I don't know how to go about this, but since seth isnt goin to be making anymore roms the the Neon, I was wondering if someone could starting towards his direction. I would be the first to do this, but i haven't a clue where start. Sorry if this sounds dumb.
well first big thanx for you on taking on this task and its great appreciated im sure by the NEON community.im sure u already asked seth on how to start cooking and search this forum for some other NEON developers.ill help as much as i can.thanx
-wayne
Im learning to cook foor the Neon aswell Seth has given me soem tips and the kitchen he uses, although i don't know how we can better Seths current Rom its great
Could you show me the foundation of it? build on up?
Neon and Niki are very simulare ... i doesnt understand, why nobody try to found out, the different settings off both device, to create a OEM Pack?
An OEM pack would be great
I'm in the same boat myself. I've been reading the forums here for a while now and have a ****load of tools, but I don't know if I have the right tools to cook a ROM for the neon200.
I'm using Seth's Diamond v4 and it works very well, but I would like to cook a ROM that is stripped to the bone and build it back up over time.
If you have any hints or tips on how to cook for the neon please post them, and I'll try to post anything useful (or unsuccessful, until I brick my phone, lol)
Cheers.
starting from scratch?
I believe we should start by changing toms rom and black mary rom to be configured for the neon. it would be great to be able to have everyone benefit from they're work.
Excuse me...could you please direct me to the kitchen?
If someone has a kitchen, I'll start cooking today. I've cooked afew of my own roms, for private use, on my Kaiser. I've had my NEON 300 for about a month, and love it. If Seth has a kitchen do we know which? If someone's already obtained it from him, can you post it? I'll work on an OEM pack...this isn't really all that different from most of them floating around, it's not like most of the HTC apps haven't already been pooped out in oem fashion, ready to cook. This is how communities grow, with people willing to learn for the support and benefit of everyone.
I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
I took a vendor image and added some packages cooked it and flashed it and my phone still worked after it, lol. Not all the apps I added worked, but the process did.
I'm going to play with it some more until I get it right (my GFs new favorite saying is, "Are you playing with that f**king phone again!!!). I'd like to build an ultralite ROM with decent drivers that can be built on.
Netrunner posted in this thread that creating an OEM pack for the Neon shouldn't be too hard, but it seems that there aren't alot of knowledgeable people out there with Neons. The differences might be small but to a n00b (like me, lol) they're pretty major. I've read about as much as I can, (I saved my weekend FF session and it has 259 tabs - and on a side note it peaked @ 1,002,384K and while I know that IE would have drowned in it's own blood, 4MB per tab still seems excessive ...) Any Neon specific help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Next I'm gonna try and take a stock WM6 ROM and port it to 6.1, we'll see what happens from there ...
Hey hey, well done. sounds good my girlfriend says the same thing haha
solution for that problem
I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
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I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
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where are you from? If your in the US, most cases you have a neon. If it doesnt have it listed (on back of device), you probably have a niki. Check settings>device information>identity
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I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
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I've got the Niki Kitchen, where do I change the settings so I can make the rom for a Neon200 instead of for the Niki?
I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
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I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
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Im with you, would love to learn But, i think you need an OEM pack, change the radio...from what i know. I'm sure there is a lot more. NetrunnerAT knows how. Not giving up names lol
Manilla Rom
If any one has the kitchen, and is willing to throw out a few pointers, I would be more than happy to get started on a Manilla ROM. Does anyone have any idea where to get one? I PM'd Seth, but have not gotten a reply yet. Any ideas?
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Back when I owned an XDA II, someone created an online ROM cooker that you could customise on the website... choose which programs and tweaks you wanted to install and then it cooked it for you and provided it for download.
Will something like this ever be available for the Hermes or is this idea dead now that MS won't allow ROMS for download? I have been reading about the ROM Koch and love the progress but am wondering if it will ever be streamlined to a simple click & cook type of interface...
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Back when I owned an XDA II, someone created an online ROM cooker that you could customise on the website... choose which programs and tweaks you wanted to install and then it cooked it for you and provided it for download.
Will something like this ever be available for the Hermes or is this idea dead now that MS won't allow ROMS for download? I have been reading about the ROM Koch and love the progress but am wondering if it will ever be streamlined to a simple click & cook type of interface...
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can you provide a link as to this site??
M$ will come down on top of us, like a ton of bricks i rekon....but id LOVE to see this
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walshieau, this was about 4 years ago when the XDA II was at its most popular. Maybe someone else here who owned an XDA II may recall it or know how it worked.
