours.
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_1.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_2.jpg
this is the one i got.
It's because the T-Mobile "Touch Pro 2" isn't really a Touch Pro 2 like you can get from everywhere else, it's a slightly-altered version.
Thank T-Mobile. This way, you can get all your accessories direct from them! How great will that be! It really is better for everyone.
testaccount said:
same here, got one from a seller in HK for 6 bucks shipped to US
doesn't fit.
anyone wants the TP2 case made for non tmobile tp2 can send me a PM, pay for shipping and it is yours.
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_1.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_2.jpg
this is the one i got.
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i almost bought that one, but i didn't because we don't have the front camera, so that hole made me suspicious.
only T-mobile have the entire phone remodeled... sort of
while Sprint/Telus versions widened the bottom end where they added a 3.5mm jack, so some of the rubber cases won't fit
However I just recently ordered a slide-in pouch from pdair which SHOULD work on ALL TP2s... because it's just it... a pouch... no fitting needed, just enough space to slide the phone in... or any other thing that has the same dimension... sort of
this one by the way:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000654&products_id=19445
zedex26 said:
only T-mobile have the entire phone remodeled... sort of
while Sprint/Telus versions widened the bottom end where they added a 3.5mm jack, so some of the rubber cases won't fit
However I just recently ordered a slide-in pouch from pdair which SHOULD work on ALL TP2s... because it's just it... a pouch... no fitting needed, just enough space to slide the phone in... or any other thing that has the same dimension... sort of
this one by the way:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000654&products_id=19445
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This is exactly what I'm looking for - a slide in pouch. Please post pictures when you get it.
cavenger said:
Lesson learned, it looks like it was for the HTC Touch Pro 2. Dangit....Just wanted to share with you guys to make sure you get one that fits your particular model.
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Which Case did you get from PDair?
testaccount said:
same here, got one from a seller in HK for 6 bucks shipped to US
doesn't fit.
anyone wants the TP2 case made for non tmobile tp2 can send me a PM, pay for shipping and it is yours.
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_1.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/circle607/13753_2.jpg
this is the one i got.
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I hate those case for slide up phones. The phone is already big as it is. With that case it will add weight and size to it.
I decided to use my phone just the way it is and get a hip case (EASECASE ) and call it a day. I will try and be VERY careful not to drop it.
i just bought a gel case from tmobile for 12 bucks. it adds a couple mm to the overal size of the device but it feels good in the hands and isnt slippery like the phone with out it. the only color they had was black and its not on they're website, only in the stores right now. i am quiet pleased with it.
HeavyComponent said:
I hate those case for slide up phones. The phone is already big as it is. With that case it will add weight and size to it.
I decided to use my phone just the way it is and get a hip case (EASECASE ) and call it a day. I will try and be VERY careful not to drop it.
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lol, i am using mine with my tmobile dash (c720) case (with belt clip)
Man Thanks alot for being the guinea pig, SORRY no intent to insult you but I almost bought the pdair case. They are nice and alot of people have said good things about them. I was one click away from purchasing the case for my T-mobile touch pro 2 and i stumbled upon your thread. Its a shame that we are so limited to what we can put this beast in. I currently have my procilla ( thats what I call her lol) in my old sprint mogul ppc 6700 case.
godefroi said:
It's because the T-Mobile "Touch Pro 2" isn't really a Touch Pro 2 like you can get from everywhere else, it's a slightly-altered version.
Thank T-Mobile. This way, you can get all your accessories direct from them! How great will that be! It really is better for everyone.
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Accessories from T-mobile!? ROFLMAO!

HTC Titan - Cases/Shells?

Hi,
does any of you spotted quality cases/shells for the HTC Titan x310e somewhere?
Contacted Case-Mate to know if the ones for the Sensation XL work for the Titan but they said no. (Probably because of the round border on the Android ones).
Thanks.
Would be good if we had a titan sub forum for this sort of question
Sent from my TITAN X310e using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
adesonic said:
Would be good if we had a titan sub forum for this sort of question
Sent from my TITAN X310e using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Yah, the number of Titan related questions and the increasing amount of owners warrants its own forum already.
I got my case from ebay.
Its a very good fit.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390338584272?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Others suggestions? I live in canada and either the seller doesnt ship to where i live, or there is a 15-25days delay for a single cover.
