hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
lidan25 said:
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
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You need to download AP 4.0 rom and run it as exactly told in the instructions, Follow them to the letter or you may mess up. Once thats loaded you can either run that rom or try the new AP 5.0 beta. once you have AP 4.0 on your athena you will have SPL 3.5 on as well. However you cant go back to using shipped rom's without using a SPL 3.5 type rom or swapping your SPL back, and I dont know how that is done.
Just read up first before doing anything!!!!
All the best
Jay
thanks
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
lidan25 said:
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
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No worries, But I cant stress the read the instructions first bit enough. No end of people have had problems by jumping the gun, including me!! I didnt take out my SD card and by the time I had realised what had happened it was to late. You can normaly get the rom onto your athena if you mess up, but you usualy end up without WiFi. so then that has to be sorted. Pawel and Irus have made some very good roms on SPL 3.5 and irus has added an HTC shipped rom if you want to go back to basics.
Jay
AP 4.0 rom
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
can you post the the link of Irus Rom and what do i need to do so i will have SPL 3.5 on my Athena and will not kill my Athena !!
lidan25 said:
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
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I'm not sure if you need WM 6.0 first, but if your ok with flashing roms then do WM 6.0 first!
Ive put the link you need on my post above.
And its a matter of personal choice if you want the roms or not. read the contents of them and make a choice. Pawels roms 4.0 and 5.0 are from the x7510 so about as good as you get. Irus roms are WM 6.1 so also very up to date. You do get a few minor bugs in cooked roms though.
Jay
i am with WM 6.0
i have no need to upged to it !!
but i was on to update to WM 6.1
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
Flash AP4 - just follow the instructions and it will all work.
AP5 is still beta (but a very good one)
Or you could just flash one of irus' ROMS but I'd recommend AP4
whats the probleme with wifi in AP 4.0? i hare it isnt working
is thare a fix for it ??
lidan25 said:
i am with WM 6.0
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
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You misunderstood, if flashing AP 4.0 goes WRONG then you end up with WiFi not working till its fixed! If you do everything right then everything runs well!
You will get a bug or two on any cooked rom, even shipped roms have them. but read the thread and you can see most have a cure!
Jay
As responderman said - it only doesn't work if you don't follow the instructions. Follow them and it works.
If you can't follow instructions don't flash your phone.
Igo 8 will work i did see a post in hare that thay say it may not work have you test'd it do you know any thing on that problem ?
man i think i am in to asking it that i am new with this 1 i had flsh't all my ppc but this 1 i didn't yet so i am like on a bit confused what to do and if i do it what Rom is best i know that i had Kaiser i liket the WM6.1 on it and for me to go beck to WM 6.0 is a big problem thats why i am in to asking all of that thing's !!
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
eaglesteve said:
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
read this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
lidan25 said:
whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
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Mate read this page! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
This guy had the same problem as you because he did not read the instructions
He solved it by reading the wiki and the links referenced.
We have told you what you are doing wrong as it is a common mistake.
Stop whinging and start reading!
My 2 Cents
Have a look at all the info on the several flavors of rom available for the Athena based decvices, choose the rom you feel fits your needs, take your time and follow the instructions (what ever rom you choose have a look at the ap4 wiki because it covers some issues that are WM6.1 related and are not AP4 unique) as with all cooked roms there may be some issues but if you follow instructions you should be fine (as already stated if you go with AP4 and upgrade to the new SPL 3.5 you can't go back for now, the AP team is working on a path back to the factory roms).
Cheers
BR
Related
I would like to upgrade my X7500. Now I have WM6 ITA, my SPL is 1.2 and Radio 1.50.00. Since I'm tired to wait for an official 6.1 ROM upgrade I would like to do it with the ROM coocked in the forum...but which one to choose?
I took a look at this thread: Windows Mobile 6.1 for spl 1.2 and 3.5 in three different sizes 5-14-08 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328), and this one: Athena Project 4.0 Series RELEASED (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379773).
Since I'm looking for 6.1 ROM, or the most up to date one which is the one? Which is the better one?
Thanx in advance for your suggestions!
The less painful option would be to try Irus rom but I think there are problems with different language keyboards.
Sergiopi is happy with this and he is italian.
Why dont you message him directly if he is around.