I just did a quick Google hoping something would jog my memory and I found a thread on xda-developers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=226272
The site is shutdown now though.
a quick google comes back with http://www.romkitchen.de/ as one of the first results
well since Olipro and dutty have managed to port all of the tools to .NET im happy to host the website if they want their code ported to online applications....
There was another provided by a guy named Yorch I recall as well that was a good online one... I think it died off though
Yorch that was it!
That site was fantastic! If we could do the same for the Hermes, that'd be... even more...... fantastic!
Let's get some rumors and discussion going here. I definitely want to flash my phone with WM6.
Anyone heard anything about a potential release/leak?
I know I heard somewhere that they are/were using the StrTrk as a test device for the Smartphone (standard?) edition of WM6, but haven't heard much else of it....
No news here but I've heard the same as you, the StrTrk was used as a test phone for WM6. I've emailed HTC Support but who knows if they'll ever reply.
I think with the new rumor of the StarTrk replacement, HTC S420/Erato, there isn't going to be a WM6 unless you get it from a custom build or from another platform/vendor. Past experiences show that vendors would rather us buy a whole new phone. But....This gives you something to look forward to. Just in a new version. IMHO - A much better upgrade in the clamshell design.
Thread started here on the new phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297847
Enjoy -
And from most accounts - HTC isn't going to update their pre-existing hardware to WM6. There have been a few rumors stating they will but from most of the official responces from HTC it's not looking likely. Our best bet is to hope somebody releases a leaked test rom and then the cooking can start
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And from most accounts - HTC isn't going to update their pre-existing hardware to WM6. There have been a few rumors stating they will but from most of the official responces from HTC it's not looking likely. Our best bet is to hope somebody releases a leaked test rom and then the cooking can start
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Heh, that's exactly what I've been hoping for....just hopefully someone gets their hands on one...
seems we can port wm6 to startrek. we have several nk.exe files of wm6 for omap 850, other drivers are compatible from wm5. you only need patched spl with disabled nbh check, as hermes does. anyhow having no startrek i won't do it, i just give you a hint
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seems we can port wm6 to startrek. we have several nk.exe files of wm6 for omap 850, other drivers are compatible from wm5. you only need patched spl with disabled nbh check, as hermes does. anyhow having no startrek i won't do it, i just give you a hint
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why not try the build of it... hint hint- i will try it on mine.
i'd be happy to try it out and give feedback to improve it!
I will be more than willing to try it on my cingular 3125.
Wm6
scott_donald said:
why not try the build of it... hint hint- i will try it on mine.
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I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
I would be glad to give it a test as well.
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I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
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you what???? sorry bit clueless here...
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I can build image for you.. but you need to ask DES to patch your SPL to allow unsigned code
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I wonder if Des, Olipro or Pof have a StrTrk - they'd be the most likely to be able to do such a thing I think
Is there even any smartphones that have WM6 available or running yet?
Yup, there's a WM6 ROM floating about for the Dash / S620 so I hear...
Hm...so if we can get our hands on one of their ROMs, could it theoretically be adapted to the StrTrk?
Maybe but I've yet to see any cooked roms for the StrTrk (I'm hoping it's close enough to the TyTN that it's tools can be modified).
I guess I see two real problems with that. First, as I said, no real kitchen to cook in (unless I'm missing something which is quite possible)
and two, it is MUCH easier to cook a rom intended for your device then to port it from one device to another, while I suspect it would be do-able (assuming that we get the proper driver support - not nesc the same as WM5) it won't be easy to port from one device to another - remember there's some specialized hardware on the StrTrk - out screen etc (while WM6 is supposed to support external displays, I think it will require a driver).
By all means, please if you have the brains and ability, cook away, I look forward to your rom I certainly am no where near the smartest guy in these forums and am sure there are a number of people here more the capable of doing so. If somebody sent Pof, Des, Dutty and Olipro and some others a StrTrk we'd see some good tools in here in no time
That said, I'm still hoping a mystery rapidshare link appears
I hear ya...unfortunately, I don't know anymore than you do
There will be a high probability that WM 6.0 for HTC StrTrk is let out, in fact same the same WM 5.0 with AKU 3.0 and the changed interface.
If has appeared WM 5.0 AKU 3.0 from Cingular that is hope!
Hi to all! I've moto mpx200. Where i can find WM6 for it?
PLEASE STICKY THIS!
The purpose of this thread is to consolidate all software, roms, and information on the HTC Touch Dual Neon400.
The Neon400 was released as the CDMA version of the Touch Dual in Canada to Bell and Telus exclusively thus far. At this point in time this exact model is ONLY available in canada to Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility clients.