Any suggestion from US/Canada?
Thanks in advance!
Still no titan sub forum, although another new android one I notice, is this now android developers? ;-)
Sent from my htc titan using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Avandor said:
Yah, the number of Titan related questions and the increasing amount of owners warrants its own forum already.
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Absolutely ! I agree .
I just ordered this case, told you about when I'll got it
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320749362244
I found a similar site in Amazon.com
tenzin, I was looking at that same case, tell us how the buttons work thru the side slots please.
Dragon Queen said:
I found a similar site in Amazon.com
tenzin, I was looking at that same case, tell us how the buttons work thru the side slots please.
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I just ordered it yesterday , i'll tell you that after reception
I've been keeping my eye on this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-titan-hard-case-with-kickstand-hc-c652-p32512.htm
Looks really nice, but a bit pricey. I might buy it when available.
Looking for book case type for titan. Cant find it anywhere. and not many choices out there as well.
tenzin said:
Absolutely ! I agree .
I just ordered this case, told you about when I'll got it
XDA CUT THE LINK here
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Does the job but there is a small problem with charging the phone
The case is so thick that the mini USB plug is too short, which means every time you want to charge your phone you have to take it out of the case or take the phone out of its original case (like the way getting access to battery/sim)... and loose the signal.
I like this one. Inquired if one is in the pipeline for the Titan.
http://www.expansys.co.za/power-skins-powerskin-for-htc-sensation-220004/
http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/ IMG_20111110_145923
http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/ IMG_20111110_151130
http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/ IMG_20111110_150125
http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/ IMG_20111110_150849
sorry,my photography skill not good.the entity case looks better cool than pics.
barely hard case here,dont worry about quality.Nillkin,Rock they are good brand in east.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150688515...15985&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
uowieczka said:
Does the job but there is a small problem with charging the phone
The case is so thick that the mini USB plug is too short, which means every time you want to charge your phone you have to take it out of the case or take the phone out of its original case (like the way getting access to battery/sim)... and loose the signal.
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Weird ... because I got not at all this problem ; all is ok with plug-in micro-USB slot , I never take the Titan off the case since I installed it
Are you sure it's the same case ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320749362244
But I have to cut the thin part to access easily to sound ans camera buttons (on the right size), very easy to do :
And now I'm totally satisfied with this case , good protection, and not thick at all
In general, I bought Vaja or Piel Frama (a lot more expensive !), and even if this one is not of the same quality (it's not leather) it does perfectly the job. Don't know if I'll change for one of those when they made a case for Titan ...
I found a good leather horizontal one from "eden park" brand. I will post a photo later from my PC.
Sent from my TITAN X310e using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Wevenhuis said:
I like this one. Inquired if one is in the pipeline for the Titan.
http://www.expansys.co.za/power-skins-powerskin-for-htc-sensation-220004/
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Inquired PowerSkin. It is not in the make of yet, but are considering it. One is already available for the HTC Sensation, but won't fit the Titan.
I found these by PDAir ... they also sold product on amazon. It seems really nice but I can't find any review. People on the net seems to complain a lot about their shipping which can take up to 20 days. Sorry I am not allow to post link yet. But do a search on Amazon or google PDAir and they have several products.
I bought a Noreve HTC Titan Tradition leather case (http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/HTC_Titan_Tradition_leather_case.html)
I will make a test for you and some photos when I receive it
Can someone please post more photos of their Titans with Cases? Thanks.

BEST 3D Diamond skin EVER!

hi everybody,
please can you help me out to find where to buy this beautiful 3D Diamond skin for my XZ Premium?
i looked up in ebay and amazon and i didn't find!
i attached 3 pictures of it..
thanks for you help!
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
please can you help me out to find where to buy this beautiful 3D Diamond skin for my XZ Premium?
i looked up in ebay and amazon and i didn't find!
i attached 3 pictures of it..
thanks for you help!
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I have like a carbon skin thats transparent I got from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071W8X19Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_5YJ7GpRQDhSrp
I saw loads of these once for Xperia z. I did order one for my Z2 once but it never delivered because I was informed they dont make them anymore. If you Google image rasta banana Xperia you will see loads of them appear. Try checking aliexpress though. You will most likely find what your looking for there. :good:
Look at this one I just found. Looks quite nice not sure how well things import from China though.
