So was reading about Microsoft making a win10 custom ROM for android devices. Any chance we'll see it for our g3's? I'd love to give it a try.
The only thing I read was that MS was making it possible for Windows 10 to run Android Apps. Nothing about actually running Windows 10 Mobile on an Android device. That's news to me.
As it is, I despise Windows 8. It's horrid on a PC. Why would I want to use my PC like a mobile device? Absolutely the WORST decision Microsoft has ever made in the history of Windows (well, other than Bob). In the same vein, I hate the Windows Mobile interface as well. Just do not like it, so even if this is to be possible, no way would I do it. LOL!
iBolski said:
The only thing I read was that MS was making it possible for Windows 10 to run Android Apps. Nothing about actually running Windows 10 Mobile on an Android device. That's news to me.
As it is, I despise Windows 8. It's horrid on a PC. Why would I want to use my PC like a mobile device? Absolutely the WORST decision Microsoft has ever made in the history of Windows (well, other than Bob). In the same vein, I hate the Windows Mobile interface as well. Just do not like it, so even if this is to be possible, no way would I do it. LOL!
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I read it on CNET. I only use desktop view on my win8 PC. I haven't tried windows phones. I know the old ones sucked ass back when it was just windows mobile. My brother in law is in school for game Dev and he's super excited for win10. It's supposed to be the greatest leap for windows ever, or some sh**. Runs 1/3 lighter than win8.
caddermeran said:
I read it on CNET. I only use desktop view on my win8 PC. I haven't tried windows phones. I know the old ones sucked ass back when it was just windows mobile. My brother in law is in school for game Dev and he's super excited for win10. It's supposed to be the greatest leap for windows ever, or some sh**. Runs 1/3 lighter than win8.
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Ah, okay.
I remember that's what some people said about Windows 8. LOL! It still sucks regardless. We have Windows 2K12 servers here at work and when I have to log into one of those to administer web sites, I absolutely loath the interface. Start button my butt! It STILL pops me to that stupid main screen of tiles. If I want to find something not there, then I have move my mouse over to the search button way in the upper right-hand corner of the screen (of course, after clicking on the "Start" button to leave the desktop) and find it that way. I've pinned so many things to the task bar, it's uncanny. Worse design decision EVER by Microsoft.
Hey MS! My PC is NOT a mobile device! Quit treating it as such!
iBolski said:
Start button my butt! It STILL pops me to that stupid main screen of tiles.
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Or you could just use something like Classic Shell which will restore the start menu you are looking for.
AngryManMLS said:
Or you could just use something like Classic Shell which will restore the start menu you are looking for.
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Yeah. I tried that and is does make it so much better, but it still just irks me how Microsoft decided to make a decision for me on how the ui should function and behave. Kind of like that fruit company. Lol. But 31st least, Microsoft didn't stop us from being able to use classic shell. Lol
iBolski said:
Yeah. I tried that and is does make it so much better, but it still just irks me how Microsoft decided to make a decision for me on how the ui should function and behave. Kind of like that fruit company. Lol. But 31st least, Microsoft didn't stop us from being able to use classic shell. Lol
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http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1...lock-classic-shell-in-windows-10-here-is-why/
To be fair I can understand doing this in the test builds since Microsoft is wanting feedback on their own start menu. But they have done it at this point what's to say they won't try to do this come prime time for Windows 10?
Its amazing to still see people struggling with windows 8.1/2012 r2. Functions just like any other windows to me. I press the start key, type the program I want, and it opens. Just like windows 7. Plus I can set it to boot to the desktop instead of the full screen start menu anyways. I bet most people don't even take the time organize tiles into named groups to make it look nice.
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
If there is one way that Microsoft could push me to a Windows 10 phone, it would have to be with Continuum. If I can have a phone with an x86 CPU, and be able to just connect it to a monitor and it becomes a fully blown PC! Then they have just made a customer out of me.
Windows 10 is great, but it's never going to run on the LG because no one is going to write the device specific drivers needed to make it work, which is also why ASOP/ CM ROMs never work very well .
People that hate Windows 8 don't have touch screens and Classic Shell installed.
From the beginning when asked about Windows 8, I've said, "only if you have a touch screen, otherwise you'll hate it".
I am looking forward to Windows 10.
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bb12489 said:
Its amazing to still see people struggling with windows 8.1/2012 r2. Functions just like any other windows to me. I press the start key, type the program I want, and it opens. Just like windows 7. Plus I can set it to boot to the desktop instead of the full screen start menu anyways. I bet most people don't even take the time organize tiles into named groups to make it look nice.
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
If there is one way that Microsoft could push me to a Windows 10 phone, it would have to be with Continuum. If I can have a phone with an x86 CPU, and be able to just connect it to a monitor and it becomes a fully blown PC! Then they have just made a customer out of me.
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I understand how it works, but it's still a major shock. I'm used to NOT having to switch from desktop mode to the tile mode and then have to search for my app. It's more clicks/operations:
1. Hit window key or start button to switch to start screen
2. Scan the tiles or move my mouse to the search button and click it.
3. Type in the app to find and run
Old way:
1. Hit the window key or start button.
2. Type in the search button and my app shows up and run it.
Again, this works great for mobile devices, but the desktop, it's hideous. And this is nothing new. Ubuntu did this years ago and it also was horrid and people despised it. To this day, on Ubuntu, I will not run that interface. I replace it with either the KDE desktop or something else.
