Downgrading Hard SPL - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

I have developed an issue with my ameo so it is going back for a warranty repair, anyway I flashed the official T-mobile 6 rom and that was fine but I still have OLIpro's Hard SPL, I have tried searching for how to downgrade, but all I found was mr Vanx's hermes guide.

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Over 120 views and not an answer, I have been searching hard, apparently I need an SSPL which will allow me to downgrade to any SPL that I want, the problem is I need the correct files for my device, and I am unable to yield results from the search.
Any help much appreciated, even if your just looking here to see how to do it for yourself, then say so! if enough people want to know how to do it, then the info might turn up somewhere.

ice_coffee said:
Over 120 views and not an answer, I have been searching hard, apparently I need an SSPL which will allow me to downgrade to any SPL that I want, the problem is I need the correct files for my device, and I am unable to yield results from the search.
Any help much appreciated, even if your just looking here to see how to do it for yourself, then say so! if enough people want to know how to do it, then the info might turn up somewhere.
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What is wrong with your ameo?
Because in my experience you can just downgrade and t-mobile won't even look @ the SPL....
I sent my Vario and Vario II twice without downgrading my SPL....

not alot just a couple of niggling issues which I can get sorted under warranty,
TBH this is useful info though, we all should know how to downgrade !

ice_coffee said:
Over 120 views and not an answer, I have been searching hard, apparently I need an SSPL which will allow me to downgrade to any SPL that I want, the problem is I need the correct files for my device, and I am unable to yield results from the search.
Any help much appreciated, even if your just looking here to see how to do it for yourself, then say so! if enough people want to know how to do it, then the info might turn up somewhere.
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Okay, you've suffered long enough...
Post #8 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
tells you how to do it...

so what your saying is that hard SPL does not exist for the athena, and that I would need to do it manually (no thanks) I guess I will take my chances with t-mobile !

if i remember correctly the unlock will load a sspl before the hardspl. find at what point its loaded and at that point flash a nbh with the stock nbh and u'll be able to send the device in for warrenty.

Pawel062 said:
if i remember correctly the unlock will load a sspl before the hardspl. find at what point its loaded and at that point flash a nbh with the stock nbh and u'll be able to send the device in for warrenty.
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please please elaborate, do you mean the same olipro unlocker that I used to unlock it, so if I understand you your saying I should halt the unlock process at some point, and then switch the nbh for a standard one (ie the original tmobile wm 5 ) which will flash on the SPL for me, this method (if im right is similar to the hard spl method)

i would have to get oli to explain this exactly. i'll have him post here once he is around.

Pawel062 said:
i would have to get oli to explain this exactly. i'll have him post here once he is around.
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thanks alot.

hi
i made the same expirience like hellejoep, i twice returned my (unlocked) ameo and the service seems not to care about it, i think there first job is to 'delete' everything and reset to factory settings before the try to fix any isue's. but anyhow it was good to know how to downgrade or at least let the bootscreen appear as the original one.
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I agree, would it be possible for OLI to do an SPL, that looked standard

ice_coffee said:
I agree, would it be possible for OLI to do an SPL, that looked standard
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u could have the info in bootloader read the old numbers but if they were to go into mtty they could still find out if the spl has been modded or not.

Pawel062 said:
u could have the info in bootloader read the old numbers but if they were to go into mtty they could still find out if the spl has been modded or not.
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in that case is there any chance of oli making an appearance here ?

ice_coffee said:
in that case is there any chance of oli making an appearance here ?
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when i see him i'll have him check here. hes busy right now just cant remember with what
edit: my guess is with the new unlocker

ice_coffee said:
I agree, would it be possible for OLI to do an SPL, that looked standard
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yeah, wanna buy it?
honestly... why to people want me to do such menial crap for them.

LOL
Olipro said:
yeah, wanna buy it?
honestly... why to people want me to do such menial crap for them.
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LOL - Oli's probably a very busy guy, ya think? I'm just happy he's doing the new AP unlocker (from what Pawel has posted, that is)... Oli, do you have a donation link?
On another note, has anyone actually been denied warranty service b/c of SPL version? I'm thinking about sending my 7501 in for a new housing and a minor touchscreen repair.

Olipro said:
yeah, wanna buy it?
honestly... why to people want me to do such menial crap for them.
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olipro though is right. its kind of a worthless thing to do. eather its stock or a full hardspl. if he did one that looked stock then htc still would look for patches and could tell if it has been modified or not. no sense. lets hope he comes bac and gives u all the guide to downgrade the spl to a stock one.

toastedlogic said:
Oli, do you have a donation link?
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Aye, Click the PayPal button in my signature and it'll (eventually) forward you through.
*puts toastedlogic on his "list of people to be nice to"

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Upgrading for newbies..