I am on AP4 and I am happy as it does everything I need and is stable
I instaled Irus rom and had trouble getting some things to work but didnt have time to sort it out.I will probably try it again later
michael
Guys, i've been searching not for the best, cause i know the best rom depends on the User..but i just want you guys to suggest me a rom that you think is the most stable one..either clean or full edition, i just want it to be stable..no WIFI ,BT,Infrared, GPRS Issues...just in your opinion..just want your suggestions guys..Got Tired of downloading roms that are buggy..tnx guys..i will really appreciate watever you suggest here..tnx...
Full edition:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389982
You can also see this summary:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377545
Best luck,
Rui
emjaygee said:
Guys, i've been searching not for the best, cause i know the best rom depends on the User..but i just want you guys to suggest me a rom that you think is the most stable one..either clean or full edition, i just want it to be stable..no WIFI ,BT,Infrared, GPRS Issues...just in your opinion..just want your suggestions guys..Got Tired of downloading roms that are buggy..tnx guys..i will really appreciate watever you suggest here..tnx...
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Most stable... I think Cloudyfas latest ROM. It's build 19213, and is very stable.
l3v5y said:
Most stable... I think Cloudyfas latest ROM. It's build 19213, and is very stable.
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oh yeah!
And Cloudyfas ROM supports WPA2
l3v5y said:
Most stable... I think Cloudyfas latest ROM. It's build 19213, and is very stable.
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i agree with l3v5y
i am using Cloudyfas latest ROM build 19213 and very much stable and satisfied with it.
sir, ive already tested that rom..it works for me for about two weeks..but ive noticed the bugs..the communications manager for activating the incoming beams are not working so you should activate it via settings menu..one more thing is, i can send file via bluetooth and infrared, but i wasnt able receive..
ive tested cloudyfa's 19701 rom, its working but the same problem..cnt receive from infrared but can receive now using blutooth..
emjaygee said:
ive tested cloudyfa's 19701 rom, its working but the same problem..cnt receive from infrared but can receive now using blutooth..
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Hi you need to correct this entry's in order to have the IRDA working:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
"TransceiverType"=dword:0
"IntIR"=dword:1
"Port"=dword:4
"CheckForHangTimeInSeconds"=dword:e10
"BusType"=dword:0
"BusNumber"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir]
"ImagePath"="irsir.dll"
"Group"="NDIS"
"DisplayName"="Serial (COM) IrDA Driver"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir\Linkage]
"Route"=multi_sz:"Irsir1"
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390210&highlight=irda
But you need always to check the comm manager and the beam status in the settings tools.
The S4V.19701.01 is for me the most stable and working room for now. The 19213 have some behaviours that the 19701 don´t have, so the 19701 is more stable.
Regards
hi all. coming from a blue angel user. now i've got a qtek s200 with wm6 pdaviet version... looks good, but would like to upgrade to wm6.1. i have now 2.47 radio rom...
my questions now are:
1° i have to upgrade to latest 2.69 radio rom? what'w new in it?
2° what is the newest wm 6.1 rom here? i've seen the coudyfla S4V.19701.01
posted on 6 may, and then another 19213 posted on 26 may... so this one should be latest, but how works number here? ... what is the latest wm 6.1 stable rom? tnx for any suggestion
ScruffyITA said:
hi all. coming from a blue angel user. now i've got a qtek s200 with wm6 pdaviet version... looks good, but would like to upgrade to wm6.1. i have now 2.47 radio rom...
my questions now are:
1° i have to upgrade to latest 2.69 radio rom? what'w new in it?
2° what is the newest wm 6.1 rom here? i've seen the coudyfla S4V.19701.01
posted on 6 may, and then another 19213 posted on 26 may... so this one should be latest, but how works number here? ... what is the latest wm 6.1 stable rom? tnx for any suggestion
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IMHO, the radio ROMs are pretty much identical.. If anything, 2.19 is the most stable...
With ROM builds, the 19701 build was a beta, whereas 19213 was an official ROM, the 19213 is more stable and better...
