A newbie needs Help upgrading - G4

I have read and read and I am even more confused. Your advices are appreciated.
Just got me an I-mate K-JAM with WM5.
It is both CID/SIM unlocked as reported by WST 4.2.2
IPL 2.16.0001 G4
SPL 2.16.0001 G4
Radio 2.07.10
I am using it on T-mobile.
I would like to upgrade it to WM6 or WM6.1 in as easy steps as possible.
Since it is G4 and CID unlocked, do I still need to do the SoftSPL or HardSPL on it as some guides say?
Can I just load a new ROM ? Please tell me which one(s) I should look at ? And will they keep my IPL/SPL at 2.16 ?
If I get responses to this thread great and thanks.

if it is unlocked you should be able to load it no prob hard spl will cid unlock (what you say your phone already is so you shouldn't need it).... but you will no for sure when you try and flash.... you won't be able to. as for ipl spl not sure depends on the rom you'll have to check with the developer.

IPL 2.16.0001 G4
SPL 2.16.0001 G4
A G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,you are wrong here,WST_4.2.2 will never read and confirm a G4 phone as CID unlocked.Run the WST_4.2.2 and read carefully,it'll definitely confirm it CID locked.
YES ! as G4 cannot be CID unlocked at all,however,it can only be upgraded through either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',there's no other way.

zabardast_1 said:
IPL 2.16.0001 G4
SPL 2.16.0001 G4
A G4 device cannot be CID unlocked,you are wrong here,WST_4.2.2 will never read and confirm a G4 phone as CID unlocked.Run the WST_4.2.2 and read carefully,it'll definitely confirm it CID locked.
YES ! as G4 cannot be CID unlocked at all,however,it can only be upgraded through either 'SoftSPL' or 'HardSPL',there's no other way.
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Well this is what WST is giving me when I click on CID Actions:
Reading CID block...
Calculating CID block sum...
CID checksum: F7A6B943
Decrypted stored sum: D15C1E02238D38E4
Decrypted calcd sum: D15C1E02238D38E4
Key index : 21 - Block index: 171
CIDkey: 5kŠ” *ñ[
CID IMEI: DBB52205AB7818F
CID: 11111111 (SuperCID)
Phone is already CID unlocked!
So !!!!
Is it locked or unlocked? Am I doing anything wrong? Is there another way ( other than flashing ) to see if it is locked or unlocked ?

Dont pay WST any attention, your phone IS NOT CID unlocked, G4 devices CAN NOT be CID unlocked, they can only be made to think that they are.
What you need to do is apply HardSPL to your phone, which will make your IPL and SPL read 2.26.0001 and 2.26.olip or something similiar(read the thread on HardSPL for the specifics), you can then upgrade to any G4 safe Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1 ROM that is availible here. I recommend using the latest TNT version(20273), as it is currently the most stable version available.
I have made a guide that is available in the G4 section that includes some screenshots and all of the neccesary programs to get you up and running. You just need to download it, and the ROM of your choice and off you go!
I hope that helps yah out some!

Can you post 'Device Info' report generated by WST_4.2.2 here.

Related

IPL/SPL upgrade?

I am currently running the Cingular 2.25.0001 ipl/spl .. is there a better one out there that would be safe to upgrade to on my 8125 G4?
lol.. No one has any suggestions?! lol .. I see a couple people with 2.26 and 3.08 .. just wondering how those would work with my G4
You've got a WHOLE LOT of reading to do if you're thinking about changing your IPL/SPL on a G4 Wizard.
Good Luck!!
that's what I figured.. I wasnt sure if it was safe to do... or easier to do with my CID unlocked..
This thread would be the perfect place to start.
HA! Thanks newbie.. I guess I will be leaving my IPL/SPL alone .. .. Maybe I will wait for cingular to make an update.. lol.
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
apparently doesnt let you make calls. every time i try to dial a number, it says your international call cannot be completed as dialed... its useless, i just did it on my g3.
Madcap180 said:
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
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IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
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Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
Zzan said:
IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
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I have a G4 CID locked phone and IPL/SPL thats older than 2.26 and I see no reason to update them still, considering that I can upgrade everything else (OS, radio, ext rom, splash) without touching IPL/SPL. Of course, I am a little more cautious having bricked (yes, real "replacement required" type brick) my phone once.
120.fr said:
Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
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It's been a long time since you did this. Is it still working for you?
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628 With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL & reflash to your favorite ROM
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mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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@mestrini I am guessing you did not try this route.
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
Mr.Viet said:
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
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Only if your G4 Wizard is CID unlocked, but i guess it's not...
CyberianIce said:
You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
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why? even with NoID updater it's not possible to update a locked G4?