Ok this is an e-mail I got and I answered it, but I thought..lets post it for people that are interesed in upgrading there phone, but dont know what or how to do.
*Yes I know Wiki exist!
mccreath said:
Hi Mate,
Hope you don't mind the PM, but I just got my MDA Vario II replaced under warranty and have to start all over again with the customization.
I saw you had the same device and a great setup, and wondered if you could tell me the quickest/ best way to get WM6 and the ROM/Radio on mine please?
Any help would be great, thanks,
Andy
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Hi!..
If you dont know some things, read WIKI, it helps (most of the time to get an answer)
First you upgrade your SPL
dcoelho said:
And ... don't forget to flash Olipro Hasd SPL 1.40 before flash roms and radio files. This way you prevent to brick your PDA again.
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I dont got my warranty anymore because I made my phone simlock-free. *if you do this, READ that topic carefully!! *I just did it because I thought it was fun to mess arround with my phone..*and to tell you the truth..it was!
After that, you do this:
Ok..this is what I did, I installed this version of WM6 (for you notice; doing this is on your own risk.)
Then I upgraded my Radio to 1.41.00.10 (if you wanna know what that is, go Wiki)
Here you can find some great programs.
owyeah..here you can find the latest version of windows Live Messenger!
Hope you will learn something of all of this
cheers!
And ... don't forget to flash Olipro Hasd SPL 1.40 before flash roms and radio files. Thsi way you prevent to brick your PDA again.
dcoelho said:
And ... don't forget to flash Olipro Hasd SPL 1.40 before flash roms and radio files. Thsi way you prevent to brick your PDA again.
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True Thq..I'd forget to note that

Noob, just a few questions...

Well before posting I have been reading the Wiki and looking on this site. Just wanna make sure that I have it correct.
Im planning to use a Cingular 8525 on TMobile.
So first I would have to use the v3a unlocker.
Then it would be wise to make sure I have the latest and greatest radio flash for reception.
Then I can pretty much throw any ROM from any provider or source on the device that I want.
If I am missing something please let me know, Im still reading and learning.
Thanks.
Welcome aboard Vasichko. Yeah, that's about the gist of it.
I'd recommend the 1.48 radio. But the quality can depend on your geographic location, so you may need to try a few different radio builds to see what works best for you.
But, all in all, you have the basics down. Just follow all the instructions with each step you take, and you'll do great.
Vasichko said:
Well before posting I have been reading the Wiki and looking on this site. Just wanna make sure that I have it correct.
Im planning to use a Cingular 8525 on TMobile.
So first I would have to use the v3a unlocker.
Then it would be wise to make sure I have the latest and greatest radio flash for reception.
Then I can pretty much throw any ROM from any provider or source on the device that I want.
If I am missing something please let me know, Im still reading and learning.
Thanks.
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Before you flash anything I'd recommend to flash Hard-SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Here are some excellent instructions:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
TaurusBullba said:
Welcome aboard Vasichko. Yeah, that's about the gist of it.
I'd recommend the 1.48 radio. But the quality can depend on your geographic location, so you may need to try a few different radio builds to see what works best for you.
But, all in all, you have the basics down. Just follow all the instructions with each step you take, and you'll do great.
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Im in Dallas, TX, usually dont have any issues with reception with TMobile.
Now if I do the HardSPL, should I do that first before attempting to unlock the SIM and CID?
Or, will the HardSPL unlock the SIM and CID for me?
JR_de said:
Before you flash anything I'd recommend to flash Hard-SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Here are some excellent instructions:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
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Vasichko said:
Now if I do the HardSPL, should I do that first before attempting to unlock the SIM and CID?
Or, will the HardSPL unlock the SIM and CID for me?
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No,first step is to unlock it. You had that right. Use pof's v3a unlocker for that.
Second, HardSPL
Third, flash whatever ROM suits your mood for the day.
Thanks for the help guys. Did alot of reading and didnt know if I was going to have to wear a flame retardant suit when posting this.
TaurusBullba said:
No,first step is to unlock it. You had that right. Use pof's v3a unlocker for that.
Second, HardSPL
Third, flash whatever ROM suits your mood for the day.
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So is the HardSPL just a modified bootloader? Just from reading it this is what I am assuming.
JR_de said:
Before you flash anything I'd recommend to flash Hard-SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Here are some excellent instructions:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
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Essentially, yes, it is a modifiied bootloader. There are several versions (I have 3 myself that I keep on DVD). Like was said earlier, use the MR VANX guide.
I had the 8525 and switched to both the Softbank x01HT version and the Nokia N95.
Any benefit of having the Softbank over the 8525 aside from the camera on the front?
crazyut said:
Essentially, yes, it is a modifiied bootloader. There are several versions (I have 3 myself that I keep on DVD). Like was said earlier, use the MR VANX guide.
I had the 8525 and switched to both the Softbank x01HT version and the Nokia N95.
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Softbank is very very very durable (the 8525 I used to have was broken after 1 drop from hip level); this phone has dropped 4 times on pavement and other than a few scratches, works and looks great.
Vasichko said:
Any benefit of having the Softbank over the 8525 aside from the camera on the front?
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Total New-B Question: Fuze Stock SPL