The Neon400 sports some MAJOR changes to previous Neons and the Niki. Inside it actually has more in common with the HTC Touch Diamond than a traditional Touch Dual (Nike). The specs are as follows:
Qualcomm MSM7501A 528mhz Processor (Same as Diamond)
ROM-capacity: 256 MiB (Same as traditional Nikes)
RAM-capacity: 160 MiB (Higher than Nike, Lower than Diamond)
Full GPS Capability
Same GPU / Graphics capability as Diamond (Altho no 3d interface software provided)
Rumored to have Wifi (neither provider has the drivers/wifi enabled if that is the case).
Both Telus and Bell ship the phone with WM 6.1 Pro as an OS.
Because of the limited availablity of the Neon400, and the vastly different specs, and the fact that it has only been available since Sept. 2008. There is next to none (I have yet to find any) software or rom flashes/upgrades available.
This thread serves as a place for the few of us who have Neon400's to test out new ideas, share modding experiences, give, and receive advice.
Few of my questions right off the top:
Will the previously established methods for unlocking Nike's work for this model? (anyone yet tested?)
Are there any TESTED and COMPATIBLE Roms that work on the Neon400 thus far?
Is anyone currently working on the above projects?
Thank you and Welcome Neon400 users! Lets take advantage of the extra horse power in our HTC Nike's and get things rolling!
instead of neon400, how about all neons? i have the neon300, all pretty much the same (of what you can install on it)
I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
BeatleMatt said:
I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
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They already have roms for the Neon
I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
i two just bought a Telus Neon400 and i found that yes it is vary buggy like when i finish a call it like freezes for a bit then its fine
it lags alot eats up mad batterie life i just want to be able to unlock it and install anew rom something that has far less bugs in it ,we need more sopport
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I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Always use the top search option to find answers : ) Very easy. This is for the Neon
Unfortunately this method doesn't work for the Neon 400. I should know, I tried. The screen turns black and you need the reset the phone.
So,no, the top search option doesn't work here.
yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
hammer22 said:
yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
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You would think it would have to be somebody who has access to the phone. Since nobody else but Canadians can use it, I don't think there's much hope that any of the regular SPL writers would be able to do it.
I hope I'm wrong though. I've tried to PM Olipro asking for help, but to no avail.
We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
I was able to extract the .raw files from my Telus "Neon", using the Kaiser tutorials, if this helps? I didn't know what to do beyond that...
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We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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I'm unsure if one exists. At least, I can't find one on any of the sites (bell.ca, telus.com, pdcphones.com, htc.come etc). I also heard from the Telus salesman that the phone is being discontinued. That's bad for updates. I don't know about Bell.
need HARDspl
if there is one its for the jap version of the neon400 dont know what good that would do
and as for updates htc site would have them if telus would not right it only makes sence
is there a way to extract the rom off my phone ?
neon 400's are also available in Gsm quad band not just cdma.
Ive spent weeks researching my neon400, and the options I have with it, and I have discovered that there are no options! Or so it may seem.
I've tried to hardspl it a few times now, no luck, the sspl-nike does not work with it.
I want to know if anyone out there with a neon400 specifically has managed to hardspl thier device, and furthermore if they have managed to get any custom rom to work.
The neon400 actually has more in common with the diamond than any other niki or neon, it has a different processor chipset than any other touch dual variant, its CDMA not GSM and does not use a sim card. The chipset it uses is identicle to that of the HTC Diamond.
I think we're out of luck - the Neon400 is only sold in Canada, so people like you and me are SOL in terms of getting a new ROM.
It is similar to the Diamond, but not exactly, so the Diamond stuff doesn't work with it.
If somebody could instruct me or find some sort of hardspl developer's guide...I'd love to give it a shot.
I would even extract any info from the phone to assist some other developer. Right now, the current ROM eats up ridiculous amounts of memory...we need custom stuff!
Lucas
Wow, this is rough, I have the Telus version, and I don't know how everyone else's phone behaves, but this thing's stock ROM is light years behind my previous Apache with custom ROM. It takes it close to 7 seconds to hang up a bloody call!! That's uncalled for
My girlfriend has the Telus version, she is who I'm trying to hack it for.
Her's is all right, and only that. It's def sluggish and needs a lot of the stupid crap removed.
I think this version also has GPS, which needs to be unlocked I believe.
the gps is already unlocked I have a Telus Neon 400 and it works great, mine also is solid in terms of speed and does not take 7 seconds to hang up a call. major issue for me is well i want WM6.5 so lets get cracking people what do we need to do to get a rom cooking.