Edit: if you scroll through the link theres a ton more further below.
https://marcokao.com/2017/06/17/日本-rasta-banana-xz-premium-3d滿版螢幕保護貼、格紋背貼、手機殼-大/amp/
If you scroll through the link provided above theres links in there to buy some. The prices say around 340 Taiwanese dollars so dont be alarmed if they seem pricey theyre not. For this one it costs around £8-£10 including shipping. This is my favorite one but I dont think I will buy it since I already have that carbon looking one, also because im getting a case soon and I wont see the current one I have im just using that for protection.
https://tw.bid.yahoo.com/item/馬可商店-全新-RASTA-BANANA-Sony-Xperia-XZ-Premium-100362082633
@RJASSI21 Thank you so much for the effort and contribution
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
please can you help me out to find where to buy this beautiful 3D Diamond skin for my XZ Premium?
i looked up in ebay and amazon and i didn't find!
i attached 3 pictures of it..
thanks for you help!
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WoW Nice looking.
whether it can be found on aliexpress or ebay?
Nidhal AKA the king said:
@RJASSI21 Thank you so much for the effort and contribution
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No problem sorry I couldnt fimd the diamond one though. Those links seem like the only way to buy them.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
@RJASSI21 Thank you so much for the effort and contribution
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Let me know if you decide to purchase any. Would like to see more images. They are very majestic I dont understand why they havent been produced in more countries, they would sell fast if more people knew about them im sure of it!
I just find out about these after sticking another back on my phone. Oh well, it's good to know they're there if I ever break mine.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
please can you help me out to find where to buy this beautiful 3D Diamond skin for my XZ Premium?
i looked up in ebay and amazon and i didn't find!
i attached 3 pictures of it..
thanks for you help!
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http://skinzone.eu/ I didn't find the 3D Diamon Skin, but I found this site that offers a very big variety of skins for your XZ Premium, hope you like it.
RJASSI21 said:
Let me know if you decide to purchase any. Would like to see more images. They are very majestic I dont understand why they havent been produced in more countries, they would sell fast if more people knew about them im sure of it!
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I ordered the checkered skin for the back. Will take some pictures when I have it on my phone but probably won't get it till after the holidays
This skin feels really high quality. Kinda messed up on the installation tho. Had to reapply it cause it wasn't align right so you'll see some dust underneath thru the pictures. The only negative is that it doesn't go all the way to the side of the phone since it curves (which they explain). Quite a big gap. That will probably throw a lot of you off but it looks and feel really nice in person
What skin?
gyuszi02 said:
What skin?
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Are you asking for the name of the skin? I got it from here
https://shop.brando.com/rasta-banana-sony-xperia-xz-premium-back-design-film-protector_p16380c18d8
Only one place to purchase it dude.
http://thuyngoshop.vn/film-dan-3d-trang-tri-sony-xz-premium-10353510.html
Only one place to purchase it dude.
http://thuyngoshop.vn/film-dan-3d-tr...-10353510.html
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They happen not to ship internationally.
Dang, it looks so good too.
If anyone happens to find a seller that ships internationally please share here.
Not for xzp…
Nidhal AKA the king said:
hi everybody,
please can you help me out to find where to buy this beautiful 3D Diamond skin for my XZ Premium?
i looked up in ebay and amazon and i didn't find!
i attached 3 pictures of it..
thanks for you help!
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http://www.twdevilcase.com/en/index.php?menu=prod_detail&mid=27&did=120&pid=5223&list=class
Choose in spec XZP Diamond
kv123 said:
http://www.twdevilcase.com/en/index.php?menu=prod_detail&mid=27&did=120&pid=5223&list=class
Choose in spec XZP Diamond
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Thanks so much for the share!... that was it!... but the shipping is so expensive.. its more than 6 times the price of the skin itself LOL... so it's not worth consider buying it!
I already bought a case "Ringke Fusion" for just $11(Free shipping) and It's awesome... awaiting for back cover film that I ordered...
Ringke Fusion link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3023512421...99&_trkparms=gh1g=I302351242198.N36.S1.R1.TR1
3x Front and 3x Back cover link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-Front-B...var=485206655547&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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