First, thank you to everyone here that is contributing and providing help to us New-B's
I have a the Fuze and I installed HardSPL to use NATF's v2.2 ROM (which is great btw). Unfortunately, I have to do a warranty exchange on it already. My question is, is the Stock SPL located in the first post of the HardSPL thread the same as the Fuze Stock SPL? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150)
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me figure this out.
Yes, the stock SPL is in that post. You'll also want to flash the stock ROM.
This is the link that have the stock ROMs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
If you just purchased it, more than likely you had this ROM on the phone when shipping:
http://rapidshare.com/files/157242627/RUU_Raphael_Cingular_US_.exe
jmrubel77 said:
First, thank you to everyone here that is contributing and providing help to us New-B's
I have a the Fuze and I installed HardSPL to use NATF's v2.2 ROM (which is great btw). Unfortunately, I have to do a warranty exchange on it already. My question is, is the Stock SPL located in the first post of the HardSPL thread the same as the Fuze Stock SPL? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150)
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me figure this out.
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Thanks for making this post, I had the same exact question.
tdfreeman said:
Yes, the stock SPL is in that post. You'll also want to flash the stock ROM.
This is the link that have the stock ROMs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
If you just purchased it, more than likely you had this ROM on the phone when shipping:
http://rapidshare.com/files/157242627/RUU_Raphael_Cingular_US_.exe
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And thanks for answering it!!!
just for insight, when I returned my Fuze, I only flashed the original ROM back on and left HardSPL. Corp. Store didn't even check bootloader and for all I know they have no idea about any of this stuff... if I were going the warranty route, I would def. go back to 100% stock.
Better to be safe than sorry, though.
to be accurate with things, that post won't have the exact stock spl for the fuze, cause the newer fuze should have the 1.95 stock spl. you can use the jump spl and load the 1.95 spl in. Many AT&T sales people will not know about what spl is on there, so could be possibly safe, but then again, there are some AT&T sales people on this forum.
Here is a reference of the difference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2944530
jmrubel77 said:
Unfortunately, I have to do a warranty exchange on it already.
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What is or was the reason for the xchg.? Just asking because my call quality sucks and I'm thinking about swapping myself. How was the whole process and how long did you had the phone?
I swear this post should have gone somewhere else like in the hardspl thread :-D or flashing for newbs thread oh well, good luck with flashing stock and getting it all back to AT&T just remember flashing your SPL is the LAST step.
tyguy said:
What is or was the reason for the xchg.? Just asking because my call quality sucks and I'm thinking about swapping myself. How was the whole process and how long did you had the phone?
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The same thing... Crappy call quality and inconsistent 3G/HSDPA connection