-For Neon Hardspl-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Someone should probably sticky the thread and call it "NEON HARDSPL"
ajb303 said:
-For Neon Hardspl-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Someone should probably sticky the thread and call it "NEON HARDSPL"
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Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
ryar said:
Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
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Did you follow the steps correctly? Reason why I ask is because I've talked to owners of a telus neon and I believe they used this process. This is the only neon hardspl I know of
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Did you follow the steps correctly? Reason why I ask is because I've talked to owners of a telus neon and I believe they used this process. This is the only neon hardspl I know of
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I would welcome them explaining how they did it. Please have them post if you can.
yes id like to know to i am no newbee to flashing roms
ryar said:
Doesn't work with Telus NEON400...
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doesnt work with Bell neon400 as well.
bump......
So I have had my HD2 a few months now and I've been happy with the stock look and feel.
Now I would like to start trying a few of the xda add ons and roms.....
However I do not wish to blindly jump...I figured I would ask the pros here.
So I would like to move up to the newer windows 6.5.x ( not sure what version were at), with the task bar at the bottom.
So I am on the Rogers Network ( Ontario Canada), with an Unlocked HD2.
I bought it on line but was unaware at the time I got wrong unit for here, as I only have edge...no 3g ( Unit from Hong Kong via Vancouver and ACEGSM).
No worries though, as I do not need 3G as I do so little on line on phone...Weather, a little FB, Yahoo mail, MSN Mail....so Edge works awesome for me.
So if I am to flash say mainly a stock look and feel to start, where should I start?
As said, phone came from Hong Kong
OS Version 5.2.21869
Manila Ver. 2.5.19211619.0
ROM Ver 1.66.707.1 WWE
Radio Ver. 2.07.51.22_2
What would my best picks be for my unit?
Is there an Oficial HTC Flash that brings me to the updated windows 6.5.x?
Is there someone who could advise me on what way is dumb guy proof ?
I can flash, as I flashed my Typhoon enough times......but a Typhoon and an HD2 are 2 different beasts.
Many Thanks in advance for any who step into the Yoda roll here!!!!
Anything?
A hint?
Greywolf_Ghost said:
Anything?
A hint?
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hey man, instead of flashing a new rom why not try cht first. its an easy .cab install and truely is awesome. after you installed that, you can then go on to mod your phone with new clocks, skins....well just about anything really. cht offers a quality starting block to build upon. just a thought bud........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792303
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hey man, instead of flashing a new rom why not try cht first. its an easy .cab install and truely is awesome. after you installed that, you can then go on to mod your phone with new clocks, skins....well just about anything really. cht offers a quality starting block to build upon. just a thought bud........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792303
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Many Thanks !! I will try this out first.
So I still nned to find out, is there an HTC rom upgrade to move me up to Windows 6.5.3 ??? (or what ever the latest version is )
Or is that only by using a rom from XDA?
The reason I ask is it would be nice for me to have the buttons along the bottom of the screen, rather then the 2 screen buttons and the start at the top.....my thumb is rather stubby, so getting to start is a 2 hand job
There arent any official 6.5.x roms with the bottom start button, you'd have to HSPL your device and use a cooked rom for XDA.
Check the stickies in the rom development section for all the info you need on this.
Im not gonna make an assumption as to which model of HD2 you have, if it is the american model (green and red hardkeys / big fat double chin) then you need to be aware of the radio your flashing....
Seeing as you got it from HK then its probably not that one, better safe than sorry though....
As long as you read up on the subject first and make sure your reading the correct information for your device you cant really go wrong.
95% of the "bricked" phone horror stories you see on here are down to people not doing their homework first....
You mention that you'd prefer a close to stock feel for a custom rom so probably either an "artemis" or one of dutty's roms would be your best choice....
To be honest though if your happy with the performance your getting from your stock rom then it might not be worth the switch unless you really really want the 6.5.x look.....
+1 on the CHT suggestion too.
A must have (in my humble opinion) for any HD2....
Hope that helps.......
Many many many Thanks !!! Both donwhann and conantroutman !!!!!!
I will try CHT first before a flash, then when I have read, reread, understand the steps required I will try the roms named.
I have to say XDA is an awesome place to learn....it was a godsend giving my SMT 5600 (Typhoon) new life. As my friend who now uses my old phone will tell you.
Now I will be able to keep my HD2 feeling fresh and fun, thanks to XDA and it's awesome people
Thank you greatly for the advise !!!