please help the noobie!!!

Through research of different posts I have determined that I have a CID unlocked G4 model. I have a Qtek 9100 with MW 5:
Ipl 2.17.0001
Spl 2.17.0001
Gsm 02.07.10
Os 2.17.7.2
I was hoping to find an easy way to upgrade to WM6 and install the new touch applications. Does any one have any suggestions on which WM6 rom to install. Everything on my wizard is original programming except I have added PHM registry editor.
Your help is much apprectiated
There is no easy way... Are you sure your G4 is CID Unlocked? ALL G4 are locked in factory and the only way to unlock them is via imei-check website. You can use ShellTool to flash any WM6 here in the forum (I recommend NBD 7.4 for the touchflo apps).
As soon as you keep a copy of manufacturer RUU for your Wizard, you can flash any ROM you like using shelltool (Unlocking not required, but never using RUU to flash unless it is a manufacturer RUU)
dferreira said:
There is no easy way... Are you sure your G4 is CID Unlocked? ALL G4 are locked in factory and the only way to unlock them is via imei-check website. You can use ShellTool to flash any WM6 here in the forum (I recommend NBD 7.4 for the touchflo apps).
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Actually...All Wizard are locked in factory

How can i downgrade or change IPL/SPL of CID LOCKED G4 Prophet

Hello,
I have got G4 Qtek S200 (HTC Prophet) CIDLOCKED
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IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.20.0001
GSM: 02.47.21
OS: 2.20.7.34
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My question very clear:
*** I want to downgrade IPL/SPL ***
Is this possible ?
Thanks advance..
Hello!
Read the Wiki:
It is not possible to upgrade from a G3 model to a G4 model through software, as the DOC is a piece of Hardware.
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greetz Ben
Not from G3 to G4
Hello,
I guess you wrong understand me.
I dont want to upgrade my device from G3 model to G4.
Or i dont want to downgrade from G4 model to G3.
Already my device G4 and only i want to downgrade my IPL/SPL.
And i am asking how can i downgrade my IPL/SPL from 2.20.0001 to other minor IPL/SPL version.
Is this possible? What i must do?
Thanks...
It is not possible to upgrade from a G3 model to a G4 model through software, as the DOC is a piece of Hardware.
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Its a piece of hardware, whatever the Gen you can't up or downgrade it! use your head and think about it!
loverbadi said:
Hello,
I guess you wrong understand me.
I dont want to upgrade my device from G3 model to G4.
Or i dont want to downgrade from G4 model to G3.
Already my device G4 and only i want to downgrade my IPL/SPL.
And i am asking how can i downgrade my IPL/SPL from 2.20.0001 to other minor IPL/SPL version.
Is this possible? What i must do?
Thanks...
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I do think there's some people that don't understand english...
What loverbadi need to know concerns IPL/SPL versions, that are update by software.
What identifies G3 from G4 it's the last 4 digits (numbers) at the end of IPL/SPL version.
The first digits identifies the IPL/SPL version...
He needs to now how can he upgrade or downgrade this version, not to upgrade from a G3 device to G4...
Try to learn english language to read well what is write at this forum...
loverbadi said:
Hello,
I have got G4 Qtek S200 (HTC Prophet) CIDLOCKED
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IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.20.0001
GSM: 02.47.21
OS: 2.20.7.34
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My question very clear:
*** I want to downgrade IPL/SPL ***
Is this possible ?
Thanks advance..
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yes it is possible,why do you want to downgrade them? 2.20 is the latest official version?
Hi guys
I thought i had a bricked Imate Jammin .. in bootloader mode ..so i used Qtec RUU to flash my phone ... and it started working ofcourse with lots of searching and help from this forum ....
Previously my phone IPL and SPL were 2.13 but after writting ROM phone works fine but IPL is still 2.13 and SPL 2.20 so i am really confused .. Also is it possible now to flash it with Imate Jammin software of the same version .. be it 2.13 or 2.20
If yes please guide me to the right software ,,, I am truly a noob
thanks
Mike
Lastest IPL/SPL is 2.58 ... you can found on a TC-500.
NOW it is possible to downgrade SPL. Just flash HardSPL, after that you can DOWNGRADE SPL to any SPL you want!!!
nForce said:
NOW it is possible to downgrade SPL. Just flash HardSPL, after that you can DOWNGRADE SPL to any SPL you want!!!
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How? Can you explain a little bit more?
help
mun66 said:
Hi guys
I thought i had a bricked Imate Jammin .. in bootloader mode ..so i used Qtec RUU to flash my phone ... and it started working ofcourse with lots of searching and help from this forum ....
Previously my phone IPL and SPL were 2.13 but after writting ROM phone works fine but IPL is still 2.13 and SPL 2.20 so i am really confused .. Also is it possible now to flash it with Imate Jammin software of the same version .. be it 2.13 or 2.20
If yes please guide me to the right software ,,, I am truly a noob
thanks
Mike
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my prophet is still dead
can you help me
my spl 2.20
my ipl 2.20.0001
usb connects but all rom that i tryed dont boot
please help on reviving this little device
thanks
my prophet is still dead
can you help me
my spl 2.20
my ipl 2.20.0001
usb connects but all rom that i tryed dont boot
please help on reviving this little device
thanks
tiago.ad.correia(at)gmail.com
flash with original provider rom if cid is locked !!!
then make hardspl.
br stupsi