Also, remember to HardSPL your device
hey tnx for reply, but cant find a good tutorial for flashing...
i would know wich spl i need at least.... what os ( i have vista 64bit so need modded driver?)
then one say 19701 is more stable.... onw say 213.... i had the blue angel ... and tried most roms... and when someone say stable it was stable
tnx again for help.
ps downloaded the 19701 full version of coudyfla, extracted and seen files... can i upgrade directly by executing exe and follow the screen procedure, or need to know wich spl and so on i need before?
cant find anything about spl version needed and so son.....
PS: for hardspl u mean hard reset... clean registry and so on.. or spl bootloder?
tnx again m8 for hemping me
ScruffyITA said:
hey tnx for reply, but cant find a good tutorial for flashing...
i would know wich spl i need at least.... what os ( i have vista 64bit so need modded driver?)
then one say 19701 is more stable.... onw say 213.... i had the blue angel ... and tried most roms... and when someone say stable it was stable
tnx again for help.
ps downloaded the 19701 full version of coudyfla, extracted and seen files... can i upgrade directly by executing exe and follow the screen procedure, or need to know wich spl and so on i need before?
cant find anything about spl version needed and so son.....
PS: for hardspl u mean hard reset... clean registry and so on.. or spl bootloder?
tnx again m8 for hemping me
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In the "Prophet Mobile 6" forum, there is a sticky called "NEW WM6 Upgrade Guide". Follow that for HardSPL etc... I don't think there are 64 bit RUUs (although I may be wrong) and unless you have a G3, Vista probably won't work anyway...
x0101222 said:
Full edition:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389982
You can also see this summary:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377545
Best luck,
Rui
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For pure speed and a ultra clean rom. Try Micro V3. It is by far the most stable rom i have ever used. although i have yet to try cloudyfas' 19213 or 19701
cheguevara said:
For pure speed and a ultra clean rom. Try Micro V3. It is by far the most stable rom i have ever used. although i have yet to try cloudyfas' 19213 or 19701
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Micro V3 also has the largest storage of any ROM I've seen!
l3v5y said:
Micro V3 also has the largest storage of any ROM I've seen!
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yes, right~~
please be noted for V3:
1. without word suggestion feature while input (default keyboard)
2. default camera removed but coolcamera works very fine~
3. without Asian regional selection,
4. don't forget to disable the windows and popup animation for maximum speed,
5. very clean rom, you have to add all extra cabs you want,
...... enjoy anyway ~~ ^^
dioxda2 said:
yes, right~~
please be noted for V3:
1. without word suggestion feature while input (default keyboard)
2. default camera removed but coolcamera works very fine~
3. without Asian regional selection,
4. don't forget to disable the windows and popup animation for maximum speed,
5. very clean rom, you havr to add all extra cabs you want,
...... enjoy anyway ~~ ^^
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Yes, V3 is very fast and stable.
The only reason I can't use it is that it has no Internet Sharing.
Tried a few cabs with no success
Otherwise, it is a great ROM.
Anox.
wishing for a flawless ROm..hehe..even the originally shipped ones are buggy, but i hope there will be a super stable one..hehe
emjaygee said:
wishing for a flawless ROm..hehe..even the originally shipped ones are buggy, but i hope there will be a super stable one..hehe
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Cloudyfas latest ROM is probably as close as you will get!
the reason why i dont like the 19213 rom of cloudyfa is because of its bug regarding the non stop vibration...also, i encuntered that it cant reciv any files from bluetooth and infrared though i can send through it..i think 19701 is more stable..im using the clean version...i can reciv files from bluetooth but not in the infrared though, i can stil send through it..
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the reason why i dont like the 19213 rom of cloudyfa is because of its bug regarding the non stop vibration...also, i encuntered that it cant reciv any files from bluetooth and infrared though i can send through it..i think 19701 is more stable..im using the clean version...i can reciv files from bluetooth but not in the infrared though, i can stil send through it..
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I think the IR issue is because the ROM is ported from a device without IR...
OK now before U start cursing me, please hear me out first.
I have a HTC TyTN in German, and I can make squad out of it cause I don't understand this language. (it was a gift btw)
Now I have gone trough the manuals and trough wiki but for a total beginner like my self a lot of this stuff is confusing. So here is my plead:
Can anyone put in a small manual how to convert this German speaking HTC TyTN in to nice and understandable English one
Now when I do the OK+POWER+Reset stuff this is what shows up on the screen:
HERM200
IPL 1.00
SPL 1.06
The Phone Info on the other side shows this mambo jumbo:
ROM-version: 1.18.257.2
ROM-datum: 07/22/06
Funkempfangerversion: 1.03.03.10 (told U is in German)
Protokoll-version: 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM-version: 1.18.257.8003
Now keep in mind this is the only place that I have found that has this kind of info so go easy on me.