[UPG]Topaz/AT&T Pure/Diamond 2 CID/Security/SIM Unlocker

Alright folks, Touch Diamond 2 SIM Unlocker (also for AT&T Pure) sorted:
1) contributing forum members & Elite Team donators... Request a free unlock with your IMEI & email. - if you have an account that has a) existed for a good few months and b) you actually contribute to the site (technical wizardy, or general helpfulness - CONSISTENT AND REGULAR POSTING), then just drop me a message and it's yours, if you don't meet both a) and b) then don't bother - having an account that you rarely posted from is NOT in the least bit interesting.
2) everyone else (new accounts/unregistered/sod all posts, this means you): [size=+2]Get SIM unlocked Here[/size]
for those who don't know:
Security Unlock lets you flash radios from other devices... technically speaking you can flash any radio, the Diamond, Raphael, Blackstone and Kovsky radios are NOT compatible, they will kill your device and cause biblical plagues - Rhodium will work fine though.
CID unlock is largely redundant, however, it's quite useful if you like to keep your device on a stock SPL as it means you can flash any official ROM regardless of which brand it's intended for without changing SPL.
Olipro said:
it's quite useful if you like to keep your device on a stock SPL as it means you can flash any official ROM regardless of which brand it's intended for without changing SPL.
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Hi,
Does this mean that if I unlocked using the CID unlocker tool, I would be able to flash from a T-Mobile ROM to the stock HTC one?
I am having problems validating hardspl due to internet connection problems so this may be an alternate solution.
Sorry if this is a silly question.
maxcherry said:
Hi,
Does this mean that if I unlocked using the CID unlocker tool, I would be able to flash from a T-Mobile ROM to the stock HTC one?
I am having problems validating hardspl due to internet connection problems so this may be an alternate solution.
Sorry if this is a silly question.
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Please be advised that the Unlocker also uses a validator.
Regards,
EqX
Curses.
Thanks for the info
the unlocker comes with Hard-SPL bundled into it, but it'll only Hard-SPL a device that's paid for.
Topaz/Diamond 2 CID/Security/SIM Unlocker
that's great news
maxcherry said:
Curses.
Thanks for the info
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don't worry, just PM me & I'll help with the HardSPL.
Hi
Thank U. I bought it, and I will try it today. After this program can I change the radio rom for free, The SIM unlock is still?
Breki said:
Hi
Thank U. I bought it, and I will try it today. After this program can I change the radio rom for free, The SIM unlock is still?
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Correct, the unlock will remain. The Radio this program flashes is a temporary one for unlocking purposes only, so you change radio at the end of it .
Dave
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Wrong post multitab problem
Question Mr Oli or cmonex:
If Rhodium device is similar, why HARDSPL and other stuff cant be totally applied to Rhodium device?? I mean, some memory issue or smth??
If is a stupid question, just dont answer... Is just I dont know
tramuyo said:
Question Mr Oli or cmonex:
If Rhodium device is similar, why HARDSPL and other stuff cant be totally applied to Rhodium device?? I mean, some memory issue or smth??
If is a stupid question, just dont answer... Is just I dont know
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They're different. This is low level stuff we're hacking here... . Using the wrong SPL with either: 1. not work, or 2. brick the device (go find the guy who put a TP 1 CDMA SPL on his GSM TP2).
Dave
Oh.. Ok. Right answer!
btw. Flashing CDMA SPL in GSM thing surely will brick, what a stupid action!
If i unlock MDA Compact V with *unlock service - its once and FOREVER or maybe its gone after HARDspl, flashing ?
nikor4 said:
If i unlock MDA Compact V with *unlock service - its once and FOREVER or maybe its gone after HARDspl, flashing ?
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It's forever, changing the SPL, ROM or radio will not remove it.
Dave
Never mind -- found my answer.....
DaveShaw said:
It's forever, changing the SPL, ROM or radio will not remove it.
Dave
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with the exception of Security lock, that can be reversed, but the SIM lock has no effect on warranty
Olipro said:
with the exception of Security lock, that can be reversed, but the SIM lock has no effect on warranty
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just to be 100% precise, we all know that of course sim lock can be put back too, but it is really pointless
What i need for use your soft to unlock
medianet18 said:
What i need for use your soft to unlock
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a PC running XP or Vista, a device and a cable to connect it.

No Hardspl for SPL 3.03??

I haven't been able to find that anywhere???
Hardspl and Hardspl2 only works for SPL version 2.xxx??
not yet, not sure if anyone is working on it.
You either have to use the goldcard method or you have to flash as prev. stock ROM via sd card to revert hspl, then unlock.
nrfitchett4 said:
not yet, not sure if anyone is working on it.
You either have to use the goldcard method or you have to flash as prev. stock ROM via sd card to revert hspl, then unlock.
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I am used to Hardspl from other Windows Phones so I will wait...
I have HD2 with 3.03 SPL.....
Any update on HardSpl please.......
pranavd1980 said:
I have HD2 with 3.03 SPL.....
Any update on HardSpl please.......
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As there is quite a simple and easy-to-do workaround, maybe there won´t be a new HSPL for the time being.
The makers of HSPL are quite busy porting other stuff to our great device. I am really glad and thankful for what they do, their massive efforts made Android and WP7, even with NAND, possible for us.
But who knows, time will show...
tictac0566 said:
As there is quite a simple and easy-to-do workaround, maybe there won´t be a new HSPL for the time being.
The makers of HSPL are quite busy porting other stuff to our great device. I am really glad and thankful for what they do, their massive efforts made Android and WP7, even with NAND, possible for us.
But who knows, time will show...
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Hey i just came back to HD2 again and found new SPL 3.03XE...
Can you just show me the path for flashing NRG's ROM available here.....
i am not noob for flashing ROM's but, Just would like know the right path....i haven't find hardspl for 3.03 that's why asking....
Please help
pranavd1980 said:
Hey i just came back to HD2 again and found new SPL 3.03XE...
Can you just show me the path for flashing NRG's ROM available here.....
i am not noob for flashing ROM's but, Just would like know the right path....i haven't find hardspl for 3.03 that's why asking....
Please help
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You can use SSPL_RUU.exe

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