The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
gcincotta said:
install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
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On Opera? I can play YouTube videos when I run PIE, but it's still so slow and choppy. Not the videos themselves, but any site I go to on PIE.
which opera you use? Because I use opera mini but cannot play you tune video.
I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
mike-y said:
I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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How can I make my ppc show me youtube's videos??
U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
killerkhatiby009 said:
U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
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I need a player which play all my files, not only what it can find on the net...
skyfire is a new player that is said will play youtube as if you're working on a computer, but its still on beta version and its still not out yet but skyfire is sending some to testers... so its ur chance to try to get one
We are all stuck waiting for Skyfire for full browsing on a cell.
Vtap is Broken
I keep getting a Green Screen anytime I try to watch a video? Anyone have any idea whats going on??? Thanks.
sovrce said:
The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
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When will you people learn...
You can't test your speed on Opera Mini! I promise you, you are NOT getting 2.2Mpbs+ speeds on your phone consistently.
Opera Mini is not a real web browser. The way it works is when you click on a web page, Opera downloads the page to its servers first. Then, it takes a look at the page, and takes a picture of it, taking note of where all the links appear. It then sends this "image" + link information to your phone which displays in the opera mini browser. This method is so much faster than a regular browser because your phone doesn't have to download all the information and doesn't have to do any of the processing to render the page. (This also, by the way, introduces all sorts of security questions because this is being rendered on someone else's computer before it comes to you. In other words, don't use opera mini to do your banking)
when you do a speed test, you're not seeing the speed of your phone's connection. You're seeing the speed in which Opera's server is connected to the internet, and then seeing that result as a picture sent to your phone!
In fact, the opera mini experience is the same on a high-end PDA phone as it is on a simple little nokia from 5 years ago (speed of the phone is irrelevant, its just viewing images).
Case and point- browsing on an GSM nokia 6230 using EDGE (non-3G) is not noticeably slower than browsing on a Mogul with EVDO Rev A, and both reported over 2MBps in speed tests (EDGE averages around 100kbps).
Basically, this system is ideal for web browsing like the desktop. However, it can't do any pages that require client-side processing, since your phone is not doing any of the processing. For example, pages with real-time interaction, javascript games, and especially flash animation and/or video (such as youtube) would not work under this model.
There ARE browsers that are capable of this, such as NetFront and the upcoming SkyFire, but you will most likely end up with the same laggy experience as IE because you are back to using the phone's CPU to process and render the data.
Bottom Line: What you are asking for is not out there because the concepts are worlds apart (opera mini + flash video). Using TCPMP and the flash video bundle work flawlessy for me, might want to check out the latest versions of that.
Generally, I've found that there is not perfect browser for everything (yet). I use Opera mini for regular browsing of large pages, Picsel for secure pages (such as sprint.com account information), IE for mobile-access pages (such as the mobile accuweather) and for flash video using the bundle. I used to use NetFront for pages with flash and java interaction, but I actually found it too slow and clunky for regular use. The tcpmp video bundle works much better, so I removed NetFront.
Good luck, I hope this helped someone understand the situation better!
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Look... IE is the only thing you can find atm that is close to being full featured. The problem is on some of these roms it just plain does not have the memory to operate. NexVisions is one of them. Open just about any page and is 1mg of ram left. Other then IE you are forced to mix it up with other browsers until Skiyfire comes out.
So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
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I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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how are you getting this to work? i have tcpmp and the FlashVideoBundle.cab but youtube videos try to open in WMP, which gives an "unknown error" error
if i force it to open in tcpmp it says the rtsp protocal is not supported
using opera mobile reporting as a desktop browser youtube doesnt even open, it just crashes the browser, i cant get PIE to report itself as anything other than PIE (so it always goes to youtube mobile)
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So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
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I have it. It shows a lot of promise but it's still early (version # is .5). Video is pretty choppy even over WiFi. It's one of the things they're trying to polish before release.
Make sure you are using TCPMP version 0.72RC1, and make sure you don't have any other flash plugins installed except the flashvideobundle.
I have both installed to my device memory (not memory card).
that's it really. I can go to youtube.com in PIE, tap on a video, and a little menu pops up asking if you want to play or save the video. just tap "play" and the video starts playing within a couple of seconds, and its very smooth.