Thank U kindly for any given help!
re
You have to flash a new ROM. Maybe you find the original english one?
xep624 said:
You have to flash a new ROM. Maybe you find the original english one?
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Well that much i know, but the exact procedure is a tough one.
That is why I was hoping that some more experienced user will help me out.
10x anyways.
D_NazGUL said:
Well that much i know, but the exact procedure is a tough one.
That is why I was hoping that some more experienced user will help me out.
10x anyways.
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Have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
First of all you will want to Sim/CID unlock your phone.
That is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Then flash HardSPL, to help make sure you dont brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Now, you can flash yourself a custom rom, or a shipped rom.
List of shiped roms:
WM6: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
A nice list of active cooked roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403963
Out of the cooked roms I like CRC's the best, I would go for 11.2 if you need 100% stability, or 12.8 normal if you don't mind a faster but "beta" rom, not that I have ever found his roms to be buggy.
PDACornerPro.V19's is also popular (Would recommend going for "RBSN" if you chose his)
And MRH's are more "loaded" roms cooked off CRC's.
veyka said:
Have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
First of all you will want to Sim/CID unlock your phone.
That is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Then flash HardSPL, to help make sure you dont brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Now, you can flash yourself a custom rom, or a shipped rom.
List of shiped roms:
WM6: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
A nice list of active cooked roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403963
Out of the cooked roms I like CRC's the best, I would go for 11.2 if you need 100% stability, or 12.8 normal if you don't mind a faster but "beta" rom, not that I have ever found his roms to be buggy.
PDACornerPro.V19's is also popular (Would recommend going for "RBSN" if you chose his)
And MRH's are more "loaded" roms cooked off CRC's.
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Well this is exactly what I was looking for.
Just one more thing: Tell me what would be the most appropriate ROM, cause I just wanna change to English language, I'm not looking for anything extra!
10x mate!
veyka said:
Have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
First of all you will want to Sim/CID unlock your phone.
That is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Then flash HardSPL, to help make sure you dont brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Now, you can flash yourself a custom rom, or a shipped rom.
List of shiped roms:
WM6: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Available Original Shipped WM6 ROM Versions
A nice list of active cooked roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403963
Out of the cooked roms I like CRC's the best, I would go for 11.2 if you need 100% stability, or 12.8 normal if you don't mind a faster but "beta" rom, not that I have ever found his roms to be buggy.
PDACornerPro.V19's is also popular (Would recommend going for "RBSN" if you chose his)
And MRH's are more "loaded" roms cooked off CRC's.
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I just wanna say THANK YOU MATE!
I did it. Used CRC 11.2 and is on English an working just fine.
THANK U AGAIN!
D_NazGUL said:
I just wanna say THANK YOU MATE!
I did it. Used CRC 11.2 and is on English an working just fine.
THANK U AGAIN!
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Happy to help! Glad it worked for you! The first time is always the hardest!
I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used X7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue?
Also, would someone mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest/best one to use. I realize that such questions have been asked before, but it's still a big job trying to sift through all the possibilities. Perhaps a sticky including an on-going tally chart with download frequencies or something, together with tags that users could add about what issues their hoping to overcome with the ROM download?? Just a suggestion...
Peter (Bamse1)
Hard to say....
LATEST usually is better, generally speaking we have to choose FIRST the SPL
Unlocked AThena means SPL 1.2. The newest ATHENA (X7510) needs more ROM space so AP4 Team developed the AP4 ROM TOGETHER with a tool to increase the ROM space, and the SPL becames SPL 3.5.
WARNING: you can flash ONLY SPL compatible ROMs, this means NO ORIGINAL ROM is SPL 3.5 . You have to revert it back to 1.2 to flash any official rom
We have a sticky thread here with the ROM links, ALL WM6 or 6.1
Latest Micky's (5.1, 6.1) are the best (IMHO) 6.1 latest is WM6.1, stable build with manila 2d and newest Internet Explorer , little less stable than 5.1, rock solid. I use SPL 3.5, I like to have ALL the utility needed into the ROM.