HardSPL how to

Hi everybody.
I'm about to upgrade my O2 XDA G4 from WM5 to WM6. I bought this neo on ebay and I don't know if it has already been HardSPled. Is there any chance to know - or - can the HardSPL procedure run again without creating problems?
Are the Radio, the IPL and SPL upgraded as well using one of the last WM6 rom or they should be upgraded manually? Do you recommend to upgrade also IPL/SPL/Radio?
Many thanks
The way to tell if it has been HardSPLed is to see the SPL number.
if it is 2.G3.4PDA or 2.G4.4PDA it has been hard SPLed if not, you will need to do it.
Generally, radio ROMs and IPL/SPL are best left alone (other than SPL for HardSPL).
Thanks for your quick quick reply. I have the following numbers:
IPL 2.15.001
SPL 2.15.001
GSM 02.30.21
OS 2.13.9.21 ITA
So I think I have a "2.G4.4PDA". BTW, while I can understand what 2.G4 means, I have no clue about 4PDA... Can you help?
Thanks again
D.
The numbers themselves (2.G4.4PDA) are meaningless... I think it is 2 (the SPL version) G4 (the device version) 4PDA (sounds like "for PDA").
You will need to HardSPL first, using G4 HardSPL as your device is a G4, then you can flash a ROM.
Done.
Thanks for your support. Now I have the following:
IPL 2.15.001
SPL 2.G4.4PDA
GSM 02.30.21
OS 2.13.9.21 ITA
Now you can flash a ROM.

help XO1HT

I HAVE XO1HT SPL 1.06 what tool i can use to downgrade spl to 1.04 i see marvn'x guide but all the download site not found if any body could give me the right tool to donwgrade spl to 1.04 ineed to unlock my phone im a newbi i can read but im not familiar with the tools if anyone could guide me and give me link to what software i should use...
thanks
br martians
I dont know exactly the problems with softbank devices but as far as I understand everything you need to know to SIM unlock it is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301952. Tell if is usefull.
HTC Tytn
SuperCID
SPL: 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10

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