Youtube videos on the Hero open in the HTC flash player, which would be fine if it weren't for the crappy quality, choppy video and distorted colours. On my G1 I was able to open youtube videos in the Youtube application, which is of a considerably higher quality. Is there a way to do this on the Hero
Sorry if this question has been asked, I did a search both on the Forum and on Google but I was unable to come across an answer.
Thanks
I have the very same question. I've been searching the forum and the web without success so far. Anyone?
It is built into the Modaco ROMs. I'd suggest either installing one, or downloading one and seeing if you extract and install the APK.
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Dave
Which APK? The official ROM already has the youtube app, I just want it to be launched when I click on a youtube video within the browser...
Any other way without changing ROMs?
I'm still looking for a way to do it without switching ROMs, too. If anyone has any ideas please let us know
I would (also) like to know how/if it can be done.
Currently, when I need to play a link in the YouTube app, I copy/paste and load the page in the Steel browser. Steel will let me choose to either use the HTC Flash Player or the YouTube app.
I would have liked the HTC people to at least leave the option with the users...
I would (also) like to know how/if it can be done.
Currently, when I need to play a link in the YouTube app, I copy/paste and load the page in the Steel browser. Steel will let me choose to either use the HTC Flash Player or the YouTube app.
I would have liked the HTC people to at least leave the option with the users...
As Vimeo wil not work with any version of WinMob, I'd like to request an application that makes it possible to view Vimeo clips.
It is not possible to view Vimeo movies under WinMob because Vimeo requires Flash 9. all you can do is install Skyfire but I think its not as elegant as a nice app like the Youtube app.
Vimeo does not respond to my mail so I thought I might bring this up on this forum.
for ppl who don't know: this is what Vimeo is about.
http://vimeo.com/help/basics
In a nutshell, Vimeo has great video quality, and is more supportive to creative ppl than Youtube.
Im not even sure it is possible but I hope so, as it would be the last thing I would want in my feature list
Anyone knows if its even possible. im not a developer
I think skyfire is gonna be it buddy .
That would suck as it aint working flawless and the quality is plain bad.
Ah well, atleast it has been brought under attention
I can't seem to get it on Skyfire now either, it gives me an error 404. And I read that Hulu is blocking skyfire browsers too...
How do u get the plug in necessary to view certain pages with the chrome browser..also i cannot view videos on certain sites in addition any "featured " links in google when clicked shows errors.. sorry im a chrome noob any help is appreciated..
Edit: websites show puzzle piece and says no plug in available to display this content
Because it is in a beta version, it lacks certain features and functionality. As of right now, there is no flash support. Later, they will most likely add this feature, but if you need flash now, you will need to use a different browser. My personal favorite at the moment is Boat Browser which is free on the market.
I have no issue going to youtube and playing videos via chrome.
I have also played my own websites flash slideshow via chrome without issue.
flyingwolf said:
I have no issue going to youtube and playing videos via chrome.
I have also played my own websites flash slideshow via chrome without issue.
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this + i have played a couple flash games on chrome on my prime. of course it was slow and not meant for touch input, but it DID work
Flash does not work for me and I believe it is not supported by Chrome. Surprised anyone has gotten it to work.
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone is having this problem. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII 4G, love this phone. However I have some issues when it comes to flash and streaming video stuff. I can seem to watch youtube videos just fine but trying to go to other sites that have flash or streaming videos, it just doesn't play at all. Also some sites with flash will only show up with a green arrow in the area where there's supposed to be a video. I have downloaded Adobe flash and Flash AIR. Have tried multiple browsers with all having the same problems. Is there a fix to this? Please help.
P.S. I know this isn't the right forum for this but I am also having this problem on my Viewsonic G-Tablet.
Thanks,
Afrowookie
Are you using the stock browser?
Try boat browser. Flash works great with it! You can also try updating flash in the market.
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I have the most updated adobe flash. I have used the stock browser, firefox, dolphin and now opera. Opera seems to work the best for me, but like I said youtube videos work, but on other sites the videos don't even load, and the only way to watch some of them is by downloading them first and then viewing afterwards. I will try boat though, thanks for the reply.
afrowookie said:
I have the most updated adobe flash. I have used the stock browser, firefox, dolphin and now opera. Opera seems to work the best for me, but like I said youtube videos work, but on other sites the videos don't even load, and the only way to watch some of them is by downloading them first and then viewing afterwards. I will try boat though, thanks for the reply.
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Like I said, try boat browser. Under the Settings > Set User Agent - To desktop. Should work with almost all videos.
ive installed ROBOFORM browser for it... it works perfect ...