You can choose sogarth base AND sogarth kitchen to do-it-yourself or IRUS lite-vanilla ROM (the AP4 vanilla)
I will suggest this roadmap:
Start with IRUS spl 1.2, then
Flash AP4, latest AP team release an you will have the SPL 3.5 too
Then check sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release
Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d and the increased responsiveness
Wait for the next michy's release if you want really lite and newest build
Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Thank you for replying so quickly Sergiopi. Still, the lingo is a bit overwhelming for a newbie like me. For instance, one issue is confusing: You write that SPL 3.5 is intended for the X7510 but later on your roadmap you suggest AP4 (including SPL3.5) for the X7500. To confirm, this will not harm the X7500, correct?
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SPL 3.5 is needed on X7500 to have the newest features in the ROM
bamse1 said:
If I understand half of what you say then I may 'liberate' the UNLOCKED X7500 with an OEM WM6.0 (from HTC) by
1. Flashing IRUS SPL 1.2 (No turning back now right?)
2. Then flashing AP4 (Question: is AP4 WM6.0 or 6.1?)
3. Here it gets confusing for me. If I understand correctly then "sogarth, or Irus Vanilla-Lite release Michy 5.1 or 6.1 to check the manila 2d" are all different update versions stemming from AP4?? For instance is Michy 6.1 a 'cooked' version of WM6.1, along with the rest of them?
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If you have a "STOCK", SIM unlocked X7500, to flash a non official ROM you need to flash the SPL 1.2 FIRST ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846 )
THEN you need to upgrade the radio 1.57 or 1.58, I am using 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372904
THEN you can flash the newest OS, (ALL cooked ROM are OS only, no RADIO, even if I am not sure about radio in the sogarth one, and the newest RADIO is needed by WM 6.1)
1) SPL 1.2 comes from Athena Wrapper, you can revert back but isn't easy for a newbie..
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1
3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (may be they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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I don't need everything tweaked to the max, just a stable and reliable system that has all the functionality the X7500 is capable of together with the basic apps... a modest aim don't you agree?
The cream on top would be to replace the stylus with TouchFLO 3D - is this possible with one of the cooked roms you mention? However, this is not really necessary - kind of gimmicky from one point of view I suppose. In fact, did I read somewhere that FLO actually slows things down?
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Touchflo 3d isn't available for athena, Manila 2d looks like (and works like) T3D, reducing available RAM and slowing down the system
Start testing, from your requirements I think you will like Michy's 6.1 (play with T3D clone and disable it after a while ) and the announced Michy's vanilla. AP team announced some news, but it was one month ago and they are still testing...
Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
2) AP4 shoulh be WM6.1 OS check the thread Michy's are WM6.1 ... 3) NO, IRUS vanilla comes from AP4, sogarth ? (maybe they used some common base ROM) michy's aren't from AP4
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Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
I also wish to add a private message quote from Brau0303 on the topic that helps nuance the discussion:
We were all noobes at some point so no worries. As to the best rom (my friend that is purely subjective, I was fond of the AP Teams rom and the work done by MichyPrima, you will find two main flavors of rom for the Athena, roms intended for the normal 1.2x SPL and those intended for the 3.xx SPL the custom SPL/unlocker is required for any non factory rom flashing and the main difference between 1.2x & 3.xx SPL is 1.2x retains the factory rom flash partition, 3.xx re-partitions the rom flash area to allow for larger roms like AP-4 and above. you must be careful and please read all the documentation prior to flashing or you could damage your Athena.
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This leads me to a new question: Is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Well this certainly helps dry up the mist! The point about the radio seems like an important addition. I'm still not clear about one point however:
Again, my primary aim is to get the cleanest and most fully-functional version of WM6.1 with the least amount of steps or tweaking. Assuming that A4 is 6.1 (haven't checked yet) then why is it necessary (or preferable) to flash sogarth, or the Irus Vanilla-Lite release (of A4) AND, then, add Michy 6.1 (to check the manila 2d?) which is also 6.1? It sounds like Michy's 6.1 is the way to go (with or without the T3D clone) but I don't understand why you suggest to flash sogarth/IRUS Vanilla first? Is it to get 2D? But elsewhere you suggest that Micky 6.1 includes 2D? Finally, you also suggest adding the announced Michy's vanilla... Can I do this and bypass sogarth/Irus Vanilla-Lite? I guess I'm still not clear about the difference between A4 (sogarth/irus vanilla) and Michy's work, and how or why these apparently need/should coexist on the STOCK Athena/Advantage X7500 (ie. NOT Ameo/simlocked)?