The overall movement of the interface is just awkward on a PC. It makes no sense at all.
But, that's my opinion I guess, but it appears to be a lot of people's feelings as well.
iBolski said:
I understand how it works, but it's still a major shock. I'm used to NOT having to switch from desktop mode to the tile mode and then have to search for my app. It's more clicks/operations:
1. Hit window key or start button to switch to start screen
2. Scan the tiles or move my mouse to the search button and click it.
3. Type in the app to find and run
Old way:
1. Hit the window key or start button.
2. Type in the search button and my app shows up and run it.
Again, this works great for mobile devices, but the desktop, it's hideous. And this is nothing new. Ubuntu did this years ago and it also was horrid and people despised it. To this day, on Ubuntu, I will not run that interface. I replace it with either the KDE desktop or something else.
The overall movement of the interface is just awkward on a PC. It makes no sense at all.
But, that's my opinion I guess, but it appears to be a lot of people's feelings as well.
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You're already doing more work then you need to in Windows 8 to search for things. There's no need to ever move your mouse or click the search icon. Just press the windows key and start typing your program name. It starts searching automatically as soon as you start typing. Its the same function as in windows 7. The only difference is that the start menu is full screen with pin-able tiles for most used programs. In terms of how many clicks it takes to navigate to a program, its substantially less in 8 than in 7.
I've never really considered the windows 8 tile menu to be much of a "tablet mode" though. Just a fancy start menu. In windows 10 however, it goes a bit deeper to make the OS more touch friendly when it detects you are on a tablet. Its been great on my Surface Pro 3. Automatically puts it into tablet mode when I disconnect my type cover.
I am a fan of Windows 8.1 (not so much 8), but it did have issue that I think Microsoft has dealt with beautifully in Windows 10.
Ya'll are both making it harder than it needs to be, simply find the shortcut exe's you use frequently and put a shortcut on your desktop for them. Then, set the pc to auto boot to desktop. Then, the number of times you'll have to deal with the (admittedly hideous) metro start screen will be minimal
ohlin5 said:
Ya'll are both making it harder than it needs to be, simply find the shortcut exe's you use frequently and put a shortcut on your desktop for them. Then, set the pc to auto boot to desktop. Then, the number of times you'll have to deal with the (admittedly hideous) metro start screen will be minimal
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Or install Classic Shell which brings back the classic start menu and lets you bypass the Metro UI.
... or stick with Windows 7 like I am.
AngryManMLS said:
Or install Classic Shell which brings back the classic start menu and lets you bypass the Metro UI.
... or stick with Windows 7 like I am.
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And this is where I stay as well. Sorry, that Metro interface is horrid, period. Switching from desktop to the start screen is jarring to say the least. I just have NOT been able to get used to it. My PC does not have a touch screen, so it's even worse. My daughter has a notebook that has a touch screen, so it's fine there, but the UI is made for a touch screen and not every PC has one.
Yes, you can install Classic Shell, but again, why should I have to? Microsoft should have given us the option to have either one.
iBolski said:
And this is where I stay as well. Sorry, that Metro interface is horrid, period. Switching from desktop to the start screen is jarring to say the least. I just have NOT been able to get used to it. My PC does not have a touch screen, so it's even worse. My daughter has a notebook that has a touch screen, so it's fine there, but the UI is made for a touch screen and not every PC has one.
Yes, you can install Classic Shell, but again, why should I have to? Microsoft should have given us the option to have either one.
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To be fair I use Classic Shell on Windows 7 since I prefer the Windows XP Start Menu setup and I can customize things around such themeing and removing stuff that I don't use.
bb12489 said:
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
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I can see them putting out a flashable Windows ROM to certain devices, but no way it will be open source. They may well call it something like "Source Open Visual Basic" and make you use some proprietary IDE that only runs on Windows to manipulate themes or apps settings, but Microsoft will never open source any of their core products. Licensing and filesystems require separation of the two OS's. The only way they can get in on the Android action is to create some compatibility layer or emulator to run Android apps on their OS or build apps for distribution to Android users.
epidenimus said:
I can see them putting out a flashable Windows ROM to certain devices, but no way it will be open source. They may well call it something like "Source Open Visual Basic" and make you use some proprietary IDE that only runs on Windows to manipulate themes or apps settings, but Microsoft will never open source any of their core products. Licensing and filesystems require separation of the two OS's. The only way they can get in on the Android action is to create some compatibility layer or emulator to run Android apps on their OS or build apps for distribution to Android users.
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That's just giving instru...ff from Android or iPhone to a Windows phone.
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Hi! I have a LG Exalt 4 (LGVN220), It's a 4G Flip phone running off of android. Officially it doesn't allow you to install apps unless it's signed by LG, but if you rename the package to com.android.cts."packagename" it allows it to install. The problem is when you try to use the app it doesn't either detect or allow you to use the regular physical keyboard, does anyone know how you can change the code (maybe in the android manifest...) so that it uses the physical keypad and not touchscreen (since the flip phone doesntn't have a touchscreen, only a keypad)?
hi i was thinking about buying this phone for my dad and would like to install apps. did you have any success with this?
Not going to work.
notice not all apps have this prob. mostly apps built on cross platform engine like xamarin etc have this prob, but if app was developed in android studio it definitely works . unfortunately, your only way around this is to rewrite the app in android specific ide... good luck