There is another question about adding apps once the cooked ROM 6.1 has been installed. Somewhere I read that these ROMs don't allow new apps, so you need to get it right the first time or redo the entire process. Is this correct? I suppose the cooks have taken this into account with their ROMs, which is perhaps one reason behind their multiplicity?!
I appreciate your patience! This is all new stuff and I'm still trying to get my head around it.
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VANILLA-LITE SPL 1.2 means the cleanest, and no needs for SPL 3.5, BUT is an OLD WM6.1 Build. It means NO newest Internet Explorer, NO enhanced contact/messaging, NO rotation sensor enabled and some other bugs
SPL 3.5 means more complete ROM (more space, more built-in utilities) and a LATEST OS Build is commonly better
ALL ROMs allow the installation of new applications (may be you mean UPDATED version of the built-in applications isnt allowed, but a good chef knows the problem and use some tricks)
SPL 3.5 is a two way road, you can go back. My suggestion was... YOU choose the best ROM, and start testing (and stop talking ) flash some ROM and you will have more experience (and less questions )
Let me also add Lakeman's message reply:
I like michys roms and usually play with his latest creations. michy4.1 is reportably the most stable. there is a thread by sergiopi with links to all the roms at the top of the winmobile6 forum and i would recommend reading the beginers guide I wrote as well
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Also, thanks for your consistent replies sergiopi. One comment: I don't own a X7500 yet so unfortunately I can' t begin experimenting. In fact, I want to avoid experimenting by writing and talking on this forum! Isn't that the smart thing to do anyway, rather than brick a device?
Here is a recent follow-up from Brau0303. I asked him to clarify what the SPL is:
Yes much of this can be overwhelming, SPL is not actually directly part of the device OS (think of it more as a bios type component) and you have to have the special versions of the SPL to unlock the ability to flash custom roms) I think the upgrade to 6.1 is worth it. many of the basic roms will work on a spl 1.20 olinex device, but the more feature rich roms that are based on the x7510 version require the 3.xx spl because it re-partitions the flash rom space. hope this helps.
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You can also read more about SPL here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296432
and of course the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
Hi Brau0303, I've taken the liberty to post your reply on the public thread. I hope you don't mind. In the process I came up with a new question: is there any value in retaining the factory rom partition or is it a no-brainer to reclaim the space with a 3.X partition? In other words, is it possible to have WM6.1 with the factory partition in place, e.g. in case one may want to reset the device to a factory setting for resale purposes?
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Response from Brau0303:
Well if you go the way of spl 3.x you can only flash roms intended for 3.x, cmonex created a utility that allows you to go back to the spl 1.2x and standard factory settings/partition. I can say that it does work because i used it when I sold my Athena.
Cheers, BR
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have that much clear now. Thanks BR. I guess the main issue for me now is wading through all the lingo to decipher what cooks refer to when they label their ROMS (which ones go with which device/rom series). One question that is still bugging me - what is the relationship between AP4 and Michy 4/5/6? Sergiopi suggested that I flash both, but doesn't one overwrite the other? They are both ROMS correct? (As you write below, I only need one rom.)
Originally Posted by bamse1
Again, thanks for your reply. I noticed in your signature that it appears like you're running a cooked SPL with a stock ROM. I didn't realize it was possible to change the SPL alone and run a stock rom, if I am assuming correctly. What is the advantage of that may I ask?
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Originally Posted by Brau0303
Cheers, Peter
Well as I had said the SPL is not tied directly to the rom, the special spl allows you to flash cooked roms, you can not flash them with a stock spl (only allows flashing of released factory roms) here are the main components
SPL - loading the special spl version allows you to flash cooked roms (you can install this and still run stock roms)
Radio - you can flash a radio version without having to flash any other stuff (some roms require certian radio versions)
ROM - contains the WM OS and all the others required drivers and programs and such
Cheers, BR
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Checking SPL
Hi mate
I thought I would answer your pm here
You need to have the phone in your hands to do this , but from the beginners guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
"Check Bootloader Screen
Throughout this forum you will be referred to your SPL.
This is the Secondary Program Language and on your unadulterated ppc it will be 1.1
Olipro's original unlocker upgraded this to 1.1x but the unlocker above will change it to SPL 1.2
You can see if this has already been done by putting your phone into the Bootloader screen.
This is done by holding the camera button completely in and then pressing the reset button.
You will now see a red/green/blue and white striped screen telling you the device id and SPL version.
If you see SPL 1.2 , you are good to go to load any SPL 1.2 Rom"
further to this you may also see SPL3.5.
If you have this you can only flash SPL 3.5 roms
The bootloader screen is also where you can see what radio is installed
AP4 stands for Athena Project rom no 4
there is supposed to be AP5 in the works.
regards Michael
Hi Lakeman,
Thank you. Your post helps clear things up even more. I think I understand the progression from SPL 1.2 to 3.5 as well as the Radio upgrade. But Im still confussed when it comes to the what I think is the ROM side: AP4/5, Michy, and IRUS/vanilla... and left with 1-2 questions:
-Several have seemed suggested Michy 4/5/6 on top of or together with AP4/5 (see earlier posts). Sergiopi also mentioned a Sogarth or Irus Vanilla-Lite release. I'm just not clear about how these fit together, or if they should fit together. For instance, doesn't one rom overwrite the previous?
- Also, are AP4/5 and Michy 4/5/6 all SPL 3.5 versions? Does it matter?
I guess my main issue now is wading through all the ROM lingo and labels and how these (apparently) are used together.
Hello, downloaded a WinMo 28244 build for my HD2 and imported in OsKitchen along with a v3.14 ROM WWE. So will my cooked ROM work on HSPL or do I have to select some other base ROM to work on HSPL?? I dont want to cook a ROM which needs SPL 3.03 to work since I have HSPL and I enjoy it..
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Hello, downloaded a WinMo 28244 build for my HD2 and imported in OsKitchen along with a v3.14 ROM WWE. So will my cooked ROM work on HSPL or do I have to select some other base ROM to work on HSPL?? I dont want to cook a ROM which needs SPL 3.03 to work since I have HSPL and I enjoy it..
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way not SPL 3.03? nothing wrong with that.
Just use SSPL_RUU.exe for installing it and all is fine.
SPL 3.03 is working fine so do also Radio 2.15.50.14.
Edit way opening two threads with the same question? and adding the same question in a third thread? I mean ons will be enough no?
and just a question about the WM build. Way you choose the 28244 build instead of 29007? just a question.
@ OP,
This is now your main thread. The duplicates have been closed. Good luck with getting help with your question.
WB
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way not SPL 3.03? nothing wrong with that.
Just use SSPL_RUU.exe for installing it and all is fine.
SPL 3.03 is working fine so do also Radio 2.15.50.14.
Edit way opening two threads with the same question? and adding the same question in a third thread? I mean ons will be enough no?
and just a question about the WM build. Way you choose the 28244 build instead of 29007? just a question.
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Didn't know exactly where to create this thread.. Whether in Q&A or in Chefs' section. Moving on, read many posts stating that 28244 build has better battery life. Please feel free to suggest me any other build which has advantages over it may those be performance wise or visually. Also, I prefer HSPL as it gives more control on flashing 'Splash Screens' or 'Radio' separately. So again, will I be able to use 3.14 with HSPL without the SPL 3.03 without any performance issues?? Or should I choose another base ROM to start with?
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@ OP,
This is now your main thread. The duplicates have been closed. Good luck with getting help with your question.
WB
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Thank you
Build 2905 and 2907 are very stable and fast. (I don't have the impression that thy consume a lot.)
But personally if you would use the latest stock ROM 3.14 I would more suggest you SSPL than HSPL.
Honesty the included radio is good, spl 3.03 (beside the fact it isn't compatible with HSPL) is okay, and about the Splash screen, pff well what to say, peoples used there phone if it's turn on, the splash screen is a fraction of a moment that you will see it, and peoples don't wait to have a nice splash screen but preferring a nice, stable and fast ROM.
Thanks Kurt for your input. I will have to consider these points as well